HOLY KRAP! Battle Of Troy Was Fought In The UK? [Archive]

Hardrock69

03-11-2006, 12:34 AM

My Dad has always had an interest in Ancient History...something I got into as well (without his influence, but I digress).

So he sent me this link this evening.

http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/

Fascinating.

And entirely possible.

Plausible? Who knows....

These guys do....

Professor Sir Moses Finley (Ancient History - Cambridge ) expresses the view that the weight of evidence made it clear that Troy and the Trojan War did not occur in the Greek and Turkish setting.

Professor P H Damste (Speech & Language pathology) author of "Concentric Man" Click here takes the view (short summary): " Valuable knowledge is to be discovered about the people of the Northwest European coast around 1200 BC, how they navigated the oceans and a great war between the Kings of continental Europe and the Trojan king in England who held a monopoly of tin-mining in Cornwall. Such information is encoded in the Iliad and Odyssey. "

The methodology of the research on Troy is explained in the author's lecture to the "Herodoteans", Classical Society of the University of Cambridge (UK) held on 26th May 1992, entitled "The Trojan Kings of England" this has been made available on the internet by emeritus Professor P.H. Damste.

Hardrock69

03-11-2006, 12:44 AM

The First Paragraph of:

The Trojan Kings of England

Lecture by Iman J. Wilkens to the 'Herodoteans',

Classical Society of the University of Cambridge, U.K.,

on 26th May 1992.

Since classical antiquity, readers of Homer have been puzzled by the inconsistencies of the Greek geography as described in both the Iliad and the Odyssey. Already Strabo and Eratosthenes had abandoned their efforts to make sense of Homer's geography in the Mediterranean. To mention only a few examples of the absurdities : when Odysseus had arrived in his native country Ithaca, which is supposed to be Thiaki near Greece's west coast, he at first made believe Athene that he had come as a passenger aboard a ship travelling from Crete to Sidon, present Saïda in Lebanon. But it is obvious to anyone that Thiaki is not on the way from Crete to Lebanon, but quite in the opposite direction. As to Ithaca itself, it is described as the westernmost of a group of islands while it is also situated close to the mainland, with the tiny island of Asteris close by. As none of these descriptions and none of the other details mentioned by the poet correspond to the present island of Thiaki, or to any of the other islands in the region, the problem of identifying Homer's Ithaca has never been solved, despite the efforts of countless scholars. Most surprising is also the story where Agamemnon recounts that it took him a full month to sail from his kingdom Argos, taken to be in the northeastern Peloponnese, to Ithaca, when we know that in Greece the trip takes less than 24 hours. One may also wonder why the Achaeans built 1186 ships for their attack on Troy in Turkey as it would have been much cheaper, quicker and far more convenient to approach northwest Turkey overland via Thessaly. What is more, they were clearly afraid to cross the sea, despite the fact that sailing in the Aegean is rather a question of 'island hopping' as one is seldom out of sight of the next island. But Iphigenia had to be offered to secure a fair wind and Menelaus even invoked the gods to show him the best course to sail from Lesbos to Euboea. But when he hears that his brother Agamemnon was assassinated by his wife, he apparently sees no particular difficulty in making the enormous detour to Egypt to build a burial mound for his dead brother in this country which, in fact, was ruled by the Pharaohs and certainly not by Agamemnon or any other Greek king. If the Achaeans were afraid to cross the Aegean Sea, one also wonders why Paris, after the abduction of Helen, on his way from Greece to Turkey, would have made the enormous detour via Sidon in Lebanon to buy some embroidered cloth for her. Another story that defies explanation is about a merchant sailing from Taphos with a cargo of iron to Temese, as it is impossible to identify these names with coastal cities or with any mining region in the Mediterranean, as many commentators have noticed. We are also informed about a place with a very healthy climate called the island of Syria, situated about six days sailing north of Ortygia, which could not be identified either, apart from the fact that such a north-south distance is too great for the Mediterranean. One also wonders, for instance, how Menelaus' ship could drift from Cape Malea southwards to Crete in a storm blowing from the south !