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LoungeMachine
12-30-2005, 12:27 PM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Justice Department has opened an investigation into leaks to the media about the classified domestic National Security Agency surveillance program.

The New York Times was the first to report the story on December 16th and then officials confirmed the existence of it to CNN and other organizations.

"The Justice Department has opened an investigation of the unauthorized disclosure of classified information related to the NSA," a Justice Department official tells CNN.

The secret eavesdropping program, which President Bush authorized shortly after the September 11 attacks, allows the NSA to intercept domestic communications without a warrant, as long as one party is outside the United States.

Bush, who confirmed the program's existence earlier this month, says it is essential to help counterterrorism agents quickly trace the communications of terror suspects. (Full story)

"We know that a two-minute phone conversation between somebody linked to al Qaeda here and an operative overseas could lead directly to the loss of thousands of lives," Bush said during a December 19 news conference. "To save American lives, we must be able to act fast and to detect these conversations so we can prevent new attacks."

"It has been effective in disrupting the enemy while safeguarding our civil liberties," the president added.

Bush, who first authorized the program in early 2002, said he has renewed the program over 30 times since its inception and reviews it every 45 days.

But Democrats and some Republicans have questioned the legality of the program, and some lawmakers have called for an independent investigation or congressional hearings. Many lawmakers question why the the president did not get authorization for the wiretaps from a secret court established by the Federal Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

"FISA says it's the exclusive law to authorize wiretaps," Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold of Wisconsin told CNN. "This administration is playing fast and loose with the law in national security. The issue here is whether the president of the United States is putting himself above the law, and I believe he has done so."

Sen. Jack Reed, D-Rhode Island, said the president could have gone back to a FISA court to get approval even after the wiretaps started if he was concerned about speed. "I'm just stunned by the president's rationales with respect to the illegal wiretapping," Reed said. "There are two points that have to be emphasized with respect to the FISA procedure: They're secret and they're retroactive.

"There is no situation where time is of such an essence they can't use the FISA proceedings. And so the president's justification, I think, is without merit."

But Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said the president's authorization of the program was within his legal authority.

"There were many people, many lawyers within the administration who advised the president that he had an inherent authority as commander-in-chief under the Constitution to engage in these kind of signals, intelligence of our enemy," Gonzales said. (Read Attorney General Gonzales' defense of the secret wiretaps)

However, former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, who negotiated the congressional resolution with the White House, disputes the claim that the authorization to use force permitted Bush to launch the secret wiretaps without court authorization. (Full Story)

The defense attorneys for several terror suspects prosecuted by the Justice Department said Wednesday they might file court motions questioning the legality of the NSA surveillance project. (Full Story)

Kevin Bohn of CNN's Washington Bureau contributed to this report.

LoungeMachine
12-30-2005, 12:29 PM
Oh, and here's your link, ELVIs....you petulant whiney twerp


http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/30/nsa.leak/

Guitar Shark
12-30-2005, 12:36 PM
I love how the administration is so concerned about getting to the bottom of THIS leak probe, but not the CIA/Plame one.

LoungeMachine
12-30-2005, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I love how the administration is so concerned about getting to the bottom of THIS leak probe, but not the CIA/Plame one.

Why do you hate America so much Sharkey? ;)

You must be on the side of the terrorists.

Warham
12-30-2005, 04:04 PM
This leak is ten times worse than the Plame one. Plame wasn't covert in any sense of the word. Even her five year old twins run around saying she's a spy in school.

FORD
12-30-2005, 04:28 PM
Oh, so Bush committing a crime isn't serious, but someone revealing the fact that Bush committed a crime is?

God damn you right wingers have fucked up logic...... :rolleyes:

Nickdfresh
12-30-2005, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Warham
This leak is ten times worse than the Plame one. Plame wasn't covert in any sense of the word. Even her five year old twins run around saying she's a spy in school.

Um, dummy, the fictional CIA front company that PLAME "worked for" had several covert operatives that were compromised by ROVE and his gang of fuck nuts...

Warham
12-30-2005, 08:33 PM
Doesn't matter. The fact is, her identity wasn't secret. Even Bob Woodward knew about it before this supposed 'leak' happened, almost laughing it off like it wasn't a big deal.

When is Rove getting indicted?

Warham
12-30-2005, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Oh, so Bush committing a crime isn't serious, but someone revealing the fact that Bush committed a crime is?

God damn you right wingers have fucked up logic...... :rolleyes:

Anybody leaking anything to do with national security secrets is committing a crime. Period.

blueturk
12-30-2005, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Anybody leaking anything to do with national security secrets is committing a crime. Period.

It's just a lot worse if Bush can't distance himself from the whole thing like he could with the Plame leak...:rolleyes:

FORD
12-30-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Doesn't matter. The fact is, her identity wasn't secret. Even Bob Woodward knew about it before this supposed 'leak' happened, almost laughing it off like it wasn't a big deal.

When is Rove getting indicted?

Fitzmas isn't over yet. Not by a long shot.... :cool:

Nickdfresh
12-30-2005, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Anybody leaking anything to do with national security secrets is committing a crime. Period.

Unless he's REPUBLICAN?

Bullshit, this is another Pentagon Papers episode...The good of society outweighs BUSH's right to, er, illegally run wiretap on American citizens...

ODShowtime
12-30-2005, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Doesn't matter. The fact is, her identity wasn't secret. Even Bob Woodward knew about it before this supposed 'leak' happened, almost laughing it off like it wasn't a big deal.

When is Rove getting indicted?

Of course. Because in the fantasy world you live in, as long as you can't be convicted because of an action, it's totally acceptable, no matter what it is.

:rolleyes:

Warham
01-01-2006, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Unless he's REPUBLICAN?

Bullshit, this is another Pentagon Papers episode...The good of society outweighs BUSH's right to, er, illegally run wiretap on American citizens...

I said ANYBODY. If it's a Republican, they should face the heat too. But for some reason, I doubt it in this case.

Dr. Love
01-01-2006, 03:38 PM
I'm not sure if I'm more disturbed that the government is secretly spying on us, or that they are going after the person that told us about it.

blueturk
01-02-2006, 09:34 AM
What's all the fuss about? Dubya already addressed this issue once. Of course, he lied...

"There are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order.

"Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so.

"It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution"

George W. Bush, April 2004, Buffalo NY