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BigBadBrian
02-17-2006, 01:03 PM
Liberal Media Denial
Mike Rosen
February 17, 2006


Yes, labels matter. When used honestly they matter very much. Accurately identifying someone's underlying philosophy lets you know where he sits so you can better judge where he stands. It's a filter through which you can screen biases, agendas and baloney.

Conservatives tend to speak their minds candidly. They proudly acknowledge their pedigree. When you hear someone declare that "labels don't matter anymore," it's generally a liberal who'd rather disguise his stripes. Maybe that's why Whittaker Chambers, a one-time member of the Communist Party USA who recovered from that perverted ideology, noted that in America "the left can only take power through deception."

Liberals and conservatives have different assumptions about human nature, the way the world works and the role of government in society. It's been said that liberals don't care what you do as long as it's mandatory. They're coercive utopians at heart. Capitalists believe in equality of opportunity; socialists believe in equality of outcome, redistributed by government.

A recent letter to the editor - by a liberal - took issue with the charge that the media are overwhelmingly liberal. He repeated several familiar canards. While conceding that "journalists lean toward being liberal," he argued that this is offset by the oversight and influence of editors and publishers who are "overwhelmingly conservative."

"To think that corporations that own the mainstream media are liberal is ludicrous," he indignantly asserted. Really?

The term "mainstream media" is a misnomer. "Dominant liberal establishment media" is more like it and drops the pretense that the liberal media reflect mainstream American opinion. They don't; they're well to the left of it. And editors come up through the same channels as reporters. They're of the same breed. They have the same populist, anti-establishment agenda and a poor understanding of business and economics. They're even more sensitive than reporters to the politics of the current newsroom obsession with liberal political correctness and "diversity."

The notion of a crusading publisher rolling up his sleeves and writing editorial copy is an anachronism. The corporate suits that run the show now are MBAs and marketing types concerned about budgets, return on investment, market share, advertising revenues and Nielsen ratings. Some individual business executives may be registered Republicans and ideologically conservative in their private lives, but they don't necessarily behave that way when acting corporately. When wearing their pinstriped uniforms, most executives care more about principal than principles. They're pacifists in the war of ideas. They'd just as soon leave the content end of the business to the "talent." The New York Times is part of a large, profitable corporation but is indisputably liberal in its editorial opinion and news spin. So are Time, Newsweek, CBS, NBC and ABC. Denver Post publisher Dean Singleton says he's no liberal but the paper he publishes is unquestionably so. So much for the myth of "conservative corporations" dictating content.

In his parting shot, our letter writer says, "If you want liberal, listen to Air America or read The Nation, but don't offend my keen liberal senses with the notion that the media are liberal." This is another cute tactic: laying false claim to the center by recasting the political spectrum in the liberal image. The Nation magazine isn't simply "liberal," it's far left. And so is Air America. The Denver Post is liberal, that is, left center. The New York Times and Los Angeles Times are further left of center, but still within spitting distance of it. The Rocky Mountain News is liberal on its news pages but conservative, that is, right center, on its editorial page. National Review and The Weekly Standard are right center. The John Birch Society is far right. George Will is right center; David Broder is left center. David Duke is right wing; Molly Ivins is left wing. Fox News is right center. CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS and NPR are left center. Ken Salazar is liberal; Diana DeGette is ultra-liberal. Bob Beauprez is conservative; Douglas Bruce is ultra-conservative. These are all relevant and meaningful distinctions. On balance, the major media are liberal.

The midpoint of American public opinion in 2006 is probably slightly right of center. That's why George W. Bush rode all those red states to re-election, and why Republicans have a majority in both houses of Congress and hold most governorships. This, of course, can change. Along with most of the major media, liberals still hold sway in K-12 and higher education and the entertainment industry - which they believe is the natural order of things and the way they want to keep it. If those institutions were dominated by conservative views and values, liberals would be screaming bloody murder about the unfair bias.

Link (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion_columnists/article/0,2777,DRMN_23972_4473480,00.html)

LoungeMachine
02-18-2006, 11:03 AM
:crickets chirping:

FORD
02-18-2006, 02:18 PM
It's all lies anyway. All the network news anchors are now BCE shills. All three cable news networks are blatantly Chimp ass kissers. CNN and MSRNC are actually worse than FAUX in the respect that everybody knows that FAUX is and has always been a right wing propagandist tool, where the others used to be legitmate news networks.

Look at the typical "guest" lineup on a news talk show. Most of them don't even bother putting an equal ratio of "left" to "right" guests on anymore, and even those who do use the DLC Republicans in Democratic clothing (Lieberman, Richardson, Biden, etc) to misrepresent the "Liberal" point of view.

Which is like asking an Atheist to explain the Sermon on the Mount.

BigBadBrian
02-18-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by FORD
It's all lies anyway. All the network news anchors are now BCE shills. All three cable news networks are blatantly Chimp ass kissers. CNN and MSRNC are actually worse than FAUX in the respect that everybody knows that FAUX is and has always been a right wing propagandist tool, where the others used to be legitmate news networks.

Look at the typical "guest" lineup on a news talk show. Most of them don't even bother putting an equal ratio of "left" to "right" guests on anymore, and even those who do use the DLC Republicans in Democratic clothing (Lieberman, Richardson, Biden, etc) to misrepresent the "Liberal" point of view.

Which is like asking an Atheist to explain the Sermon on the Mount.

FORD, EVERYONE is to the right of you. You just don't recognize that. You don't understand that.

FORD
02-18-2006, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
FORD, EVERYONE is to the right of you. You just don't recognize that. You don't understand that.

Everyone on TV? Yeah, probably.

But not in the REAL world.

Less than 20% of eligible voters in this country voted for the Chimp. And that's not accounting for Diebold or any other fraudulent measures (see Kate Harris or Uncle Tom Blackwell)

The reason half the eligible voting public stays home on election day, despite the serious problems facing this country, is because they believe that neither of the two parties represents them.

And it''s safe to say that none of those people think either party is too far to the "left". Rather it's the DLC-controlled Democratic party pandering to the corporatist right which has alienated them.

That's about half the country that wouldn't hold their nose and vote for Kerry in order to lose the BCE.

I guess you can't say I'm to the left of them, can you?

God help me, that must make me a "centrist" :(

thome
02-18-2006, 03:24 PM
Question; What was that thread here at the Army a few months ago
that posted a web address that had a short 20 question -Test-,
that we could take and at the end of it the -Test- would state
what affiliated, think ,thought, group, you were in Centrist, Rep, Dem,
Federalist,Nationalist all kinds of descriptive, jive.

After i took the test (can't even remember what it said i was) I
wrote a lil, E-Mail, here how it go;

You can't pigeon hole me with your caged Ideas of what or who I am
this thinly vieled -Test- is nothing more than a -Pole- on what you
think, I think, I am and your want to say or even assume that
I am anthing that can be described by your Biased -Test- is
the problem with your conceptions of what Intelect or the ability to
comprehend is. So, please take your Higher education -In the Box-
caged, force fed learning curve and shove it up your Ass.

There is a difference between rite and wrong not left or rite it's
as simple as the nose on your face .The grey are is the debate,
and there is no grey area, simply rite or wrong.

Just because its -rite- doesn't mean you have to try and say it isn't.
that's the problem with the -left- and that's the problem with the -rite-
I know the diff between rite and wrong everyone does some people
just play the devils advocate and never see the light.

BigBadBrian
02-18-2006, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Uncle Tom Blackwell

That's racist. A black man can't be a Republican without being labeled an Uncle Tom? Fucking UNREAL. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

DrMaddVibe
02-18-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:crickets chirping:

Must be from one of your many "sold out"...ahemmm..."shows"!

thome
02-18-2006, 04:53 PM
Dave touched on something on his show with Rollins this week
(rollins, lead on this and i agree with the assumptions i am making about his short statement.. embellishing on it)

Why is it that when decisions need to be -answered- -solved- the
left /rite bias get's in the way of the -solving of the problem-..?

That's what i mean by the -Grey- area if it needs to be done, do-it
stop infighting over who's idea it was

We need new sewers of 66th street but the dems thought of it first
if we vote yes they'll have one in the win collum Can't have that
so we vote no two years later we will bring it up when we have majority
vote and be the heroes.

This has always been the prob ....
I can see the ones who do this Others think it's a way of life, Dem /Rep
its -over thought /under action-