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Seshmeister
01-13-2006, 08:12 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4611518.stm

A Swiss senator carrying out an inquiry into claims the CIA has run illegal secret detention centres in Europe has said he has no doubt they exist.

Dick Marty accused the US of violating human rights and attacked European nations for their "shocking" passivity in the face of such violations.

He is due to give a preliminary report to the Council of Europe on 23 January.

The US has refused to confirm or deny the allegations over secret prisons. It has denied using or condoning torture.

Mr Marty was asked to lead the inquiry by the Council of Europe, the continent's human rights watchdog, after the claims surfaced late last year.

Speaking to journalists in Switzerland, he said he was personally convinced the US had undertaken illegal activities in Europe in transporting and detaining prisoners.

However, he acknowledged he had yet to produce concrete proof and said he expected his inquiry to last another 12 months.

"The question is: was the CIA really working in Europe?" he said. "I believe we can say today, without a doubt, yes."

Washington's policy "respects neither human rights nor the Geneva Conventions", he said.

He cited as evidence the case of Egyptian cleric and terror suspect Osama Mustafa Hassan, also known as Abu Omar, who was allegedly kidnapped by CIA agents from Milan in 2003 and flown to Egypt for interrogation.

'Dirty work'

Mr Marty also criticised European governments for failing to act when it seemed clear they knew about the US policy.

"It's not possible to transport people from one place to another in such a manner without the secret services knowing about it," he said.

"What was shocking was the passivity with which we all, in Europe, have welcomed these things.

"Europeans should be less hypocritical and not turn a blind eye. There are those who do the dirty work abroad but there are also those who know when they should close their eyes when that dirty work is being done."

Mr Marty said it was unfair to single out for criticism Romania and Poland, both named in media reports as possible sites for the centres. Both have denied involvement.

Governments across Europe had been "willingly silent", he said, and it was now time for Europeans to decide whether they would continue to tolerate the illegal actions of the CIA.

The BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Bern says Mr Marty's comments come amid growing controversy within Switzerland over the leak of classified information from the Swiss intelligence service.

The documents appear to confirm the existence of secret CIA interrogation centres in several Eastern European countries, she says.

Seshmeister
01-13-2006, 08:12 PM
Thanks to our politicians for just creating another 1000 terrorists...

Fucking idiot scum.

FORD
01-13-2006, 08:14 PM
Any comments from the brain dead Busheep about yet more evidence of flaming fascism??

squib
01-13-2006, 08:29 PM
Don't let your hatred of Bush confuse your logic. In this article it doesn't sound official to me. Lot of accusations. AND WHAT IF IT IS TRUE? Who do you want to protect?

Picture this hypothetical: August 2001 CIA in Europe have intellegence leading them to trail of highjackers. They direct a covert team to aquire information through means you believe are dark and secretive. Picture yourself as the operative. Fuck the consequences, I'd get the info. Plot foiled and the New York sky line has to extremely tall towers in it. There is no memorial being planned in Pennsylvania and the Pentagon was never hit.

Busheep? Facism? Relax.

FORD
01-13-2006, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by squib
Don't let your hatred of Bush confuse your logic. In this article it doesn't sound official to me. Lot of accusations. AND WHAT IF IT IS TRUE? Who do you want to protect?

Picture this hypothetical: August 2001 CIA in Europe have intellegence leading them to trail of highjackers. They direct a covert team to aquire information through means you believe are dark and secretive. Picture yourself as the operative. Fuck the consequences, I'd get the info. Plot foiled and the New York sky line has to extremely tall towers in it. There is no memorial being planned in Pennsylvania and the Pentagon was never hit.

Busheep? Facism? Relax.


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BigBadBrian
01-15-2006, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Any comments from the brain dead Busheep about yet more evidence of flaming fascism??

It's about time Europe helped out with the War on Terror.

Good Show! :)

Nickdfresh
01-15-2006, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's about time Europe helped out with the War on Terror.

Good Show! :)

You mean by the fact that Europeans (especially the French and Germans) and Canadians are now shouldering most of the burden in that actual 'War on Terror' in Afghanistan? Yeah, about time you got a clue you mindless, nationalist, 'America-Firster,' buffoon...

Dr. Love
01-15-2006, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
It's official - CIA kidnap people and torture them


Originally posted by Seshmeister
However, he acknowledged he had yet to produce concrete proof and said he expected his inquiry to last another 12 months.



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