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BigBadBrian
11-17-2005, 12:43 PM
An Incomplete Investigation
Why did the 9/11 Commission ignore "Able Danger"?

BY LOUIS FREEH
Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:01 a.m. EST

It was interesting to hear from the 9/11 Commission again on Tuesday. This self-perpetuating and privately funded group of lobbyists and lawyers has recently opined on hurricanes, nuclear weapons, the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel and even the New York subway system. Now it offers yet another "report card" on the progress of the FBI and CIA in the war against terrorism, along with its "back-seat" take and some further unsolicited narrative about how things ought to be on the "front lines."

Yet this is also a good time for the country to make some assessments of the 9/11 Commission itself. Recent revelations from the military intelligence operation code-named "Able Danger" have cast light on a missed opportunity that could have potentially prevented 9/11. Specifically, Able Danger concluded in February 2000 that military experts had identified Mohamed Atta by name (and maybe photograph) as an al Qaeda agent operating in the U.S. Subsequently, military officers assigned to Able Danger were prevented from sharing this critical information with FBI agents, even though appointments had been made to do so. Why?

There are other questions that need answers. Was Able Danger intelligence provided to the 9/11 Commission prior to the finalization of its report, and, if so, why was it not explored? In sum, what did the 9/11 commissioners and their staff know about Able Danger and when did they know it?

The Able Danger intelligence, if confirmed, is undoubtedly the most relevant fact of the entire post-9/11 inquiry. Even the most junior investigator would immediately know that the name and photo ID of Atta in 2000 is precisely the kind of tactical intelligence the FBI has many times employed to prevent attacks and arrest terrorists. Yet the 9/11 Commission inexplicably concluded that it "was not historically significant." This astounding conclusion--in combination with the failure to investigate Able Danger and incorporate it into its findings--raises serious challenges to the commission's credibility and, if the facts prove out, might just render the commission historically insignificant itself.





The facts relating to Able Danger finally started to be reported in mid-August. U.S. Army Col. Anthony Shaffer, a veteran intelligence officer, publicly revealed that the Able Danger team had identified Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers by mid-2000 but were prevented by military lawyers from giving this information to the FBI. One week later, Navy Capt. Scott J. Phillpott, a U.S. Naval Academy graduate who managed the program for the Pentagon's Special Operations Command, confirmed "Atta was identified by Able Danger by January-February of 2000."
On Aug. 18, 2005, the Pentagon initially stated that "a probe" had found nothing to back up Col. Shaffer's claims. Two weeks later, however, Defense Department officials acknowledged that its "inquiry" had found "three more people who recall seeing an intelligence briefing slide that identified the ringleader of the 9/11 attacks a year before the hijackings and terrorist strikes." These same officials also stated that "documents and electronic files created by . . . Able Danger were destroyed under standing orders that limit the military's use of intelligence gathered about people in the United States." Then in September 2005, the Pentagon doubled back and blocked several military officers from testifying at an open Congressional hearing about the Able Danger program.

Two members of Congress, Curt Weldon and Dan Burton, have also publicly stated that shortly after the 9/11 attacks they provided then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley with a "chart" containing preattack information collected by Able Danger about al Qaeda. A spokesperson for the White House has confirmed that Mr. Hadley "recalled seeing such a chart in that time period but . . . did not recall whether he saw it during a meeting . . . and that a search of National Security Council files had failed to produce such a chart."

Thomas Kean, the chairman of the 9/11 Commission, reacted to Able Danger with the standard Washington PR approach. He lashed out at the Bush administration and demanded that the Pentagon conduct an "investigation" to evaluate the "credibility" of Col. Shaffer and Capt. Phillpott--rather than demand a substantive investigation into what failed in the first place. This from a former New Jersey governor who, along with other commissioners, routinely appeared in public espousing his own conclusions about 9/11 long before the commission's inquiry was completed and long before all the facts were in! This while dismissing out of hand the major conflicts of interest on the commission itself about obstructions to information-sharing within the intelligence community!

Nevertheless, the final 9/11 Commission report, released on July 22, 2004, concluded that "American intelligence agencies were unaware of Mr. Atta until the day of the attacks." This now looks to be embarrassingly wrong. Yet amazingly, commission leaders acknowledged on Aug. 12 that their staff in fact met with a Navy officer 10 days before releasing the report, who "asserted that a highly classified intelligence operation, Able Danger, had identified Mohammed Atta to be a member of an al Qaeda cell located in Brooklyn." (Capt. Phillpott says he briefed them in July 2004.) The commission's statement goes on to say that the staff determined that "the officer's account was not sufficiently reliable to warrant revision of the report or further investigation," and that the intelligence operation "did not turn out to be historically significant," despite substantial corroboration from other seasoned intelligence officers.

This dismissive and apparently unsupported conclusion would have us believe that a key piece of evidence was summarily rejected in less than 10 days without serious investigation. The commission, at the very least, should have interviewed the 80 members of Able Danger, as the Pentagon did, five of whom say they saw "the chart." But this would have required admitting that the late-breaking news was inconveniently raised. So it was grossly neglected and branded as insignificant. Such a half-baked conclusion, drawn in only 10 days without any real investigation, simply ignores what looks like substantial direct evidence to the contrary coming from our own trained military intelligence officers.

No wonder the 9/11 families were outraged by these revelations and called for a "new" commission to investigate. "I'm angry that my son's death could have been prevented," seethed Diane Horning, whose son Matthew was killed at the World Trade Center. On Aug. 17, 2005, a coalition of family members known as the September 11 Advocates rightly blasted 9/11 Commission leaders Mr. Kean and Lee Hamilton for pooh-poohing Able Danger's findings as not "historically significant." Advocate Mindy Kleinberg aptly notes, "They [the 9/11 Commission] somehow made a determination that this was not important enough. To me, that says somebody there is not using good judgment. And if I'm questioning the judgment of this one case, what other things might they have missed?" This is a stinging indictment of the commission by the 9/11 families.





The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Arlen Specter, has led the way in cleaning up the 9/11 Commission's unfinished business. Amid a very full plate of responsibilities, he conducted a hearing after noting that Col. Shaffer and Capt. Phillpott "appear to have credibility." Himself a former prosecutor, Mr. Specter noted: "If Mr. Atta and other 9/11 terrorists were identified before the attacks, it would be a very serious breach not to have that information passed along . . . we ought to get to the bottom of it." Indeed we should. The 9/11 Commission gets an "I" grade--incomplete--for its dereliction regarding Able Danger. The Joint Intelligence Committees should reconvene and, in addition to Able Danger team members, we should have the 9/11 commissioners appear as witnesses so the families can hear their explanation why this doesn't matter.


Mr. Freeh, a former FBI director, is the author of "My FBI" (St. Martin's, 2005).

Link (http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007559)

Nickdfresh
11-17-2005, 12:53 PM
Like this dick bag LOUIS FREEH should be critiquing anybody on "ignoring" stuff...


I wonder if he figured out how to use a computer to type that blame-shifting, horse-shit article.

Uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh!

FORD
11-17-2005, 12:57 PM
And they continue to "ignore" the real truth of Able Danger. Namely the fact that Mohammed Atta was an employee of the BCE/CIA "agricultural imports" division under Jeb's supervision in Miami.

Millermoos
11-17-2005, 01:01 PM
I really would like to know the truth. Like many others I have lost a friend in the two towers.
Why did the 9/11 Commission ignore "Able Danger"?
I don't know what to say: 1) they are covering for someone big.
2)They are totally incompetent.
3) They can't admit to themselves and have the honesty to tell the families they fuck big time like that guy what's his name Brown that went on TV saying that the problem was not that he was incompetent and they where disorganised for what happened in New Orleans no the bastard went and imply on National Television (that everybody saw around the world nut just us in the Uk) that he put water and food in the dome but too many people went in the dome. Implying basically that it was the people's fault that they went all to the dome for shelter like you do when there is a hurricane and no way out, not his fault.
4) They don't see it as relevant, the just don't see it.
Millermoos

ELVIS
11-17-2005, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Millermoos
I really would like to know the truth. Like many others I have lost a friend in the two towers.
Why did the 9/11 Commission ignore "Able Danger"?
I don't know what to say: 1) they are covering for someone big.
2)They are totally incompetent.
3) They can't admit to themselves and have the honesty to tell the families they fuck big time like that guy what's his name Brown that went on TV saying that the problem was not that he was incompetent and they where disorganised for what happened in New Orleans no the bastard went and imply on National Television (that everybody saw around the world nut just us in the Uk) that he put water and food in the dome but too many people went in the dome. Implying basically that it was the people's fault that they went all to the dome for shelter like you do when there is a hurricane and no way out, not his fault.
4) They don't see it as relevant, the just don't see it.
Millermoos

Nothing you say is relevant...

Your posts can't be understood...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have dyslexia...:rolleyes:

SO FUCKING WHAT ?? I DON'T BELIEVE A FUCKING WORD YOU SAY !!

Do us all a favor and stay out of this fucking forum with your lying dyslexic bullshit!


Cya


:elvis:

Nickdfresh
11-17-2005, 01:28 PM
I not dismissing ABLE DANGER, but I'm not taking it at face value either. People are politicizing this, and the claims of various members, the main one of which (a former LTC who is conveniently writing a book) was basically fired from the US Army because he was a mental case, and the senior commander of the unit (which was closed down by the BUSH Admin. in 2002) is now a senior National Security advisor for the BUSH Admin. I believe, the one that supposedly refused to pass the intell. on ATTA.

There's too many "what ifs" to take this stuff at face value.

And LOUIS FREEH is the one that ignored the fact that ARAB men were in US flight schools, stating that they only wanted to learn to fly and navigate, and not bother with taking off or landing. His 'political correctness' excuse was complete bullshit as well! He dismissed one of his agent's repeated attempts to investigate this. Pardon me if I think this idiot was full-of-shit, and a disaster for the FBI.

Millermoos
11-21-2005, 07:56 AM
I don't know what's your problem Elvis.You have a closed Heart and I am going to ignore your post as I don't find you post relevant cos the only thing you are doing is putting me down for no reason. You need help. May God Bless your troubled Soul.

Namely the fact that Mohammed Atta was an employee of the BCE/CIA "agricultural imports" division under Jeb's supervision in Miami.
I was not aware of this, this is terrible, really?
Millermoos

Baby's On Fire
11-24-2005, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by FORD
And they continue to "ignore" the real truth of Able Danger. Namely the fact that Mohammed Atta was an employee of the BCE/CIA "agricultural imports" division under Jeb's supervision in Miami.

What facts?

FORD
11-24-2005, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
What facts?

Remember that flight school in FLORIDA where Atta and some of his buddies allegedly learned how to fly?

The flight school (Huffman Aviation) happens to be owned and operated by Wally Hilliard and Rudi Dekkers, 2 CIA agents who work under direction of Jeb Bush and his father Poppy. Atta accompanied those guys on many flights to Colombia to pick up "agricultural shipments".

The fact that this alleged terrorist was a CIA drug smuggler with a direct tie to the Bush family is a little problematic for the Chimpministration (as if they didn't have enough credibility problems)

And this is why the Able Danger report is being suppressed.

Baby's On Fire
11-24-2005, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Remember that flight school in FLORIDA where Atta and some of his buddies allegedly learned how to fly?

The flight school (Huffman Aviation) happens to be owned and operated by Wally Hilliard and Rudi Dekkers, 2 CIA agents who work under direction of Jeb Bush and his father Poppy. Atta accompanied those guys on many flights to Colombia to pick up "agricultural shipments".

The fact that this alleged terrorist was a CIA drug smuggler with a direct tie to the Bush family is a little problematic for the Chimpministration (as if they didn't have enough credibility problems)

And this is why the Able Danger report is being suppressed.

What is your souce? Substantiate this claim. This woild be coool. And if true why is no one doing anything about it?

If you're sure of it and so anti-BCE why don't you take it on?

FORD
11-24-2005, 01:19 PM
Why did Jeb Bush and federal agents seize records from Huffman Aviation - Florida flight school of Mohammed Atta, and other 9/11 hijackers - in the middle of the night immediately following the attacks of September 11th and load them onto a C-130? And why did Jeb Bush know, hours after the attack, where to look?

"Whatever secrets Dekkers may possess about the terrorists, records from his flight school were deemed sensitive enough to have merited being escorted back to Washington by Florida Governor Jeb Bush aboard a C-130 cargo plane, which left Sarasota less than 24 hours after the September 11 attack."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0212/S00058.htm

Valentine:
The federal authorities came in and grabbed up all of the records of the flight school.

Hopsicker:
That’s right. They flew them out on a plane that also had Jeb Bush aboard.

Valentine:
The federal authorities told the local law enforcement authorities to keep their noses out of the investigation, didn’t they?

Hopsicker:
That’s correct. I sat down with two Southern lawmen, a current sheriff and his immediate predecessor. These two guys looked me dead in the eye and said that, based on what they have seen with a lot of CIA-connected covert operations in the area, the CIA was somehow involved in, if not responsible for, the World Trade Center attacks. You might expect some wild-eyed leftist radical to say that. But these are two Southern sheriffs. They have spent years watching CIA activities that they could not interfere with.
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=new...

And what are the linkages between the flight school and its Republican owner, Wally Hilliard, to US covert agencies and the covert drug trade?

"A Learjet belonging to the true owner of the Venice flight school that trained both terrorist pilots who flew into the World Trade Center was seized with more than 30 pounds of heroin onboard by Federal Agents in July of 2000 at the Orlando Executive Airport."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/92/e...

What's the largely unexplored connection between Atta, the CIA, al Qaeda and drugs?

From Sander Hicks:

...what makes Ben-Veniste such an intriguing player on the 9/11 Commission (The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States) is his experience with rogue drug-running CIA operatives. Ben-Veniste defended Barry Seal, the notorious smuggler who flew C-123 military cargo planes filled with cocaine into Mena, Arkansas on behalf of the contras.

Al Qaeda's lead 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta, was allegedly partying with CIA-connected pilots while he got his flight training in fall/winter 2000 at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Fla., where two of the other 9/11 hijacker pilots trained. Atta wasn't acting much like a holy martyr: He wore jeans and sneakers, played video games, bought himself a red Pontiac and was said to be a hedonist. The Press posed the question to Ben-Veniste: If Atta belonged to the fundamentalist Muslim group, why was he snorting cocaine and frequenting strip bars?

"You know," said Ben-Veniste, as he smiled a little. "That's a heck of a question."
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/print.php?sid=82

And Daniel Hopsicker:

FBI agents harassed and intimidated witnesses to the 9/11 terrorist conspiracy’s activities in Florida, issuing warnings to avoid talking with reporters, say current and former residents in Venice, Florida. At least one eyewitness, who knew Mohamed Atta because he lived next door for a time, received regular visits for over six months after the attack from FBI agents eager to ensure she continued to remain silent. Several said they felt unfairly singled out because what they saw and heard is at considerable variance with the official story of the terrorist cadre’s time in Florida.

An American girl named Amanda Keller, for example, briefly lived with Mohamed Atta in Venice, according to both local news reports and numerous eyewitnesses.

http://www.madcowprod.com/issue44.html

not a lot of doubt who Mohammad Atta really worked for......

Baby's On Fire
11-24-2005, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Why did Jeb Bush and federal agents seize records from Huffman Aviation - Florida flight school of Mohammed Atta, and other 9/11 hijackers - in the middle of the night immediately following the attacks of September 11th and load them onto a C-130? And why did Jeb Bush know, hours after the attack, where to look?

"Whatever secrets Dekkers may possess about the terrorists, records from his flight school were deemed sensitive enough to have merited being escorted back to Washington by Florida Governor Jeb Bush aboard a C-130 cargo plane, which left Sarasota less than 24 hours after the September 11 attack."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0212/S00058.htm

Valentine:
The federal authorities came in and grabbed up all of the records of the flight school.

Hopsicker:
That’s right. They flew them out on a plane that also had Jeb Bush aboard.

Valentine:
The federal authorities told the local law enforcement authorities to keep their noses out of the investigation, didn’t they?

Hopsicker:
That’s correct. I sat down with two Southern lawmen, a current sheriff and his immediate predecessor. These two guys looked me dead in the eye and said that, based on what they have seen with a lot of CIA-connected covert operations in the area, the CIA was somehow involved in, if not responsible for, the World Trade Center attacks. You might expect some wild-eyed leftist radical to say that. But these are two Southern sheriffs. They have spent years watching CIA activities that they could not interfere with.
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=new...

And what are the linkages between the flight school and its Republican owner, Wally Hilliard, to US covert agencies and the covert drug trade?

"A Learjet belonging to the true owner of the Venice flight school that trained both terrorist pilots who flew into the World Trade Center was seized with more than 30 pounds of heroin onboard by Federal Agents in July of 2000 at the Orlando Executive Airport."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/92/e...

What's the largely unexplored connection between Atta, the CIA, al Qaeda and drugs?

From Sander Hicks:

...what makes Ben-Veniste such an intriguing player on the 9/11 Commission (The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States) is his experience with rogue drug-running CIA operatives. Ben-Veniste defended Barry Seal, the notorious smuggler who flew C-123 military cargo planes filled with cocaine into Mena, Arkansas on behalf of the contras.

Al Qaeda's lead 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta, was allegedly partying with CIA-connected pilots while he got his flight training in fall/winter 2000 at Huffman Aviation in Venice, Fla., where two of the other 9/11 hijacker pilots trained. Atta wasn't acting much like a holy martyr: He wore jeans and sneakers, played video games, bought himself a red Pontiac and was said to be a hedonist. The Press posed the question to Ben-Veniste: If Atta belonged to the fundamentalist Muslim group, why was he snorting cocaine and frequenting strip bars?

"You know," said Ben-Veniste, as he smiled a little. "That's a heck of a question."
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/print.php?sid=82

And Daniel Hopsicker:

FBI agents harassed and intimidated witnesses to the 9/11 terrorist conspiracy’s activities in Florida, issuing warnings to avoid talking with reporters, say current and former residents in Venice, Florida. At least one eyewitness, who knew Mohamed Atta because he lived next door for a time, received regular visits for over six months after the attack from FBI agents eager to ensure she continued to remain silent. Several said they felt unfairly singled out because what they saw and heard is at considerable variance with the official story of the terrorist cadre’s time in Florida.

An American girl named Amanda Keller, for example, briefly lived with Mohamed Atta in Venice, according to both local news reports and numerous eyewitnesses.

http://www.madcowprod.com/issue44.html

not a lot of doubt who Mohammad Atta really worked for......

Agreed...assuming this isn't a load of bullshit. Never heard of that publication before......why didn't 60 MINUTES for example, do a piece on this if it was legitimate ?

Believe me, I'd love it to be legitimate. I fucking HATE GWB and that fat George Costanaza wannabe Penis Cheney.

But that doesn't mean I believe in the conspiracy theory.

LoungeMachine
11-24-2005, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Remember that flight school in FLORIDA where Atta and some of his buddies allegedly learned how to fly?



Fly........but not land :rolleyes:

Red Flag anyone?

FORD
11-25-2005, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Fly........but not land :rolleyes:

Red Flag anyone?

That's the "official story". But if Atta was flying to Colombia for the CIA/BCE, and he came back, one would assume that he knew how to land.