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MSRNC is reporting that indicted felon and ex- House Majority Leader Tom Delay has withdrawn from the 2006 election.
More details to come...
More bastards to fall....
CNN and FAUX now picking up story. no details yet....
Monday, Apr. 03, 2006
Tom DeLay Says He Will Give Up His Seat
The embattled former Republican leader tells TIME that he will leave Congress and not seek reelection
By MIKE ALLEN/SUGAR LAND, TEXAS
Rep. Tom DeLay, whose iron hold on the House Republicans melted as a lobbying corruption scandal engulfed the Capitol, told TIME that he will not seek reelection and will leave Congress within months. Taking defiant swipes at "the left" and the press, he said he feels "liberated" and vowed to pursue an aggressive speaking and organizing campaign aimed at promoting foster care, Republican candidates and a closer connection between religion and government. :rolleyes:
"I'm going to announce tomorrow that I'm not running for reelection and that I'm going to leave Congress," DeLay, who turns 59 on Saturday, said during a 90-minute interview on Monday. "I'm very much at peace with it." He notified President Bush in the afternoon. DeLay and his wife, Christine, said they had been prepared to fight, but that he decided last Wednesday, after months of prayer and contemplation, to spare his suburban Houston district the mudfest to come. "This had become a referendum on me," he said. "So it's better for me to step aside and let it be a referendum on ideas, Republican values and what's important for this district."
DeLay's fall has been stunningly swift, one of the most brutal and decisive in American history. He had to give up his title of Majority Leader, the No. 2 spot in the House Republican leadership, in September when a Texas grand jury indicted him on charges of trying to evade the state's election law. So he moved out of his palatial suite in the Capitol, where he once brandished a "No Whining" mug during feisty weekly sessions with reporters, and moved across the street to the Cannon House Office Building, home of many freshmen.
The surprise decision was based on the sort of ruthless calculation that had once given him unchallenged dominance of House Republicans and their wealthy friends in Washington's lobbying community: he realized he might lose in this November's election. DeLay got a scare in a Republican primary last month, and a recent poll taken by his campaign gave him a roughly 50-50 shot of winning, in an election season when Republicans need every seat they can hang onto to avoid a Democratic takeover of the House.
"I'm a realist. I've been around awhile. I can evaluate political situations," DeLay told TIME at his kitchen table in Sugar Land, a former sugar plantation in suburban Houston. Bluebonnets are blooming along the highways. "I feel that I could have won the race. I just felt like I didn't want to risk the seat and that I can do more on the outside of the House than I can on the inside right now. I want to continue to fight for the conservative cause. I want to continue to work for a Republican majority."
Asked if he had done anything illegal or immoral in public office, DeLay replied curtly, "No." Asked if he'd done anything immoral, he said with a laugh, "We're all sinners." Asked what he would do differently, he said, "Nothing." He denied having failed to adequately supervise members of his staff, even though two of his former aides have pleaded guilty to committing crimes while on his staff. "Two people violated my trust over 21 years," he said. "I guarantee you if other offices were under the scrutiny I've been under in the last 10 years, with the Democrat Party announcing that they're going to destroy me, destroy my reputation, and that's how they're going to get rid of me, I guarantee you you're going to find, out of hundreds of people, somebody that's probably done something wrong."
DeLay brushed off the torrent of investigative news articles questioning the funding behind the golf, private planes and resort hotels that marked his travel at home and abroad. He even accepted a plane from R.J. Reynolds Tobacco to go to his arraignment. "There's nothing wrong with it," he said. "They had a plane available. My schedule was such that I couldn't do it commercially — that I had to get up there and then get back and do my job. And that's the only plane that was available at the time."
"You can't prove to me one thing that I have done for my own personal gain," he added. "Yes, I play golf. I'm very proud of the fact that I play golf. It's the only thing that I do for myself. And when you go to a country and you're there for seven days and you take an afternoon off to play golf, what does the national media write? All about the golf, not about the meeting that went to. I'm not ashamed of anything I've done. I've never done anything in my political career for my own personal gain. You can look at my bank account and my house to understand that."
"I don't care what history writes, " he continued. "What I care about, what's important to me is who I am, what I've done and what I can accomplish in the future. What I care about it what I believe in and how I conduct myself in fighting for what I believe in."
Appearing relaxed despite three cups of coffee, DeLay played with his petite dogs and led a leisurely tour of his home. Upstairs, he offered a frame-by-frame description of the photos reflecting his past political clout, such as a private session on the Truman Balcony with the President and First Lady Laura Bush. The first frame marks the beginning of his arc from pest-control entrepreneur to a feared and ingenious power broker. It's the front page from a local paper, the Herald-Coaster, from 1978, proclaiming, "DeLay Is House Winner." That was the Texas House; voters sent him to Washington six years later, starting him on a 21-year congressional career. During the tour, he gave an indication of his early deftness at the political game when he showed off a picture of his wife, Christine, and their daughter, Danielle, with President Ronald Reagan. "I had to withhold my vote," he said, "to get my daughter's picture with Ronald Reagan as a freshman." His wife, a formidable daily force in his office with a voice in nearly all scheduling and media decisions, pointed to a photo of former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, and noted, "That's when we thought she was going to be conservative."
Putting the best face on the poll taken by his campaign, DeLay said it gave him "a little bit better than a 50/50 chance of winning reelection." Asked if that didn't mean that he could lose, he replied, "Could have. There's no reason to risk a seat. This is a very strong Republican district. It's obvious to me that anybody but me running here will overwhelmingly win the seat."
DeLay said he is likely to leave by the end of May, depending on the Congressional schedule and finishing his work on a couple of issues. He said he will change his legal residence to his condominium in Alexandria, Va., from his modest two-story home on a golf course here in the 22nd District of Texas. "I become ineligible to run for election if I'm not a resident of the state of Texas," he said, turning election law to his purposes for perhaps on last time. State Republican officials will then be able to name another Republican candidate to face Democrat Nick Lampson, a former House members who lost his seat in a redistricting engineered by DeLay.
Lampson has made a major issue of the lobbying scandal, and his campaign home page has a petition headed, "Tell Tom DeLay to Return the Dirty Money!," referring to contributions from he and his political action committees have received from disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, a one-time DeLay ally who pleaded guilty in January to three felonies, including conspiring to defraud clients and bribe public officials.
DeLay's decision means that he no longer has to fear any further sanctions from the House ethics committee, which admonished him three times in 1994 for official conduct deemed inappropriate by members, but has been paralyzed for more than a year and has taken no action in the more recent scandal. Sources close to DeLay said he remains under investigation by the Justice Department prosecutors, who now have Abramoff's cooperation, but the lawmaker said he has nothing to fear from the feds. "I paid lawyers to investigate me as if they were prosecuting me," he said. "They found nothing. There is absolutely nothing — no connection with Jack Abramoff that is illegal, dishonest, unethical or against the House rules."
Richard Cullen, a former U.S. attorney who is DeLay's Washington lawyer, told TIME that in December, the lawmaker's legal team turned over to the Justice Department about 1,000 e-mails from his office computers. "This was to show we had nothing to hide," Cullen said. "They were everything we felt related to the Abramoff investigation. None are from DeLay. They're from staffers, showing their give and take with Abramoff. There was nothing that I said to myself or DeLay, wow, this is really bad for him. Prosecutors are looking to see whether anyone on the government payroll, whether a congressman or a staffer, performed official acts in return for a bribe or gratuity."
A Texas district attorney, Ronnie Earle of Travis County, indicted DeLay last year on money-laundering charges for transactions involving Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), a political action committee DeLay founded. Earle is a Democrat and DeLay has attacked the charges as "a political hit job." He says he did not personally carry out the transactions and that, in any case, they are standard practice for parties around the country. Regardless, DeLay was forced to vacate his post as majority leader because of a House Republican rule (known as "the DeLay rule," because it was enacted amid concern about his legal situation) that requires a leader under indictment to step down.
DeLay, a Baptist born in the border city of Laredo, said he "spent a lot of time" praying about his decision and that his personal relationship with Jesus drives his day-to-day actions. "My faith is who I am," he said. When DeLay was booked on the Texas charges, he wore his Congressional I.D. pin and flashed a broad smile designed to thwart Democrats who had hoped to make wide use of an image of a glowering DeLay. "I said a little prayer before I actually did the fingerprint thing, and the picture," he said. "My prayer was basically: 'Let people see Christ through me. And let me smile.' Now, when they took the shot, from my side, I thought it was fakiest smile I'd ever given. But through the camera, it was glowing. I mean, it had the right impact. Poor old left couldn't use it at all."
Recently, he said, he has been hearing from many people who want his help on projects outside Congress. He said his decision was cemented by the thunderous response at a conference in Washington last Wednesday decrying the "War on Christianity."
"You talk to a lot of people, give a lot of people opportunities to give you message," DeLay said. "If it's the wrong decision, doors don't open — they're closed to you, and you don't feel good about it, and you have doubts. Doors are opening already." He said he has no plans to write a book. "I'm not a very good writer, " he said. In what must be a relief to his many lawyers, he said he has not kept a diary.
Link (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1179853,00.html)
Good riddance to a piece of subhuman filth! :mad:
LoungeMachine
04-03-2006, 10:49 PM
Waiting for Warham to comment.
He claimed DeLay would retain his seat.
:cool:
Warham
04-03-2006, 10:50 PM
I claimed he would retain it if he actually ran again.
He took himself out of it.
It's for the best.
LoungeMachine
04-03-2006, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I claimed he would retain it if he actually ran again.
.
Really?
Originally posted by Warham
They must not be in too much of a hurry to get rid of DeLay down there.
He'll be re-elected this November.
Here's your EXACT quote in the DeLay primary thread.
You NEVER said anything in the thread about "if he actually runs"
Care to backpeddle now? Or just admit in one sentence you lied, or forgot what you actually posted.
:cool:
LoungeMachine
04-03-2006, 11:04 PM
HE'LL BE RE-ELECTED IN NOVEMBER
Where did you say "....if he actually runs" ?
Warham
04-03-2006, 11:06 PM
How can you be re-elected if you don't run, Lounge?
One presupposes another.
Don't try to get me into another arguement.
If he's changing his legal residence to Virginia, then he's obviously still going to be up to his buggy little eyes in the corruption. Probably taking over Jack 'Off's lobbying territory.
Either that, or (God forbid) Uncle Dick's going to "resign for health reasons" and the Chimp, in his typical form, will reward another criminal for failure in his past job and nominate Bugman..
Which would unfortunately kill any movement for Chimpeachment, but would guarantee such a landslide in 2008 that not even Diebold could steal it.
LoungeMachine
04-03-2006, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Warham
How can you be re-elected if you don't run, Lounge?
One presupposes another.
Don't try to get me into another arguement.
It's argument.:rolleyes:
And I'm just letting you prove my point.
You make claims, and when you are proven wrong, you backpeddle.
Warham
04-03-2006, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
It's argument.:rolleyes:
And I'm just letting you prove my point.
You make claims, and when you are proven wrong, you backpeddle.
::sigh::
You obviously don't know the definition of the word backpeddle.
Like I said, don't try it, cause I'm not going for the bait.
Like I said, it's for the best that he withdrew.
LoungeMachine
04-03-2006, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I claimed he would retain it if he actually ran again.
.
Lie #1 tonight.
Come on girls, this is a thread to celebrate the demise of one of the biggest pieces of shit to ever hold political office in this country.
Let's not ruin it.
Warham
04-03-2006, 11:18 PM
Amen, FORD.
Let's keep it on DeLay.
Little Texan
04-04-2006, 12:28 AM
I don't like how that asshole fucked up the district maps around here with his redistricting ploy. Dallas is a part of the district I'm in now, after redistricting, and I live like 150 miles east of Dallas! Thanks alot, dipshit!
Cathedral
04-04-2006, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by Warham
How can you be re-elected if you don't run, Lounge?
One presupposes another.
Don't try to get me into another arguement.
You won this argument before it even started anyway, War.
GAME-SET-MATCH!
Cathedral
04-04-2006, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
HE'LL BE RE-ELECTED IN NOVEMBER
Where did you say "....if he actually runs" ?
Whats wrong, panties a little too tight?
If you ever make a career out of splitting hairs...you'll do very well for yourself.
Cathedral
04-04-2006, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Tom Delay has withdrawn from the 2006 election.
GOOD!
BigBadBrian
04-04-2006, 08:27 AM
It's best for the Republican party as a whole.
The DemocRATS can't whine about the indictments come election time and try to use the same paintbrush to smear all Republicans.
:gulp:
Hardrock69
04-04-2006, 09:23 AM
Sure they can. Delay is a Republican, isn't he?
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
Sure they can. Delay is a Republican, isn't he?
So with this logic, Cynthia McKinney represents all Dems, so therefore all dems punch uniformed law enforcement officials?
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
It's best for the Republican party as a whole.
The DemocRATS can't whine about the indictments come election time and try to use the same paintbrush to smear all Republicans.
:gulp:
Oh I wouldn't say ALL Republicans....
I mean let's be honest. It's really only DeLay, Cunningham, Abramoff, Frist, the entire Republican party of Ohio and every last member of the BCE & PNAC.
The rest of them just haven't been caught yet. :cool:
Guitar Shark
04-04-2006, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Warham
::sigh::
You obviously don't know the definition of the word backpeddle.
Good, because there is no such word.
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Oh I wouldn't say ALL Republicans....
It's really only DeLay, Cunningham, Abramoff, Frist, the entire Republican party of Ohio and every last member of the BCE & PNAC.
Abramoff was not a politician...he was a lobbyist...there's a difference. And I might add, it appeasr there's a number of dems caught in his little web too, right?
So let's play your game and name some dems who have been under indictment...sandy berger, anyone? merely clintons chief of staff busted for pathetciaslly stealing what could only be incriminating documents from national archives and stuffing them in his pants.
cynthia mckinney of course....cindy sheehan (you go and party with chavez girl!!!)...paulie walnuts...christian slater...
Guitar Shark
04-04-2006, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
paulie walnuts...
My freakin' BALLS!!!
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Abramoff was not a politician...he was a lobbyist...there's a difference. And I might add, it appeasr there's a number of dems caught in his little web too, right?
Wrong. On both counts. I never said Jack 'Off was a politician, I said he was a Republican. Which he most definitely is, and always has been. And there is not a single Democrat who ever took money from Jack 'Off.
So let's play your game and name some dems who have been under indictment...sandy berger, anyone? merely clintons chief of staff busted for pathetciaslly stealing what could only be incriminating documents from national archives and stuffing them in his pants.
I recall such allegations, but I don't remember any charges or indictments coming from it.
cynthia mckinney of course....cindy sheehan (you go and party with chavez girl!!!)...paulie walnuts...christian slater...
Cindy Sheehan has been arrested as a political prisoner. That's hardly comparable to the criminal behavior of Republicans. Cynthia McKinney acted in self defense, and I don't watch the Sopranos, so I can't help you with Paulie Walnuts.
Guitar Shark
04-04-2006, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Cindy Sheehan has been arrested as a political prisoner.
LOL! Yeah, I bet she's at Guantanamo right now.
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 11:09 AM
sandy berger wound up with a misdemeanor. it's ridiculous he didn't wind up with more, but I imagine he made clear if anything more came of his arrest then he would gladly expose sensitive netyioanl secrets in court...
so you're saying nothing came of bergers thing (incorrectly)? nothing has come of any allegations towards frist or delay yet...and cunningham can still appeal.
oh, by the way, you forgot to mention libby in your list of bastard repubs...
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
sandy berger wound up with a misdemeanor. it's ridiculous he didn't wind up with more, but I imagine he made clear if anything more came of his arrest then he would gladly expose sensitive netyioanl secrets in court...
OK. Guess I missed it.
so you're saying nothing came of bergers thing (incorrectly)? nothing has come of any allegations towards frist or delay yet...and cunningham can still appeal.
Cunningham has admitted and made a half assed apology for his guilt, so I doubt he would appeal. And Bug Boy's resignation probably means that he knows he's fucked. And Cat Killer already announced his retirement after this term anyhow.
oh, by the way, you forgot to mention libby in your list of bastard repubs...
I said every last member of the BCE and PNAC, didn't I?
That includes Scooter, Rove, Cheney, and anyone else who might be convicted in Treasongate.
Roy Munson
04-04-2006, 11:47 AM
I do think it's funny that on the MSNBC website they have a picture of DeLay with a caption that says "TOO NASTY"...as if that guy has never run a despicable, back-stabbing, dirty campaign before!?!?! LOL
I've never liked DeLay from the moment I knew of him. He has always reminded me of a filthy fucking snake. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could pick up and throw FORD.
Good riddance.
LoungeMachine
04-04-2006, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Warham
I claimed he would retain it if he actually ran again.
.
That's funny, DeLay and his campaign say you're full of shit.
They say he dropped out because of low polling numbers, and the fact that Hot tub Tommy felt ANY Repuke BUT him could win.
Tommy says it has nothing to do with Republican scandals and indictments, but sinply the fact HE COULDNT WIN IN NOVEMBER.
But I guess you know better :rolleyes:
LoungeMachine
04-04-2006, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
Whats wrong, panties a little too tight?
If you ever make a career out of splitting hairs...you'll do very well for yourself.
:rolleyes:
Funny, you guys love to "split hairs" with the truth when it's someone else.
How's your campaign to boycott threads that insult you coming, Ms. panty waist?
:D
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I said every last member of the BCE and PNAC, didn't I?
That includes Scooter, Rove, Cheney, and anyone else who might be convicted in Treasongate.
Oh, so would you include Joe Biden in that crew, as he IS a PNAC signatory?
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
That's funny, DeLay and his campaign say you're full of shit.
They say he dropped out because of low polling numbers, and the fact that Hot tub Tommy felt ANY Repuke BUT him could win.
Tommy says it has nothing to do with Republican scandals and indictments, but sinply the fact HE COULDNT WIN IN NOVEMBER.
But I guess you know better :rolleyes:
Wrong. He is choosing not to run b/c he will NOT let you whiny liberals run a campaign based simply on the fact that he is a dirty, rotten, no good crook. Now your campaigner will acvtually have to stand for something besides integrity!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 12:26 PM
BTW, Delay only ever had intention of styaing in the race through the primary. Why? Because all the money he has gathered through contributors and donors he gets to keep...and will now use to cover his legal bills.
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Oh, so would you include Joe Biden in that crew, as he IS a PNAC signatory?
Absolutely. I can't stand that treasonous, plagarizing hair plug wearing bastard either.
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
BTW, Delay only ever had intention of styaing in the race through the primary. Why? Because all the money he has gathered through contributors and donors he gets to keep...and will now use to cover his legal bills.
Which proves once and for all what a crooked piece of shit he is.
Hardrock69
04-04-2006, 04:33 PM
DeLay implicated in Florida gangland hit of casino boats owner.
Former GOP Majority Leader Tom DeLay's surprise announcement that he will resign from Congress in a few weeks and not stand for re-election after winning the GOP primary in his Houston area district came after a bombshell was dropped in the Broward County, Florida trial of former John Gotti hit man Anthony "Big Tony" Moscatiello for the February 2001 gangland slaying of Sun Cruz casino boat owner Konstantinos "Gus" Boulis. Moscatiello is on trial with Anthony "Little Tony" Ferrari and James "Pudgy" Fiorillo in the murder of Boulis.
On April 1, the Miami Herald reported that Moscatiello was a long time informant for the FBI at the time of the murder of Boulis. Moscatiello quit his association with the the FBI shortly after the murder of Boulis. Recently convicted GOP lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his colleague Adam Kidan forced Boulis to sell Sun Cruz Casino Cruises to them in a scheme engineered by Gov. Jeb Bus to establish a GOP money launcering contrivance. The state pressured Boulis, a Greek national, to sell Sun Cruz to Abramoff because of an obscure state requirement that shipping companies be owned by U.S. citizens. Jeb Bush, using Florida's regulatory mechanisms behind the scenes, ensured Boulis was pressured to divest his interests in Sun Cruz to Abramoff.
WMR sources report that Broward County prosecutors are livid about the failure of the FBI to inform them that Moscatiello was an FBI informant at the time of the Boulis murder. They are convinced that the George W. and Jeb Bush administrations in Washington and Tallahassee, respectively, deliberately blocked the prosecution from linking Moscatiello to the criminal cases against Abramoff and Kidan. Kidan placed Moscatiello and Ferrari on the Sun Cruz payroll after Abramoff assumed control of the company. Abramoff and Kidan were sentenced to over 5 years in prison last week for lying to financers in their purchase of Sun Cruz from Boulis. The light sentences were the result of plea agreements in which they prmised to cooperate with federal prosecutors.
However, the Sun Cruz case goes far beyond Abramoff and involves DeLay, according to informed sources. The Broward County prosecutors believe that the FBI's written summaries (FD-302s) of their interviews with Moscatiello were withheld from the prosecution by the FBI in order to protect senior GOP officials. Had the prosecution known Moscatiello was an FBI informer, he could have been offered a plea bargain in return for his cooperation against Republican politicians in Florida and Washington, DC.
The story behind the story: DeLay's involvement with Florida gangland mobsters probed by prosecutors stymied by withheld FBI interview forms and obstruction from George W. and Jeb Bush.
Prosecutors and investigative reporters in Miami and Fort Lauderdale are focusing on the time line involving Sun Cruz, Boulis, Abramoff, and DeLay. In February 2000, Abramoff began negotiations with Boulis for the sale of Sun Cruz, which Boulis eventually sold to Abramoff for a mere $147 million. At the time, Abramoff was a lobbyist for the well-connected Preston Gates law firm. After the November 2000 election of George W. Bush, Boulis protested that he had been defrauded by Abramoff and Kidan in the sale of Sun Cruz. To avoid legal issues, Abramoff and Kidan began to make legal moves to move Sun Cruz's corporate headquarters from Florida to the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas.
On December 13, 2000, Abramoff's Sun Cruz paid $145,000 to Moscatiello for "consulting services." On January 19, 2001, one day prior to the inauguration of George W. Bush, Boulis filed court action to block Abramoff's and Kidan's involvement with Sun Cruz. On January 20, 2001, Kidan and former DeLay aide Michael Scanlon met in DeLay's congressional office in Washington to "officially" celebrate the Bush inauguration. Scanlon, former DeLay aide Tony Rudy, Abramoff, and Kidan are all cooperating with federal prosecutors after agreeing to plea agreements.
On January 25, 2001, Abramoff reportedly flew DeLay's senior staffer Tim Berry, named his chief of staff in 2002, to Tampa for the Super Bowl and a meeting on one of the Sun Cruz casino boats. Suspiciously, Berry did not report the trip on disclosure forms, something DeLay's office later called an "honest mistake."
On February 6, 2001, Boulis was shot to death in his car after leaving his Fort Lauderdale office. Florida prosecutors have uncovered preliminary evidence that Sun Cruz was wrested from Boulis to enable hundreds of millions of dollars in cash could be laundered into GOP campaigns, including the DeLay and Bush-Cheney 2004 campaigns, from the casino boats.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
So now Monkey Boy and Jeb are obstructing justice in a MURDER investigation?
Repukes, is it time for Chimpeachment yet???
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by FORD
So now Monkey Boy and Jeb are obstructing justice in a MURDER investigation?
Repukes, is it time for Chimpeachment yet???
How in the world does that article reflect and relate to the president???
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-04-2006, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Absolutely. I can't stand that treasonous, plagarizing hair plug wearing bastard either.
Eek. well, then, you're just gonna HATE 2008, 'cause if it ain't him, it'll be Hillary.
(plagiarizing?)
Guitar Shark
04-04-2006, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Eek. well, then, you're just gonna HATE 2008, 'cause if it ain't him, it'll be Hillary.
(plagiarizing?)
Those are the only two viable Dem candidates I'm seeing right now. Good Lord, let is NOT be Hillary.
Warham
04-04-2006, 06:31 PM
My gut right now tells me that McCain is going to win the Republican nomination.
DEMON CUNT
04-04-2006, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Warham
My gut right now tells me that McCain is going to win the Republican nomination.
If McCain would have won the nomination in 2000, I just might have voted for him. At one time I really thought he was a stand-up honest Republican.
Lately, he seems to have pussed out. From bull dog to lap dog. Maybe even body snachers kinda shit.
Now about that illegitimate black baby of his...*
*insert Karl Rovian whisper campaign here.
DeLay represents ALL that is wrong with the republican party.
Warham
04-04-2006, 08:01 PM
Does that mean you'll vote for Hillary?
LoungeMachine
04-04-2006, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Wrong. He is choosing not to run b/c he will NOT let you whiny liberals run a campaign based simply on the fact that he is a dirty, rotten, no good crook.
:lol:
My sides hurt.
Gotta love the irony:D
LoungeMachine
04-04-2006, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Warham
My gut right now tells me that McCain is going to win the Republican nomination.
Your "gut" also said DeLay would win.
and no one would be indicted in the Plame leak.
I'd work on your gut if I were you.:rolleyes:
LoungeMachine
04-04-2006, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
DeLay represents ALL that is wrong with the republican party.
And his fall does not bode well for the Repukes in the mid-terms.
Regardless of what the sheep guts in here say :D
DEMON CUNT
04-04-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Does that mean you'll vote for Hillary?
Who are you asking?
Hillary Swank? I'd fuck her.
ODShowtime
04-04-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Warham
::sigh::
Like I said, don't try it, cause I'm not going for the bait.
Like I said, it's for the best that he withdrew.
ha ha ha, the bait?!?
You just got fuckin disemboweled buddy!
LoungeMachine
04-04-2006, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
ha ha ha, the bait?!?
You just got fuckin disemboweled buddy!
Not that he'd ever admit it :D
And truth be told, I wasn't baiting him. I just liked watching him spin his forgotten post.
He's the queen of "that's not what I meant"
:cool:
LoungeMachine
04-04-2006, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Who are you asking?
Hillary Swank? I'd fuck her.
He claims we're ALL going to vote for her :rolleyes:
"The Dems will vote for her in droves"
LMMFAO
He also asks everyone this same question.
She's his new Bill obsession. :cool:
Warham
04-04-2006, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Your "gut" also said DeLay would win.
and no one would be indicted in the Plame leak.
I'd work on your gut if I were you.:rolleyes:
Are you done yet?
Warham
04-04-2006, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Not that he'd ever admit it :D
And truth be told, I wasn't baiting him. I just liked watching him spin his forgotten post.
He's the queen of "that's not what I meant"
:cool:
I didn't spin anything.
You were baiting me.
You can keep playing this vendetta of yours as long as you want, but don't expect me to play along.
Warham
04-04-2006, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
He claims we're ALL going to vote for her :rolleyes:
"The Dems will vote for her in droves"
LMMFAO
He also asks everyone this same question.
She's his new Bill obsession. :cool:
I think I'm your guys' new obsession, since I'm practically in all your signatures now.
Alright, so if it's Clinton or McCain, who would you vote for?
Warham
04-04-2006, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
ha ha ha, the bait?!?
You just got fuckin disemboweled buddy!
I'm not used to a post of yours where your not crying that the world's going to end soon.
DEMON CUNT
04-04-2006, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Alright, so if it's Clinton or McCain, who would you vote for?
Nader!
Warham
04-04-2006, 08:59 PM
Well, at least your honest that you'd vote for somebody who'd never win a national election.
I'll give you credit.
ODShowtime
04-04-2006, 09:13 PM
Fuck all you neocon shitbags!
This ia a great day for The United States of America.
DEMON CUNT
04-04-2006, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Well, at least your honest that you'd vote for somebody who'd never win a national election.
I'll give you credit.
I spent a lot of time reading and listening to Nader. To me he is the best person for the job.
I saw him in 2000 and he listed all the things he expected from Bush, and I'll be damned if he wasn't right.
Warham
04-04-2006, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
Fuck all you neocon shitbags!
This ia a great day for The United States of America.
Such nasty namecalling.
Cathedral
04-04-2006, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:rolleyes:
Funny, you guys love to "split hairs" with the truth when it's someone else.
How's your campaign to boycott threads that insult you coming, Ms. panty waist?
:D
I dunno, i didn't know i was campaigning.
Not much that happens on this site matters to me at this point, Lounge.
Do yourself a favor and don't take real life and those in it for granted if you can help it.
ODShowtime
04-04-2006, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Such nasty namecalling.
and a nasty typo too. sheeit
Originally posted by Warham
I think I'm your guys' new obsession, since I'm practically in all your signatures now.
Alright, so if it's Clinton or McCain, who would you vote for?
In 2000, it would have been McCain.
In 2008, whomever the Green party's running.
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-05-2006, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by FORD
In 2000, it would have been McCain.
In 2008, whomever the Green party's running.
That's just what the Republican Party is hoping to hear. In 92 Clinton won b/c conservatives were divided between Bush and Perot, in 2000 Bush won not so much b/c of Jeb and Diebold, as simply Nader.
So my thanks in advance for helping to continue the conservative agenda for the next six years at least.
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
That's just what the Republican Party is hoping to hear. In 92 Clinton won b/c conservatives were divided between Bush and Perot, in 2000 Bush won not so much b/c of Jeb and Diebold, as simply Nader.
So my thanks in advance for helping to continue the conservative agenda for the next six years at least.
Neither Hillary or McCain will win their parties nominations, so the question is irrelevant.
If the Repukes were ever going to nominate McCain, it would have happenned in 2000, when he was clearly the superior candidate in their race, and had a legitimate shot at stealing votes from Al Gore.
Meaning the old fashioned way, not how Cruella Harris did it. As I said, I voted for McCain myself in the primary, and would have considered him in the General.
But not now. Not after all the Chimp blowing he's done since then. And Hillary continuously votes to enable their sick, fascist, treasonous agenda as well. She will never have my vote
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-05-2006, 02:38 PM
I agree that McCain will not get his parties nomination - the far-right hates him and always will. He also made a fool of himself in the last election. (I DID think that a Kerry-McCain ticket would have been excellent and viable - I would certinaly have voted for it).
But Hillary...I think she's got a VERY strong chance of gaining her parties nomination...she might be the most electable candidate they've got, and she certainly has raised/will raise the most money, no question.
Like I said, I think you'd be an idiot to not vote for the lesser of two evils. Nader or Nader-lite will never win, and will only serve to take votes away from the left candidate.
Hardrock69
04-05-2006, 03:28 PM
I do agree with the lesser of two evils statment.
I never voted for Kerry.
I voted AGAINST Chimpy.
The lesser of two evils is still evil. And the traitorous neocon agenda is an evil I cannot support in any manner.
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-05-2006, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
I do agree with the lesser of two evils statment.
I never voted for Kerry.
I voted AGAINST Chimpy.
Originally posted by FORD
The lesser of two evils is still evil. And the traitorous neocon agenda is an evil I cannot support in any manner.
Interesting...FORD, did you vote Nader in 2000? B/c if you did, you effectively voted for Bush...
Warham
04-05-2006, 03:36 PM
Voting against Bush would mean not voting for anybody.
People who voted for Kerry voted for Kerry.
Hatred never wins at the ballot box.
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Interesting...FORD, did you vote Nader in 2000? B/c if you did, you effectively voted for Bush...
No, I voted for Gore in 2000. I also voted for....... Edwards for VP and against Chimp in 2004.
I don't blame Nader for Florida though. Not with the numbers of votes that were stolen by Jeb & Cruella's various games.
EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-05-2006, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by FORD
No, I voted for Gore in 2000. I also voted for....... Edwards for VP and against Chimp in 2004.
I don't blame Nader for Florida though. Not with the numbers of votes that were stolen by Jeb & Cruella's various games.
I do. Fla was only one of the reasons Gore lost...tennessee - his home state - is another.
Hardrock69
04-05-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Voting against Bush would mean not voting for anybody.
People who voted for Kerry voted for Kerry.
Hatred never wins at the ballot box.
Alright, dimwit.
So you are saying it is possibe to NOT elect a President in a Presidential Election?
People who voted for Kerry were not necessarily voting because they liked him, but because they like Chimpy LESS than Kerry.
But then, you know that.
You never say anything useful or constructive around here. Your sole purpose is to troll, and stir up shit.
I cannot even remember when you posted anything of value.
But no matter....stupid people have a right to post as well I guess.
Warham
04-05-2006, 05:18 PM
You said you never voted for Kerry. How did you do that when you pulled the lever for Kerry?
Usually when you pull the lever in the voting booth for somebody, that means you are voting for them.
Maybe liberals have different views on voting than conservatives. When conservatives don't want to vote for somebody, they just don't vote. They don't pull levers for the other guy. They show their dissatisfaction by not going to the polls. It's either an all or nothing proposition.
And the slander is unnecessary if we are all civil here.
Originally posted by Warham
Maybe liberals have different views on voting than conservatives. When conservatives don't want to vote for somebody, they just don't vote. They don't pull levers for the other guy. They show their dissatisfaction by not going to the polls. It's either an all or nothing proposition.
If that were true, Chimpy should have gotten about 10 votes in the last election, and not even Diebold manufactured that many votes.
DEMON CUNT
04-05-2006, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Hatred never wins at the ballot box.
I agree 100%. I will never ever vote against a candidate again.
Kerry is a douche. Thought so then, think so now.
Although I doubt that Saddam would have been able to attack us on 911 if Gore was president. In addition I doubt Gore would have told the FBI to lay off Saudi Royals like Bush did.
ODShowtime
04-05-2006, 08:28 PM
It is a very gratifying sign of weakness that he's willing to step aside to make sure the pukes keep the seat.
So shameful. So disgraceful.
All that bluster a few months back...
4moreyears
04-05-2006, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by FORD
PRAISE JESUS!! The BugMan is Going going GONE!
Is Ted Kennedy retiring???
4moreyears
04-05-2006, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Warham
You said you never voted for Kerry. How did you do that when you pulled the lever for Kerry?
Usually when you pull the lever in the voting booth for somebody, that means you are voting for them.
Maybe liberals have different views on voting than conservatives. When conservatives don't want to vote for somebody, they just don't vote. They don't pull levers for the other guy. They show their dissatisfaction by not going to the polls. It's either an all or nothing proposition.
And the slander is unnecessary if we are all civil here.
I hate to disagree with you War but I voted for Obama because Alan Keynes is a scary mother fuckler. I will also be punching the democratic ticket in November for Gov in Ill. as I am discusted with our canidate Judy Barr Topinka (http://www.stoptopinka.com/). I will be punching Rod Blogoavich (sp).
Warham
04-05-2006, 08:49 PM
It's OK to disagree with me. lol
Alan Keyes is doing a talk show now, isn't he?
LoungeMachine
04-05-2006, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Warham
It's OK to disagree with me. lol
:whew:
:D
4moreyears
04-05-2006, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:whew:
:D
LOL
Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by Warham
You said you never voted for Kerry. How did you do that when you pulled the lever for Kerry?
Usually when you pull the lever in the voting booth for somebody, that means you are voting for them.
Maybe liberals have different views on voting than conservatives. When conservatives don't want to vote for somebody, they just don't vote. They don't pull levers for the other guy. They show their dissatisfaction by not going to the polls. It's either an all or nothing proposition.
And the slander is unnecessary if we are all civil here.
You figure it out.
I did vote though.
:)
BigBadBrian
04-06-2006, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
It is a very gratifying sign of weakness that he's willing to step aside to make sure the pukes keep the seat.
So shameful. So disgraceful.
All that bluster a few months back...
You're just pissed that you can't make him your poster boy for contributions any longer.
:gulp:
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