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Warham

11-06-2005, 12:44 PM

Let's get real. The political battle between conservatives and liberals is no longer an issue worth discussing. Except for rhetoric, there is little substantive difference between them. The hype, scare tactics, and fear mongering used by both sides is merely for the purpose of raising money and electing people to positions of power. However, neither side has any real plans to change public policy or the overall direction of the country.

How long have we voters heard Democrats and Republicans warn us of the imminent dangers of the other party while assuring us that they and they alone can be trusted to save the country? It's the same redundant message every two years, and has been for as long as I can remember.

However, the grim reality is, no matter whom we elect, no matter which party controls Congress or the White House, the direction of the country doesn't change. Fundamental liberties continue to be lost, the federal government continues to burgeon, and America continues to evolve into a socialist-Fascist society.

Furthermore, that people call themselves Christians also matters little. The Religious Right moves in lock-step with the socialist-Fascist direction of the country along with the godless left. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether a politician claims to be conservative or liberal, Christian or unbeliever (which, of course, hardly any politician claims to be). Nothing changes.

What Americans must come to understand is that there is really only one issue that counts today: will America be an independent, sovereign nation or will it become part of a global empire complete with global government and a global economy? Obviously, there are many sub-issues that will help decide that question, but ultimately this is the single most important issue facing this generation of Americans! And when one ponders that question, he or she can easily see that both Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives, Christians and unbelievers are culpable in leading or assisting America's entrance into internationalism. There seems to be but a handful of people, from either end of the political spectrum, that remotely understands this reality.

Of course, many people are blind as bats as to what is happening to our country. All they know is working, paying taxes, getting drunk on the weekends, and immersing themselves in sports or self pleasure. Others see what is happening and because they lack a proper education or background are intrigued by it. Still others know exactly what is happening and are doing everything they can to hasten the pace. Regardless, America continues on the fast track to globalism.

What people need to realize is that internationalism is incompatible with freedom. Once internationalists achieve their dream of global government, Americans will rapidly lose their liberties and independence. No one's life, liberty, or property will be secure. People will become servants to an all-powerful state. We will live our lives under ubiquitous state surveillance. There will be no appeals, no checks and balances, and no separation of powers.

The rise of globalism also means the end of Christianity as a major influence in America culture and society. Our Christian history and heritage will be expunged. Beyond that, true Christian people will find that they have no friends within this new global order. We will come to share the purges and persecutions that our brothers and sisters who lived under Stalin's Russia and Mao's China endured.

Do you find it interesting that those Christians who refuse to oppose the efforts of internationalists today are actually helping to forge the chains and build the scaffolds that will ultimately be used against both them and their children tomorrow? Whether they realize it or not, that is exactly what they are allowing to happen.

It is time that all freedom loving Americans discard their infatuation with political parties, labels, and titles. They must quickly cast off their propensity to put pragmatism over principle and stop allowing themselves to be blindly led by these pompous Pied Pipers of internationalism.

Liberal or conservative? Democrat or Republican? Christian or unbeliever? It no longer matters! We are fighting for the survival of our nation. Any man, regardless of race, religion, political label, or economic station who understands that this is a battle between globalism and independence is our friend, and any man who understands it not will ultimately do us more harm than good, his political and religious affiliation notwithstanding.

http://www.covenantnews.com/baldwin050603.htm

ODShowtime

11-06-2005, 12:49 PM

Liberals vs conservatives means nothing, especially when neither of the two parties stands for either one anymore.

Warham

11-06-2005, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by ODShowtime
Liberals vs conservatives means nothing, especially when neither of the two parties stands for either one anymore.

Essentially true.

Whether you vote for Hillary or McCain in '08, nothing will change. Scary.

FORD

11-06-2005, 12:59 PM

The neocon globalist Likudist shitbags must be purged from both parties, and the corporate media must be broken.

Warham

11-06-2005, 01:00 PM

Even though I've been supportive of Bush (which ended at about 10:00 am this morning), I have wondered why the media (and I've referred to them as liberal) haven't talked about certain things Bush has done over the last five years, some of which are damaging. I'd figure the media would be all over that...

FORD

11-06-2005, 01:13 PM

DLR'sCock

11-06-2005, 01:22 PM

yep....

Warham

11-06-2005, 01:31 PM

I don't know if I can get behind Dr. Dean.

He's running the DNC. Doesn't that mean he's really in bed with the lot of them (Kerry, Hillary and Teddy), even though he appears to be on another page?

DLR'sCock

11-06-2005, 01:40 PM

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Cathedral

11-06-2005, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by Warham
Even though I've been supportive of Bush (which ended at about 10:00 am this morning), I have wondered why the media (and I've referred to them as liberal) haven't talked about certain things Bush has done over the last five years, some of which are damaging. I'd figure the media would be all over that...

I feel your pain, brotha'....

There are far FAR to many things I wish to be provided an answer to and the way things get swept away in politics treats the people as though we're stupid. I never understood the, "Oh, you didn't actually see that, next topic please" way of running this country.

Spinning their way out of lie's and underhanded bullshit...man, i don't see how any of our leaders have gotten past so much without being stopped and ordered to explain themselves...it's pathetic, and like a little game that everyone plays based on their particular positions in either party.
Don't say shit if it's one of your own boys, or in some cases, ladies, involved in the shit.
Just make sure when the other side crosses the line you can be there to condemn them for the same shit.

Pardon me for saying this, but I expect that kind of shit from a far left Liberal minded, self centered FUCK...but i don't expect it from sane America and I don't expect or accept it from the Conservative Party, that's not what it SHOULD be about.
I don't expect that kind of extreme political bullshit to be in the forefront of what needs to be happening on a Federal level in this country.

Bush failed miserably and way to many people overlook to damn much that he has yet to answer for, and he never will, that is guarenteed.

Republicans make the strongest Presidents, they don't take shit from anyone. But those traits are a bit warped with W. his arrogance and unwillingness to take the advice of others has opened up serious credibility issues from within the Republican base.

In essence, The Republicans and Democrats are identical in their motives and have been for decades.
The only difference is the packaging, the front page issues, but they all lead to more government and less freedom. in the end, they work together to achieve similar goals.

Hey, how many people do you know that have told a lie?
How many of them do you believe wouldn't lie to you?

Liar's will lie at the drop of a hat for any reason, not because they have to. Once a liar, always a liar...it's like alcoholism, sure you can stop lying but you'll always be a liar.
Since that is what i believe, tell me how many politicians we have serving that I DON'T consider a liar?

LMMFAO, and these are the people running our country, no shit many nations hate us because they can't trust a thing we say in most cases.

Though history is full of whack jobs, i can honestly say that previous generations were quite a bit more mature than what we have playing government today. well, they were better at faking it anyway.

Cathedral

11-06-2005, 05:22 PM

ODShowtime

11-06-2005, 05:46 PM

that's a very good question

FORD

11-06-2005, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by Cathedral

Republicans make the strongest Presidents, they don't take shit from anyone.

You mean like FDR, Harry Truman, and JFK? ;)

In essence, The Republicans and Democrats are identical in their motives and have been for decades.
The only difference is the packaging, the front page issues, but they all lead to more government and less freedom. in the end, they work together to achieve similar goals.

As I said, that's the neocon Likudist globalist fascists who have infiltrated both parties. It would be great if we could vote ALL the incumbents out in one election, just to be sure we get them all. But that won't happen until we get rid of the electro-fraud machines.

Hey, how many people do you know that have told a lie?
How many of them do you believe wouldn't lie to you?

Liar's will lie at the drop of a hat for any reason, not because they have to. Once a liar, always a liar...it's like alcoholism, sure you can stop lying but you'll always be a liar.
Since that is what i believe, tell me how many politicians we have serving that I DON'T consider a liar?

True enough. I'm no fan of liars either, and I've known some of the best.

LMMFAO, and these are the people running our country, no shit many nations hate us because they can't trust a thing we say in most cases.

It goes considerably deeper than that of course, but it's certainly true that at one time, most civilized countries - even some that weren't our best friends - thought they could take a President of the United States at his word. It took a good Christian like Jimmy Carter to recover from Nixon. What will it take to recover from the BCE?

Though history is full of whack jobs, i can honestly say that previous generations were quite a bit more mature than what we have playing government today. well, they were better at faking it anyway.

Most of the previous generations had real problems to deal with. Their presidents didn't manufacture wars and create fake terror alerts to keep them distracted.

Warham

11-06-2005, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Cathedral
By the way, what was it that happened at 10:00 am that made it the moment of revelation?

I realized after reading some articles that Bush (and many other Republicans) has been fooling the Republican Christian base the last five years (and longer), and that most of those Christians follow him like the mice follow the pied piper, without questioning the true intentions of who they are following. Actions speak louder than words. I just can't believe I didn't wake up earlier.

No more!

The Scatologist

11-06-2005, 10:37 PM

Yup, Warham finally sees the light. It ain't about being Liberal or Conservative. In the end, all the people claiming to be Liberal, or Conservative, and then going along with whatever the Liberals or Conservatives do, are nothing but fucking sheep.

Independant thought is where it's at.

Unfortunately though, we seem to always have to pick the lesser of two evils when it comes to politics.

Warham

11-06-2005, 10:40 PM

I'm going to register as an Independent from now on. ;)

Hardrock69

11-07-2005, 01:56 AM

There have been numerous times in the past 100 years, where prominent Americans have stated publicly that the "Democratic" government of the United States is just a sham, and that the direction of events in this world is plotted by a chosen few.

Most fingers are pointed at super-wealthy industrialists, the old banking families of Europe, and others.

Organizations most commonly mentioned are the Trilateral Commission (created in 1973 by members of the Council On Foreign Relations as sort of a "public" front for the CFR), and the Bilderbergers, who meet once a year to discuss world events, and make plans for the future.

Warham is beginning to understand that the President is a figurehead, and of course, being in office a maximum of 8 years, cannot do too much to change the world.

The real power lies behind the government. In the shadows.

Most people do not realize this, and of course, there are those sheep who cannot bear the thought that the system of government they have grown up believing is real, is a facade.

And so they cling to their belief, denying that the U.S. Government could somehow not be truly running the country.

Having 2 main parties, and a smattering of smaller political parties gives us the illusion that we actually have a say in how our country is run.

To a small degree we do have a say.

But in the big picture, spanning oh say about 50-100 years into the future, we have no say at all in what is going to happen.

For those who refuse to believe this, who cry and scream that the above statements are the deranged ranting of "conspiracy theorists", I say this:

No one has ever gained wisdom by studying material that only reinforced their own predetermined ideas.

Man...there is something weird about Warham having that Chimpy icon lol!

:D

Cathedral

11-07-2005, 02:40 AM

BigBadBrian

11-07-2005, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Warham
I'm going to register as an Independent from now on. ;)

It doesn't matter, Warham.

I've long claimed to be an independent because that's what I am. Neither major political party fully represents my beliefs in any way, shape, or form.

I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries and Wesley Clark in the 2004 Democratic primaries.

If you have an opinion on just one issue around here, people will stick a label on you if they don't agree with you.

You know that by now.

:gulp:

FORD

11-07-2005, 10:13 AM

OK, Brian....

Warham has formally denounced the Chimp. Will you do the same?

Get off the Short Bus, cause it's going over a cliff ;)

BigBadBrian

11-07-2005, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by FORD
OK, Brian....

Warham has formally denounced the Chimp. Will you do the same?

Get off the Short Bus, cause it's going over a cliff ;)

You people need to wake the fuck up.

Can some of you people even remember what others have said without all the name-calling? :confused:

I've said here in this forum many times I don't approve of how the situation is evolving in Iraq and think Rumsfeld is the reason. He should be shitcanned immediately.

However.....

We've crossed the Rubicon as far as Iraq goes. There is nothing to do but try to get Iraq on its feet as a sovereign nation. Anything less will result in even more American bloodshed in the future and do nothing but dishonor those who have already died for that cause.

As for supporting the President....

I take individual issues and take my position based on that.
There are too many issues I agree with him on and too many I disagree with him on. I won't paint myself into a corner by saying I support or denounce the man. That's using too broad of a brush for me.

This forum is still very much a partisan thing that people can't take individual issues and argue solely on the merits of the single case at hand.

:gulp:

FORD

11-07-2005, 10:48 AM

Hey, I'm all for evaluation, based on individual issues. I just can't think of a single issue where Junior has been right.

Hardrock69

11-07-2005, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by FORD
OK, Brian....

Warham has formally denounced the Chimp. Will you do the same?

Get off the Short Bus, cause it's going over a cliff ;)

FORD

11-07-2005, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by Warham
I realized after reading some articles that Bush (and many other Republicans) has been fooling the Republican Christian base the last five years (and longer), and that most of those Christians follow him like the mice follow the pied piper, without questioning the true intentions of who they are following. Actions speak louder than words. I just can't believe I didn't wake up earlier.

No more!

The author, Baldwin, doesn't specifically mention this in his article, but I'm guessing that he may have been inspired by recent revelation of a memo from Tom Delay's buddy (and fellow indicted criminal) Jack Abramoff.

Jack-off is also a close friend of former "Christian" Coalition CEO Ralph Reed, which makes it all the more disturbing to hear what Jack's partner Michael Scanlon really thinks of his party's religious conservative base...

"The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees," Scanlon wrote in the memo, which was read into the public record at a hearing of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. "Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them."

So there ya go. Not only are these traitorous leeches using the religious conservatives to their own ends, but all the time they're laughing at them behind their back.

And while the Scanlon memo has been out there for at least a week, I noticed the whore media hasn't touched it at all. More proof of their "liberal" bias, right? ;)

The Scatologist

11-07-2005, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Warham
I'm going to register as an Independent from now on. ;)

Too bad that there's never a Independent candidate for Presidency that has a chance of winning though.:D :D

FORD

11-07-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by The Scatologist
Too bad that there's never a Independent candidate for Presidency that has a chance of winning though.:D :D

Not exactly true. Ross Perot was actually the front runner in the 1992 election for a while. If he hadn't dropped out of the race and then dropped back in, it's very possible that he could have won the race.

Of course, in the years since 1992, the neocon shitbag machine has increased its hold on both parties with the corporatist nature of the parties forcing elections into a half-billion dollar industry (Bush and Kerry each spent in excess of $200 million, if you can fucking believe that)

Obviously it's hard for an independent - even a multi-millionaire - to compete with that money.

Which is why getting corporatism out of politics is mandatory.

Hardrock69

11-07-2005, 02:56 PM

And unfortunately the only people with the cash to run and win are those who want the corporatism to continue.

So until we get a billionaire to run who won't give a fuck about sucking up to the Corporate Overlords, we are fucked.

FORD

11-07-2005, 03:19 PM

Gates/Allen 2008!

Hardrock69

11-07-2005, 04:20 PM

LMFAO!!!!

If Paul Allen were to be our VP, at least we would have a rock musician at the highest levels of government!!!

:D

diamondD

11-07-2005, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
You people need to wake the fuck up.

Can some of you people even remember what others have said without all the name-calling? :confused:

I've said here in this forum many times I don't approve of how the situation is evolving in Iraq and think Rumsfeld is the reason. He should be shitcanned immediately.

However.....

We've crossed the Rubicon as far as Iraq goes. There is nothing to do but try to get Iraq on its feet as a sovereign nation. Anything less will result in even more American bloodshed in the future and do nothing but dishonor those who have already died for that cause.

As for supporting the President....

I take individual issues and take my position based on that.
There are too many issues I agree with him on and too many I disagree with him on. I won't paint myself into a corner by saying I support or denounce the man. That's using too broad of a brush for me.

This forum is still very much a partisan thing that people can't take individual issues and argue solely on the merits of the single case at hand.

:gulp:

Good post BBB. I can't count how many times I have said I don't vote party lines and still get labeled. The only thing I am for sure is anti-liberal, which isn't anti-Democrat. Both parties have been highjacked by the far left and far right and all the middle can do is hold their nose and pick one every election.

Hardrock69

11-07-2005, 04:34 PM

True.

BigBadBrian

11-07-2005, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by diamondD
I can't count how many times I have said I don't vote party lines and still get labeled. The only thing I am for sure is anti-liberal, which isn't anti-Democrat. Both parties have been highjacked by the far left and far right and all the middle can do is hold their nose and pick one every election.

Yup.

:gulp:

FORD

11-07-2005, 05:07 PM

WHAT party has been hijacked by the far left? The Greens?

Certainly not the DLC-hijacked corporatist entity that used to be called the Democratic party.

diamondD

11-07-2005, 05:43 PM

FORD, the inability of the far left to rationally discuss any issue is long gone. It's nothing but conspiracy theories and insults. We've been telling you for years that the general public isn't interested and is tired of having social agendas pushed down our throat.

You can sit there and throw your hands up in the air like you don't know what I'm talking about, but that's why you've been sitting at home crying election night and having to resort to "trickery" and "sabotage" as the only explanations for the losses.

LoungeMachine

11-07-2005, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Warham
Even though I've been supportive of Bush (which ended at about 10:00 am this morning),

Someone fill me in...

What woke up Warham at 10 ay em to the fact his support of Bush is [finally] over ????

:D :cool: :D :cool:

dum, dum, dum, another one bites the dust, che, che

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Warham
Essentially true.

Whether you vote for Hillary or McCain in '08, nothing will change. Scary. Things will change with the overthrow of the republican and democratic parties after civil waaar. Like the complete overthrow of the communist party of the Soviets.

When Texas becomes an independent nation there will be a bloody war on their border with Mexico and the illegal alien thing will be over as far as the nation of Texas is cuntcerned. Many dead Mexicans.

Vermont will also be an independent nation state, but without the bloodshed of Texas and other parts of the continent.

The honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan will have an African Muslim theocracy nation in the middle of the former U.S.A., and after killing the sparce population of 'red' states whites it will become an immediate Muslim nation nuclear power with many former U.S. missle silos.

Texas will also be a nuclear nation.

California, Oregon and Washington will be forced to merge int2o a super state modeled after the old U.S.A..

From Arkansas through Kentucky, the Virginias and Tennessee will be a loose conferderation between thr3ee or f4our Eastern capitals. O1ne capital in the new nation(s) of the Midwest, o1ne in Atlanta f4or the south, o1ne in the region of New Jersey f4or the new sea board nations.

The economy of the continent will be a commonwealth between all of these new nations.

Washington, D.C. will be a ghost town. The national monument, that big penis witch symbol will be torn down and laying in ruins. No one will repair or rebuild it. There will be a code of silence in a great radius of the former capital. Like in Rome when the world's greatest empire's capital had t2o be moved east t2o Constantinople.

Canada will LOSE parts of it's border land in the west due to whites who fled there t2o escape the massacres of sparsely white populated 'red' states in the creation of new hispanic and Muslim states between California and Texas which will be white dominated.

Indian reservations will continue t2o be independent nations and their meager lands will expand t2o regain fertile farm land in the west. Something their casino monies could never buy. The tribes will buy some of this land with their casino wealth in purchases from the new nations.

An independent Cuban immigrant nation will be created in Florida with it's capital in Miami. The rest of Florida will be caught up in the new nation of the merged Carolinas which will be called Carolina (no more north and south).

There will be many cemeteries, but the living will not mourn the dead. They will be getting on with LIVING. And, they will be glad with what they have done and built.

This is not unbelievable.

This IS the future.

No federation will exist from coast t2o coast f4or protection and defense from any invasion, because no nations in the world would want t2o come here and fight f4or this mess called North America.

:spank:

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 08:06 PM

LoungeMachine

11-07-2005, 08:09 PM

Go0d t2o cee ya Fil.....

The Chickenhawks are coming home to roost....

They're going down faster than a drunken prom date....

LoungeMachine

11-07-2005, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by diamondD
FORD, the inability of the far left to rationally discuss any issue is long gone.

Not being a member of the "far left", I can't speak for them, however couldn't the SAME be said for the "far right" ????

Extreme is extreme regardless of which side of the spectrum.

We Moderate / Progressives can't get a rational discussion from the far right either.

:cool:

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Go0d t2o cee ya Fil.....

The Chickenhawks are coming home to roost....

They're going down faster than a drunken prom date....
Check tit out, dude.:)

:spank:

LoungeMachine

11-07-2005, 08:36 PM

gotta luv the "Cheney begins prison term" banner

Poor Chimp needs a drink........and a toot

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
gotta luv the "Cheney begins prison term" banner

Poor Chimp needs a drink........and a toot
Oh, you do not know how seeing those words in print warms my American heart.

They are like a VISUAL AID to us all f4or what we need t2o do and see comes t2o pass.

I hope Cheney lives t2o make this cover come true.

You know he has a bad heart.

And a gay daughter which might cause him t2o have a heart attack when he finds out she's dating Ellen Degeneres ex-girlfriend who she met in Cleveland while he was debating Edwards on national TV.

true dat.

:spank:

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 08:46 PM

Take cuntrol.

:spank:

CLEVELAND ROCKS
AND PIONEERED TERMS LIKE: Fag, Dyke, Faggot, Lezzie, Homo, Queer, Fairy, Fruit, Pansy, and Sissy

diamondD

11-07-2005, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Not being a member of the "far left", I can't speak for them, however couldn't the SAME be said for the "far right" ????

Extreme is extreme regardless of which side of the spectrum.

We Moderate / Progressives can't get a rational discussion from the far right either.

:cool:

That's why I posted:

Both parties have been highjacked by the far left and far right and all the middle can do is hold their nose and pick one every election.

;) :cool:

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by diamondD
That's why I posted:

Both parties have been highjacked by the far left and far right and all the middle can do is hold their nose and pick one every election.

;) :cool:
Not if they do what Thomas Jefferson, an American, wrote aboot something else the people can do in the Declaration of Independence.

Read it again.

Jefferson made furniture, Jefferson ran a plantation and educated his blacks, Jefferson designed and built a house, Jefferson grew orchards, vineyards gardens, Jefferson experimented with plants, Jefferson got married, Jefferson had children, Jefferson lost and buried children, Jefferson establish the policy of public education in America, Jefferson was the Justice of the Peace in his parish, Jefferson held every political office from county level t2o President of the United States, Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence.

What did you do t2oday...for FREEDOM?

:spank:

EFFECTING YOUR LIFE TODAY
EVEN IF YOU DON'T REALIZE IT OR KNOW HIS NAME

LoungeMachine

11-07-2005, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Take cuntrol.

:spank:

CLEVELAND ROCKS
AND PIONEERED TERMS LIKE: Fag, Dyke, Faggot, Lezzie, Homo, Queer, Fairy, Fruit, Pansy, and Sissy

It's a dog-eat-dog world, aint it?

:D

LoungeMachine

11-07-2005, 09:14 PM

The Scatologist

11-07-2005, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
[B]Not if they do what Thomas Jefferson, an American, wrote aboot something else the people can do in the Declaration of Independence.

Read it again.

Jefferson made furniture, Jefferson ran a plantation and educated his blacks, Jefferson designed and built a house, Jefferson grew orchards, vineyards gardens, Jefferson experimented with plants, Jefferson got married, Jefferson had children, Jefferson lost and buired children, Jefferson establish the policy of public education in America, Jefferson was the Justice of the Peace in his parish, Jefferson held every political office from county level t2o President of the United States, Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence.

What did you do t2oday...for FREEDOM?

:spank:

Jefferson also wrote a treasure map on the back of the Declaration of Independance!

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
It's a dog-eat-dog world, aint it?

:D
flappo wishes he lived in America.;)

:spank:

blueturk

11-07-2005, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Someone fill me in...

What woke up Warham at 10 ay em to the fact his support of Bush is [finally] over ????

:D :cool: :D :cool:

dum, dum, dum, another one bites the dust, che, che

Here is that moment, preserved for posterity. The lies and incompetence of the current administration became evident to Warham in a tremendous moment of revelation.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=752962#post752962

Phil theStalker

11-07-2005, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by The Scatologist
Jefferson also wrote a treasure map on the back of the Declaration of Independance!
You noticed dat, t2oo?!

:spank:

BACK OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

LoungeMachine

11-07-2005, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by blueturk
Here is that moment, preserved for posterity. The lies and incompetence of the current administration became evident to Warham in a tremendous moment of revelation.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=752962#post752962

Thanks, turk.:cool:

Will wonders ever cease???:D

ODShowtime

11-08-2005, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
If you have an opinion on just one issue around here, people will stick a label on you if they don't agree with you.

dude you're one of the main offenders :rolleyes:

Seshmeister

11-08-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Phil theStalker
What did you do t2oday...for FREEDOM?

:spank:

EFFECTING YOUR LIFE TODAY
EVEN IF YOU DON'T REALIZE IT OR KNOW HIS NAME

I'll tell you what I didn't do.

I didn't fuck one of my 187 slaves.

BigBadBrian

11-08-2005, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by ODShowtime
dude you're one of the main offenders :rolleyes:

What do you know?

You're just a socialist-liberal whiner! :D :D