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4moreyears
01-17-2006, 01:03 PM
WASHINGTON - The White House accused former Vice President Al Gore of hypocrisy Tuesday for his assertion that President Bush broke the law by eavesdropping on Americans without court approval.

“If Al Gore is going to be the voice of the Democrats on national security matters, we welcome it,” White House press secretary Scott McClellan said in a swipe at the Democrat, who lost the 2000 election to Bush only after the Supreme Court intervened.

Gore, in a speech Monday, called for an independent investigation of the administration program that he says broke the law by listening in — without warrants — on Americans suspected of talking with terrorists abroad.

Gore called the program, authorized by President Bush, “a threat to the very structure of our government” and charged that the administration acted without congressional authority and made a “direct assault” on a federal court set up to authorize requests to eavesdrop on Americans.

Two new legal challenges
Meanwhile, two civil liberties groups — the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights — filed federal lawsuits Tuesday seeking to block the eavesdropping program, which they called unconstitutional electronic surveillance of American citizens.

McClellan said the Clinton-Gore administration had engaged in warrantless physical searches, and he cited an FBI search of the home of CIA turncoat Aldrich Ames without permission from a judge. He said Clinton’s deputy attorney general, Jamie Gorelick, had testified before Congress that the president had the inherent authority to engage in physical searches without warrants.

“I think his hypocrisy knows no bounds,” McClellan said of Gore.

Attorney general weighs in
Gore said Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should name a special counsel to investigate the program, saying Gonzales had an “obvious conflict of interest” as a member of the Bush Cabinet as well as the nation’s top law enforcement officer.

Gonzales, who has agreed to testify publicly at a Senate hearing on the program, defended the surveillance on cable news talk shows Monday night.

“This program has been reviewed carefully by lawyers at the Department of Justice and other agencies,” Gonzales said on Fox News Channel’s “Hannity & Colmes.” “We firmly believe that this program is perfectly lawful. The president has the legal authority to authorize these kinds of programs.”

On CNN’s “Larry King Live,” Gonzales said Gore’s comments were inconsistent with Clinton administration policy.

“It’s my understanding that during the Clinton administration there was activity regarding physical searches without warrants,” Gonzales said. “I can also say it’s my understanding that the deputy attorney general testified before Congress that the president does have the inherent authority under the Constitution to engage in physical searches without a warrant. And so, those would certainly seem to be inconsistent with what the former vice president was saying today.”

‘Breaking the law’
Gore said there is still much to learn about the domestic surveillance program, but that he already has drawn a conclusion about its legality.

“What we do know about this pervasive wiretapping virtually compels the conclusion that the president of the United States has been breaking the law repeatedly and insistently,” he said.

Bush has pointed to a congressional resolution passed after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, that authorized him to use force in the fight against terrorism as allowing him to order the program.

Gore, however, contended that Bush failed to convince Congress to support a domestic spying program, so he “secretly assumed that power anyway, as if congressional authorization was a useless bother.”

He said the spying program must be considered along with other administration actions as a constitutional power grab by the president. Gore cited imprisoning American citizens without charges in terrorism cases, mistreatment of prisoners — including torture — and seizure of individuals in foreign countries and delivering them to autocratic regimes “infamous for the cruelty of their techniques.”

Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10891443/from/RS.2/)

FORD
01-17-2006, 01:27 PM
Who gives a flying fuck what Scottie the Duck thinks??

Six little ducks
That I once knew
Fat ones, skinny ones,
Fair ones, too
But the one little duck
With the feather on his back
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack
Quack, quack, quack,
Quack, quack, quack
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack.

Down to the river
They would go
Wibble, wobble, wibble, wobble,
To and fro
But the one little duck
With the feather on his back
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack
Quack, quack, quack,
Quack, quack, quack
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack.

Back from the river
They would come
Wibble, wobble, wibble, wobble,
Ho, hum, hum
But the one little duck
With the feather on his back
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack
Quack, quack, quack,
Quack, quack, quack
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack.

Into the water they would dive
Over and under the other five
But the one little duck
With the feather on his back
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack.

Home from the river they would go
Wibble wobble, wibble wobble,
Ho hum hum
But the one little duck
With the feather on his back
He led the others
With a quack, quack, quack.

ELVIS
01-17-2006, 04:04 PM
Who gives a fuck what algore thinks ??

ELVIS
01-17-2006, 04:05 PM
"Flying fuck", that is...

FORD
01-17-2006, 04:36 PM
Read his speech. Or watch it on C-SPAN. I'm sure they'll play it a few more times this week.

Don't ignore the crimes of the BCE any longer, or there will be no hope for this country.

DLR'sCock
01-17-2006, 04:50 PM
It's coming.

blueturk
01-17-2006, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Who gives a fuck what algore thinks ??

Yeah sure. Gore's full of shit. Everything Dubya does is for the good of the Homeland. Fucking sheep.

Hardrock69
01-17-2006, 11:20 PM
As long as Chimpy is in office there is no hope for this country.....

DrMaddVibe
01-18-2006, 06:48 AM
Yeah, retreat to your bunker.

Its gonna be a rainy day with no sunshine...ever again.

Hardrock69
01-18-2006, 09:56 AM
Chimpy is gonna be laughing out of the other side of his face.....

4moreyears
01-18-2006, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
Yeah sure. Gore's full of shit. Everything Dubya does is for the good of the Homeland. Fucking sheep.

Never said that dickwad.

Unchainme
01-18-2006, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by 4morequeers
I want to suck your dickwad.

Euwwwwwwww , FORD I know your for Gay marriage and gay rights but can you keep him off this board :D

UGS
01-19-2006, 11:05 AM
I feel bad for you guys, I really do. You're so fucked. What a raw deal.

FORD
01-19-2006, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by UGS
I feel bad for you guys, I really do. You're so fucked. What a raw deal.

After the poll I saw from Canada yesterday, you guys might be in trouble yourselves.

How the Hell is that neocon Busheep puppet Harper in the lead?

You guys can't let that bastard win. We need to have one sane country on this continent.

UGS
01-19-2006, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by FORD
After the poll I saw from Canada yesterday, you guys might be in trouble yourselves.

How the Hell is that neocon Busheep puppet Harper in the lead?

You guys can't let that bastard win. We need to have one sane country on this continent.

Scary but true. Bush is already getting a hard-on at this idea. He's getting a new best friend soon. Harper will just give the US our softwood lumber. It won't be long til we're in Iraq. Our Afganistan casualties are already piling up.

I'm living in a pretty secure New Democrat Party riding, but I'll probably be voting Green on Monday. The two parties are almost identical.

Angel
01-20-2006, 07:00 PM
The gap is supposed to be narrowing FORD, but I'm afraid there have been far too many scandals with our current government. We can only hope that he wins a minority government and he fucks up in no time.

If he gets in, lets just run away to Tahiti or something and say fuck the rest of the world! ;)

Keep your fingers crossed for Canuck land Monday, FORD. Your neighbour as you currently know very well may no longer exist soon. (And we can kiss our GREAT fucking economy goodbye too!)

ODShowtime
01-20-2006, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
McClellan said the Clinton-Gore administration had engaged in warrantless physical searches, and he cited an FBI search of the home of CIA turncoat Aldrich Ames without permission from a judge. He said Clinton’s deputy attorney general, Jamie Gorelick, had testified before Congress that the president had the inherent authority to engage in physical searches without warrants.


On CNN’s “Larry King Live,” Gonzales said Gore’s comments were inconsistent with Clinton administration policy.

“It’s my understanding that during the Clinton administration there was activity regarding physical searches without warrants,” Gonzales said. “I can also say it’s my understanding that the deputy attorney general testified before Congress that the president does have the inherent authority under the Constitution to engage in physical searches without a warrant. And so, those would certainly seem to be inconsistent with what the former vice president was saying today.”

Do these assholes have Warham writing speaches now?

blueturk
01-20-2006, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Never said that dickwad.

You're thinking it though. BTW, I hope Da Bores have a nice off-season...

Warham
01-20-2006, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
Do these assholes have Warham writing speaches now?

:D

4moreyears
01-23-2006, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Unchainme
Euwwwwwwww , FORD I know your for Gay marriage and gay rights but can you keep him off this board :D

Fucking Homo living in Cleveland. What a hole.