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BigBadBrian
03-29-2006, 09:39 PM
Truants Could Face Fines, Community Service

POSTED: 6:57 am PST March 28, 2006
UPDATED: 10:07 am PST March 29, 2006

LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles law enforcement officials plan to crack down on students who leave campus Wednesday by issuing truancy citations. LA School Superintendent Roy Romer says students leaving campus will be automatically considered truant.

Truant students could face discipline ranging from suspension to exclusion from certain school-sponsored functions. Students who are cited by law enforcement officers can face fines up to 200 dollars and 20 days of community service.

Despite school lockdowns and rainy weather, some 11,000 students from nearly two dozen Los Angeles County campuses skipped school Tuesday as immigrant-rights rallies continued, leading to some arrests.

About 8,000 students from the Los Angeles Unified School District and 3,000 students from other schools countywide took part in protests Tuesday, or at least did not show up for class, LAUSD Superintendent Roy Romer said.

"It's one thing to have a spontaneous demonstration of free speech, but it's another to have continued absences," Romer said during a City Hall news conference Tuesday afternoon. "A parent has a legal obligation to have their youngsters in school."

"It's one thing to have a spontaneous demonstration of free speech, but it's another to have continued absences."
- LAUSD Superintendent Roy Romer

"Our first priority is to keep our kids safe, that they need to be back in school," Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said after meeting with Romer, Bratton and Sheriff Lee Baca this afternoon. "And it's important for parents to understand that beginning today we will be strictly applying our truancy laws."

The students have been marching in opposition to a House bill, passed in December, cracking down on illegal immigration, making it a federal offense to enter or remain in the country illegally. The U.S. Senate is debating immigration legislation this week.

Baca said adults were the likely masterminds behind the protests and warned they would be prosecuted if their identities are uncovered. Villaraigosa said it remained unclear Tuesday who coordinated the school walkouts.

The protests, led to some tense moments outside Carson High School, where about 200 to 300 students rallied and some clashed with sheriff's deputies.

Sgt. Nick Burns of the Compton Sheriff's Station said three juveniles were arrested. He said he did not know if they were Carson High School students or from other schools.

One was arrested for battery on a peace officer, another for resisting a peace officer and the third for disorderly conduct, he said.

In San Pedro, about 500 students marched along a stretch of the Harbor (110) Freewayleading toward the Vincent Thomas Bridge, Bratton said. Police managed to herd the youths off the freeway before they reached the bridge and cited about 100 of them for truancy.

An additional 2,000 students participated in protests in front of the Van Nuys courthouse, Bratton said.

"Their actions are causing a strain on the police department's ability to respond to emergency and non-emergency calls," Bratton said.

The student protests are also putting a strain on school district finances. Romer said districts receive state funding of about $28 per day per student who attends school. With about 8,000 students absent today, the protests cost the LAUSD roughly $224,000.


Walkouts Monday involved about 36,000 students from various districts -- a cost of about $1 million.

Tuesday's lesson plans were also adjusted to include a discussion of the immigration bill introduced by Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., which would crack down on employers hiring illegal workers and people smuggling illegal immigrants into the country.

The class discussions also addressed freedom of speech, civil protests and events in U.S. history that have involved public protests, according to a district statement.

The Sensenbrenner bill, HR 4437, would require employers to verify Social Security numbers with the Department of Homeland Security, increase penalities for immigrant smuggling and stiffen penalities for undocumented immigrants who reenter the United States after having been removed.

Under the bill, approved last December by the House of Representatives, local law enforcement agencies would be reimbursed for detaining illegal immigrants. Refugees with aggravated felony convictions would also be barred from receiving green cards.

The U.S. Senate's Judiciary Committee softened the immigration reform bill yesterday by voting to create a path for some of the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants to become citizens without first leaving the country.

Under the version voted on by the committee, additional foreign workers would be allowed to enter the United States temporarily under a program that also could lead to citizenship.

Additionally, the committee adopted an amendment by Sen Richard Durbin, D- Ill., that would protect charitable organizations and churches from criminal charges for providing aid to illegal immigrants.

Link (http://www.nbc4.tv/education/8312992/detail.html)

BigBadBrian
03-30-2006, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian


The protests, led to some tense moments outside Carson High School, where about 200 to 300 students rallied and some clashed with sheriff's deputies.



Suspend them all.

:gun:

ULTRAMAN VH
03-30-2006, 10:49 AM
Yeah, when the tool Mayor asked them to return to school, they chanted Hell No We Won't Go!!

BigBadBrian
03-30-2006, 03:42 PM
It's their right to choose to skip school if they want.

However, that, like anything, has its consequences.

No tests missed that day except for valid reasons (illness, funerals, family member ill, etc.) would be allowed to be made up.

Quiz scores = 0

Homework not handed in on time = 0

The students would be still responsible for obtaining any class notes they missed. The teachers wouldn't have to provide them of course.

That is completely fair.

Agreed?


:cool:

Ally_Kat
03-31-2006, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's their right to choose to skip school if they want.

However, that, like anything, has its consequences.

No tests missed that day except for valid reasons (illness, funerals, family member ill, etc.) would be allowed to be made up.

Quiz scores = 0

Homework not handed in on time = 0

The students would be still responsible for obtaining any class notes they missed. The teachers wouldn't have to provide them of course.

That is completely fair.

Agreed?


:cool:

100%

But as far as suspensions go, you need to do it the Catholic school route -- inschool, in a room where your buddies can't pass you, handwriting a 20-page paper reflecting on your actions: why you decided to do them, was it good or band in hindsight, what consequences further down the road could these lead to, and were there any better ways to handle the situation. And if you didn't finish it during school hours, you do it for homework.

Ally_Kat
03-31-2006, 04:01 PM
Teachers, students find lessons in walkouts

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Teachers and students are turning the pro-immigration walkouts that have emptied high schools across Southern California into a real-life lesson about immigration policy, the lawmaking process and civic duty itself.

"So do you think yesterday was a good thing or a bad thing?" teacher Christian Quintero asked his social studies class about Monday's walkout, which involved an estimated 36,000 students in Los Angeles County, including many from Belmont High, where he teaches.

"A good thing!" a boy in the back shouted.

"Why?"

"Because we let them know what's up," the boy said.

Students in the Los Angeles school system -- which is the nation's second-largest district and is 73 percent Hispanic -- have walked out of class along with thousands of other young people in other U.S. cities over the past few days to protest legislation on Capitol Hill that would crack down on the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants.

Among other things, the legislation would make it a crime to be in this country illegally.

The morning was relatively quiet in the Los Angeles district after two days of protests that began with blocked freeways and pleas from the mayor to go back to class, and escalated Tuesday to school lockdowns and scores of truancy citations.

In classrooms and halls, students debated whether the protests were effective and whether leaving class was the right thing to do.

Turning life into lessons
Some teachers seized the opportunity to make the connection between the textbook and real life. Some offered lessons on how a bill becomes law. In one school, lunchtime morphed into a forum on immigration policy.

"There is an opportunity to take this and fold it into what students are learning in their government, history and civics classes," said district spokeswoman Susan Cox.

The principal at Belmont told teachers to let students talk freely about the walkouts but to stress "the merits of being in school and continuing with their studies to make a difference."

Keeping youngsters in class also helps the 746,000-student district, which because of the walkouts stands to lose more than $500,000 in state money that is based on attendance.

Ernesto Torres, a 10th-grade history teacher, fielded questions about legislation working its way through Congress.

Why is the government targeting immigrants? one student asked.

Torres asked the 18-year-old whether he registered to vote. When the student said no, Torres responded, "That's why."

The students were surprised to learn theirs was not the first mass student protest in Los Angeles history. Torres told them about the landmark 1968 Chicano walkouts to protest poor conditions in East Los Angeles.

"You are a part of history now," Torres said.

Several protests continued Wednesday. In the southern San Joaquin Valley, up to 1,800 students snarled traffic in Bakersfield. In San Diego, more than 1,000 students staged walkouts.

In Texas, hundreds of high school students in El Paso marched toward the Mexican border, despite threats they would be suspended for leaving classes.

Similar protests also were staged in Arizona and Tennessee.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/03/30/immigration.students.ap/index.html

Ally_Kat
03-31-2006, 04:03 PM
1. I guess they're not going to learn consequences. That's what's half wrong with the education system in this country -- kids don't care and aren't given a reason to care.

2. Isn't it already a crime to be in this country illegally? Hence the word illegally.

jhale667
03-31-2006, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's their right to choose to skip school if they want.

However, that, like anything, has its consequences.

No tests missed that day except for valid reasons (illness, funerals, family member ill, etc.) would be allowed to be made up.

Quiz scores = 0

Homework not handed in on time = 0

The students would be still responsible for obtaining any class notes they missed. The teachers wouldn't have to provide them of course.

That is completely fair.

Agreed?


:cool:

Agreed. I'd go one step farther and (heavily) fine their lame-ass parents....

WACF
03-31-2006, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's their right to choose to skip school if they want.

However, that, like anything, has its consequences.



Consequences seem to be something of the past.

I would love to see an increased importance placed on personal responsibilty in the education system, justice system and in society as a whole.
Not enough people are being called to account for their actions, and most have figured out that they can place the blame for their actions on the current crutch of the month whether it be alcohol, drugs, illiteracy, not liking have to follow rules, poor upbringing, their mommy didn't love them, or just plain ugliness.

Ally_Kat
03-31-2006, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by jhale667
Agreed. I'd go one step farther and (heavily) fine their lame-ass parents....

But in high school it's not so much the parents. It is mainly the kids at that level.

jcook11
03-31-2006, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
1. I guess they're not going to learn consequences. That's what's half wrong with the education system in this country -- kids don't care and aren't given a reason to care.

2. Isn't it already a crime to be in this country illegally? Hence the word illegally.

Damn I don't believe it someone with some actual COMMON SENSE!

matt19
03-31-2006, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Truants Could Face Fines, Community Service

POSTED: 6:57 am PST March 28, 2006
UPDATED: 10:07 am PST March 29, 2006

LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles law enforcement officials plan to crack down on students who leave campus Wednesday by issuing truancy citations. LA School Superintendent Roy Romer says students leaving campus will be automatically considered truant.

Truant students could face discipline ranging from suspension to exclusion from certain school-sponsored functions. Students who are cited by law enforcement officers can face fines up to 200 dollars and 20 days of community service.

Despite school lockdowns and rainy weather, some 11,000 students from nearly two dozen Los Angeles County campuses skipped school Tuesday as immigrant-rights rallies continued, leading to some arrests.

About 8,000 students from the Los Angeles Unified School District and 3,000 students from other schools countywide took part in protests Tuesday, or at least did not show up for class, LAUSD Superintendent Roy Romer said.

"It's one thing to have a spontaneous demonstration of free speech, but it's another to have continued absences," Romer said during a City Hall news conference Tuesday afternoon. "A parent has a legal obligation to have their youngsters in school."

"It's one thing to have a spontaneous demonstration of free speech, but it's another to have continued absences."
- LAUSD Superintendent Roy Romer

"Our first priority is to keep our kids safe, that they need to be back in school," Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said after meeting with Romer, Bratton and Sheriff Lee Baca this afternoon. "And it's important for parents to understand that beginning today we will be strictly applying our truancy laws."

The students have been marching in opposition to a House bill, passed in December, cracking down on illegal immigration, making it a federal offense to enter or remain in the country illegally. The U.S. Senate is debating immigration legislation this week.

Baca said adults were the likely masterminds behind the protests and warned they would be prosecuted if their identities are uncovered. Villaraigosa said it remained unclear Tuesday who coordinated the school walkouts.

The protests, led to some tense moments outside Carson High School, where about 200 to 300 students rallied and some clashed with sheriff's deputies.

Sgt. Nick Burns of the Compton Sheriff's Station said three juveniles were arrested. He said he did not know if they were Carson High School students or from other schools.

One was arrested for battery on a peace officer, another for resisting a peace officer and the third for disorderly conduct, he said.

In San Pedro, about 500 students marched along a stretch of the Harbor (110) Freewayleading toward the Vincent Thomas Bridge, Bratton said. Police managed to herd the youths off the freeway before they reached the bridge and cited about 100 of them for truancy.

An additional 2,000 students participated in protests in front of the Van Nuys courthouse, Bratton said.

"Their actions are causing a strain on the police department's ability to respond to emergency and non-emergency calls," Bratton said.

The student protests are also putting a strain on school district finances. Romer said districts receive state funding of about $28 per day per student who attends school. With about 8,000 students absent today, the protests cost the LAUSD roughly $224,000.


Walkouts Monday involved about 36,000 students from various districts -- a cost of about $1 million.

Tuesday's lesson plans were also adjusted to include a discussion of the immigration bill introduced by Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., which would crack down on employers hiring illegal workers and people smuggling illegal immigrants into the country.

The class discussions also addressed freedom of speech, civil protests and events in U.S. history that have involved public protests, according to a district statement.

The Sensenbrenner bill, HR 4437, would require employers to verify Social Security numbers with the Department of Homeland Security, increase penalities for immigrant smuggling and stiffen penalities for undocumented immigrants who reenter the United States after having been removed.

Under the bill, approved last December by the House of Representatives, local law enforcement agencies would be reimbursed for detaining illegal immigrants. Refugees with aggravated felony convictions would also be barred from receiving green cards.

The U.S. Senate's Judiciary Committee softened the immigration reform bill yesterday by voting to create a path for some of the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants to become citizens without first leaving the country.

Under the version voted on by the committee, additional foreign workers would be allowed to enter the United States temporarily under a program that also could lead to citizenship.

Additionally, the committee adopted an amendment by Sen Richard Durbin, D- Ill., that would protect charitable organizations and churches from criminal charges for providing aid to illegal immigrants.

Link (http://www.nbc4.tv/education/8312992/detail.html)

LMFAO fuck all of them they missed school so they miss work so they fucking fail.

jcook11
03-31-2006, 04:56 PM
There was report tha came out recently that about 75% of the seniors in the L.A. unified school district can't pass the exit exam to get their diploma, This exam is basically 8th grade level math english and reading.

jhale667
03-31-2006, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
But in high school it's not so much the parents. It is mainly the kids at that level.

Yeah, but the kids GOT that way because of parental lameness, so they should be penalized as well. When I was in H.S. I didn't skip A) Because it would have been my ASS if the 'rents found out, and B) ---as you know, Ally---Catholic schools don't put up with that shit. I would have been FAILED after a certain number of missed days... ;)