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Nickdfresh
03-11-2006, 10:54 PM
Ronald Reagan Caused 9/11
by Devilstower
Thu May 05, 2005 at 10:42:11 PM PDT

You think I'm being funny? You think I'm going over the top? I'm not laughing.

In as direct a way as anyone not actually on board the planes that day, the patron saint of conservatives is responsible for the events of 9/11. Possibly more so than Osama bin Laden.

Here's the history of a quarter century, written out in blood, oil, good intentions, bad execution, foolish pride, and visions both broad in narrow. This is how we all followed St. Ronald down the road to 9/11.

* Devilstower's diary :: ::
*

The first step to that awful morning in September came quietly, while no one was paying attention. In fact, it was so subtle that now the date is hard to pinpoint. Somewhere around 1970, the United States passed peak domestic oil production. That year, the annual domestic oil production in the United States hit 4.1 billion barrels. It never would again. By 2000, that number would be down to 2.8 billion barrels.

In 1970, the United States already imported 22% of its oil. By 1973, that number had almost doubled to 36%. We were increasing our total energy consumption by 5% a year, and practically all of that energy was flowing in from overseas. Even then, America slept right through the growing dependence as Vietnam and the first inklings of something funny happening at a Washington hotel played out in the news. We were about to get a wakeup call.

The alarm went off while Americans were still learning the vocabulary of Watergate. While we were pondering "Deep throat," Egypt and Syria were building up forces along their disputed borders with Israel. On October 6, 1973 both countries launched the opening movements of the Yom Kippur War. The Israelis were outnumbered on both fronts, and for four days they suffered heavy losses as opposition forces advanced. Then on October 10, they turned the tide and won upsets on both fronts. The Soviet Union began sending aid to Egypt and Syria. The United States countered by upping aid to Israel. For 18 days, the
three armies feinted, skirmished, pounded holy hell out of each other, and stood proxy for the Cold War.

In the end, Israel held the field, but only at very high cost. They had lost 6,000 soldiers and 150 planes. Their opponents had lost more (8,500), but the real casualty was the idea, left over from the 1967 war, that an Israeli soldier was worth a hundred Arabs. Far from being upset at the results of this war, Arab spirits soared. Though they had gained no land, it was looked on in "the street" as a victory.

Buoyed by their initial success in this slugfest, and enraged at US involvement in the war (which was blamed as the only reason the Israelis were able to hold on), the Arab nations turned to an institution that had been around for over a decade, but was generally regarded as a joke: the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. While the bullets were still flying, on October 17th, 1973, OPEC announced an embargo on the sale of oil to countries that had aided Israel.

Though the war served as a convenient excuse, it wasn't the only reason the OPEC states took action. Then, like now, oil was valued in US dollars, and with the US stuck in "stagflation," OPEC was looking for a way to force a price increase. The embargo and subsequent price adjustments accomplished this goal.

Overnight, the price of oil doubled, then tripled as demand outstripped supply. The United States learned that its energy supply, and its economy, was terribly vulnerable to an attack that had little to do with bombs and planes. By the start of 1974, shortages were beginning to be felt in prices the pump. The United States, along with the rest of the world, slipped into recession.

The shock to the system was so abrupt, that government took previously unimaginable steps. Even Nixon, who was busy dealing with his own personal scandals, woke up enough to issue a stack of executive orders. Congress was also active, passing emergency legislation. It's no exaggeration to say that the political reaction to the oil embargo and resulting shortages was much more severe than anything related to 9/11.

In short order, the Trans-Alaska Pipeline was authorized, to get at oil around Prudhoe Bay. By November congress had passed the Emergency Petroleum Allocation Act, embracing government regulation of energy, a national petroleum reserve, and government intervention in the petroleum markets. A national speed limit of 55 mph was slapped on every road in America. There was year-round daylight savings time. The Federal Energy Administration was created. 'Project Independence,' was created in hopes of freeing the U.S. completely from foreign oil dependence by 1980.

At the height of the shortage, rationing was put in place. Drivers of vehicles with license plates having an odd number as the last digit could purchase gasoline only on odd-numbered days of the month. Drivers with even-numbered license plates could purchase fuel only on even-numbered days.

Nixon went out, Ford went in, and the US continued its attempt to arrest the slide. In 1975, the US put in place the first fuel economy standards - standards that were designed to double the fuel efficiency of American cars and trucks within ten years. Muscle cars began to be replaced by small hatchbacks in the dealer's showrooms. Japanese imports started moving up the sales charts.

The embargo officially ended in March of 1974, but oil prices didn't drop to previous levels. In fact, OPEC continued to fiddle with supply and contracts, keeping oil at four times what it was selling for before the embargo. By the time James Earl Carter took office in 1976, gas lines were less common, but they were still not unknown. Gas stations were still occasionally shut down by temporary shortages, and prices fluctuated 100% over a few days.

Energy conservation crept into public discourse for the first time since World War II. Public programs emphasized turning off the lights, car pooling, and using public transit. For much of President Carter's term, programs continued as they had been defined after the 1973 crisis, then a second wakeup call came.

In 1979, the Iranian Revolution sent the Shah on the run, left US diplomats stranded as hostages in Tehran, and damaged the Iranian oil industry. With Iran all but off line, demand once again outstripped supply and oil prices soared. At one point in 1979, the price reached the equivalent of $80 a barrel in 2005 dollars.

With shortages and lines at the pumps for the second time in five years, ration cards were printed (though never issued). Some rationing was imposed by local governments, but it never became widespread.

Faced with fresh evidence that the US was not decreasing its dependence on foreign oil and was still as vulnerable as ever, President Carter declared that the fight to control our energy sources was "the moral equivalent of war." The FEA was elevated to the Department of Energy, and its head made a cabinet position. A comprehensive energy plan was put in place for the first time. Programs were established for creating synthetic oil from coal and other sources. Programs were created for alternative fuels, including biofuels. Programs were created to boost the US solar power industry, and for wind energy. Research into electric cars and high mileage vehicles was kicked into overdrive (pun intended). Perhaps most importantly, incentives were created for conservation and a schedule of increasingly tough mileage standards was created.

One thing that President Carter did that might come as a shock to many - he argued for, and got, deregulation of the oil industry, in hopes that this would provide incentives for further domestic production. The industry had been regulated by Nixon during the 1973 crisis, and oil companies blamed this regulation for inability to meet demand. However, when prices continued to move up after deregulation, many people began to call the 1979 crisis a "fake" engineered by the oil companies to raise prices.

In addition to more practical steps, President Carter made symbolic gestures toward saving energy. He began to give his speeches to the nation wearing a sweater to show that the White House thermostat had been turned down. He installed a wood stove in the living quarters of the White House. He had a set of solar water heating panels installed on the White House roof.

For the period of 1973 to 1980, the United States refused to walk the 9/11 highway. Rising energy prices lead the charge for near run-away inflation, and the economy wandered in and out of recession as it was battered by energy shortages. Many of the programs of that time were misguided. Some were flat out silly. But for a few years, Americans showed that they were still willing to make big changes in their lifestyles to meet the challenge of a safer, cleaner world.

Then came Ronald Reagan.

The same crisis in Iran that sent oil prices through the roof, floored President Carter's run for a second term. While Carter campaigned on a program of fiscal responsibility and energy saving, his opponent ran on a platform that encouraged consumption, massive government spending on defense, and tax cuts as a way out of the country's problems. In the second debate between the two candidates, he put off OPEC as just another excuse for why the economy wasn't doing well. Faced with a choice between a candidate who asked for further sacrifices in the name of long term prosperity and security, and a candidate who proclaimed it was "morning in America," the voters went with the later.

What happened then was the single most critical moment in American political history in more than fifty years. It didn't happen at a meeting with a foreign leader. It didn't happen on the eve of a war. It happened right in Washington D.C. and it happened before the confetti of the inaugural balls had been swept from the roads. In his very first official act as president, Reagan ordered the solar panels removed from the White House.

Those panels were symbolic, but they were symbolic of very real programs and very real progress being made toward changing the energy mix in the United States. Almost as quickly as he had moved to take down the solar panels, Reagan moved to stop research into solar energy and alternate fuels. Incentives for conservation were ended.

When Reagan took office in 1981, the demand for imported oil was actually trending downward, and a few months later, it hit its lowest point in a decade.

With the end of any attempt at conservation, and with no threat of a domestic alternative fuel source, import volumes and prices climbed. By the time Reagan left office, the United States was using 10% more imported oil than it had before the 1973 crisis. Plans for cutting that percentage had been thrown out the windows, standards for mileage had been weakened, and almost every trace of President Carter's energy plan had been eradicated (all but the deregulation, Reagan completed that soon after he took office).

In 1980, the United States had been at a fork in the road, facing either a path of energy independence that required short term sacrifice for the long term good, or a path of energy dependence that took short term gains with no concern for the long term. Reagan steered the country onto that second path. Under his guidance, we took the biggest step toward 9/11.

But we were still only partway there. The dependence on foreign oil that kept the United States heavily invested in the Middle East was only half of the forces that brought us to disaster.

To find the other steps, you have to start again in 1973, and you have to go to the other side of the world. For forty years, Afghanistan had a period of relative peace under the reign of King Zahir Shah. The country was considered very modern, and visitors often commented on the popularity of western music, freedom of women, and the open culture. But in 1973, the King was overthrown by his brother-in-law. Five years later, communists launched a second coup and took over the government.

Almost immediately, the United States began funneling money and arms to opposition forces in Afghanistan. It was under President Carter's administration that the first contacts were made in 1978. The opposition forces enjoyed great early success - so much so that in 1979, the Soviet Union sent its army into Afghanistan to prop up the crumbling communist government. The United States protested this action and continued to fund the mujahideen guerillas.

Among the mujahideen, were many foreign fighters who had come to Afghanistan out of a sense of "Muslim unity." This group featured many of the future leaders of Al Qaeda, including Osama bin Laden.

Fighting the Soviets gave these men a extensive course in how to fight against a modern, mechanized army, but funding them wasn't really the problem. The real problem came when the Soviets withdrew. By 1989, the USSR was out, and the rebels backed by the US were in control. It was at this point that the United States could have moved to provide further support - support for schools, for roads, for all the infrastructure of peaceful government. It did not.

To be sure, the last Soviet troops didn't leave Afghanistan until two weeks after Ronald Regan left office, but long before that, the mujahideen were in control of the bulk of the country. Still, Reagan's action was directed at the Soviets and the Soviets alone. With their forces driven away, little thought was given to the future of Afghanistan.

Very quickly, fighting broke out between mujahideen factions. It wasn't Soviet troops who destroyed the Afghan cities, it was fighting between the warlords who appeared in the gap after the Soviets withdrew. The fighting continued for years, leading to the near total destruction of Kabul and the death of 10,000 people in 1994.

By then, the Afghani people had had enough. They were willing to turn to someone, anyone who could offer a break from the fighting. That someone turned out to be the Taliban. Backed by Pakistan and Arab states, the Taliban eventually took power in 1996.

And now we're there. We've taken the final, crucial steps.

On the one hand, you have an America so dependent on imported oil that it can't help but embroil itself in the Middle East. On the other hand, you have Afghanistan held by a radical Islamic group willing to act as hosts for even more radical terrorists. You have terrorists trained with United States money. And you have men who have already seen that they can bloody the nose of a giant with nothing more than good planning and ruthless action.

9/11 follows as surely as night follows day.

Of course, it's not really right to blame Reagan for making 9/11 happen, any more than it's right to blame the parents of a child turned serial killer for the actions of their offspring. Reagan didn't make it happen. He only put all the pieces in place, and then gave his famous smile.

When they're laying out the designs for those Ronald Reagan dimes, they should give serious consideration to what goes on the back. How about a nice image of the twin towers?

Link (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/5/6/04211/23788)

Cathedral
03-11-2006, 11:19 PM
It's never fun to watch a commie liberal hit rock bottom and resort to desperation.

May 5th, 2005, Nick?

Honestly, how much time did you waste searching for an Anti-Reagan article, bro?

Damn, that's hard up, brotha'

;) We got the commie bastards on the run, Warham, rotmfflmmfao...

And who says, "It's just an avatar!" ?
Why these puppies get people's dander all riled up, lol.

Warham
03-11-2006, 11:47 PM
It looks like you just can't get an avatar which goes by unnoticed anymore, eh? :)

blueturk
03-11-2006, 11:55 PM
Admit it. You guys love this thread. It takes your mind off of Dubya...

"We thought we were protected forever from trade policy or terrorist attacks because oceans protected us." —George W. Bush, speaking to business leaders at APEC Summit, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 20, 2004

Nickdfresh
03-12-2006, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral
It's never fun to watch a commie liberal hit rock bottom and resort to desperation.

May 5th, 2005, Nick?

Honestly, how much time did you waste searching for an Anti-Reagan article, bro?

About 30-seconds.


Damn, that's hard up, brotha'

;) We got the commie bastards on the run, Warham, rotmfflmmfao...

And who says, "It's just an avatar!" ?
Why these puppies get people's dander all riled up, lol.

Actually, I was looking for an article that talked about how REAGAN "cut and run" from Beirut, Lebanon in 1983 after the USMC Barracks Bombing killed 300 of our boys. He never really retaliated, did he? Well, to be fair he supported SADDAM HUSSEIN during the IRAN-IRAQ War....

A CIA Agent charged with investigating the aftermath and who was behind it basically has said that he found out that it was essentially the IRANIANs, using elements of both the Islamic and Christian militias to carry out the attack. He also said that his findings were covered up by the State Dept., so as not to cause an outcry to attack Iran and start a war. He was charged with murdering the guy who delivered the bomb from Iran to Hezbollah, even though he had left Beirut before the guy was killed...

Some have said that this single act alone may have damaged American credibility more than anything else, far more so than the "Blackhawk Down" thing some like to pin all on Clinton...

BTW, I never said I completely agree with this article either. It's far too glowing on Carter, and pretty simplistic. But if we're going to blame ex-Presidents for the scourge of terrorism, lets name all of the guilty...

Warham
03-12-2006, 12:21 AM
Why don't we blame terrorism on the real culprits, terrorists?

It might be a novel idea, sure, but it might be one worth checking into.

Nitro Express
03-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Shit. Any American who buys oil caused 9/11. We're all fucking guilty!

FORD
03-12-2006, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Warham
Why don't we blame terrorism on the real culprits, terrorists?

It might be a novel idea, sure, but it might be one worth checking into.

And that guy in your avatar created the terrorists.

Well, it was really Poppy Bush, of course. But it was done under Reagan's pretense of being "President".

Cathedral
03-12-2006, 03:12 AM
I gotta be honest here, I didn't even read the article to begin with.
The title was about as far as i got with it.

For the record, there are a lot of things that keep my mind off "Dubya"...that really isn't that hard to do.
Making money and paying off all my debts is my current mission, and that takes up a lot of my time.

Sleeping here and there helps a little too.

Viva La Ronnie!

Cathedral
03-12-2006, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
About 30-seconds.



Actually, I was looking for an article that talked about how REAGAN "cut and run" from Beirut, Lebanon in 1983 after the USMC Barracks Bombing killed 300 of our boys. He never really retaliated, did he? Well, to be fair he supported SADDAM HUSSEIN during the IRAN-IRAQ War....

A CIA Agent charged with investigating the aftermath and who was behind it basically has said that he found out that it was essentially the IRANIANs, using elements of both the Islamic and Christian militias to carry out the attack. He also said that his findings were covered up by the State Dept., so as not to cause an outcry to attack Iran and start a war. He was charged with murdering the guy who delivered the bomb from Iran to Hezbollah, even though he had left Beirut before the guy was killed...

Some have said that this single act alone may have damaged American credibility more than anything else, far more so than the "Blackhawk Down" thing some like to pin all on Clinton...

BTW, I never said I completely agree with this article either. It's far too glowing on Carter, and pretty simplistic. But if we're going to blame ex-Presidents for the scourge of terrorism, lets name all of the guilty...

It ain't about blame with me Nick, i'd think you might have figured that out by now.
I happen to think they're all guilty...all the way back to 1900 when we first thought our shit didn't stink.
It's you guys that are all fired up with the blame ray...some folks pin shit on Clinton so y'all feel justified in throwing some blame right back...it's nothing but a pissing match that does nobody any good, but goes a long way in insulting each others integrity.

Nice article, but your assessment of the authors assessment is flawed.
It was around the 1940's that we started pissing people off with our BIG DOG attitudes, not 1984.
But it was Reagan who told the entire world, "We ain't gonna take yer shit!".

Dubya, well, he starts shit and i don't like him for that very reason, initially, but then it snowballs straight to hell so we'll leave all that for other threads.

Reagan was the best modern prez, period....Get off Dutch, muh' fucka'!

Warham
03-12-2006, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by FORD
And that guy in your avatar created the terrorists.

Well, it was really Poppy Bush, of course. But it was done under Reagan's pretense of being "President".

What an ignorant statement.

Nickdfresh
03-12-2006, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral
I gotta be honest here, I didn't even read the article to begin with.
The title was about as far as i got with it.

For the record, there are a lot of things that keep my mind off "Dubya"...that really isn't that hard to do.
Making money and paying off all my debts is my current mission, and that takes up a lot of my time.

Sleeping here and there helps a little too.

Viva La Ronnie!

The article is somewhat intentionally mis-titled...

He actually states that it's US policy since NIXON (and virtually every President) that has contributed to the problems in the Middle East. The truth is that you can go back to WWII with these things... But REAGAN is the first President to dispatch US military power to the Gulf during the Iran-Iraq War to guard our oil sources...

Nickdfresh
03-12-2006, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral
It ain't about blame with me Nick, i'd think you might have figured that out by now.
...

I know CAT. I'm trying to spark conversation here...

I just wish some people would be more realistic about all Presidents, and apply the same kind of skepticism and second-guessing that they do to CLINTON...

Cathedral
03-12-2006, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I know CAT. I'm trying to spark conversation here...

I just wish some people would be more realistic about all Presidents, and apply the same kind of skepticism and second-guessing that they do to CLINTON...

It's those darn human traits. we get all defensive when our lap dogs get kicked, lol.
Clinton was a liar, and he lied under oath, that's what i don't like about him. it doesn't matter why or for what as much as the fact that he did so in such a public way, by shaking his finger at America as if it were a child he was scolding.

He played the guilt card as if he were an innocent man, he made people second guess themselves and wonder if maybe thay had misjudged him....it wasn't about a blow job as some would like to think, it was about the lack of honor and integrity he showed the office of President, and he wasn't the only one in history either.

But that isn't the point, I could care less who Clinton bangs, but when you're busted you're busted, and he should have seen the walls coming down around him and just come clean.

But even that is beside the point now, the only way terrorists wouldn't exist is if we bowed down to every demand ever made of us over the last 200+ years.
Maybe if we had just not formed a Union at all, things would be different today.

But that only works if you don't believe in the existance of good and evil. and when there is power to grab, evil finds itself pitted against good...it's biblical, it's guarenteed, it's life, and it's about to enter the final 2 minutes...

Partisan bickering just gives everyone something to do to pre-occupy themselves while they ignore the truth, what's coming to pass, the end buzzer...GAME OVER, DUDE!

Hardrock69
03-13-2006, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Warham
Why don't we blame terrorism on the real culprits, terrorists?

It might be a novel idea, sure, but it might be one worth checking into.

I have been doing so all along.

Our President and his entire Cabinet are terrorists.

And yes, I blame terrorism on them.

All along the terrists in Al Quaeda have said their problem is with American Foreign Policy.

That is my problem as well.

The CIA, NSA, etc. have for decades now created and/or destroyed 3rd-world puppet regimes to suit their own ends, not for any reason that might actually BENEFIT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE or any other people on this planet.

The United States Government has nobody to blame but itself for "terrism".

:rolleyes:

ODShowtime
03-13-2006, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
[BDamn, that's hard up, brotha'

;) We got the commie bastards on the run, Warham, rotmfflmmfao... [/B]


You don't have anyone on the run from anything :rolleyes:

Your man is still a bum and our country is still all fucked up because of people don't pay attention. Nothing's changed.

scamper
03-13-2006, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
our country is still all fucked up because of people don't pay attention

exactly!!!

LoungeMachine
03-13-2006, 12:42 PM
Reagan broke up Van Halen, too.

Don't forget that.

Steve Savicki
03-13-2006, 02:06 PM
Ronald Reagan is responsible for most anything American politically negative from the 80's foward.

Warham
03-13-2006, 02:18 PM
Scraping the bottom of the barrel are we?

Steve Savicki
03-13-2006, 02:20 PM
Just following the timeline.

FORD
03-13-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Steve Savicki
Ronald Reagan is responsible for most anything American politically negative from the 80's foward.

Not so much him personally, but definitely the BCE political machine took a huge turn for the worse during this time. Lee Atwater and his fellow Satan spawn Karl Rove are more to blame than anyone for the hate politics.

Cathedral
03-13-2006, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
You don't have anyone on the run from anything :rolleyes:

Your man is still a bum and our country is still all fucked up because of people don't pay attention. Nothing's changed.

He isn't, "my man", so if we're going to talk about paying attention, start by doing so yourself, thanks.

But it isn't surprising that you pick the sarcastic part of my post to quote...it's typical i reckon.
I bet you think that is my whole platform, don't ya?

Look, bro, I believe in innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
you engage in public lynchings denying a persons right to due process.
How would you like to be done like that?
I'd bet you would feel violated, in fact i'm sure you wouldn't like it one bit.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, does that ring any bells for ya, brotha'?
Just another commie bastard thinking you have the right to slander someone without proving your case in the proper forum.

George W. Bush is a sack of shit, but you and your ilk are no better, holmes...that's a fact.
Take a xanax and go lay down for awhile, you need the rest.

But before you go, try and remember this piece of info...My opinion of Bush isn't based on the herd's point of view and skewed articles like yours is. I think for myself and can documnet a number of things that proved that Bush wasn't what he claimed to be.
You're a follower, OD. you follow the beat of someone else's drum like a good little troll should.
But guess what, accusations require proving, that whole burdon of proof thing, though i know, why let yoruself be bothered by the little details when the rope is already slung over the tree.

You guys are real defenders of Constitutional Right's alright, but only if it's YOUR right's in question, right?

Like i said, take a xanax and relax for cryin out loud, you're embarrassing yourselves.

Cathedral
03-13-2006, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Steve Savicki
Ronald Reagan is responsible for most anything American politically negative from the 80's foward.


What a sweeping and general statement to make while not having to provide any further insight, Steve.

I'd like for you to post some specific examples that proves you even have a damn clue what brought you to that conclusion.

It reads like a guy who has nothing to say but wanted to beat on the drum anyway....prove me wrong, what drew you to that conclusion, Steve?
I bet you can't do it without researching it first which will prove my point.

Does it make you feel like a big man if people think you know what your talking about?
I can clearly see that you don't, so who are you trying to impress here?

Your wool is showing, Sheep!

bobgnote
03-13-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
Admit it. You guys love this thread. It takes your mind off of Dubya...

"We thought we were protected forever from trade policy or terrorist attacks because oceans protected us." —George W. Bush, speaking to business leaders at APEC Summit, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 20, 2004

******S!

Add 9/11/2001 linearly to 23, like 5/8/2008, Yom HaAzmaut, Israel's 60th, ripe for HazMats on holiday. 2/14/2008 and the REAL Independence Day, 7/3/2008 are on the SAME CYCLE of fortnights, x 14 days from 9/11/01. The Bali bombing on 10/1/05 and the bombing of the Producer of the Halloween series shows a contempt and respect for the corporate forecasters of DOOM, Green Day and the Rolling Stones. G'day and Green Day are gnosh-related; Aussies DIED. In the BOOOOM of the bigger bang tour, US citizens are very likely to get hurt or die. This will be very, VERY ripe in 2008.

The US has incited reprisals by its Israeli adventures and then attacked us with the NSA and other uneven enforcers such as the CIA, which attacks foreign nationals. We have NO RECOURSE, putting us in the same position as Al Queda. Too bad if you hate math.

Your life's numbers have been truncated by METH HEADS, controlling your agenda. That is what the cops are all doing. Since all are illegal, you know that is when they will not be busted; see Arnold's Prop. 64, 2003.

Al Queda means THE BASE. We have gone to the trouble of getting ARABIC NUMERALS, so even numbskulls can add. Add an 'H' to your ADD, even if it hurts. Neglect of math skills going into 2008 can be very, VERY fatal, to the USA and its tweaks.

Tweaks! You gotta do homework! Wait till 2008, you'll get hungry or ate by something you should have seen coming around, bigger than any tweak agenda, yet.

Moussaoui was JACKED by the USA. You all need to notice the NSA would not get busted if Ron Howard had not released Curious George, and what a cute monkey he is on all our backs.

Something is REALLY WRONG with Democrats, who cannot impeach, but only Wilson and FDR and Clinton won back-to-back re-election, as Democrats, since Jackson.

Sam Alito is a Justice in contempt, having illegally reviewed Vanguard Mutual while owning stock, who would get contempt of Congress rather than Sandy O'Connor's seat on the Supremes, but for catechism going on in Biden, Kerry, Kennedy, Leahy, et al, and an energy portfolio with Feinstein, and NOBODY in PA. filed contempt!

If Moussaoui eats an ugly sentence, we will get hit harder, by more severe damage to our soft-target underbelly. Moussaoui, war circumstances, fraud on the out and about, Guantanamo, Abu Graib, and others make US look much too ugly to continue in influence, in a world beset by a US-contrived funding implosion, which AL QUEDA AND A FEW HONEST MEDIA LIKE ROBERT REICH AND I WILL RECOGNIZE, four years after neglect of alarms.

Robert Reich has been off TV for a YEAR, having told some spin doctor the energy inflation is killing our economy. I get hung up on whenever I try to tell some print or braodcast geek, the 2000-1 power deals are INFLATIONARY or ILLEGAL, and they are BOTH.

WE DO NOT GET TO HAVE STUFF AND THE INFLATION!

We do not get to have the power deals AND military aid to Israel, and stuff THAT, in your illegal NBA/CBA and other labor frauds, illegally funded and injuring us, at this time, despite Al Queda's threat to the US Bank Tower, actually a hangout for lots of illegally proximate interests, ripened since the inflationary power deals were enacted.

The US Bank Tower is the DEAD MAN WALKING, like Jason or Mike Myers of HALLOWEEN. Note the facades are like the hockey mask; the 12 interest hikes preceding Greenspan's retirement are the juice, for the vast home ripoffs, about to happen, when credit collapses and the real estate bubble breaks.

CRIME PAYS, and YOU are the target, of egregious Catholic mafias, in any and all US administrations, like the late Milosevic's boys in Serbia, c. 1995. Find a use for your stank DEAD CAT, punk-rockers.

Say you want a REVOLUTION? Shutttttup, if you hate Al Queda, for merely poking at the same, inflated cost balloon, your masters in the White House and the Governor's Mansion in California want to BREAK, for profiteering.

Your post-deregulation power deals are the tactical nexus for Al Queda's 9/11/01 attack. The other shit crowded in your little pointies is all CUMULATIVE. The power deals get hit, OR ELSE!! Assholes!!

Shit-eating SCHWARZE******S! You don't get to illegally protect the ridiculously inflationary California and several states' power deals AND THE OUTLYING, RELATED SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY TO ERODE PUBLIC FUNDING AND CAUSE BRAC, with illegally submitted Prop. 23, taking our right to sue under Unfair Business Practices Law, in our state. But then, some of you are stupid enough to suck the orange (shit) cheese out of Eddie VH's leather drawers, even if you sign DLR Army. Fags!

FORD
03-13-2006, 04:55 PM
I don't know whether to delete that shit, or just laugh my ass off.......

LoungeMachine
03-13-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I don't know whether to delete that shit, or just laugh my ass off.......

Let him hang by his own rope.

Why give Bri and Co more to gripe about?

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