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Triumph
11-28-2005, 02:31 PM
The news is filled with stories about how people are up in arms for the way some retailers are treating the holiday season and its patrons.
But i have to ask, what is the problem?
Is it really as big a deal as people claim?
Employees of some retailers are not allowed to say Merry Christmas, but does that stop the patron from saying it to them? I don't think it does.
For some to demand a change in policy makes them no better than those they feel offended by and if the issue means that much to them they should shop someplace else instead of trying to dictate their general policy to them.
Nothing is stopping me from saying Merry Christmas so i don't get the point of all the crying over it.
You are going there to buy things, not establish a lasting friendship with them so say what you want and let the store decide what its policy will be for its workers.
When it becomes illegal to say Merry Christmas in your home and to your family then i'd say you have a problem but all this crying over what policy a store chooses to impliment, it's much ado about nothing in this dogs eyes - - Woof.

Matt White
11-28-2005, 02:36 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS

jhale667
11-28-2005, 03:03 PM
I think if 'Merry Christmas' or 'Happy Holidays' offends you, you need to get a hobby...or go into hibernation this time of year.....Besides, grinches are FOR ME TO POOP ON!!! :D

Northern Girl
11-28-2005, 03:30 PM
I work at a big company HQ'd in Mpls., so there's obviously a diverse group of employees. Consequently, we are not allowed to decorate or have events remotely religiously related. We get Christmas off, but it is called "winter holiday." Easter is "spring holiday." We can't decorate for Halloween either, which is not a religious holiday, but obviously offensive to some people. Good or bad, it's definitely made me more aware of what I say to people.

Then I have my aunt who hates if i write X-Mas, because she says I'm taking Christ out of Christmas when I do that. Like Christmas has anything to do with Christ anymore. :rolleyes:

Triumph
11-28-2005, 04:33 PM
I saw footage of the day after Thanksgiving shopping madness and people were just running all over each other to get in the store first so they wouldn't miss out on the popular toys and whatnot.
That is sending the wrong message to kids when a parent will trample someone to buy a certain toy. it was rediculous.
Everyone shops according to lists anymore which i thought lists were for kids to write Santa as part of the fanatsy of being a child.
I throw lists away when i'm handed one. when it comes to giving you will get from me what I decide to give, and it is always interesting.
If someone is ever not happy or complains, which has never happened, you'll get nothing else from me in the future cause i find that to be an ungreatful act.
even if they didn't like the gift it is still better than recieving nothing, right?
what happened to the thought being what was important?
I am glad for one thing, my children have never been greedy in that fashion and they feel that it is Christ who should be recieving the gifts being it is a celebration of his birth. so in the end they are more about giving than recieving and it touches people's hearts when they witness this from them as it does my own.

Merry Christmas Everyone!

Northern Girl
11-28-2005, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Triumph
I saw footage of the day after Thanksgiving shopping madness and people were just running all over each other to get in the store first so they wouldn't miss out on the popular toys and whatnot.
That is sending the wrong message to kids when a parent will trample someone to buy a certain toy.

No doubt. I won't go to any of those Black Friday sales just because. I won't patronize the stores that whore themselves to perpetuate the commercialism of Christmas.


Originally posted by Triumph
what happened to the thought being what was important?

I agree. I don't ask people what they want. I spend a lot of time picking something out perfect for that person. I pay attention; I listen; I observe. Wouldn't that make you feel special that someone went to that much trouble? I remember one year getting a wad of cash from my parents for whatever reason, and I was sooo pissed and offended. I would have rather had a $10 gift that was given some thought than a few hundred dollars that took no effort or thought.


Originally posted by Triumph
I am glad for one thing, my children have never been greedy in that fashion and they feel that it is Christ who should be recieving the gifts being it is a celebration of his birth. so in the end they are more about giving than recieving and it touches people's hearts when they witness this from them as it does my own.

That's awesome. There should be more parents like you. My nieces are older and are still sooo greedy. I've given up on my idealized version of Christmas that I used to dream about. It's just another day of eating and presents now. I've dropped all my expectations that it will ever be anything more.

ALinChainz
11-28-2005, 05:12 PM
Happy Holidays NG ... :yankeeros

:D

Northern Girl
11-28-2005, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by ALinChainz
Happy Holidays NG ... :yankeeros


See now that was very thoughtful...

Thank you! ;)

Jimmy Jingles
11-28-2005, 06:00 PM
Happy Festivus!!!

The Feats of Strength and the The Airing of Grievances will commence shortly.

Dan
11-28-2005, 07:11 PM
Happy Hour.:)

blonddgirl777
11-28-2005, 09:35 PM
Happy "red nose" season!

Millermoos
11-29-2005, 06:05 AM
Merry Christmas!!!
But i have to ask, what is the problem?
Is it really as big a deal as people claim?
Not for me is not a big deal is a period of celebration but everybody is different. For some it's religious, for others is indulging in massive retail therapy.
Millermoos

Jesus Christ
11-29-2005, 02:25 PM
Happy Birthday (to Me)

bastardog
11-29-2005, 02:37 PM
What happen if someone told me "happy Budha" ( is just and example people)......probably I will reply "Happy Budha" and that doesn't offend me and maybe I haven't any idea of what he is talking about.
So what's the problem about saying Merry Christmas?!

bastardog
11-29-2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Jesus Christ
Happy Birthday (to Me)

Come on Jesus, you know you didn't was birth on December.
Your birth day is between March and April.
Just that Catholic church change the celebration to December 25 to try to erase gradually (and do it succesfully) another celebration.

...by the way I'm Catholic

Cathedral
11-29-2005, 03:02 PM
Well, If someone doesn't believe in Christ then how can it even be a Holiday for them in the first place?

The whole thing makes no sense and is just another way of attacking people's freedoms.

It won't work though, you can't win against God.

m_dixon1984
11-29-2005, 03:33 PM
As far as stores go why not just have a policy of saying simply, thanks for shopping at -insert name of only-interested-in-the-bottom line-anyway-retailer here-. Anything a cashier or door greater says to me has the same amount of meaning as slab of concrete. So stuff your Happy Holidays, or Merry Christmases or Seasons Greetings, whatever the fuck is popular this year. When I worked in retail I thanked people for their business, smiled, and was polite when they offered their Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays/Joyful Chahukah, Blessed Kwanzaa or whatever. I was running a business and I only went as far as to put up lights and a few decorations. Nothing Christian and nothing in any way offensive to them or anyone else, myself included. Just enough to make out that I wasn't trying to ignore the whole holiday in the first place and possibly risk driving away customers.

Personally, I think stores and governments are justified in using Happy Holidays, even though I wouldn't, because of Chanukah and Kwanzaa. Any Christians that disagree and are offended should really get a little more grounded in reality. They aren't the only people celebrating a holiday at the end of December and retailers have to be sensitive to that. It's not anti-Christian or even politically correct; it's pro bottom-line. Why risk offending Jewish or African people and losing a chance to get their money.

Thanks for buying my hugely marked up merchandise.

M

jhale667
11-29-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by m_dixon1984
[BAny Christians that disagree and are offended should really get a little more grounded in reality.
[/B]

Like that's gonna happen...LOL;)

The Scatologist
11-29-2005, 04:40 PM
I'm not a Christian, and was not raised a Christian, and was raised under another religion, but I don't see why these people with sticks up their asses are offended by people saying Merry Christmas.

Sure, it's a religious holiday, but it's also a national holiday. It's a tradition. Hell, even my family celebrates it.

You can either have a good time, or you can go suck a dick.

But of course, for some people, sucking a dick is their idea of a good time so uh errrrrr

m_dixon1984
11-29-2005, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by jhale667
Like that's gonna happen...LOL;)

Wishful thinking, I suppose.

But it's that time of year. The time for non-denominational, politically correct miracles!!

Happy materialistic, greedy, shopping stampedes, everyone.

M

m_dixon1984
11-29-2005, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by The Scatologist
I'm not a Christian, and was not raised a Christian, and was raised under another religion, but I don't see why these people with sticks up their asses are offended by people saying Merry Christmas.

Sure, it's a religious holiday, but it's also a national holiday. It's a tradition. Hell, even my family celebrates it.

You can either have a good time, or you can go suck a dick.

But of course, for some people, sucking a dick is their idea of a good time so uh errrrrr

You're right, of course. Christian holidays have so ingrained themselves in our western societies that non-Christians have been all but forced to adopt them as their own. I was raised in a non-religious family, parents anyway, who grew up with Christian parents for the most part. Their upbringing essentially marked the end of believing in or practicing any sort of organized religion. We celebrate Christmas our own way but of course it retains the spirit of giving, thankfulness, and family togetherness that most Christians observe (at least on the British side of my family - my step-father's Canadian family tries real hard but they focus way too much on the gifts and the spirit has mostly been lost, despite all being actively Christian, I might add).

So in my family the non-Christians celebrate Christmas in a way that most religious people would find acceptable (minus the mass and prayers) and my Christian step-family has become a bunch of materialistic shopping whores.

Is it any wonder I have such a scrooge like attitude towards this holiday? Don't get me wrong, I love the time I spend with my family over Christmas and I hope that I can continue it when I have a family of my own. I'm certainly going to make every effort to keep our notion of Christmas alive. I wish I could see Christians doing the same.

Praise, Jesus, I trampled a lady for 50% off a Bratz Rock Angelz. God bless toy makers everywhere.

M