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mads1011
02-15-2006, 05:35 PM
Do you tell the woman that you are about to get involved with that you are married or no? Should you wait until she ask or what if she don't ask. help out a bro, bro's

Jurak
02-15-2006, 05:50 PM
yes.........no.......there's yer help......... :D

blonddgirl777
02-15-2006, 08:32 PM
If you have, at least a little bit of consideration for either one of them...
Honesty would be the way to go...

And that goes for all aspects in life!

Ally_Kat
02-15-2006, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by mads1011
Do you tell the woman that you are about to get involved with that you are married or no? Should you wait until she ask or what if she don't ask. help out a bro, bro's


YES!

And then it would depend on the situation and the girl if the chick you are"getting involved with" if they stay or go.

For some girls if they found out that they were involved with a married guy, they would feel guilty, embarassed, and horrified in themselves.

For some girls, if you are getting divorced then it's not a big problem.

For some girls, they don't care either way.

But you really owe it to the girl to let her know the situation.

And if you aren't seperated or leaving your wife, you owe it to her NOT to go thru with it or just leave her if you want to be with other people, because, personally, I think that's fucked up.

franksters
02-15-2006, 10:43 PM
This is such a dumb question.
Would you like a girl to do that to you dumbass????

Here's your answer....

Nitro Express
02-16-2006, 12:15 PM
You married your wife for a reason, if you want to roam and fuck why did you get married? Lying only adds to your stress and they have a bad way of exploding in your face. Unless you get off on having your wife and mistress hate you at the same time my advice is to bang your wife only. Cheating and dishonesty only ruins your sexlife in the longrun. Some of the people having the best sex are the ones in a good marriage. It's true.

blonddgirl777
02-16-2006, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by franksters
This is such a dumb question.
Would you like a girl to do that to you dumbass????

Here's your answer....

...And remember;
"If you spit in the air... it'll fall right back on your nose"!

blonddgirl777
02-16-2006, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by mads1011
... help out a bro, bro's

If you need "help" with such an issue...
Seems like you didn't quite understand that "Mariage thing" in the first place!

Mr. Vengeance
02-16-2006, 03:16 PM
Don't be a dickhead. That's my advice.

And I'm not married either.

Ally_Kat
02-16-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Some of the people having the best sex are the ones in a good marriage.

And they don't have to worry about the random AIDS

Hardrock69
02-16-2006, 05:38 PM
This is why the divorce rate is so high.

Once upon a time, people got married and stayed that way.

These days though, they ought to have wedding vows where they say "I promise to stay married to you until I find someone else".

:rolleyes:

Jurak
02-16-2006, 09:54 PM
"I promise to stay married to you until I find someone else".



Aint that the truth..... :rolleyes:

HELLVIS666
02-16-2006, 10:37 PM
If you aren't happy with the woman you already have, chances are you aren't fucking her right. If you were, she'd rock your world, and you wouldn't be out sniffing around.

HELLVIS666
02-16-2006, 10:59 PM
Kiss her long and deep like you used to when you first met. Don't just kiss her like she's your grandma, and then give her some half-assed 2 minute go-thru-the-motions fuck before you roll off her and go to sleep. Get your ass cleaned up nice and smelling good, and take her out (like you are plan to do with this other chick). Then, when you get her alone, make out like a couple of teenagers (for a long time). You don't even have to fuck. Sometimes it's kind of cool not to. It keeps things fresh. But, when you do fuck, do it like you mean it. Hit that thing like you may never be able to fuck again. Long and hard shouldn't only be adjectives. They should be verbs too.

Nitro Express
02-17-2006, 03:50 AM
Eve
Originally posted by Hardrock69
This is why the divorce rate is so high.

Once upon a time, people got married and stayed that way.

These days though, they ought to have wedding vows where they say "I promise to stay married to you until I find someone else".

:rolleyes:

No shit. Everyone seems to be looking for the perfect person but never finding them. I never thought I would get married because that was one thing that scared the living shit out of me. But you meet a person that really turns your crank and you end up getting married. I've been married 15 years and never regretted it.

AIDS is no laughing matter. I cringe when I think about all the dolts speading it around. People have seemed to have forgotten or they just don't give a shit but theres some STDS you deffinately don't want because they are incurable. If you are a woman, they can make you steril. Anyone having group sex these days better have their head examined.

bueno bob
02-17-2006, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by HELLVIS666
Kiss her long and deep like you used to when you first met. Don't just kiss her like she's your grandma, and then give her some half-assed 2 minute go-thru-the-motions fuck before you roll off her and go to sleep. Get your ass cleaned up nice and smelling good, and take her out (like you are plan to do with this other chick). Then, when you get her alone, make out like a couple of teenagers (for a long time). You don't even have to fuck. Sometimes it's kind of cool not to. It keeps things fresh. But, when you do fuck, do it like you mean it. Hit that thing like you may never be able to fuck again. Long and hard shouldn't only be adjectives. They should be verbs too.

Well...in theory, it's a nice idea...being on the other side of the fence, I can say with all degrees of certainty that making that happen isn't as easy as it was years and years before.

Many times, the woman gets in a rut and gets bored, too. Many times, the wife DOESN'T want to play "teenagers" and "make out" and do all that crap because, well, they're not teenagers anymore.

I firmly believe that what a woman wants/desires out of a man changes as the years go by. What she wants within the first few years is, of course, to be swept off of her feet by Prince Charming, rode away to his castle after the dragon/ex-boyfriend/ex-husband/whatever has been slain, wined, dined, romanced, etc, and THEN she'll fuck like a banshee.

After a few years go by?

The woman's more interested in the continual commitment, the comforting factor, and the routine. The "safety net" of familiarity, I guess...a mercy poke for five minutes every couple of weeks to keep you from starving and there ya have it.

I've known a bazillion women in my time, married girls and LTR girls along with the single ones - and all the involved ones become the same after, say, 5-7 years have passed. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but overwhelmingly that's been my experience.

I have known guys try DESPERATELY to rekindle a flame that's faded by doing much of what you've described and they've usually either pissed their wife/girlfriend off by acting "foolish" or "childish" or just caused them to become suspicious of what else was "going on behind her back" - and if said guy tries to communicate to her that he's trying to jumpstart the excitement in their relationship, it usually turns into an argument about "Oh, so you're not happy with me now? I have to be like a teenage girl again? Why, you like teenage girls? Tired of me now?" and all that other crap that goes with.

It can lead to a LOT of problems if it doesn't work out, and 9 times out of 10 (my experience), it DOESN'T work out.

Here's the facts:

Bored with your wife? Romance dead? Don't love her anymore.

Don't do her the injustice of cheating on her. And don't try to rekindle the romance unless you're almost completely convinced she's willing to go that route with you, otherwise you'll lead yourself into a world of shit that's not easy to get out of...in fact, it's near impossible.

Just fuckin' leave her. Period. Straight up, no bullshit, tell her "Hey - I'm not feeling this anymore, I don't think you're feeling me anymore, at least, you don't act like it, and I'm finding myself thinking about looking outside of this relationship for what I want, so, we've either got a problem to address here between us somehow or we might as well end it, because you're acting as disinterested in me as I feel towards you. And so...what now?"

Either she'll agree that you both need to shit, or you both need to get off the pot.

If you go the "rekindling" route - THEN, by all means, play "teenagers" again.

If you go your own mutual ways, then you both do so without guilt, without cheating, without remorse, and without creating more problems before the inevitable happened.

What am I getting at?


TALK TO HER.

But don't bullshit her or insult her intelligence.

Friendly advice...for what it's worth...

bueno bob
02-17-2006, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by HELLVIS666
If you aren't happy with the woman you already have, chances are you aren't fucking her right. If you were, she'd rock your world, and you wouldn't be out sniffing around.

I'm sorry, man, but...that's bullshit...you can be a complete porn star, sexual fucking dynamo and after the same woman has been banged silly by you for 10-15 (or more) years, you think she's NOT going to get to the point where all she's interested in is in putting out once a month (or two) just to keep you happy? Bored of you no matter WHAT you do differently?

And NOT willing to try and experiment because she doesn't want to make the effort?

Gotta give women some more credit dude...they FAIL just as much as men do...

bueno bob
02-17-2006, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
You married your wife for a reason, if you want to roam and fuck why did you get married? Lying only adds to your stress and they have a bad way of exploding in your face.

Exactly.

Unless you get off on having your wife and mistress hate you at the same time my advice is to bang your wife only. Cheating and dishonesty only ruins your sexlife in the longrun.

Absolutely. Best to call off the marriage, divorce, and THEN go play.

Some of the people having the best sex are the ones in a good marriage. It's true.

Yes, absolutely. BUT there needs to be a mutual willingness to experiement, try new things...to BE exciting TOGETHER...the man just can't do it all by himself and go on the "I Will Sexually Refresh This Marriage!" approach without a receptive wife to greet him there...I get the feeling that this is sorta what's happening with mads' original post...

bueno bob
02-17-2006, 04:58 AM
Just playing devils advocate here, because I think mads is making a point that's being missed...I think he's looking for something that his wife is not willing or not interested in giving him (or both) and searching for it outside of the marriage.

I get the feeling it's because he's been in a long term (10 years or better) marriage, his wife is in a comfort zone with a ho-hum 2 minute monthly romp, he's bored, he wants to do something exciting again and his wife just wants the companionship without any real effort.

This is my impression, anyway, and I say so because I knew somebody who was just like him...he was the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet, but his wife wanted NOTHING to do with him sexually...he tried REPEATEDLY to re-ignite the passion in his marriage and all it got him was a pissed off wife, wondering what he "felt guilty about" and was "trying to cover up" by acting like a "juvenile" with all the "romancy" stuff.

Problem was, the guy had no prenup and was of VERY well-to-do means, and a divorce would have lost him 50% (or more) of it. He didn't figure that was fair, and he knew she'd never divorce him of her own accord (because she wasn't looking for someone else...she basically just wanted him as a "friend"), so what other option did he have?

He told his wife that he was looking outside of the marriage. Her response?

"Whatever suits you, just remember where you hang your hat at."

So - whenever he approached women, he always informed them about his marriage status, why it wasn't working, and why he was doing what he was doing. End result? The guy got laid like FUCKING CRAZY (I'm talking 9-10 different girls a week, threesomes, whatever) - not because he was particularly convincing, romantic, charming, good looking, or anything else. Most of the girls didn't give a shit about his money, either, because he made no bones about his intent to ditch them after a romp in the hay or two...maybe three days time, maximum.

I guess it's just that there are a LOT of women out there that like playing games like that.

In the end?

Be honest. You might be surprised what you find out, and it's better than the cheating and the guilt.

For all different reasons than what you've been offered so far. I'm not one to choose your morality for you, tell you what's right or wrong, I'll just tell you experiences as I've experienced them or seen them experienced.

So...yeah.

:)

Macu
02-17-2006, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
Well...in theory, it's a nice idea...being on the other side of the fence, I can say with all degrees of certainty that making that happen isn't as easy as it was years and years before.

Many times, the woman gets in a rut and gets bored, too. Many times, the wife DOESN'T want to play "teenagers" and "make out" and do all that crap because, well, they're not teenagers anymore.

I firmly believe that what a woman wants/desires out of a man changes as the years go by. What she wants within the first few years is, of course, to be swept off of her feet by Prince Charming, rode away to his castle after the dragon/ex-boyfriend/ex-husband/whatever has been slain, wined, dined, romanced, etc, and THEN she'll fuck like a banshee.

After a few years go by?

The woman's more interested in the continual commitment, the comforting factor, and the routine. The "safety net" of familiarity, I guess...a mercy poke for five minutes every couple of weeks to keep you from starving and there ya have it.

I've known a bazillion women in my time, married girls and LTR girls along with the single ones - and all the involved ones become the same after, say, 5-7 years have passed. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but overwhelmingly that's been my experience.

I have known guys try DESPERATELY to rekindle a flame that's faded by doing much of what you've described and they've usually either pissed their wife/girlfriend off by acting "foolish" or "childish" or just caused them to become suspicious of what else was "going on behind her back" - and if said guy tries to communicate to her that he's trying to jumpstart the excitement in their relationship, it usually turns into an argument about "Oh, so you're not happy with me now? I have to be like a teenage girl again? Why, you like teenage girls? Tired of me now?" and all that other crap that goes with.

It can lead to a LOT of problems if it doesn't work out, and 9 times out of 10 (my experience), it DOESN'T work out.

Here's the facts:

Bored with your wife? Romance dead? Don't love her anymore.

Don't do her the injustice of cheating on her. And don't try to rekindle the romance unless you're almost completely convinced she's willing to go that route with you, otherwise you'll lead yourself into a world of shit that's not easy to get out of...in fact, it's near impossible.

Just fuckin' leave her. Period. Straight up, no bullshit, tell her "Hey - I'm not feeling this anymore, I don't think you're feeling me anymore, at least, you don't act like it, and I'm finding myself thinking about looking outside of this relationship for what I want, so, we've either got a problem to address here between us somehow or we might as well end it, because you're acting as disinterested in me as I feel towards you. And so...what now?"

Either she'll agree that you both need to shit, or you both need to get off the pot.

If you go the "rekindling" route - THEN, by all means, play "teenagers" again.

If you go your own mutual ways, then you both do so without guilt, without cheating, without remorse, and without creating more problems before the inevitable happened.

What am I getting at?


TALK TO HER.

But don't bullshit her or insult her intelligence.

Friendly advice...for what it's worth...

Wow,Bob!You could be on television.:)

bueno bob
02-17-2006, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by Macu
Wow,Bob!You could be on television.:)

I try to look at things from EVERYBODY'S perspective...not just the "right" one...

Seeing the "Right" and "Wrong" of any relationship is simple, really. Understanding the fine grey area between the two and how that tends to dominate a relationship....well, that takes a little more time.

Macu
02-17-2006, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
I try to look at things from EVERYBODY'S perspective...not just the "right" one...

Seeing the "Right" and "Wrong" of any relationship is simple, really. Understanding the fine grey area between the two and how that tends to dominate a relationship....well, that takes a little more time.

You da man!And who woulda thought the "Lord of Darkness"would be so well versed in matters of the heart?But,in all seriousness,you are spot on.People need to be honest and communicate.Its the most mature,respectful way to treat each other.Stars and votes dont do you justice,Bob.I will now invoke the seldom used "Legend Status"declaration.Legend to you,Bob! :D (note:anyone in disagreement with this can send their complaints to FOAD c/o Macu World Headquarters)

bueno bob
02-17-2006, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by Macu
You da man!And who woulda thought the "Lord of Darkness"would be so well versed in matters of the heart?But,in all seriousness,you are spot on.People need to be honest and communicate.Its the most mature,respectful way to treat each other.Stars and votes dont do you justice,Bob.I will now invoke the seldom used "Legend Status"declaration.Legend to you,Bob! :D (note:anyone in disagreement with this can send their complaints to FOAD c/o Macu World Headquarters)

This is quite the awesome turn of events.

I think we should all go WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and go sailing forthwith.

All in agreement, say "Joe Thunder loves penis".

blonddgirl777
02-17-2006, 08:55 AM
[i]... Be honest. You might be surprised what you find out, and it's better than the cheating and the guilt.

For all different reasons than what you've been offered so far. I'm not one to choose your morality for you, tell you what's right or wrong, I'll just tell you experiences as I've experienced them or seen them experienced.

So...yeah.:) [/B]

I agree almost 100% with all of your above posts Bueno...
BUT;

Madd's question was literally; "Should I be honest or LIE..."?
He asked for advice because he obviously doesn't have that morality issue figured out for himself...

Regardless of other people's deceiving experiences and who's fault it is that there are no more "flame"
in the relationship etc...
Valuing Mariage and comittment is very important for those who chose to get into it.
And getting out of it, should be done with respect and dignity (as much as possible).

To the question asked: "Should I lie?"
The answer is definitely NO...

There are thousands of willing girls out there... Go get'em all if you want but by all means...
Finish what you've started FIRST!

blonddgirl777
02-17-2006, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by Macu
Wow,Bob!You could be on television.:)

Bueno B. is sooooo Hollywood! :D
And that helmet.... well... you already know... ;)



Maybe "mads1011" should try the "helmet/lightsable thing" :p
What do ya think?

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 09:25 AM
most of the time there is alot more to infidelity in a marriage than just rocking someones world. thats just hog shit. if you dont like eachother the sex isnt gonna work for most unless the chick is more like a guy and likes to fuck no matter what.

my advice.....

dump your wife and get a divorce. most woman in general dont know how to please their man and keep him at home not looking for sex else where. woman are very demanding, complicated and IMO expect to much from a man for what they give in return. in my experience woman are very selfish beings and think just because they have a pussy its their way or the highway. they forget to remember that love gets in the way of that when a man puts his foot down.

talk to your wife and tell her the problem. woman are not easy beings to figure out and they expect you to just know everything they are thinking and do whatever needs to be done, right!

I have been with my chick for 17 years. 10 of it married. I still want to bang her like a teenager but for some reason she has turned into an angry, mean hateful person. I finally confronted her about this and she says its nothing I did and doesnt know why shes bad to me. well I wish we had this talk along time ago. the talk finally came out of me telling her I wanted a divorce and no longer wanted to be married to her. she was crushed and her attitude has turned around full circle. I think woman get alot of pressure of being a mom, wife.....etc and dont handle things as well as a man can. men go with the flow and woman strress and dont express those feelings.

my point ?

talk to your wife! dont let it get too far before its too late to fix. I love my wife and would always want to work on it if there is a chance to fix things. woman need alot of support when they grow and they do change alot through life. men not so much. its too bad that it took the threat of leaving and a divorce to talk. but she is not a talker and when I try she ignores. some woman like to talk. my woman does not and it seemed only a threat opened her eyes. we did alot of talking and worked things out to get back to the way we use to be.

guys the grass isnt greener on the other side. just because another woman wants to fuck your brains out doesnt mean later on she wont want the same things as your wife and change into the same woman she became. if you love your wife talk to her before its too late. honesty is the best policy with woman and youd be suprised how understanding they can be when your totally honest. even if its bad they still react better to honesty than being lied to!

woman are not easy to live and deal with on a daily basis. nor some men I suppose but I have alot of friends who complain the same as I do. she wont give sex, shes demanding and mean and the sweetness has totally disappeared from the girl who once stole your heart and was the sweetest thing on earth. sometimes woman just need to be reminded and reassured. its not a fluke that married men all have the same story. not all men are angels either but in my experience I have alot of friends who do everything right to only be denied , rejected and yelled at for no reason. sometimes a man has to be a man and put his foot down as some controlling woman only respond to that.

I will say I know alot more controlling , mean woman in marriages than I know woman who are just plain sweet and married. its rare. something about getting married and having kids changes a woman completely and they forget why they picked the guy they were with in the first place.

I dont think alot of woman know how good they have it at home till someone opens there eyes. woman expect too much from men. not life but men.

my look on it is if a unless there are some serious problems in a relationship.... men dont usually stray unless they are neglected at home. men are built to want sex all the time. if you dont keep your man home with your sex he will find it else where. why woman cry after this happens I dont know cause its not just about the man staying faithful its about the woman giving the man a reason to stay home, not stray or look else where. men dont need much! - love, sex beer and food. :)

now I am not saying men are innocent but where I live and the friends I have who are all married its the same story. mean wife who doesnt put out. woman get away from why they wanted this man so badly in the first place.

talk to your wife. tell her how you feel. if you two need to divorce great. atleast you can look at yourself in the mirror and not feel like a dirt bag and know you tried first instead of cheated first. if you work it out that even better. for most marriages its all about communicating. I finally figured that out and now know sometimes it takes more drastic meassures to get a woman to talk. some dont and some have a hard time expressing their feelings. believe it or not.

dont be a scum bag. control the dick (as hard as that is to do) talk to your wife first and decide if you need a divorce. after the divorce your free to fuck whoever you want. try and remember why you got married in the first place. I find it hard to beleive any man who asked a woman to get married and did so didnt love that woman alot and maybe forgot how special that relationship was to begin with to ask her to marry you.

you took vows. work on it first. if it dont work than divorce and fuck all you want. no reason to cheat behind someones back when you can fix the problem one way or another.

to all you woman out there. try and not forget why you picked us to begin with. you cant expect a man not to think about cheating if your not giving him a reason to stay at home. it takes two to tango as they say! just because you have a pussy doesnt mean you shouldnt be equal with your partner. dont use sex as a weapon.

Sarge's Little Helper
02-17-2006, 09:25 AM
most of the time there is alot more to infidelity in a marriage than just rocking someones world. thats just hog shit. if you dont like eachother the sex isnt gonna work for most unless the chick is more like a guy and likes to fuck no matter what.

my advice.....

dump your wife and get a divorce. most woman in general dont know how to please their man and keep him at home not looking for sex else where. woman are very demanding, complicated and IMO expect to much from a man for what they give in return. in my experience woman are very selfish beings and think just because they have a pussy its their way or the highway. they forget to remember that love gets in the way of that when a man puts his foot down.

talk to your wife and tell her the problem. woman are not easy beings to figure out and they expect you to just know everything they are thinking and do whatever needs to be done, right!

I have been with my chick for 17 years. 10 of it married. I still want to bang her like a teenager but for some reason she has turned into an angry, mean hateful person. I finally confronted her about this and she says its nothing I did and doesnt know why shes bad to me. well I wish we had this talk along time ago. the talk finally came out of me telling her I wanted a divorce and no longer wanted to be married to her. she was crushed and her attitude has turned around full circle. I think woman get alot of pressure of being a mom, wife.....etc and dont handle things as well as a man can. men go with the flow and woman strress and dont express those feelings.

my point ?

talk to your wife! dont let it get too far before its too late to fix. I love my wife and would always want to work on it if there is a chance to fix things. woman need alot of support when they grow and they do change alot through life. men not so much. its too bad that it took the threat of leaving and a divorce to talk. but she is not a talker and when I try she ignores. some woman like to talk. my woman does not and it seemed only a threat opened her eyes. we did alot of talking and worked things out to get back to the way we use to be.

guys the grass isnt greener on the other side. just because another woman wants to fuck your brains out doesnt mean later on she wont want the same things as your wife and change into the same woman she became. if you love your wife talk to her before its too late. honesty is the best policy with woman and youd be suprised how understanding they can be when your totally honest. even if its bad they still react better to honesty than being lied to!

woman are not easy to live and eal with on a daily basis. nor some men I suppose but I have alot of friends who complain the same as I do. she wont give sex, shes demanding and mean and the seetness has totally disappeared from the girl who once stole your heart and was the sweetest thing on earth. sometimes woman just need to be reminded and reassured. its not a fluke that married men all have the same story. not all men are angels either but in my experience I have alot of friends who do everything right to only be denied , rejected and yelled at for no reason. sometimes a man has to be a man and put his foot down as some controlling woman only respond to that.

I will say I know alot more controlling , mean woman in marriages than I know woman who are just plain sweet and married. its rare. something about getting married and having kids changes a woman completely and they forget why they picked the guy they were with in the first place.

I dont think alot of woman know how good they have it at home till someone opens there eyes. woman expect too much from men. not life but men.

my look on it is if a unless there are some serious problems in a relationship.... men dont usually stray unless they are neglected at home. men are built to want sex all the time. if you dont keep your man home with your sex he will find it else where. why woman cry after this happens I dont know cause its not just about the man staying faithful its about the woman giving the man a reason to stay home, not stray or look else where. men dont need much! - love, sex beer and food. :)

now I am not saying men are innocent but where I live and the friends I have who are all married its the same story. mean wife who doesnt put out. woman get away from why they wanted this man so badly in the first place.

talk to your wife. tell her how you feel. if you two need to divorce great. atleast you can look at yourself in the mirror and not feel like a dirt bag and know you tried first instead of cheated first. if you work it out that even better. for most marriages its all about communicating. I finally figured that out and now know sometimes it takes more drastic meassures to get a woman to talk. some dont and some have a hard time expressing their feelings. believe it or not.

dont be a scum bag. control the dick (as hard as that is to do) talk to your wife first and decide if you need a divorce. after the divorce your free to fuck whoever you want. try and remember why you got married in the first place. I find it hard to beleive any man who asked a woman to get married and did so didnt love that woman alot and maybe forgot how special that relationship was to begin with to ask her to marry you.

you took vows. work on it first. if it dont work than divorce and fuck all you want. no reason to cheat behind someones back when you can fix the problem one way or another.

to all you woman out there. try and not forget why you picked us to begin with. you cant expect a man not to think about cheating if your not giving him a reason to stay at home. it takes two to tango as they say! just because you have a pussy doesnt mean you shouldnt be equal with your partner. dont use sex as a weapon.

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 09:29 AM
I wouldnt expect anything less from a pimp!

pimp on man! :)

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by HELLVIS666
If you aren't happy with the woman you already have, chances are you aren't fucking her right. If you were, she'd rock your world, and you wouldn't be out sniffing around.


more to it than that most of the time bro.... sorry I dont agree. woman are not built like men. vice versa either.

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by HELLVIS666
Kiss her long and deep like you used to when you first met. Don't just kiss her like she's your grandma, and then give her some half-assed 2 minute go-thru-the-motions fuck before you roll off her and go to sleep. Get your ass cleaned up nice and smelling good, and take her out (like you are plan to do with this other chick). Then, when you get her alone, make out like a couple of teenagers (for a long time). You don't even have to fuck. Sometimes it's kind of cool not to. It keeps things fresh. But, when you do fuck, do it like you mean it. Hit that thing like you may never be able to fuck again. Long and hard shouldn't only be adjectives. They should be verbs too.


agin its not that easy most of the time. if a woman isnt into it its more than just how you kiss her or how much you take her out. that helps but thats not the root of the problem most of the time.

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
Well...in theory, it's a nice idea...being on the other side of the fence, I can say with all degrees of certainty that making that happen isn't as easy as it was years and years before.

Many times, the woman gets in a rut and gets bored, too. Many times, the wife DOESN'T want to play "teenagers" and "make out" and do all that crap because, well, they're not teenagers anymore.

I firmly believe that what a woman wants/desires out of a man changes as the years go by. What she wants within the first few years is, of course, to be swept off of her feet by Prince Charming, rode away to his castle after the dragon/ex-boyfriend/ex-husband/whatever has been slain, wined, dined, romanced, etc, and THEN she'll fuck like a banshee.

After a few years go by?

The woman's more interested in the continual commitment, the comforting factor, and the routine. The "safety net" of familiarity, I guess...a mercy poke for five minutes every couple of weeks to keep you from starving and there ya have it.

I've known a bazillion women in my time, married girls and LTR girls along with the single ones - and all the involved ones become the same after, say, 5-7 years have passed. Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, but overwhelmingly that's been my experience.

I have known guys try DESPERATELY to rekindle a flame that's faded by doing much of what you've described and they've usually either pissed their wife/girlfriend off by acting "foolish" or "childish" or just caused them to become suspicious of what else was "going on behind her back" - and if said guy tries to communicate to her that he's trying to jumpstart the excitement in their relationship, it usually turns into an argument about "Oh, so you're not happy with me now? I have to be like a teenage girl again? Why, you like teenage girls? Tired of me now?" and all that other crap that goes with.

It can lead to a LOT of problems if it doesn't work out, and 9 times out of 10 (my experience), it DOESN'T work out.

Here's the facts:

Bored with your wife? Romance dead? Don't love her anymore.

Don't do her the injustice of cheating on her. And don't try to rekindle the romance unless you're almost completely convinced she's willing to go that route with you, otherwise you'll lead yourself into a world of shit that's not easy to get out of...in fact, it's near impossible.

Just fuckin' leave her. Period. Straight up, no bullshit, tell her "Hey - I'm not feeling this anymore, I don't think you're feeling me anymore, at least, you don't act like it, and I'm finding myself thinking about looking outside of this relationship for what I want, so, we've either got a problem to address here between us somehow or we might as well end it, because you're acting as disinterested in me as I feel towards you. And so...what now?"

Either she'll agree that you both need to shit, or you both need to get off the pot.

If you go the "rekindling" route - THEN, by all means, play "teenagers" again.

If you go your own mutual ways, then you both do so without guilt, without cheating, without remorse, and without creating more problems before the inevitable happened.

What am I getting at?


TALK TO HER.

But don't bullshit her or insult her intelligence.

Friendly advice...for what it's worth...


I knew I like you bob! right on!

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
I'm sorry, man, but...that's bullshit...you can be a complete porn star, sexual fucking dynamo and after the same woman has been banged silly by you for 10-15 (or more) years, you think she's NOT going to get to the point where all she's interested in is in putting out once a month (or two) just to keep you happy? Bored of you no matter WHAT you do differently?

And NOT willing to try and experiment because she doesn't want to make the effort?

Gotta give women some more credit dude...they FAIL just as much as men do...


again right on!

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
Just playing devils advocate here, because I think mads is making a point that's being missed...I think he's looking for something that his wife is not willing or not interested in giving him (or both) and searching for it outside of the marriage.

I get the feeling it's because he's been in a long term (10 years or better) marriage, his wife is in a comfort zone with a ho-hum 2 minute monthly romp, he's bored, he wants to do something exciting again and his wife just wants the companionship without any real effort.

This is my impression, anyway, and I say so because I knew somebody who was just like him...he was the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet, but his wife wanted NOTHING to do with him sexually...he tried REPEATEDLY to re-ignite the passion in his marriage and all it got him was a pissed off wife, wondering what he "felt guilty about" and was "trying to cover up" by acting like a "juvenile" with all the "romancy" stuff.

Problem was, the guy had no prenup and was of VERY well-to-do means, and a divorce would have lost him 50% (or more) of it. He didn't figure that was fair, and he knew she'd never divorce him of her own accord (because she wasn't looking for someone else...she basically just wanted him as a "friend"), so what other option did he have?

He told his wife that he was looking outside of the marriage. Her response?

"Whatever suits you, just remember where you hang your hat at."

So - whenever he approached women, he always informed them about his marriage status, why it wasn't working, and why he was doing what he was doing. End result? The guy got laid like FUCKING CRAZY (I'm talking 9-10 different girls a week, threesomes, whatever) - not because he was particularly convincing, romantic, charming, good looking, or anything else. Most of the girls didn't give a shit about his money, either, because he made no bones about his intent to ditch them after a romp in the hay or two...maybe three days time, maximum.

I guess it's just that there are a LOT of women out there that like playing games like that.

In the end?

Be honest. You might be surprised what you find out, and it's better than the cheating and the guilt.

For all different reasons than what you've been offered so far. I'm not one to choose your morality for you, tell you what's right or wrong, I'll just tell you experiences as I've experienced them or seen them experienced.

So...yeah.

:)


bob is on a roll! good afvice guys for you with a troubled marriage. re-read this stuff.

Ally_Kat
02-17-2006, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by bru87tr
in my experience woman are very selfish beings and think just because they have a pussy its their way or the highway.

What kind of group did you hang out with?! Because there are lots of women who are the other extreme, too -- will give and give for their men and get hurt because they're just another pussy. Men can be very selfish, too.

Ally_Kat
02-17-2006, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
I get the feeling it's because he's been in a long term (10 years or better) marriage, his wife is in a comfort zone with a ho-hum 2 minute monthly romp, he's bored, he wants to do something exciting again and his wife just wants the companionship without any real effort.


Do you know mads personally, bob? Because I get a totally different feeling based on that he's tried to pick chicks up from the board. I get the impression that he's had a lot of one nighters and now there's a lasting relationship forming and he's in uncharted waters. Lonk blondie said, he asked us if he should lie and cover up. I really don't see the good guy in this situation. I'm trying to, and I can't. I guess because I went out with a guy many moons ago who was a man-slut.

jhale667
02-17-2006, 11:00 AM
We prefer the term "he-whore", thank you. :D I keed!

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 11:00 AM
ally if you re-read my post I did say men are not innocent either. I was just pointing out what I see in my circle of freinds. I am sure its different based on where you live and the type of people you are around.

Jamocha Joe
02-17-2006, 11:16 AM
Anybody remember a similar question by JCOOK? (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17985)

Mr. Vengeance
02-17-2006, 11:26 AM
Look if the guy's that unhappy because his wife won't do this or that, fine. Get a divorce. But to be a scumbag and come on here asking if he should or shouldn't tell her, and then later in the thread talk about fucking being honest??? Maybe I'm missing something...

I've got no fucking love life most of the time. I had something recently that I thought was nice and then one day, after about 6 months, she stopped returning calls, stopped e-mailing. I have no idea why. No closure. And before that, woman after woman being cunty, and out of the blue screwing around on me, and then acting as if it's MY fault. Like I drove her to being a cunt. And the classic, "It's not you, it's me" line. Bullshit. Just say it- You found someone better looking with more money. Or just plain better looking with a 10 inch cock. I've actually had chicks leave me for a guy with no damn job!

Why am I ranting? Because I know the pain this fucking shit causes. You sit there wondering what you did wrong, and how long the other person has been fucking someone else. How many times you were with them right after they came from the other person.....So I have no fucking patience for someone who wants my advice on how to deal with cheating on their significant other...

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 11:35 AM
thing is a 10 inch cock only goes so far. most woman will tell you that.

for one even the smallest cock can hit a G spot if both work at it and the girl doesnt lay there like drift wood... we guy know there are alot of woman like that who feel like they need to do nothing but lay there. plus there are so many things you can do to get a chick off I really feel like a 10 inch cock is not so important. as long as its average and thick enough your ok....lol :)

I dont like that woman seem to really like money more than the man himself or who he is . there are alot of gold diggers out there.


I feel you bro!

Mr. Vengeance
02-17-2006, 11:44 AM
What kills me is that I've never had bedroom problems. And I couldn't be a nicer guy. But even THAT I've heard. One bitch had the nerve to tell me I'm too nice and the cliched "nice guy's finish last"..WTF????? Too nice? How can you be too nice? What I have to slap you around and get drunk to be your type..It's not bad enough to dump someone but to give them a bullshit line like that?

Fuck..don't get me started on these women.

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 11:52 AM
dude nice guys do finish last. a word of advice.

sometimes you have to be an asshole or be the man to get some respect from some woman. woman like a nice guy but with a little bit O bad boy in them too. if your too nice and not a challenge and a walking mat your gonna get dumped or walked on.

I had a chick when I was young I went out with before. I was too nice to her. so one day my friend said be an ass. I tested this.

one day instead of asking her to get me a drink please while she as up.... BTW she always told me to get it myself...... one day I tried a different approach. I said GET me a drink! well without thinking she did. I did it the next night and on her way to the fridge she stopped and asked why is she getting me a drink that I should get it myself. well I said just do it! she did.

my point is some woman are controlling. sometimes you have to take control and sometimes woman like that!

dont be the nice guy. nice guys suck. you can be nice but still give her a challenge. dont be so easy. chicks like a challenge.


ladies please notice my word SOME that I use before you flame. :)

Mr. Vengeance
02-17-2006, 12:07 PM
I'm not a doormat. I'm just not an asshole. Not my nature to be that way. Frankly I find it to be an excuse. They want the hot guy, with the body and they don't have any valid excuse, and they don't want to be truthful and look like a bitch, so the best option is to blame you! They can't honestly say that the guy is a jerk or asshole, because he isn't, so they have to go to the other extreme- "You're TOO nice." By the way, men are plenty guilty of this shit too....

mewisemagic
02-17-2006, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by HELLVIS666
Kiss her long and deep like you used to when you first met. Don't just kiss her like she's your grandma, and then give her some half-assed 2 minute go-thru-the-motions fuck before you roll off her and go to sleep. Get your ass cleaned up nice and smelling good, and take her out (like you are plan to do with this other chick). Then, when you get her alone, make out like a couple of teenagers (for a long time). You don't even have to fuck. Sometimes it's kind of cool not to. It keeps things fresh. But, when you do fuck, do it like you mean it. Hit that thing like you may never be able to fuck again. Long and hard shouldn't only be adjectives. They should be verbs too. Great Post and Great Advice!!! :D

bueno bob
02-17-2006, 02:54 PM
Lot of interesting viewpoints.

Actually, Ally, I don't know him personally...something just kinda resonated in me while I was reading the post and I thought about that guy I knew...which was the reason I started taking on what I thought would probably be a VERY unpopular point of view on the subject...

As it turns out, I again kick ass. Go figure ;)

Macu
02-17-2006, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by bueno bob
This is quite the awesome turn of events.

I think we should all go WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and go sailing forthwith.

All in agreement, say "Joe Thunder loves penis".

Joe Thunder loves penis!

Macu
02-17-2006, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777




Maybe "mads1011" should try the "helmet/lightsable thing" :p
What do ya think?

Who me?

HELLVIS666
02-17-2006, 04:57 PM
bueno bob you make some great points. I just think that unless you know it's over, You need to look at yourself first, and see if you have become boring, or have begun to take your mate for granted. If you have, then try my previously posted advice. Then, if things don't get any better, you have to talk about it. And if you already know it's over, then end it. I once saw a rabbit in the road that a car had run over, completely crushing its lower abdomen and hind legs. It was just writhing in agony, so I stomped on it's head and ended it's pain. Know what I mean. So again I say, Fuck like bunnies, or kill the rabbit!

bru87tr
02-17-2006, 04:59 PM
lol... that is really funny Hell! hahahahahaha love that one!

bueno bob
02-18-2006, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by HELLVIS666
bueno bob you make some great points. I just think that unless you know it's over, You need to look at yourself first, and see if you have become boring, or have begun to take your mate for granted. If you have, then try my previously posted advice. Then, if things don't get any better, you have to talk about it. And if you already know it's over, then end it. I once saw a rabbit in the road that a car had run over, completely crushing its lower abdomen and hind legs. It was just writhing in agony, so I stomped on it's head and ended it's pain. Know what I mean. So again I say, Fuck like bunnies, or kill the rabbit!

:D

Awesome take. Thanks.

scottydabodi
02-22-2006, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by mads1011
Do you tell the woman that you are about to get involved with that you are married or no? Should you wait until she ask or what if she don't ask. help out a bro, bro's

Here's something to consider, don't fucking cheat.

If you're so unhappy with your partner that you gotta cheat, get a fucking divorce already. Maybe John Wayne Bobbitt wasn't a good enough example to you?

Besides, how fucking DISRESPECTFUL can you be to the woman you're married to, huh? That's just a TOOL thing to do. You ever been cheated on? How does it feel? Lousy. That's how it feels. You're a fool for fuckin' around. You get what you deserve.

PS -Scotty the Body DOES NOT CHEAT, OR CONDONE CHEATING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. CHEATING IS FOR ASSHOLES, AND IDIOTS.

PSS -I am not married either, but it seems as though I understand it better than some of the people who ARE fucking married...

blonddgirl777
02-22-2006, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by scottydabodi
...PS -Scotty the Body DOES NOT CHEAT, OR CONDONE CHEATING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. CHEATING IS FOR ASSHOLES, AND IDIOTS....

Well said!

Cheating is lying...
Honesty is a very important quality and is crutial, in a relationship... as well as in life in general!

blonddgirl777
02-22-2006, 09:01 AM
And what about those girls that will have sex with a married (or committed) man?
I.M.O., they are bitches too... I mean "find your own peice of meat"! :rolleyes:

Especially if the guy leaves his wife for them...
Have they heard of "If they'll do it WITH you... they'll do it TO you"???

Unfortunately, it's a "pattern" in many guy's cases...

Vinnie Velvet
02-22-2006, 05:10 PM
A friend of mine once told me that a man performing oral sex on another woman wasn't necessarily cheating because there wasn't any fucking, technically speaking.

:D

Seriously though, cheating and lying is NEVER the way to go. Respect the woman you married and try to get things back on track.

If things don't get back on track, seperate, do the divorce thing, but just be honest with the woman.

Having been cheated on by an ex-girlfriend, its not a nice feeling.(sometime I felt like why the fuck was I being so committed to the one person and she wasn't?).

Anyhow, honesty is the key.

And COMMUNICATION.

blonddgirl777
02-22-2006, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
A friend of mine once told me that a man performing oral sex on another woman wasn't necessarily cheating because there wasn't any fucking, technically speaking....

Ask your friend if having his girlfriend (or wife) giving a blow job to another man is "necessarily cheating"???

What an idiot! :rolleyes:
(not you... your friend).

bueno bob
02-23-2006, 03:12 AM
No woman would DARE to cheat on me.

Not when I have this "Force Choke" thing so readily available, anyway.

:)

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
No woman would DARE to cheat on me.

Not when I have this "Force Choke" thing so readily available, anyway.

:)

"Force Choke"...
Wazzat???

...Hope it ain't what I think :confused:

Millermoos
02-23-2006, 09:09 AM
Interesting view points.
How do you define someone who has a long term patner but he is not married? On one way you are crazy about them but you know they have a patner, what type of relationship do they have only God knows !! But you are still crazy about him. On one side you can say stay away or on the other he is not married and maybe he is fed up.
M.

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Millermoos
Interesting view points.
How do you define someone who has a long term patner but he is not married? On one way you are crazy about them but you know they have a patner, what type of relationship do they have only God knows !! But you are still crazy about him. On one side you can say stay away or on the other he is not married and maybe he is fed up.
M.

Not only God knows...
That's why COMMUNICATION is the key...

The 2 persons involved in the relationship can certainly determine where they're at and what type of relationship they have...
And if one is fed up, it is up to him/her to make it clear for themselves first and then, to others...

It is not up to a 3rd. party to jump in an move things around!
If you think that "maybe" he is fed up... then wait until it's clear that he is and until he decides to make the move...

That's what respect is all about!

Vinnie Velvet
02-23-2006, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Ask your friend if having his girlfriend (or wife) giving a blow job to another man is "necessarily cheating"???

What an idiot! :rolleyes:
(not you... your friend).

I know, I know.

Apparently, he's still married to the same woman for the past 8 years, so something is working.

:)

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
I know, I know.

Apparently, he's still married to the same woman for the past 8 years, so something is working.

:)

Maybe his wife is the Godess of B.J.'s but tastes like hell :confused:
L.O.L.
EEeeeewwww....

Jimmy Jingles
02-23-2006, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
"Force Choke"...
Wazzat???

...Hope it ain't what I think :confused:


I just got what you're talking about....BWHAHAHAHA!


Some women like the 'force choke', and to be slapped while doing it.

So I've heard....;)

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy Jingles
I just got what you're talking about....BWHAHAHAHA!


Some women like the 'force choke', and to be slapped while doing it.

So I've heard....;)

Getting slapped on the booty (while doing it) is cool.... if I've been a "bad girl" :p

But;

"Force Choke" :confused:
NO WAY... :mad:
I can perform a B.J. without "help"...

Ever heard of "Cock Bite"???

If "force choke" means the neck strangulation thing... well... that sure ain't for me!

Jimmy Jingles
02-23-2006, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Getting slapped on the booty (while doing it) is cool.... if I've been a "bad girl" :p

But;

"Force Choke" :confused:
NO WAY... :mad:
I can perform a B.J. without "help"...

Ever heard of "Cock Bite"???

If "force choke" means the neck strangulation thing... well... that sure ain't for me!



Cock Bite???

OOUUCCHHH!!!!!!!


I am not talking about strangling a girl’s neck...that is horrible and wrong.

What I am talking about is that some girls (again, so I've heard) like for a guy to shove his cock all the way to the back of her throat, thereby causing a mild gagging reflex.

And as far as the whole spanking thing goes...well...that's for another thread.:D

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy Jingles
... some girls (again, so I've heard) like for a guy to shove his cock all the way to the back of her throat, thereby causing a mild gagging reflex....

Then I guess "some girls" (so I've heard) :p , like to "Force Choke" themselves... I prefer the word "Challenge"!
I just can't stand the pony tail grabbing, nose pinching etc...

I vote for the "put your hands in the air, like you don't care" and... ENJOY! :D

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 11:43 AM
As I wrote previously, in another thread...
All that Rocco Siffredi does, gross me out and makes me mad!
He is such an abusive bastard :mad:

Jimmy Jingles
02-23-2006, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
As I wrote previously, in another thread...
All that Rocco Siffredi does, gross me out and makes me mad!
He is such an abusive bastard :mad:


Yes...Rocco is quite the freak.

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
No woman would DARE to cheat on me.

Not when I have this "Force Choke" thing so readily available, anyway.

:)

What Bueno Bob means is that when he grabs a girl to show her that he cares...
his super human forces just "choke" her... with a BIG HUG!

...Right Bueno? :D

Vinnie Velvet
02-23-2006, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Maybe his wife is the Godess of B.J.'s but tastes like hell :confused:
L.O.L.
EEeeeewwww....

Not sure if she's in on his defintion of "cheating", so I'd imagine he's lapping up a lot of pussy without her even knowing.

Which is of course wrong.

The cheating part, that is.

:D

Vinnie Velvet
02-23-2006, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
What Bueno Bob means is that when he grabs a girl to show her that he cares...
his super human forces just "choke" her... with a BIG HUG!

...Right Bueno? :D

Or, using the force, he can make his dick hard for as long as he wants.

You don't know the POWER of the dark side!

:D

thome
02-23-2006, 01:11 PM
The force choke if you watched any Star Wars, is Vader, could cause
a persons air way to become constricted mearly by thinking it.
-willing it- Use the force, the power of thought.

Bob would never do this he would however -Will -them fine girl next door babes to play doctor in the Death Star janitor closet...

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
...You don't know the POWER of the dark side!...:D

Hoooo, dear!

I only LOOK like an angel... :D

Vinnie Velvet
02-23-2006, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Hoooo, dear!

I only LOOK like an angel... :D

;)

..be gentle.

Take 'Em
02-23-2006, 08:44 PM
There is no need for the "forced choke."

The grip on your gal should be "firm, yet reassuring."

You wanna get those eyes to look up at you........

That's on hell of a turn on..

blonddgirl777
02-23-2006, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Takeem5
You wanna get those eyes to look up at you........

:o :rolleyes: :D HHhhaaaaaa.....

If not, she could be fantisizing about some other guy!!! :eek:

Millermoos
02-24-2006, 08:03 AM
then wait until it's clear that he is and until he decides to make the move...

That's what respect is all about!

I do agree with this on a rational level but the point I was trying to make is that when hormones or love are in the way one is not really using the rational side of their brain it's easy to say do this or that when you are not involved emotionally sexually with someone. How many times have you been with someone and long after you have split, or gone through a divorce from that person you said: shit did I really go out with that person for so long?


Millermoos

Take 'Em
02-24-2006, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
:o :rolleyes: :D HHhhaaaaaa.....

If not, she could be fantisizing about some other guy!!! :eek:


Which I am sure, given the position in description,would not even remotely make my momentary "priority list."

Main brain is in the "off" position at that point and another part of the anatomy is at the wheel..;)

blonddgirl777
02-25-2006, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by Takeem5
...Main brain is in the "off" position at that point and another part of the anatomy is at the wheel..;)

Is there ever such a thing as "main brain" being ON, for men???
L.O.L.... I had to jump on that occasion! :p

bueno bob
02-25-2006, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
........force choke confusion.........

In Episodes IV-VI of the Star Wars saga (AKA the Original Trilogy, or OT for short), one of Vader's biggest tools he used was the technique of the 'force choke' - essentially, he would extend his hand and use his thumb and forefinger to make a little squeezing gesture in a person's direction whenever that person (a subordinate) pissed him off (although he didn't have to use his hand at all and once did a 'force choke' without using his hands at all; the fingers pinching at a person was essentially an affectation...more or less he did it as a way to focus his energy better, I suppose).

Anyway, the affected target would have his airway cut off and be unable to draw in any air to his lungs. Vader used this two different ways - 1) in which to get your attention and make you keep your damn mouth shut (in the Death Star meeting room in episode IV, for example) and 2) to just kill you outright for fucking something up (several times in episode V).

Anyway, that explains that.

As far as me CHOKING a woman in person? Oh, no...not even playing...roughing it up in bed is all fine and dandy, but I'm not into S&M shit...not at all...

Vinnie Velvet
02-25-2006, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by bueno bob
In Episodes IV-VI of the Star Wars saga (AKA the Original Trilogy, or OT for short), one of Vader's biggest tools he used was the technique of the 'force choke' - essentially, he would extend his hand and use his thumb and forefinger to make a little squeezing gesture in a person's direction whenever that person (a subordinate) pissed him off (although he didn't have to use his hand at all and once did a 'force choke' without using his hands at all; the fingers pinching at a person was essentially an affectation...more or less he did it as a way to focus his energy better, I suppose).

Anyway, the affected target would have his airway cut off and be unable to draw in any air to his lungs. Vader used this two different ways - 1) in which to get your attention and make you keep your damn mouth shut (in the Death Star meeting room in episode IV, for example) and 2) to just kill you outright for fucking something up (several times in episode V).

Anyway, that explains that.

As far as me CHOKING a woman in person? Oh, no...not even playing...roughing it up in bed is all fine and dandy, but I'm not into S&M shit...not at all...

Let's not forget his very FIRST force choke....on his own fucking wife!! (Episode III).

bueno bob
02-25-2006, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Let's not forget his very FIRST force choke....on his own fucking wife!! (Episode III).

That bitch lead Obi Wan right to me. She betrayed me. And therefore she had it coming!

:mad:

bueno bob
02-25-2006, 02:10 PM
Quite alright, though. For being dead, she's actually looking fairly healthy these days.

:)

bueno bob
02-25-2006, 02:12 PM
Case in point...

http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/img/pto_BTS_press_01.jpg

Vinnie Velvet
02-25-2006, 02:21 PM
Hmmm...yes...VERY healthy.


.............................. ... .. .

oops, sorry to fantasize about your woman like that Darth....



I WANNA FUCK HER!!!



Shit, man, sorry again for that...didn't really mean it...I


I WANT HER ASS NOW!!!!



Aww shit, fuck man, jeez...my apologies for these sudden outbursts.

...going to leave this thread now........quietly....

bru87tr
02-25-2006, 05:03 PM
shes a fucking skank with no tits and no shape. nothing attractive about her. maybe if she ate some food and gained a few pounds id change my mind.

what is it with chick today and the skeleton look ? no shape! sorry I need something to grab and smack around. not bone sticking in my hand when I go for it.

I'll take Liea anyday over her.

bueno bob
02-25-2006, 08:37 PM
I don't know...I think she's fine, myself. There are a lot worse to choose from among the skeleton crew for sure...

blonddgirl777
02-27-2006, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
... the skeleton crew...

L.O.L....
You would be surprised how many skeletons there are, in "the crew"... when you actually see them in person!

Angelina Jolie IS a real skeleton...

bru87tr
02-27-2006, 10:18 AM
jolie is one of the ugliest chicks I have ever seen. with makeup she might be ok but without, dang she is super skank. wouldnt want to wake up mext to that in the morning.


chick are really obsesses these days with being skinny. they take it too far though.


what happened to shapely woman ? plus you start losing too much weight there go the boobs. alot of chicks are missing it in that area today. not to mention no hips or ass either.

blonddgirl777
02-27-2006, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by bru87tr
...what happened to shapely woman ? plus you start losing too much weight there go the boobs. alot of chicks are missing it in that area today. not to mention no hips or ass either.

I said it and I'll say it again;

Lots of women (especially teenagers) feel the "pressure" glamourized in Fashion magazines...
All those "miracle diets", "loose your booty before summer" articles are contributing to anorexia or eating disorders, like bulimia.

If girls would only understand that they don't need to go out of their ways to be skin & bones :rolleyes:
(Men don't like that anyway!)
Just taking care of themselves (eating right, exercising etc...) and accepting that not everyone has to fall in the same category, bodywise.

Personally, I've always been pretty thin so I exercise to stay that way.
If I start exagerating with the cardio. exercises and eat poorly... I lose the T&A and that is a turn off for my husband (he will never tell, but I know it).

Men just like to grab 'something"! :p

Lloyd Anger
02-27-2006, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by mads1011
Do you tell the woman that you are about to get involved with that you are married or no? Should you wait until she ask or what if she don't ask. help out a bro, bro's

Man, your fucking up brother. Liyin' and cheatin' on your wife NEVER leads to anything good. I'm not gonna lay any morality shit on ya. Your a big boy. But if you don't straiten this shit out, your gonna be livin' in a van down by the river 'cause she's gonna take everything you worked for.

My advice to you is HOOKERS. They have only one purpose in life.
Good luck and I hope your wife don't hit you over the head with a frying pan.

And keep us all posted on your adventures with the sluts.

blonddgirl777
02-27-2006, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Lloyd Anger
... I hope your wife don't hit you over the head with a frying pan....

I hope she does...

Cheating, weather with a prostitute (wich B.T.W. happen to be women to) or with the queen of "good girls"
is still CHEATING!

If your wife (or girlfriend) has to pay to get sex behind your back, will you consider it O.K. :confused:

Lloyd Anger... seems like you would diserve the frying pan!
L.O.L. (I am just trying to imagine the picture...)

bru87tr
02-27-2006, 02:43 PM
woman dont deserved to be cheated on no matter what, but alot deserved to be divorced! lol

blonddgirl777
02-27-2006, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by bru87tr
woman dont deserved to be cheated on no matter what, but alot deserved to be divorced! lol

I agree!
Some women should have never been married in the first place...

Nitro Express
02-28-2006, 02:21 AM
There seems to be a ton of cheating. Oh there always was cheating and people hid it more in the old days. We are more open now but we have a huge divorce rate that is taking it's toll on families.

I often wonder if the cheating and failed marriages are a victim of our "have it now!" lifestyle. I don't know but my observation is people are horribly less patient and want a sollution to the problem now! A lot of these problems could be worked out but nobody wants to work the problem. Marriage and the loyalty it's built on seems to be as disposable as a Depends adult diaper these days.

It's fuck when you want to and lie. It's spend beyond your means because tommorrow will take care of itself. It's blame the spouse and not bother to look in the mirror.

Some people should be dogs, they would be happier smelling any ass they can get away with sniffing, humping anything in sight, and licking their own balls and asshole.

Nitro Express
02-28-2006, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
I said it and I'll say it again;


Men just like to grab 'something"! :p

Bingo! Baby Got Back! Like Sir Mixalot I like big ass in the J-Lo fashion. Not some ugly, sloppy, FAT ass, but a shapely, in shape, big butt. The kind found on hot college female vollyball and basketball players.

I want no boney Jollie whatever. I want luciouse curves.

blonddgirl777
02-28-2006, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
There seems to be a ton of cheating. Oh there always was cheating and people hid it more in the old days. We are more open now but we have a huge divorce rate that is taking it's toll on families.

I often wonder if the cheating and failed marriages are a victim of our "have it now!" lifestyle. I don't know but my observation is people are horribly less patient and want a sollution to the problem now! A lot of these problems could be worked out but nobody wants to work the problem. Marriage and the loyalty it's built on seems to be as disposable as a Depends adult diaper these days.

It's fuck when you want to and lie. It's spend beyond your means because tommorrow will take care of itself. It's blame the spouse and not bother to look in the mirror.

Some people should be dogs, they would be happier smelling any ass they can get away with sniffing, humping anything in sight, and licking their own balls and asshole.

Very well said!!!

Jimmy Jingles
02-28-2006, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by bru87tr
jolie is one of the ugliest chicks I have ever seen. with makeup she might be ok but without, dang she is super skank. wouldnt want to wake up mext to that in the morning.


chick are really obsesses these days with being skinny. they take it too far though.


what happened to shapely woman ? plus you start losing too much weight there go the boobs. alot of chicks are missing it in that area today. not to mention no hips or ass either.


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/cacree/angelina_jolie.jpg

Jimmy Jingles
02-28-2006, 03:45 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/cacree/angelina-jolie-04.jpg

bru87tr
02-28-2006, 04:20 PM
dont look like the same boobs in both pics(boob job?) and she obviously starved herself to get a shape as she has ribs in the first pic and none in the second. ribs are not attractive.

I have seen a picture of her without makeup and she is nasty!

blonddgirl777
02-28-2006, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by bru87tr
dont look like the same boobs in both pics(boob job?) and she obviously starved herself to get a shape as she has ribs in the first pic and none in the second. ribs are not attractive.

I have seen a picture of her without makeup and she is nasty!

I tought the exact same thing (about the boobs)... but didn't dare writing it...

My ex-boss sat next to her and her badly raised kid (so she said) in a V.I.P. lounge of an airport
and said she was hardly recognisable and extremely skeletic!

Millermoos
03-01-2006, 07:28 AM
lifestyle. Yes I do agree with this but we also meet more people beacuse of travelling, people in previous generations did not travel as much as we do now.
In some cases divorce is actually a good thing people in previous generations where stuck with each other till death. Is good to have a way out if things get nasty.
Millermoos

mads1011
03-30-2006, 06:09 PM
hey people just want to thank all of you for your advice. I am sorry that i took so long to reply. It has been a tough time. I was thinking of cheating and I did not. We talked and started to have sex again. You all had great advice I thank all of you. It is true , honesty is the way to go and talking helps too. We have been to gether 20 years 13 married with 2 sons and I know the grass is not greener next door. Rock ON

blonddgirl777
04-02-2006, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by mads1011
hey people just want to thank all of you for your advice. I am sorry that i took so long to reply. It has been a tough time. I was thinking of cheating and I did not. We talked and started to have sex again. You all had great advice I thank all of you. It is true , honesty is the way to go and talking helps too. We have been to gether 20 years 13 married with 2 sons and I know the grass is not greener next door. Rock ON

I always say that where there is true love and strong will, almost anything can be worked out... ;)

Nickdfresh
04-02-2006, 12:43 PM
Is this a JCook alias?:)

DavidLeeNatra
04-02-2006, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by mads1011
We have been to gether 20 years 13 married with 2 sons and I know the grass is not greener next door. Rock ON

sure?

http://www.playboy.de/FT/image/bild2.jpg

reminds me of the frank drebbin scene... :D

guwapo_rocker
04-02-2006, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by mads1011
Do you tell the woman that you are about to get involved with that you are married or no? Should you wait until she ask or what if she don't ask. help out a bro, bro's

You should definitely tell her.

And if she hasn't figured it out, you should also tell her that you

are retarded.