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Nickdfresh
03-24-2006, 05:20 AM
Come on NEO CONS --rationalize this one!! These motherf'ers once traded with the TALIBAN!

Posted on Thu, Mar. 23, 2006

U.S. hiring Hong Kong co. (with ties to the Communist party & People's Liberation Army!) to scan nukes

TED BRIDIS and JOHN SOLOMON
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - In the aftermath of the Dubai ports dispute, the Bush administration is hiring a Hong Kong conglomerate to help detect nuclear materials inside cargo passing through the Bahamas to the United States and elsewhere.

The administration acknowledges the no-bid contract with Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. represents the first time a foreign company will be involved in running a sophisticated U.S. radiation detector at an overseas port without American customs agents present.

Freeport in the Bahamas is 65 miles from the U.S. coast, where cargo would be likely to be inspected again. The contract is currently being finalized.

The administration is negotiating a second no-bid contract for a Philippine company to install radiation detectors in its home country, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. At dozens of other overseas ports, foreign governments are primarily responsible for scanning cargo.

While President Bush recently reassured Congress that foreigners would not manage security at U.S. ports, the Hutchison deal in the Bahamas illustrates how the administration is relying on foreign companies at overseas ports to safeguard cargo headed to the United States.

Hutchison Whampoa is the world's largest ports operator and among the industry's most-respected companies. It was an early adopter of U.S. anti-terror measures. But its billionaire chairman, Li Ka-Shing, also has substantial business ties to China's government that have raised U.S. concerns over the years.

"Li Ka-Shing is pretty close to a lot of senior leaders of the Chinese government and the Chinese Communist Party," said Larry M. Wortzel, head of a U.S. government commission that studies China security and economic issues. But Wortzel said Hutchison operates independently from Beijing, and he described Li as "a very legitimate international businessman."

"One can conceive legitimate security concerns and would hope either the Homeland Security Department or the intelligence services of the United States work very hard to satisfy those concerns," Wortzel said.

Three years ago, the Bush administration effectively blocked a Hutchison subsidiary from buying part of a bankrupt U.S. telecommunications company, Global Crossing Ltd., on national security grounds.

And a U.S. military intelligence report, once marked "secret," cited Hutchison in 1999 as a potential risk for smuggling arms and other prohibited materials into the United States from the Bahamas.

Hutchison's port operations in the Bahamas and Panama "could provide a conduit for illegal shipments of technology or prohibited items from the West to the PRC (People's Republic of China), or facilitate the movement of arms and other prohibited items into the Americas," the now-declassified assessment said.

The CIA currently has no security concerns about Hutchison's port operations, and the administration believes the pending deal with the foreign company would be safe, officials said.

Supervised by Bahamian customs officials, Hutchison employees will drive the towering, truck-like radiation scanner that moves slowly over large cargo containers and scans them for radiation that might be emitted by plutonium or a radiological weapon.

Any positive reading would set off alarms monitored simultaneously by Bahamian customs inspectors at Freeport and by U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials working at an anti-terrorism center 800 miles away in northern Virginia. Any alarm would prompt a closer inspection of the cargo, and there are multiple layers of security to prevent tampering, officials said.

"The equipment operates itself," said Bryan Wilkes, a spokesman for the U.S. National Nuclear Security Administration, the agency negotiating the contract. "It's not going to be someone standing at the controls pressing buttons and flipping switches."

A lawmaker who helped lead the opposition to the Dubai ports deal isn't so confident. Neither are some security experts. They question whether the U.S. should pay a foreign company with ties to China to keep radioactive material out of the United States.

"Giving a no-bid contract to a foreign company to carry out the most sensitive security screening for radioactive materials at ports abroad raises many questions," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

A low-paid employee with access to the screening equipment could frustrate international security by studying how the equipment works and which materials set off its alarms, warned a retired U.S. Customs investigator who specialized in smuggling cases.

"Money buys a lot of things," Robert Sheridan said. "The fact that foreign workers would have access to how the United States screens various containers for nuclear material and how this technology scrutinizes the containers - all those things allow someone with a nefarious intention to thwart the screening."

Other experts discounted concerns. They cited Hutchison's reputation as a leading ports company and said the United States inevitably must rely for some security on large commercial operators in the global maritime industry.

"We must not allow an unwarranted fear of foreign ownership or involvement in offshore operations to impair our ability to protect against nuclear weapons being smuggled into this country," said Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., a member of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. "We must work with these foreign companies."

A former Coast Guard commander, Stephen Flynn, said foreign companies sometimes prove more trustworthy - and susceptible to U.S. influence - than governments.

"It's a very fragile system," Flynn said. Foreign companies "recognize the U.S. has the capacity and willingness to exercise a kill switch if something goes wrong."

A spokesman for Hutchison's ports subsidiary, Anthony Tam, said the company "is a strong supporter in port security initiatives."

"In the case of the Bahamas, our local personnel are working alongside with U.S. customs officials to identify and inspect U.S.-bound containers that could be carrying radioactive materials," Tam said.

However, there are no U.S. customs agents checking any cargo containers at the Hutchison port in Freeport. Under the contract, no U.S. officials would be stationed permanently in the Bahamas with the radiation scanner.

The administration is finalizing the contract amid a national debate over maritime security sparked by the furor over now-abandoned plans by Dubai-owned DP World to take over significant operations at major U.S. ports.

Hutchison operates the sprawling Freeport Container Port on Grand Bahama Island. Its subsidiary, Hutchison Port Holdings, has operations in more than 20 countries but none in the United States.

Contract documents, obtained by The Associated Press, indicate Hutchison will be paid roughly $6 million. The contract is for one year with options for three years.

The Energy Department's National Nuclear Security Administration is negotiating the Bahamas contract under a $121 million security program it calls the "second line of defense." Wilkes, the NNSA spokesman, said the Bahamian government dictated that the U.S. give the contract to Hutchison.

"It's their country, their port. The driver of the mobile carrier is the contractor selected by their government. We had no say or no choice," he said. "We are fortunate to have allies who are signing these agreements with us."

Some security experts said that is a weak explanation in the Bahamas, with its close reliance on the United States. The administration could insist that the Bahamas permit U.S. Customs agents to operate at the port, said Albert Santoli, an expert on national security issues in Asia and the Pacific.

"Why would they not accept that?" said Santoli, a former national security aide to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif. "There is an interest in the Bahamas and every other country in the region to make sure the U.S. stays safe and strong. That's how this should be negotiated."

Flynn, the former Coast Guard commander, agreed the Bahamas would readily accept such a proposal but said the U.S. is short of trained customs agents to send overseas.

Contract documents obtained by the AP show at least one other foreign company is involved in the U.S. radiation-detection program.

A separate, no-bid $4 million contract the Bush administration is negotiating would pay a Manila-based company, International Container Terminal Services Inc., to install radiation detectors at the Philippines' largest port.

The U.S. says the Manila company is not being paid to operate the radiation monitors once they are installed. But two International Container executives and a senior official at the government's Philippine Nuclear Research Institute said the company will run the detectors on behalf of the institute and the country's customs bureau. U.S. officials said they will investigate further how the Filipinos plan to use the equipment.

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Associated Press writers Bill Foreman in Hong Kong and Jim Gomez in Manila contributed to this story.

© 2006 AP Wire (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/14169965.htm) and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.

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Nickdfresh
03-24-2006, 05:27 AM
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Keep us safe girl!

Warham
03-24-2006, 06:53 AM
Before you blow your wad prematurely Nick, please re-read this sentence...

"Freeport in the Bahamas is 65 miles from the U.S. coast, where cargo would be likely to be inspected again."

1. It's Freeport in the Bahamas.

2. It'll be inspected again in a US Port.

Warham
03-24-2006, 06:54 AM
And this sentence is interesting:

"At dozens of other overseas ports, foreign governments are primarily responsible for scanning cargo."

Cathedral
03-24-2006, 09:14 AM
China has been operating american ports for years on our soil, why all of a sudden is this shocking to you, Nick?
And as it says, this deal effects operations that are miles away from our soil.

It's the same organization, and China is a Communist nation to begin with.

Personally, I've had issue with any foreign entities running anything on our ports for many years. You act as if this is a new thing.
And more importantly, you act as if it is a G.W. Bush thing.

But hey, i understand though, when the rest of the herd starts bleating it makes sense just to bleat along with them, right?

I mean afterall, you don't want to come across as an independant among the flock, right?

Take a Xanax and have a beer. :)

BITEYOASS
03-24-2006, 10:33 AM
Trust me, China is also having problems with muslims in their country also.

Nickdfresh
03-24-2006, 10:36 AM
LOL I knew somebody would defend this...:D

Yeah, it's only 65-miles away. But of course, they can still collect intelligence on us...

Oh yeah, did I mention that this companies "owner" has significant ties to Chinese Intelligence/PLA and possibly infiltrators that could collect data and even potentially give it to terrorists? I mean, after all, these guys are only in bed with Iran, Sudan, and used to sell weapons to the Taliban too...

Nickdfresh
03-24-2006, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral
China has been operating american ports for years on our soil, why all of a sudden is this shocking to you, Nick?...

So they should operate more??? I thought it was a different world after 9/11, and we were "at war©" and stuff...

Shouldn't we discussing creating an agency to to this stuff? Or expanding the capabilities to existing agencies? You know, giving Americans the contracts?


Take a Xanax and have a beer. :)

Sounds good. What's that like?

Phil theStalker
03-24-2006, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
LOL I knew somebody would defend this...:D

Yeah, it's only 65-miles away. But of course, they can still collect intelligence on us...

Oh yeah, did I mention that this companies "owner" has significant ties to Chinese Intelligence/PLA and possibly infiltrators that could collect data and even potentially give it to terrorists? I mean, after all, these guys are only in bed with Iran, Sudan, and used to sell weapons to the Taliban too...
Nickdfresh,

R U ready t2o fight a war at home?

50 - 100 dead a day in Iraq defines civil war t2o Iraqis.

Yoo doon't need any uniforms of gray or blue t2o have civil war.

R U ready?


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Nickdfresh
03-24-2006, 10:51 AM
I'm a wuss PHIL. I just stick with the pen over the sword until they round me up...

Phil theStalker
03-24-2006, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
So they should operate more??? I thought it was a different world after 9/11, and we were "at war©" and stuff...

Shouldn't we discussing creating an agency to to this stuff? Or expanding the capabilities to existing agencies? You know, giving Americans the contracts?



Sounds good. What's that like?
I THOUGHT THIS!

BOY WAS I WRONG, AND SO WERE MANY AMERICAN SERVICEMEN WHO DIED FIGHTING COMMUNISM AND THE OTHER MILLIONS OF VETS WHO SERVED THAT CAUSE.

WE WERE ALL WRONG!

Remember all the wars we fought to beat back communism? Remember the THOUSANDS UPON TEN THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN SERVICEMEN WHO DIED FIGHTING COMMUNISM? WHY ARE WE HELPING THE COMMUNIST FUCKING CHINESE WITH OUR TRADE POLICIES? WHY DO THEY OWN THE MOST IMPORTANT WATER ROUTE ON OUR CONTINENT? WHY DO THEY OWN THE ONLY DEEP WATER PORT ON THE WEST COAST? CORPORATE SLUGS GETTING FAT OFF OF ENABLING RED CHINA ARE SICK FUCKS. ALL THOSE SERVICEMEN WHO DIED ON SOME FOREIGN DUNG HEAP FOR YOU SONS OF SATAN TO SELL US OUT TO THE ENEMY.

It's the same bunch, families, and stockholders. They were formerly called Internationalist corporations during the Vietnam war. Now they are calling themselves GLOBALISTS. And as if they OWNED you they are telling you that you are a globalist, too. They're telling you that you are a GLOBAL citizen and a GLOBAL worker competing for their made up global jobs. They are implementing this by a formulated plan. And they're teaching this to your children in their schools. The plan is for GLOBAL trade first and GLOBAL 'world government' second, ultimately leading to global domination of the human population of the earth by a small group of global elite made up of bankers and powerful international corporations. Your own politicians in any land has been touched by this plan. Even the high office of the President of the United States has the consecutive presidents from either party, liberal or conservative, following this GLOBAL plan. This plan for control and domination over the whole planet and human race has been set into motion by the Internationalist corporations and world banks.

You're doomed if you don't realize this first, everybody.

Godspeed, folks.

Good luck.



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Phil theStalker
03-24-2006, 11:44 AM
You see the globalists plan at work today in Iraq.

Click here to see the plan at work---> http://nobravery.cf.huffingtonpost.com

9/11 was just a pretext (pretext=lie) to launch these wars.

These wars are being fought for a globalist plan to replace Eurasain governments into ones friendly to the global takeover of the planet.

Eurasia is defined as lands East of Germany which includes Warsaw and Moscow all of the way to Peking/Bejing.

The Middle East wars are a prelude to this global plan of toppling Eurasian governments and replacing them with ones who will support and carry out the plans of the globalists.

And you thought it was about 9/11 and protecting the American people.

After all, they tell you that everyday. From the press secretaries right to the globalist President's own treasonous lips when they say repeatedly to you, as though they are catapulting the propaganda, "We're making these moves to 'protect the American people'."

LIES!

All lies.

Pretext.

Lies and pretext for wars and more wars.

Yeh, have that birthday party, watch that music video, follow that college basketball game. Walk away and pretend that you don't know.


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Phil theStalker
03-24-2006, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I'm a wuss PHIL. I just stick with the pen over the sword until they round me up...
You're being flanked right now, scribe.


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Phil theStalker
03-24-2006, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
China has been operating american ports for years on our soil, why all of a sudden is this shocking to you, Nick?
And as it says, this deal effects operations that are miles away from our soil.

It's the same organization, and China is a Communist nation to begin with.

Personally, I've had issue with any foreign entities running anything on our ports for many years. You act as if this is a new thing.
And more importantly, you act as if it is a G.W. Bush thing.

But hey, i understand though, when the rest of the herd starts bleating it makes sense just to bleat along with them, right?

I mean afterall, you don't want to come across as an independant among the flock, right?

Take a Xanax and have a beer. :)
It's not "all of a sudden" for me (I can't speak f4or Nick).

I've NEVER been in support of Communist China. And I never will be in support of China until China is FREE! Not COMMUNIST.

Damn you, ignorant fools.

Damn you!

NICK---> See Nick, that is why I see civil war as the only answer the people will have in the end to solve our current NATIONAL (not GLOBAL) problems and our future problems in the face of this huge ignorance, or treason, by people such as these. D'you have another answer, buddy? huh

Read your history AGAIN.

It's ignorance like his that leads to the killings and the wars!


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EAT MY ASSHOLE
03-24-2006, 01:19 PM
Dudes, we've been handing this country over to China for years now. This is any different????

Hardrock69
03-24-2006, 01:54 PM
Different or no is irrelevant.

It needs to be stopped.

We could easily erase unemployument in this country by giving such jobs to AMERICANS.

Nickdfresh
03-24-2006, 01:57 PM
Maybe people will begin to wake the fuck up? Naw!

FORD
03-24-2006, 02:02 PM
http://www.usccc.org/newhome/mem-8.jpg
George Bush Sr., Siva Yam, President of Us-China Chamber of Commerce and Prescott Bush Jr., Chairman

This has been BCE policy since the 1970's when Poppy "opened" China for Nixon. And with all the money BCE/Carlyle has tied up in Asia, they ain't leaving.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
03-24-2006, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69

We could easily erase unemployument in this country by giving such jobs to AMERICANS.

Uhhhh....suuuuure...if only those pesky ports were in middle america where a great deal of the national unemployment is...

Phil theStalker
03-24-2006, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Uhhhh....suuuuure...if only those pesky ports were in middle america where a great deal of the national unemployment is...
Didn't American workers come from all across America with their families to build the Hoover Dam?


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UNEMPLOYMENT MAGNET

Cathedral
03-24-2006, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
So they should operate more??? I thought it was a different world after 9/11, and we were "at war©" and stuff...

Shouldn't we discussing creating an agency to to this stuff? Or expanding the capabilities to existing agencies? You know, giving Americans the contracts?



Sounds good. What's that like?

I didn't say that, Nick. I don't support any foreign country operating our ports.

And xanax is great for helping one to relax and chill the fuck out.
A beer chaser just intensifies it's effect.

I get mine by prescription along with all my other meds, but i don't take them often.
Only when needed, and buddy, sometimes you act like you need it.

Warham
03-24-2006, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
Different or no is irrelevant.

It needs to be stopped.

We could easily erase unemployument in this country by giving such jobs to AMERICANS.

You're never going to erase unemployment as long as humanity exist.

Warham
03-24-2006, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
I didn't say that, Nick. I don't support any foreign country operating our ports.

And xanax is great for helping one to relax and chill the fuck out.
A beer chaser just intensifies it's effect.

I get mine by prescription along with all my other meds, but i don't take them often.
Only when needed, and buddy, sometimes you act like you need it.

Xanax does work wonders, even in minute doses.. :D

Cathedral
03-24-2006, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Warham
You're never going to erase unemployment as long as humanity exist.

Well, you could knock a dent in it by getting rid of the lazy bastards that spend all day on the computer when they should be out working.

When i was playing out all the time my girlfriend was always bitching because i didn't have a day job...but i made more than she did every week.
She was just pissed that i got paid to play guitar and she hated her job, lol.

She turned out to be a cheatin whore anyway so i was happy to let her go.

Nickdfresh
03-24-2006, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Xanax does work wonders, even in minute doses.. :D

I'm not big on drugs...

But if you're mentally ill and completely unbalanced, by all means...

Warham
03-25-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I'm not big on drugs...

But if you're mentally ill and completely unbalanced, by all means...

That's brushing with an awfully wide stroke, isn't it, Nick?

Cathedral
03-25-2006, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I'm not big on drugs...

But if you're mentally ill and completely unbalanced, by all means...

Was that a slam?
Thanks, my so-called friend, I apreciate that comment coming from you.

Be careful, you are at risk of a nose bleed being on such a high horse.

Nickdfresh
03-26-2006, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral
Was that a slam?
Thanks, my so-called friend, I apreciate that comment coming from you.

Be careful, you are at risk of a nose bleed being on such a high horse.

I didn't mean anything by it...