New Mexico Democrats call for Chimpeachment

[Hardrock69]

By SUE MAJOR HOLMES
March 21, 2006

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ALBUQUERQUE (AP) - The New Mexico Democratic Party is calling for President Bush's removal from office.

Party Chairman John Wertheim said Tuesday that delegates to Saturday's state party convention supported a call for the president's impeachment largely because of "perceived abuses of power and corruption in the Bush administration."

He listed as examples of abuses of power, warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens, the misstatement of facts preceding the invasion of Iraq, and the scandal surrounding the indictment of Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide in connection with the leak of the identity of a covert CIA operative.

"Everyone understands President Bush is not going to be impeached," Wertheim said. "But these abuses of power and corruption in the administration are deeply serious matters and there should be more talk about this abuse of power."

The one-sentence amendment, added from the floor to the platform's section on political and election reform, reads: "Resolved, that the Democratic Party of New Mexico supports the impeachment of President George Bush and his lawful removal from office."

Marta Kramer, executive director for the Republican Party of New Mexico, said Tuesday the Democrats "foolishly" voted to "to impeach and punish our president for aggressively waging the war on al-Qaida and terrorist organizations."

"How will dragging the country into impeachment hearings protect Americans?" she asked. "How will censuring the president protect Americans?"

The amendment, suggested by Bernalillo County convention delegate Robb Chavez, was accepted on a show of hands by about 80 percent of the nearly 1,400 registered convention delegates, Wertheim said. It required support by at least two-thirds of the delegates.

Kramer said the action proved the only plan the Democrats have "is to attack our president, undermine American resolve and demoralize our troops."

Wertheim said Democrats perceive a double standard between President Bush and former President Clinton. Concerns raised about Bush's actions are "much more serious than anything that was said about President Clinton," he said.

The Democrats met to nominate candidates for the June 6 primary election and to pass a party platform.

The delegates also approved a resolution concerning religious freedom in light of a lawsuit against the Air Force by an Air Force Academy graduate from Albuquerque.

The resolution states: "We believe no member of the armed services should be coerced, forced, manipulated or evangelized to any particular religion nor to any religious beliefs at all."

Mikey Weinstein, who is Jewish, sued last October, alleging the academy was unconstitutionally imposing evangelical Christianity on cadets. The lawsuit, joined by active-duty officers, asked the court bar illegal proselytizing throughout the Air Force. The group's lawyers recently asked to amend the lawsuit to also seek a declaration that the service's new guidelines on religion are unconstitutional.


http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/41145.html

[FORD]

Good for them. I'll bet that hack Richardson didn't sign it though.

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

IDIOTS.

"peceived" abuses? Let's see -
a) warrantless wiretapping, the rules were changed so now it WAS all perfectly legal,
b)misstatement of facts - hey, the administration can EASILY claim that this was the understood intelligence of the time, and the Dems made the same mistakes,
and
c) nothing has yet been proven and the democratic process has yet to reach any conslusions re: the Valerie plame leak case.

They're jumping the gun, and nopt allowing the Right to make their own mistakes. instead, they're playing right into their hands and allowing themselves tro be characterized as divided - b/c not every dem will get behind this, not by a long shot (look at feingold's censure measure for example) - and wimpy.

morons. way to work as a team guys.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
IDIOTS.

"peceived" abuses? Let's see -
a) warrantless wiretapping, the rules were changed so now it WAS all perfectly legal,
b)misstatement of facts - hey, the administration can EASILY claim that this was the understood intelligence of the time, and the Dems made the same mistakes,
and
c) nothing has yet been proven and the democratic process has yet to reach any conslusions re: the Valerie plame leak case.

They're jumping the gun, and nopt allowing the Right to make their own mistakes. instead, they're playing right into their hands and allowing themselves tro be characterized as divided - b/c not every dem will get behind this, not by a long shot (look at feingold's censure measure for example) - and wimpy.

morons. way to work as a team guys.

The problem is, The Democrats are gaing ground in mainstream america.
I hate to admit it but they are posied to give the Republicans a few surprises come November unless they choke again.
That is entirely likely too.

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

That's my point. with behaviour like this - disorganized, uncoordinated, nonstrategic and knee-jerk - they will once again make themselves look kooky to mainstream america.

when the opponent is doing a good enough job of jumping off the cliff on their own, you play it quiet and stealthfully.

BTW, no way anythng major is going to happen this november. district lines are what they are, and pop vote don;t count for shit.

[LoungeMachine]

Okay, it's starting to look like we're going to end up having 50 of these State of ____________ calls for Impeachment.

And that's not counting DC and Peurto Rico for Christ's sake.


I'm tempted to just have ONE thread, and we can all collect the states like so many new quarters collection.

Bottom line is, Laura Bush could come out tomorrow for Impeachment, backed by Babs and the entire Republican Leadership and it wouldn't faze Chimpy the simpleminded one iota.


How about LIST YOUR STATE SPONSORED IMPEACHMENT HERE Thread?

[Hardrock69]

Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
IDIOTS.

"peceived" abuses? Let's see -
a) warrantless wiretapping, the rules were changed so now it WAS all perfectly legal,
b)misstatement of facts - hey, the administration can EASILY claim that this was the understood intelligence of the time, and the Dems made the same mistakes,
and
c) nothing has yet been proven and the democratic process has yet to reach any conslusions re: the Valerie plame leak case.

They're jumping the gun, and nopt allowing the Right to make their own mistakes. instead, they're playing right into their hands and allowing themselves tro be characterized as divided - b/c not every dem will get behind this, not by a long shot (look at feingold's censure measure for example) - and wimpy.

morons. way to work as a team guys.

Thanks dumbass.

You support a terroist.

Fuck off.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
IDIOTS.

"perceived" abuses? Let's see -
a) warrantless wiretapping, the rules were changed so now it WAS all perfectly legal,

No, they weren't... BUSH's ass is being covered, there is no legality since the laws are all the same... It's still illegal, the courts have yet to rule on this... In fact, justification is based on the resolution having to do with Iraq...


b)misstatement of facts - hey, the administration can EASILY claim that this was the understood intelligence of the time, and the Dems made the same mistakes,
and
c) nothing has yet been proven and the democratic process has yet to reach any conslusions re: the Valerie plame leak case.

Don't worry, it will arive just in time for 06.'


They're jumping the gun, and nopt allowing the Right to make their own mistakes. instead, they're playing right into their hands and allowing themselves tro be characterized as divided - b/c not every dem will get behind this, not by a long shot (look at feingold's censure measure for example) - and wimpy.

morons. way to work as a team guys.

Yeah, like the corruption scandals? BTW, how's congress working "as a team with Bush?" They're abandoning him at every turn...

There is no leadership from the right side either, and you'll see a disunified party when moderate Republicans try to push for Guiliani or McCain and the Jesus-freaks attempt to push for hard right religious fanatics...

BTW, who's the Republican candidate generating buzz "right now?" Sen. George (who's that) Allen? Like more than .05% of the population even knows who he is. There's a reason why Republicans are crowing about "censure/impeachment" more than any Democrats, because they're trying to energize their base through panic for fear that a Democratic majority will result in as such...

[Warham]

Nick,

Republicans don't talk about impeachment more than Democrats do. Look at this fucking forum and tell me who spouting the word 'chimpeachment' around here more.

Nice try though. ;)

We aren't scared of Democrats. You guys will shoot yourselves in the foot like you do before every election. It's like clockwork.

http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7BC78433D9-F74B-4DD0-B038-B97457E0B86D%7D.gif

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Nick,

Republicans don't talk about impeachment more than Democrats do. Look at this fucking forum and tell me who spouting the word 'chimpeachment' around here more.

Nice try though. ;)



Chimpeachment Now is in Catheter's sig.

Nice try, though ;)

[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Chimpeachment Now is in Catheter's sig.

Nice try, though ;)

Cat calls himself a moderate.

Nice try, though. ;)

[Cathedral]

I'm a Moderate Conservative....But registered Republican.

In English, I'm a Reagan Conservative.

I have little patience for what a Liberal wants to do to this country. In fact i'd be willing to die to keep the liberal commie bastards from turning it into a socialist society.

Remember the way the WWII vets thought?
That's me, and i firmly believe that peace, freedom and liberty can only be preserved by Superior Firepower.

The numb-nut lib's don't understand how their lifestyles were paid for.
Neither does George W. Bush for that matter.
he's an elitest pig who has no repsect for the Constitution and he's proven that numerous times.

The Republicans better get their shit together though, I won't vote along party lines, and i'm referring to local elections.
We don't have a say in the Presidential Race, it's all cosmetic when we punch those particular slots.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Cat calls himself a moderate.

Nice try, though. ;)


No,

Cat calls himself a REAGAN REPUBLICAN

IT'S IN HIS AVATAR, YOU BLIND ASS MORON

God DAMN you're a fucking idiot:rolleyes:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Cathedral
I'm a Moderate Conservative....But registered Republican.


Ahhh, so WarPIG LIES again.

Thanks:cool:

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Chimpeachment Now is in Catheter's sig.

Nice try, though ;)

Since you think that is an endorsement, i removed it.

can't have you assuming shit now can we? ;)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Since you think that is an endorsement, i removed it.

can't have you assuming shit now can we? ;)


LMMFAO
I had no idea the power I had over you, Cathedra. ;) :D

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
LMMFAO
I had no idea the power I had over you, Cathedra. ;) :D

Don't flatter yourself, Lounge. I was not aware that was one of the messages. it does change ya know?

For the record, Impeachement would be the biggest mistake that could be made right now. that's why Feingold got no support with his censure shit.
And the democrats know that by removing Bush they risk and even worse alternative in these closing years of the Admin.

[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
No,

Cat calls himself a REAGAN REPUBLICAN

IT'S IN HIS AVATAR, YOU BLIND ASS MORON

God DAMN you're a fucking idiot:rolleyes:

Hey, what did Limbaugh talk about on his show today, since you listen to him?

[Warham]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Don't flatter yourself, Lounge. I was not aware that was one of the messages. it does change ya know?

For the record, Impeachement would be the biggest mistake that could be made right now. that's why Feingold got no support with his censure shit.
And the democrats know that by removing Bush they risk and even worse alternative in these closing years of the Admin.

Good post, Cat.

I only called you a moderate because you've called yourself a moderate. I didn't want to cast you as a diehard conservative like myself. :)

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Thanks dumbass.

You support a terroist.

Fuck off.

Wow, ever so eloquent. What do you do for an encore, piss your pants and run to your mommy for a fresh, unsoiled pair of Batman Under-roos?

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh

Don't worry, it will arive just in time for 06.'


Uh...since the trial isn't expected to get underway until at least january of 2007, that would be most highly unlikely...

(And there's a 50-50 chance that Libby's lawyers will be savvy enough to get this whole thing thrown out by continued requests for classified information, which the White house won;t submit and then the judge will be forced to declare a mistrial)

BTW, take a look at this...


Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE


They're jumping the gun, and nopt allowing the Right to make their own mistakes. instead, they're playing right into their hands and allowing themselves tro be characterized as divided - b/c not every dem will get behind this, not by a long shot (look at feingold's censure measure for example) - and wimpy.

morons. way to work as a team guys. [/B]

and then look at this...


Originally posted by Cathedral

For the record, Impeachement would be the biggest mistake that could be made right now. that's why Feingold got no support with his censure shit.


far as i can tell, the only real difference with these two statements is one was made by me, the other by someone who has been here for a long time and is a mod.

So, go ahead, Hard Rock, call Cathdral a dumbass. Come on, tough guy, tell him to fuck off.

Oooo, I don't agree with Hard Rock. Even though I am informed, and I do draw my own conclusions, and I don't feel the need to post every fourth rate sub-relevant anti-Bush article on the web, noooo, that's not good enough. Guess instead of debate on the matter, I should just play along with your 3rd grade, frat boy mentality and sit here and be called a moron...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Nick,

Republicans don't talk about impeachment more than Democrats do. Look at this fucking forum and tell me who spouting the word 'chimpeachment' around here more.

Nice try though. ;)

Well, lets see, you're a Republican presumably, and you're the one obsessively bringing it up in every other post and in most unrelated threads. I wonder why that is...


We aren't scared of Democrats. You guys will shoot yourselves in the foot like you do before every election. It's like clockwork.

http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/%7BC78433D9-F74B-4DD0-B038-B97457E0B86D%7D.gif


Well, when Democrats were in power, that was true, but it seems the target shoe is on the other foot these days.;)

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Well, lets see, you're a Republican presumably, and you're the one obsessively bringing it up in every other post and in most unrelated threads. I wonder why that is...




Well, when Democrats were in power, that was true, but it seems the target shoe is on the other foot these days.;)

Nick do you read all the posts on this forum, or just mine?

How about FORD's, Hardrock's...?

You're as blind as a fucking bat if you think I bring it up in every other post.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Nick do you read all the posts on this forum, or just mine?

How about FORD's, Hardrock's...?

You're as blind as a fucking bat if you think I bring it up in every other post.

Not recently...

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Not recently...

Figures...

Do some research before you fire that pea shooter.

That search function comes in handy.

[Warham]

There were 47 threads with the word 'chimpeachment' in them, many in the subject line. 38 were started by liberals here.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
There were 47 threads with the word 'chimpeachment' in them, many in the subject line. 38 were started by liberals here.

Yeah, but only 7 of those threads were actually "Chimpeachment" threads.

Once again, Republicans distort the facts. :(

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD

Once again, Republicans distort the facts. :(

Sorry, but "highjacking" a thread with facts isn't distorting them.

Hmmmm, let's see, right off memory a certain thread comes to mind like, "See those two shiny things on the wing just before the jet hits the tower? those are missiles".

I can't remember who it was, and it's close to being a quote of someone, geeee, who was that, Ford?
I bet you know him...probably really well too...why in fact, i bet you've shared a beer with him, drank from the same can even, lol.

I almost don't know what's worse, distorting facts or just plain fabricating them.

Just as a reminder, those two shiny things were called "jet engines"....and though it may be a wild guess...i'd venture a guess that most "jets" have them. :)

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Uh...since the trial isn't expected to get underway until at least january of 2007, that would be most highly unlikely...

(And there's a 50-50 chance that Libby's lawyers will be savvy enough to get this whole thing thrown out by continued requests for classified information, which the White house won;t submit and then the judge will be forced to declare a mistrial)

BTW, take a look at this...



and then look at this...



far as i can tell, the only real difference with these two statements is one was made by me, the other by someone who has been here for a long time and is a mod.

So, go ahead, Hard Rock, call Cathdral a dumbass. Come on, tough guy, tell him to fuck off.

Oooo, I don't agree with Hard Rock. Even though I am informed, and I do draw my own conclusions, and I don't feel the need to post every fourth rate sub-relevant anti-Bush article on the web, noooo, that's not good enough. Guess instead of debate on the matter, I should just play along with your 3rd grade, frat boy mentality and sit here and be called a moron...

LMMFAO, you make me raff... :p

[Hardrock69]

Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Uh...since the trial isn't expected to get underway until at least january of 2007, that would be most highly unlikely...

(And there's a 50-50 chance that Libby's lawyers will be savvy enough to get this whole thing thrown out by continued requests for classified information, which the White house won;t submit and then the judge will be forced to declare a mistrial)

BTW, take a look at this...



and then look at this...



far as i can tell, the only real difference with these two statements is one was made by me, the other by someone who has been here for a long time and is a mod.

So, go ahead, Hard Rock, call Cathdral a dumbass. Come on, tough guy, tell him to fuck off.



Ok, as you wish (though I have no reason to bash him for anything he has said in this thread):

Cathedral? Fuck off, dumbass. :D

I dunno why the idiot wants me to say that, but I am gonna humour him.


Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE

Oooo, I don't agree with Hard Rock. Even though I am informed, and I do draw my own conclusions, and I don't feel the need to post every fourth rate sub-relevant anti-Bush article on the web, noooo, that's not good enough.

You are informed of what?
You support a terrorist....if you call that "informed " that is your problem.

You are correct.

It is not good enough to be an insane person.

Anyone with half a brain should aspire to intellectual pursuits, and should actually be able to make an informed decision about who they vote for.

Unfortunately, there are many people out there who, by supporting Terrorism In The White House, demonstrate their lack of intellect, and their inability to make an informed decision.



Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Guess instead of debate on the matter, I should just play along with your 3rd grade, frat boy mentality and sit here and be called a moron...


At least you can recognize that there actually is no debate on the matter amongst intellectuals.

Chimpy has to go.

If you are a sucker for abuse that is your problem.

Moron.

;)

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Figures...

Do some research before you fire that pea shooter.

That search function comes in handy.

No, I mean they haven't even brought it up in weeks, and I hardly think they represent the Democrats...

Again, this a more a Republican campaign issue to whip up their foolish base...

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Hard Rock -

Do you pay your taxes? Both income and everytime you buy anything retail? Then Bravo, big guy!!! You too support your so-called "terrorist"!!! Five stars!!!