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DR CHIP
04-06-2006, 10:48 AM
Libby Says Bush Authorized Leaks
By Murray Waas, National Journal
© National Journal Group Inc.
Thursday, April 6, 2006

Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff has testified that President Bush authorized him to disclose the contents of a highly classified intelligence assessment to the media to defend the Bush administration's decision to go to war with Iraq, according to papers filed in federal court on Tuesday by Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor in the CIA leak case.


Libby testified to a federal grand jury that he had received "approval from the President through the Vice President" to divulge portions of a National Intelligence Estimate.



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I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby testified to a federal grand jury that he had received "approval from the President through the Vice President" to divulge portions of a National Intelligence Estimate regarding Saddam Hussein's purported efforts to develop nuclear weapons, according to the court papers. Libby was said to have testified that such presidential authorization to disclose classified information was "unique in his recollection," the court papers further said.

Libby also testified that an administration lawyer told him that Bush, by authorizing the disclosure of classified information, had in effect declassified the information. Legal experts disagree on whether the president has the authority to declassify information on his own.

The White House had no immediate reaction to the court filing.

Although not reflected in the court papers, two senior government officials said in interviews with National Journal in recent days that Libby has also asserted that Cheney authorized him to leak classified information to a number of journalists during the run-up to war with Iraq. In some instances, the information leaked was directly discussed with the Vice President, while in other instances Libby believed he had broad authority to release information that would make the case to go to war.

In yet another instance, Libby had claimed that President Bush authorized Libby to speak to and provide classified information to Washington Post assistant managing editor Bob Woodward for "Plan of Attack," a book written by Woodward about the run-up to the Iraqi war.

Bush and Cheney authorized the release of the information regarding the NIE in the summer of 2003, according to court documents, as part of a damage-control effort undertaken only days after former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV alleged in an op-ed in The New York Times that claims by Bush that Saddam Hussein had attempted to procure uranium from the African nation of Niger were most likely a hoax.

According to the court papers, "At some point after the publication of the July 6 Op Ed by Mr. Wilson, Vice President Cheney, [Libby's] immediate supervisor, expressed concerns to [Libby] regarding whether Mr. Wilson's trip was legitimate or whether it was in effect a junket set up by Mr. Wilson's wife."

Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a covert CIA officer at the time, and Cheney, Libby, and other Bush administration officials believed that Wilson's allegations could be discredited if it could be shown that Plame had suggested that her husband be sent on the CIA-sponsored mission to Niger.

Two days after Wilson's op-ed, Libby met with then-New York Times reporter Judith Miller and not only disclosed portions of the NIE, but also Plame's CIA employment and potential role in her husband's trip.

Regarding that meeting, Libby "testified that he was specifically authorized in advance... to disclose the key judgments of the classified NIE to Miller" because Vice President Cheney believed it to be "very important" to do so, the court papers filed Tuesday said. The New York Sun reported the court filing on its Web site early Thursday.

Libby "further testified that he at first advised the Vice President that he could not have this conversation with reporter Miller because of the classified nature of the NIE," the court papers said. Libby "testified that the Vice President had advised [Libby] that the President had authorized [Libby] to disclose relevant portions of the NIE."

Additionally, Libby "testified that he also spoke to David Addington, then counsel to the Vice President, whom [Libby] considered to be an expert in national security law, and Mr. Addington opined that Presidential authorization to publicly disclose a document amounted to a declassification of the document."

Addington succeeded Libby as Cheney's chief of staff after Libby was indicted by a federal grand jury on Oct. 28, 2005 on five counts of making false statements, perjury, and obstruction of justice in attempting to conceal his role in outing Plame as an undercover CIA operative.

Four days after the meeting with Miller, on July 12, 2003, Libby spoke again to Miller, and also for the first time with Time magazine correspondent Matthew Cooper, during which Libby spoke to both journalists about Plame's CIA employment and her possible role in sending her husband to Niger.

Regarding those conversations, Libby understood that the Vice President specifically selected him to "speak to the press in place of Cathie Martin (then the communications person for the Vice President) regarding the NIE and Wilson," the court papers said. Libby also testified, Fitzgerald asserted in the court papers, that "at the time of his conversations with Miller and Cooper, he understood that only three people -- the President, the Vice President and [Libby] -- knew that the key judgments of the NIE had been declassified.

"[Libby] testified in the grand jury that he understood that even in the days following his conversation with Ms. Miller, other key officials-including Cabinet level officials-were not made aware of the earlier declassification even as those officials were pressed to carry out a declassification of the NIE, the report about Wilson's trip and another classified document dated January 24, 2003." It is unclear from the court papers what the January 24, 2003 document might be.

During those very same conversations with the press that day Libby "discussed Ms. Wilson's CIA employment with both Matthew Cooper (for the first time) and Judith Miller (for the third time)," the court papers further said.

Although the special prosecutor's grand jury investigation has not uncovered any evidence that the Vice President encouraged Libby to release information about Plame's covert CIA status, the court papers said that Cheney had "expressed concerns to [Libby] regarding whether Mr. Wilson's trip was legitimate or whether it was in effect a junket set up by Mr. Wilson's wife."

Cheney told investigators that he had learned of Plame's employment by the CIA and her potential role in her husband being sent to Niger by then-CIA director George Tenet, according to people familiar with Cheney's interviews with the special prosecutor.

Tenet has told investigators that he had no specific recollection of discussing Plame or her role in her husband's trip with Cheney, according to people with familiar with his statement to investigators.

Two senior government officials said that Tenet did recall, however, that he made inquiries regarding the veracity of the Niger intelligence information as a result of inquires from both Cheney and Libby. As a result of those inquiries, Tenet then had the CIA conduct a new review of its Niger intelligence, and concluded that there was no evidence that Saddam Hussein had in fact attempted to purchase uranium from Niger or other African nations. Tenet and other CIA officials then informed Cheney, other administration officials, and the congressional intelligence committees of the new findings, the sources said.

Six days after Libby's conversation with Cooper and Miller regarding Plame, on July 18, 2003, the Bush administration formally declassified portions of the NIE on Iraqi weapons programs in an effort to further blunt the damage of Wilson's allegations that the Bush administration misused the faulty Niger intelligence information to make the case to go to war. It is unclear whether the information that Bush and Cheney were said to authorize Libby to disclose was the same information that was formally declassified.

One former senior government official said that both the president and Cheney, in directing Libby to disclose classified information to defend the administration's case to go to war with Iraq and in formally declassifying portions of the NIE later, were misusing the classification process for political reasons.

The official said that while the administration declassified portions of the NIE that would appear exculpatory to the White House, it insisted that a one-page summary of the NIE which would have suggested that the President mischaracterized other intelligence information to go to war remain classified.

As National Journal recently disclosed, the one-page summary of the NIE told Bush that although "most agencies judge" that an Iraqi procurement of aluminum tubes was "related to a uranium enrichment effort", the State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Energy Department's branch "believe that the tubes more likely are intended for conventional weapons."

Despite receiving that assessment, the president stated without qualification in his January 28, 2003, State of the Union address: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."

The former senior official said in an interview that he believed that the attempt to conceal the contents of the one-page summary were intertwined with the efforts to declassify portions of the NIE and to leak information to the media regarding Plame: "It was part and parcel of the same effort, but people don't see it in that context yet."

Although the court papers filed Tuesday revealed that Libby had testified that Bush and Cheney had authorized him to disclose details of the NIE, two other senior government officials said in interviews that Libby had asserted that Cheney had more broadly authorized him to leak classified information to a number of journalists during the run-up to war with Iraq as part of an administration effort to make the case to go to war.

In another instance, Libby had claimed that Bush authorized Libby to speak to and provide classified information to Washington Post assistant managing editor Bob Woodward for "Plan of Attack."

Other former senior government officials said that Bush directed people to assist Woodward in the book's preparation: "There were people on the Seventh Floor [of the CIA] who were told by Tenet to cooperate because the President wanted it done. There were calls to people to by [White House communication director] Dan Bartlett that the President wanted it done, if you were not co-operating. And sometimes the President himself told people that they should co-operate," said one former government official.

It is unclear whether Libby will argue during his upcoming trial that these other authorizations by both the President and Vice President show that he did not engage in misconduct by disclosing Plame's CIA status to reporters, or that he considered these other authorizations giving him broad authority to make other disclosures.

Fitzgerald has apparently avoided questioning Libby, other government officials, and journalists about other potential leaks of classified information to the media, according to attorneys who have represented witnesses to the special prosecutor's probe. Outside legal experts said this might be due to the fact that other authorized leaks might aid Libby's defense, and because Fitzgerald did not want to question reporters about other contacts with Libby because of First Amendment concerns.

In a Feb. 17, 2006 letter to John D. Negroponte, the Director of National Intelligence, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., wrote that he believed that disclosures in Woodward's book damaged national security. "According to [Woodward's} account, he was provided information related to sources and methods, extremely sensitive covert actions, and foreign intelligence liaison services."

Woodward's book contains, for example, a detailed account of a January 25, 2003 briefing that Libby provided to senior White House staff to make the case that Saddam Hussein had aggressive programs underway to develop chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.

Two former government officials said in interviews that the account provided sensitive intelligence information that had not been cleared for release. The book referred to intercepts by the National Security Agency of Iraqi officials that purportedly showed that Iraq was engaging in weapons of mass destruction program.

Much of the information presented by Libby at the senior White House staff meeting was later discarded by then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and then-CIA Director George Tenet as unreliable, and would not have either otherwise been made public.

One former senior official said: "They [the leakers] might have tipped people to our eavesdropping capacities, and other serious sources and methods issues. But to what end? The information was never presented to the public because it was bunk in the first place."

In the letter to Negroponte, Sen. Rockefeller complained: "I [previously] wrote both former Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) George Tenet and Acting DCI John McLaughlin seeking to determine what steps were being taken to address the appalling disclosures in [Woodward's book]. The only response that I received was to indicate that the leaks had been authorized by the Administration."

Roy Munson
04-06-2006, 11:01 AM
Wow.

FORD
04-06-2006, 11:08 AM
Can we say "CHIMPEACHMENT NOW!!" yet??

His own fucking father made it a felony to out a CIA agent. I realize the Monkey is a dumbass, but you would think THIS would be one law he couldn't claim ignorance on.

DR CHIP
04-06-2006, 11:24 AM
Hey, I report you decide :)

Guitar Shark
04-06-2006, 11:29 AM
This is getting interesting...

LoungeMachine
04-06-2006, 12:13 PM
I can see Marine One picking him up for that last ride before retiring to Crawford and praying that Cheney pre-pardons him.

It's all over but the crying now.....

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 12:58 PM
Here is the CNN story:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/06/libby.ap/index.html


THAT is an impeachable offense!!

Actually, it is HIGH TREASON!

Authorizing the leak of classified information that could result in the death of U.S. Intelligence agents can result in the death penalty!

CHIMPY NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED NOW!!!!

Fuck Chimpeachment proceedings.

He must be arrested and brought to trial for endangering the National Security Of The United States!!

There is no excuse for not arresting him now!

:mad:

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 12:59 PM
The CNN story (for all of you Retardlickens too lazy to click on a link):

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide told prosecutors that his boss said President Bush authorized the leak of sensitive intelligence information about Iraq, according to court papers filed by prosecutors in the CIA leak case.

Before his indictment, I. Lewis Libby testified to the grand jury investigating the CIA leak that Cheney told him to pass on information and that it was Bush who authorized the disclosure, the court papers say. According to the documents, the authorization led to the July 8, 2003, conversation between Libby and New York Times reporter Judith Miller.

There was no indication in the filing that either Bush or Cheney authorized Libby to disclose Valerie Plame's CIA identity.

But the disclosure in documents filed Wednesday means that the president and the vice president put Libby in play as a secret provider of information to reporters about prewar intelligence on Iraq.

The authorization came as the Bush administration faced mounting criticism about its failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the main reason the president and his aides had given for going to war.

Libby's participation in a critical conversation with Miller on July 8, 2003 "occurred only after the vice president advised defendant that the president specifically had authorized defendant to disclose certain information in the National Intelligence Estimate," the papers by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald stated. The filing did not specify the "certain information."

"Defendant testified that the circumstances of his conversation with reporter Miller -- getting approval from the president through the vice president to discuss material that would be classified but for that approval -- were unique in his recollection," the papers added.

Libby is asking for voluminous amounts of classified information from the government in order to defend himself against five counts of perjury, obstruction and lying to the FBI in the Plame affair.

He is accused of making false statements about how he learned of Plame's CIA employment and what he told reporters about it.

Her CIA status was publicly disclosed eight days after her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, accused the Bush administration of twisting prewar intelligence to exaggerate the Iraqi threat from weapons of mass destruction.

In 2002, Wilson had been dispatched to Africa by the CIA to check out intelligence that Iraq had an agreement to acquire uranium yellowcake from Niger, and Wilson had concluded that there was no such arrangement.

Libby says he needs extensive classified files from the government to demonstrate that Plame's CIA connection was a peripheral matter that he never focused on, and that the role of Wilson's wife was a small piece in a building public controversy over the failure to find WMD in Iraq.

Fitzgerald said in the new court filing that Libby's requests for information go too far and the prosecutor cited Libby's own statements to investigators in an attempt to limit the amount of information the government must turn over to Cheney's former chief of staff for his criminal defense.

According to Miller's grand jury testimony, Libby told her about Plame's CIA status in the July 8, 2003 conversation that took place shortly after the White House aide -- according to the new court filing -- was authorized by Bush through Cheney to disclose sensitive intelligence about Iraq and WMD contained in a National Intelligence Estimate.

The court filing was first disclosed by The New York Sun.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Blackflag
04-06-2006, 01:04 PM
As much as I'd like to see Bush impeached...

he's not saying he authorized him to out the CIA agent.

Just the he authorized him to release the Iraq intelligence...which is within the president's power to declassify.

It's very shady, but not neccessarily illegal.

I wish they'd impeach for the domestic spying, if nothing else.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 01:06 PM
Hey, Hard Rock, how about learning how to READ the fucking articles you cut and paste before wetting your panties?

This story is erroneous. What Blackflag says above is the fact of the matter.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 01:08 PM
No the story is true.

Go to CNN.com and read for yourself.

The Valerie Plame case is only part of the problem.

If YOU bothered to read the article, this just proves that Bush authorized the leaks of CLASSIFIED information to the press.

If it were anyone else leaking classified info, they would be arrested immediately.

Chimpy is NOT above the law, even though he suffers from delusions of godhood.

:rolleyes:

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
No the story is TRUE!

Go to CNN.com and read for yourself.

:rolleyes:

I ***WATCHED*** CNN correct and apologize for the story.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 01:12 PM
They have no reason to apologize for the existence of court papers that state the above.



WASHINGTON (AP) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide told prosecutors that his boss said President Bush authorized the leak of sensitive intelligence information about Iraq, according to court papers filed by prosecutors in the CIA leak case.

The above is factual.

Enough said.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 01:16 PM
Here is what they say about Valerie Plame:


There was no indication in the filing that either Bush or Cheney authorized Libby to disclose Valerie Plame's CIA identity.

But the disclosure in documents filed Wednesday means that the president and the vice president put Libby in play as a secret provider of information to reporters about prewar intelligence on Iraq.


Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Had they not authorized Libby to release ANY classified info, Valerie Plame's name would likely never have been leaked either.

Therefore they are still responsible, and must be held accountable.

Blackflag
04-06-2006, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69


Where there is smoke, there is fire.



I agree - that's why the weasel was careful not to say that he was authorized to name the CIA agent.

If it's just releasing classified information, it's not illegal. The president has the authority to say what is classified and what is not.

Naming a CIA agent, on the other hand, could be construed as treason. But they're not saying Bush did that part.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 01:28 PM
There should be signed documents authorizing the leak of the classified intel to the Press.

So he (as President) is allowed to authorize the dissemination of classified info.

If it had not been officially declassified, and he authorized it's release anyway, then he broke the law (again).

Blackflag
04-06-2006, 01:31 PM
Are you saying there "should" be or there "has to" be?

Because I don't think any law says he "has to" put it in writing.

Hey, I'm on your side, but the law is the law - even if Bush doesn't want to follow it.

Guitar Shark
04-06-2006, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
I ***WATCHED*** CNN correct and apologize for the story.

What the heck does this mean?

Quit talking out of your ass.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Blackflag
Are you saying there "should" be or there "has to" be?

Because I don't think any law says he "has to" put it in writing.

Hey, I'm on your side, but the law is the law - even if Bush doesn't want to follow it.


I would think the "law" would require documentation.

The law usually does in matters such as these.

You are correct in that I do not know for sure. And even if it did, the criminals in the White House would try to figure out a way to do an end run around the laws.

But it is a moot point.

This news is just another indicator that Chimpy needs to be removed from office.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
I ***WATCHED*** CNN correct and apologize for the story.

If in fact they did do that, they also would have removed the story from their website.

You are full of shit.

Blackflag
04-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Hey, have Mr. Pibb and relax, what the fuck.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 01:44 PM
Naw...not enough caffeine.

Hey I am allowed to fly off the handle when we have one of the biggest criminals in White House history in office!
;)

Blackflag
04-06-2006, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
Naw...not enough caffeine.

Hey I am allowed to fly off the handle when we have one of the biggest criminals in White House history in office!
;)

If you get nuts about every incompetent asswipe in the government, you'll have a heart attack.

Come on - take the Pibb. Take it. It's good for you.

jhale667
04-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
Naw...not enough caffeine.

Hey I am allowed to fly off the handle when we have one of the biggest criminals in White House history in office!
;)


Define "Righteous Indignation" ;)

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:21 PM
LMAO!!!

So THERE!!!

;)

I agree about the number of criminals in office.

Therefore I only really fly off the handle at the main figurehead.

It is his job to be the lightning rod for public displeasure.

Especially when he fucks up and is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, all the while lying about the reasons why they died.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
If in fact they did do that, they also would have removed the story from their website.

You are full of shit.

Look, Mr. "I Wish My Mommy Hadn't Castrated Me At Birth 'Cause She Really Wanted a Daughter", CNN originally reported that Bush had authorized the leak of Plame's name. Then the morons realized their error and they had misreported the court documents and testimony and corrected and apologized for that.

So once again, you are, as ever, WRONG. Christ, you're an idiot.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:31 PM
No I am not WRONG, dumbass.

Chimpy authorized the leak of classified intel.

That is a fact, ya fucking test-tube baby.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
No I am not WRONG, dumbass.

Chimpy authorized the leak of classified intel.

That is a fact, ya fucking test-tube baby.

AND THERE IS NOTHING FUCKING ILLEGAL, IMPEACHABLE, OR WRONG WITH THAT!!!! HOLY SHIT MAN, HOWEVER DUMB YOU THINK BUSH IS, MULTIPLY IT BY A BILLION AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!

IT'S MORONS LIKE YOU THAT CONFIRM FOR ME THAT THOUGH THESE GUYS MAY BE QUESTIONABLE, THE COUNTRY IS BETTER OFF WITH THEM IN POWER BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!!

IF A LIBERAL ISN'T A COMPLETE IDIOT LIKE YOU, THEN HE'S A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC LIKE FORD!!! LOUNGE MACHINE IS ALL RIGHT, I GUESS, BUT THEN AGAIN HE WROTE "SHE'S ONLY SEVENTEEN" SO FUCK HIM TOO!!!

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:40 PM
The country is better off with them in power because I am totally incompetent?

Since when was I elected President, fucktard?

:rolleyes:

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
The country is better off with them in power because I am totally incompetent?

Since when was I elected President, fucktard?

:rolleyes:

You exemplify liberals. You are the prototypical liberal. Dumb, obese, unemployed, and a big fat whining crybaby.

If you're out of pacifiers, I've got something else you can suck on, you bitch.

DLR'sCock
04-06-2006, 02:49 PM
Another thing to add to the list.

Democrats stop being fucking pussies!!!!!!

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
AND THERE IS NOTHING FUCKING ILLEGAL, IMPEACHABLE, OR WRONG WITH THAT!!!! HOLY SHIT MAN, HOWEVER DUMB YOU THINK BUSH IS, MULTIPLY IT BY A BILLION AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!

IT'S MORONS LIKE YOU THAT CONFIRM FOR ME THAT THOUGH THESE GUYS MAY BE QUESTIONABLE, THE COUNTRY IS BETTER OFF WITH THEM IN POWER BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!!

IF A LIBERAL ISN'T A COMPLETE IDIOT LIKE YOU, THEN HE'S A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC LIKE FORD!!! LOUNGE MACHINE IS ALL RIGHT, I GUESS, BUT THEN AGAIN HE WROTE "SHE'S ONLY SEVENTEEN" SO FUCK HIM TOO!!!

This is not about what Chimpy can or cannot do.

This is about what he did do.

You don't want to believe any of this, go read the court documents on file in Washington D.C.

Here...read the headline. You seem to think it is some kind of fairy tale.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
AND THERE IS NOTHING FUCKING ILLEGAL, IMPEACHABLE, OR WRONG WITH THAT!!!! HOLY SHIT MAN, HOWEVER DUMB YOU THINK BUSH IS, MULTIPLY IT BY A BILLION AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!

IT'S MORONS LIKE YOU THAT CONFIRM FOR ME THAT THOUGH THESE GUYS MAY BE QUESTIONABLE, THE COUNTRY IS BETTER OFF WITH THEM IN POWER BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST TOTALLY INCOMPETENT!!!

IF A LIBERAL ISN'T A COMPLETE IDIOT LIKE YOU, THEN HE'S A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC LIKE FORD!!! LOUNGE MACHINE IS ALL RIGHT, I GUESS, BUT THEN AGAIN HE WROTE "SHE'S ONLY SEVENTEEN" SO FUCK HIM TOO!!!

Dear Moron -

Bush has the authority and the legal right to do what this article is relating. There is NO new story here. At all. If there were, do you think CNN"s current headline would be about the immigration bill? Okay. get over it. Maybe someday you'll have your "bomb", but as it is...not today. You and Chris Matthews are just going to have to keep sucking each others cocks to get any sense of fulfillment at all.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 02:54 PM
As the article's first paragragh relates, the leak was about "iraq". NOT Valerie Plame. So SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!!!

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Dear Moron -

Bush has the authority and the legal right to do what this article is relating. There is NO new story here. At all. If there were, do you think CNN"s current headline would be about the immigration bill? Okay. get over it. Maybe someday you'll have your "bomb", but as it is...not today. You and Chris Matthews are just going to have to keep sucking each others cocks to get any sense of fulfillment at all.

Talking to yourself now, eh bitch?

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
You exemplify liberals. You are the prototypical liberal. Dumb, obese, unemployed, and a big fat whining crybaby.

If you're out of pacifiers, I've got something else you can suck on, you bitch.


Just as I figured...you are a closet homo masquerading as a conservative Retardlican.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
As the article's first paragragh relates, the leak was about "iraq". NOT Valerie Plame. So SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!!!

Stoopid fuck....the article is not even about that.

it is about the fact that Chimpy authorized Libby to leak classified intel.

There was never evidence of a direct connection between Chimpy and Libby's leaking of intel before, dumbass.

Fucking retard.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
Just as I figured...you are a closet homo masquerading as a conservative Retardlican.

See? fell right for it. I never said that I was going to give you MY cock to suck on.

I was going to give you your mothers. And my, from the look on her face, you've done this for her before...

jhale667
04-06-2006, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE


IF A LIBERAL ISN'T A COMPLETE IDIOT LIKE YOU, THEN HE'S A PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC LIKE FORD!!!

...Let's run with that logic...OK, then all Republicans are either racist, fascists, criminals, and/or STUPID :D



LOUNGE MACHINE IS ALL RIGHT, I GUESS, BUT THEN AGAIN HE WROTE "SHE'S ONLY SEVENTEEN" SO FUCK HIM TOO!!!

...Now THAT was just uncalled for...;)

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 03:00 PM
I swear if I were ever to meet you, I would kick the living fucking shit out of you. Hopeless dunce. Go sit in the corner with your panties around your ankles.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
See? fell right for it. I never said that I was going to give you MY cock to suck on.

I was going to give you your mothers. And my, from the look on her face, you've done this for her before...


Fucking homo.

You do not have a leg to stand on.

In fact, you must be all smooth down there like a fucking Ken doll.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by jhale667
...Let's run with that logic...OK, then all Republicans are either racist, fascists, criminals, and/or STUPID :D



Finally! Someone gets it!!! THANK YOU!!!

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
I swear if I were ever to meet you, I would kick the living fucking shit out of you. Hopeless dunce. Go sit in the corner with your panties around your ankles.

You would not stand a snowball's chance in hell.

Does your mother know you are missing from your pre-school class?

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Finally! Someone gets it!!! THANK YOU!!!

EMA even admits it, LOL.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69

You do not have a leg to stand on.


Uh...I've got TWO legs to stand on. And both to kick you right upsdie your dumb ignorant ass.

I've also got a great job, a stock portfolio, savings account, a condo, and a sweet car.

you?

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 03:05 PM
More than that, boy.

Still can't admit you do not know what you are talking about, so you change the subject.

You are laughable.
:D

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 03:25 PM
Page 24:

"According to defendant, at the time of his conversations with Miller & Cooper, he understood that only three people - the President, the Vice-President, and the defendant - knew that the key judgements of the NIE (2002 National Intelligence Estimate) had been declassified. Defendant testified in the grand jury that he understood even in the days following his conversation with Ms. Miller, other key officials - including Cabinet-level officials-were not made aware of the earlier declassification even as those officials were pressed to carry out a declassification of the NIE, the report about Wilson's trip, and another document dated January 24, 2003."



it is quite obvious from the court documents that there was no "declassification", and that it is just a story they made up to defend Libby.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 04:06 PM
Page 26 (regarding the White House Cabinet's attitude towards Ms. Plame...as EMA seems so interested in her):

"...Indeed, there exist documents, some of which have been provided to defendant, and there were conversations in which defendant participated, that reveal a strong desire by many, including multiple people in the White House, to repudiate Mr. Wilson before and after July 14, 2003."

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:10 PM
Do we need to take a time out?

Guitar Shark
04-06-2006, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Dear Moron -

Bush has the authority and the legal right to do what this article is relating.

From what I've read, this point is debatable.

Hardrock69
04-06-2006, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Do we need to take a time out?

We?

No....

WE have not been stressed out enough to require some sort of time out.

However here is some reading material for those who do...

Complete Fitzgerald Filing (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/pdf/libbyplame.pdf)

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
Wow.
There should be NO republicans elected this November and this should be the end of the Republican party.

After Nixon now this.

Enough's enough.

We need to swarm Washington D.C. with people now.

Are you with me?

FOLLOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:spank:

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
There should be NO republicans elected this November and this should be the end of the Republican party.

After Nixon now this.

Enough's enough.

We need to swarm Washington D.C. with people now.

Are you with me?

FOLLOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:spank:

Ralph Nader's on the march!

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
From what I've read, this point is debatable.
Don't listen to EAT MY ASS, fool, GS.

NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT IS ABOVE THE LAW.

He's (Bush) gone on with this lie of being above the law long enough and it's time to throw Bush and the rest out on their ears NOW!


HEY BUSH, MOVE IT!!!


:spank:

Roy Munson
04-06-2006, 04:28 PM
I can't believe how stupid Hardfagcock69faggetyfaggot is. EMA has owned him in this thread...PERIOD.

It's no use...

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Phil, aren't you above the law?

:)

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
I can't believe how stupid Hardfagcock69faggetyfaggot is. EMA has owned him in this thread...PERIOD.

It's no use...

That's gotta be the longest username on this forum.

;)

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Ralph Nader's on the march!
A sense of humor is good about now for you baby neocons.

But I'm not laughing.

Bush must be crying right now in a fetal position.

How can he ever show his face again?

How can he ever show his face to represent us to the world again?


:spank:

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:33 PM
Let justice prevail!

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Phil, aren't you above the law?

:)
Only when I'm stalking then it's anything goes.;)

I feel for ya t2oday, Warham.

You really believed in Bush.

Eh, I believed in the Raspberries o1nce.


:spank:


"LET'S PRETEND"
If We Close Our Eyes And Believe It Might Come True

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 04:42 PM
I'm using the Quick Reply Box to address this problem.

It's obvious from the last post EAT MY ASS made in this thread that they are a troll.

Ban EAT MY ASS now.

Thank you, mods.

Wot's taking yoo sooooooo fakking long?! huh

Are yoo waiting f4or da civil war t2o ban an obvious (and rude) "troll"?

This is not a gay troll festival.


:spank:

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:43 PM
...all by myself...

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Let justice prevail!
Yoo're hilarious t2oday, Warham!


:spank:

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Thanks, Phil.

This new moderate Warham works much better for comedic purposes.

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Warham
...all by myself...
Yeh, the Raspberries played Cleveland again a couple months ago minus Eric Carmen's dress.

Eric's legs have aged.


:spank:

TINY PIC LARGE AMPS
LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE AMPS!
Fakking Marshall Stacks At A Garden Party!
How We Lost Our Hearing In Cleveland

Warham
04-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Eric Carmen's got hungry eyes.

lmfao

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 07:26 PM
Y've gotta give da peeps wot they WANT!


:spank:

Blackflag
04-06-2006, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
I'm using the Quick Reply Box to address this problem.

It's obvious from the last post EAT MY ASS made in this thread that they are a troll.

Ban EAT MY ASS now.

Thank you, mods.

Wot's taking yoo sooooooo fakking long?! huh

Are yoo waiting f4or da civil war t2o ban an obvious (and rude) "troll"?

This is not a gay troll festival.


:spank:

Stop being a pussy.

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by Blackflag
Stop being a pussy.
I think yoo're gooing t2o remember t2oday like yoo want t2o remember tit.

Like yer wedding day.

uh u hu huh u hu hu hu h uh

Yoo f4orgot aboot losing all yer freedoms and driving wit a beer beetween yer legs.

I'm all f4or a liTITle less cuntversation and a liTITle mmmore action, baybee!

L'see, Bush raTITed out t2oday, da U.S. is at war wit Iran t2omorrow.

I can see dat.


:spank:

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
I'm using the Quick Reply Box to address this problem.

It's obvious from the last post EAT MY ASS made in this thread that they are a troll.

Ban EAT MY ASS now.




Shut up and stop being a pussy.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-06-2006, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Blackflag
Stop being a pussy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! A beautiful coincidence!!!!

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Shut up and stop being a pussy.
Woodn't tit bee better t2o PM mmme than t2o embarrass us both wit dis humiliating DISPLAY?


:spank:


HUMILIAtitED

Phil theStalker
04-06-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Shut up and stop being a pussy.
Woodn't tit bee better t2o PM mmme than t2o embarrass us both wit dis humiliating DISPLAY?


:spank:


HUMILIAtitED

Roy Munson
04-07-2006, 09:49 AM
This paints a slightly different story...


In Court Filings, Cheney Aide Says Bush Approved Leak
By DAVID JOHNSTON and DAVID E. SANGER


WASHINGTON, April 6 — President Bush authorized Vice President Dick Cheney in July 2003 to permit Mr. Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr., to leak key portions of a classified prewar intelligence estimate on Iraq, according to Mr. Libby's grand jury testimony.

The testimony, cited in a court filing by the government late Wednesday, provides the first indication that Mr. Bush, who has long assailed leaks of classified information as a national security threat, played a direct role in the disclosure of the intelligence report on Iraq at a moment that the White House was trying to defend itself against charges that it had inflated the case against Saddam Hussein.

If Mr. Libby's account is accurate, it also involves Mr. Bush directly in the swirl of events surrounding the disclosure of the identity of an undercover C.I.A. officer.

The president has the legal power to declassify information, and Mr. Libby indicated in his testimony that the president's decision — which he said was conveyed through Mr. Cheney — gave him legal cover to pass on information contained in a National Intelligence Estimate.

A little more than a week later, under continuing pressure, the White House published a declassified version of the executive summary of the estimate, in an effort to make the case that Mr. Bush was justified in arguing, in his 2003 State of the Union address, that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium in Africa.

But the political impact of the disclosure could be significant. It suggests that Mr. Libby, who has been charged with perjury and obstruction in the C.I.A. leak case, may argue as part of his defense that any information he leaked was on the instructions of his two superiors, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush. However, the sections of the N.I.E. that Mr. Libby said he was freed to discuss make no mention of Valerie Plame, the C.I.A. officer who was exposed in the course of the arguments over the intelligence, prompting the leak investigation.

The disclosure prompted Democrats to demand that the White House be forthcoming about Mr. Bush's role. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, released a statement saying: "In light of today's shocking revelation, President Bush must fully disclose his participation in the selective leaking of classified information. The American people must know the truth."

The court filing, which was first reported this morning on the New York Sun Web site, said that Mr. Libby testified that the "Vice President advised defendant that the President had authorized defendant to disclose certain information in the NIE."

The prosecutors said that Mr. Libby testified that he recalled the circumstances "getting approval from the President through the Vice President to discuss material that would be classified but for that approval — were unique in his recollection."

The leak was intended, the court papers suggested, as a rebuttal to the Op-Ed article published in the New York Times on July 6, by Joseph C. Wilson, IV, a former ambassador and the husband of Ms. Plame. Mr. Wilson wrote that he had traveled to Africa in 2002 after Mr. Cheney had raised questions about possible nuclear purchases. Mr. Wilson wrote that he concluded it was "highly doubtful" Iraq had sought to nuclear fuel from Niger.

At Mr. Cheney's office, the Op-Ed article was viewed "as a direct attack on credibility of the Vice President (and the President) on a matter of signal importance: the rationale for the war in Iraq," according to the court papers.

The presidential authorization was provided, the court papers said, in advance of a meeting on July 8, 2003 between Mr. Libby and Judith Miller, then a reporter for the New York Times. Mr. Libby brought a brief abstract of the N.I.E.'s key judgments to the meeting with Ms. Miller in the lobby of the St. Regis Hotel about two blocks from the White House.

Mr. Libby testified, the prosecutors said, that he was "specifically authorized in advance of the meeting to disclose the key judgments of the classified N.I.E. to Miller on that occasion because it was thought that the N.I.E. was "pretty definitive" against what Ambassador Wilson had said and that the Vice President thought that it was "very important" for the key judgments of the N.I.E. to come out."

The court filing said that Mr. Libby said "he understood that he was to tell Miller, among other things, that a key judgment of the N.I.E. held that Iraq was 'vigorously trying to procure' uranium." Mr. Libby, the prosecutors, said, testified that the meeting with Ms. Miller was the "only time he recalled in his government experience when he disclosed a document to a reporter that was effectively declassified by virtue of the president's authorization that it be disclosed."

Ms. Miller never published anything about the contents of the intelligence estimate.

Mr. Libby testified that he first told Mr. Cheney that he could not conduct such a conversation with Ms. Miller because the intelligence estimate on Iraq was classified. Mr. Libby testified that Mr. Cheney later told him that Mr. Bush had authorized the release of "relevant portions."

In addition, Mr. Libby told the grand jury that he also spoke with David Addington, then a lawyer for Mr. Cheney, whom Mr. Libby regarded as an expert on national security law. "Mr. Addington opined that Presidential authorization to publicly disclose a document amounted to declassification of the document," the court filing said.

Mr. Libby testified that at the meeting, he did not discuss Mr. Wilson's wife, because "he had forgotten by that time that he learned about Ms. Wilson's C.I.A. employment a month earlier from the Vice President."

Ms. Miller, in her Oct. 16, 2005, account of the meeting, said that her notes showed that the two had discussed Mr. Wilson's wife, who, according to her notes, worked in a unit of the C.I.A. that is engaged in the intelligence assessments of unconventional weapons.

Ms. Miller said that Mr. Libby discussed a chronology of what she said he described as "credible evidence" of Iraq's efforts to acquire uranium. She made no reference to whether Mr. Libby referred to any material as derived from the intelligence estimate, but said that he alluded to two reports, one in 1999 and another in 2002, that seemed to support the contention that Iraq was interested in obtaining uranium.

Sarge's Little Helper
04-07-2006, 09:49 AM
This paints a slightly different story...


In Court Filings, Cheney Aide Says Bush Approved Leak
By DAVID JOHNSTON and DAVID E. SANGER


WASHINGTON, April 6 — President Bush authorized Vice President Dick Cheney in July 2003 to permit Mr. Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr., to leak key portions of a classified prewar intelligence estimate on Iraq, according to Mr. Libby's grand jury testimony.

The testimony, cited in a court filing by the government late Wednesday, provides the first indication that Mr. Bush, who has long assailed leaks of classified information as a national security threat, played a direct role in the disclosure of the intelligence report on Iraq at a moment that the White House was trying to defend itself against charges that it had inflated the case against Saddam Hussein.

If Mr. Libby's account is accurate, it also involves Mr. Bush directly in the swirl of events surrounding the disclosure of the identity of an undercover C.I.A. officer.

The president has the legal power to declassify information, and Mr. Libby indicated in his testimony that the president's decision — which he said was conveyed through Mr. Cheney — gave him legal cover to pass on information contained in a National Intelligence Estimate.

A little more than a week later, under continuing pressure, the White House published a declassified version of the executive summary of the estimate, in an effort to make the case that Mr. Bush was justified in arguing, in his 2003 State of the Union address, that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium in Africa.

But the political impact of the disclosure could be significant. It suggests that Mr. Libby, who has been charged with perjury and obstruction in the C.I.A. leak case, may argue as part of his defense that any information he leaked was on the instructions of his two superiors, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush. However, the sections of the N.I.E. that Mr. Libby said he was freed to discuss make no mention of Valerie Plame, the C.I.A. officer who was exposed in the course of the arguments over the intelligence, prompting the leak investigation.

The disclosure prompted Democrats to demand that the White House be forthcoming about Mr. Bush's role. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader, released a statement saying: "In light of today's shocking revelation, President Bush must fully disclose his participation in the selective leaking of classified information. The American people must know the truth."

The court filing, which was first reported this morning on the New York Sun Web site, said that Mr. Libby testified that the "Vice President advised defendant that the President had authorized defendant to disclose certain information in the NIE."

The prosecutors said that Mr. Libby testified that he recalled the circumstances "getting approval from the President through the Vice President to discuss material that would be classified but for that approval — were unique in his recollection."

The leak was intended, the court papers suggested, as a rebuttal to the Op-Ed article published in the New York Times on July 6, by Joseph C. Wilson, IV, a former ambassador and the husband of Ms. Plame. Mr. Wilson wrote that he had traveled to Africa in 2002 after Mr. Cheney had raised questions about possible nuclear purchases. Mr. Wilson wrote that he concluded it was "highly doubtful" Iraq had sought to nuclear fuel from Niger.

At Mr. Cheney's office, the Op-Ed article was viewed "as a direct attack on credibility of the Vice President (and the President) on a matter of signal importance: the rationale for the war in Iraq," according to the court papers.

The presidential authorization was provided, the court papers said, in advance of a meeting on July 8, 2003 between Mr. Libby and Judith Miller, then a reporter for the New York Times. Mr. Libby brought a brief abstract of the N.I.E.'s key judgments to the meeting with Ms. Miller in the lobby of the St. Regis Hotel about two blocks from the White House.

Mr. Libby testified, the prosecutors said, that he was "specifically authorized in advance of the meeting to disclose the key judgments of the classified N.I.E. to Miller on that occasion because it was thought that the N.I.E. was "pretty definitive" against what Ambassador Wilson had said and that the Vice President thought that it was "very important" for the key judgments of the N.I.E. to come out."

The court filing said that Mr. Libby said "he understood that he was to tell Miller, among other things, that a key judgment of the N.I.E. held that Iraq was 'vigorously trying to procure' uranium." Mr. Libby, the prosecutors, said, testified that the meeting with Ms. Miller was the "only time he recalled in his government experience when he disclosed a document to a reporter that was effectively declassified by virtue of the president's authorization that it be disclosed."

Ms. Miller never published anything about the contents of the intelligence estimate.

Mr. Libby testified that he first told Mr. Cheney that he could not conduct such a conversation with Ms. Miller because the intelligence estimate on Iraq was classified. Mr. Libby testified that Mr. Cheney later told him that Mr. Bush had authorized the release of "relevant portions."

In addition, Mr. Libby told the grand jury that he also spoke with David Addington, then a lawyer for Mr. Cheney, whom Mr. Libby regarded as an expert on national security law. "Mr. Addington opined that Presidential authorization to publicly disclose a document amounted to declassification of the document," the court filing said.

Mr. Libby testified that at the meeting, he did not discuss Mr. Wilson's wife, because "he had forgotten by that time that he learned about Ms. Wilson's C.I.A. employment a month earlier from the Vice President."

Ms. Miller, in her Oct. 16, 2005, account of the meeting, said that her notes showed that the two had discussed Mr. Wilson's wife, who, according to her notes, worked in a unit of the C.I.A. that is engaged in the intelligence assessments of unconventional weapons.

Ms. Miller said that Mr. Libby discussed a chronology of what she said he described as "credible evidence" of Iraq's efforts to acquire uranium. She made no reference to whether Mr. Libby referred to any material as derived from the intelligence estimate, but said that he alluded to two reports, one in 1999 and another in 2002, that seemed to support the contention that Iraq was interested in obtaining uranium.

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

Roy Munson
04-07-2006, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Woodn't tit bee better t2o PM mmme than t2o embarrass us both wit dis humiliating DISPLAY?


:spank:


HUMILIAtitED


See this. You're a fucking hypocrite. Don't EVER bitch about Abu Graib again and the humiliation incurred by those detainees. You're doing as much to promote that humiliation by posting these photos as the soldiers did when those pictures were taken.

You're funny in other forums, just not this one.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-07-2006, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
Woodn't tit bee better t2o PM mmme than t2o embarrass us both wit dis humiliating DISPLAY?




No, I enjoy showing off what a dumb shit you are for all the world to see, thanks.

Hardrock69
04-07-2006, 03:59 PM
You actually enjoy showing off what a dumb shit YOU are.

Keep it up, funboy.

It makes grate entertainment for the rest of us!

:D

Warham
04-07-2006, 04:05 PM
'Can't we all just get along?'

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-07-2006, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
You actually enjoy showing off what a dumb shit YOU are.

Keep it up, funboy.

:D

That's the best you've got? monsieur Pathetic, your Kleenex is waiting...

Nickdfresh
04-07-2006, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Blackflag
As much as I'd like to see Bush impeached...

he's not saying he authorized him to out the CIA agent.

Just the he authorized him to release the Iraq intelligence...which is within the president's power to declassify.

It's very shady, but not neccessarily illegal.

I wish they'd impeach for the domestic spying, if nothing else.

This is true...

BUSH has his cronies selectively declassify whatever data appears to support his case. This includes the supposed "Iraqi Documents" being declassified to fraudulently show exaggerated, out-of-context links between Iraq and al-Qaida....

Still bad form for a dick that bitches whenever anyone divulges info. to journalists...

More two-faced "double/new speak" by this regime is revealed...

DrMaddVibe
04-08-2006, 09:17 AM
Friday, April 7, 2006 11:31 p.m. EDT

CNN Flub: President Bush Authorized Valerie Plame Leak

CNN initially reported on Thursday that newly released court documents covering Scooter Libby's testimony showed that President Bush personally authorized the leak of CIA employee Valerie Plame's name to the press.

Here's how CNN broke their bogus bombshell:

CNN's JIM CLANCY: "A major story breaking now out of Washington right now. According to court papers that were filed by prosecutors, I. Lewis Libby, Scooter Libby, who was a key man in the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, has alleged that U.S. President George W. Bush was the man who authorized the leaking of the name of a CIA operative and the wife of a former ambassador.

"Now - that former CIA operator, Valerie Plame, was unmasked to journalists." [END EXCERPT]

In fact, the so-called leak authorized by Bush had nothing to do with Plame - but instead covered Iraq war intelligence that was mostly already in the public domain.

CNN eventually realized its error and issued an on-air correction, forcing liberals coast-to-coast to cancel their planned impeachment parties.






LOL!!!!!

Phil theStalker
04-08-2006, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Friday, April 7, 2006 11:31 p.m. EDT

CNN Flub: President Bush Authorized Valerie Plame Leak

CNN initially reported on Thursday that newly released court documents covering Scooter Libby's testimony showed that President Bush personally authorized the leak of CIA employee Valerie Plame's name to the press.

Here's how CNN broke their bogus bombshell:

CNN's JIM CLANCY: "A major story breaking now out of Washington right now. According to court papers that were filed by prosecutors, I. Lewis Libby, Scooter Libby, who was a key man in the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, has alleged that U.S. President George W. Bush was the man who authorized the leaking of the name of a CIA operative and the wife of a former ambassador.

"Now - that former CIA operator, Valerie Plame, was unmasked to journalists." [END EXCERPT]

In fact, the so-called leak authorized by Bush had nothing to do with Plame - but instead covered Iraq war intelligence that was mostly already in the public domain.

CNN eventually realized its error and issued an on-air correction, forcing liberals coast-to-coast to cancel their planned impeachment parties.






LOL!!!!! I had your post reply, dude. But I accidentally hit the Escape key and it was gone. Answering you fools here is getting to be a real waste of my time. I'm not retyping it, but you're the one who's got a lot to deal with.

But my main comment was Bush wanted FALSE intelligence leaked. Bush wanted to feed the American people LIES. It will all come out in the wash and certainly not from any 'CNN' or corporate media that is owned and in bed with all these globalists who've taken over ours, and many first world nations federal government.

War, what is it good for?

It's good for throwing out these globalists and their world reserve banking bosses. (sic)


:spank:

FORD
04-08-2006, 11:24 AM
The fact here is that, despite all the spin attempts to justify Chimpy changing whatever laws he wants to at will (oh but of course he's not a god damned dictator), Chimp is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY.

Valerie Plame was outed in 2003. At any point in time between then and now, Chimpy, Cheney, or Libby, and probably Rove and others could have offerred up this lame ass "war president can do whatever the fuck he wants" LIE and spared the rest of us a lot of time and the taxpayers a lot of money

Chimp said several times that he would FIRE anyone in his Fraudministration who leaked that information, knowing damn well that it was HE who leaked it!

For once, Chimpy should keep his word.

FIRE YOURSELF, YOU FUCKING TREASONOUS BASTARD!!!

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-08-2006, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by FORD


Chimp said several times that he would FIRE anyone in his Fraudministration who leaked that information,

Not true! He said he would "take care of". And he has....look at how much money Halliburton is generating these days!

Phil theStalker
04-08-2006, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Not true! He said he would "take care of". And he has....look at how much money Halliburton is generating these days!
I've said tit bef4ore and I'll say tit again.

Dis guy is a TROLL.

Trolls are a cancer t2o a board and EMA needs t2o bee CUT OUT!

Tit's probably Ted Nugent.

Tit sounds like da NUGE.


:spank:

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-08-2006, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker
I've said tit bef4ore and I'll say tit again.

Dis guy is a TROLL.

Trolls are a cancer t2o a board and EMA needs t2o bee CUT OUT!

Tit's probably Ted Nugent.

Tit sounds like da NUGE.


:spank:


You're the one who sounds like the Hal 2000 computer in the midst of an epileptic fit, and I'M the troll???

Stop being a pussy.

ODShowtime
04-08-2006, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
I swear if I were ever to meet you, I would kick the living fucking shit out of you. Hopeless dunce. Go sit in the corner with your panties around your ankles.
What a moron you are. Your arguments are weak, your jokes are pathetic. You're just wasting everyone's time.

Go get in line for your waborita tickets, I heard they are touring this summer.

ODShowtime
04-08-2006, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Uh...I've got TWO legs to stand on. And both to kick you right upsdie your dumb ignorant ass.

I've also got a great job, a stock portfolio, savings account, a condo, and a sweet car.

you?


Oh, a savings account! Did you get your own yet, or did your mommy set it up for you?

Nickdfresh
04-08-2006, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Friday, April 7, 2006 11:31 p.m. EDT

CNN Flub: President Bush Authorized Valerie Plame Leak

CNN initially reported on Thursday that newly released court documents covering Scooter Libby's testimony showed that President Bush personally authorized the leak of CIA employee Valerie Plame's name to the press.

Here's how CNN broke their bogus bombshell:

CNN's JIM CLANCY: "A major story breaking now out of Washington right now. According to court papers that were filed by prosecutors, I. Lewis Libby, Scooter Libby, who was a key man in the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, has alleged that U.S. President George W. Bush was the man who authorized the leaking of the name of a CIA operative and the wife of a former ambassador.

"Now - that former CIA operator, Valerie Plame, was unmasked to journalists." [END EXCERPT]

In fact, the so-called leak authorized by Bush had nothing to do with Plame - but instead covered Iraq war intelligence that was mostly already in the public domain.

CNN eventually realized its error and issued an on-air correction, forcing liberals coast-to-coast to cancel their planned impeachment parties.






LOL!!!!!

**sigh**:(

BigBadBrian
04-08-2006, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Phil theStalker

NO ONE, NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT IS ABOVE THE LAW.



I'll bet you didn't say that 7 or 8 years ago when perjury and obstruction charges were pretty obvious against a well-know ex-President. ;)

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-08-2006, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
Oh, a savings account! Did you get your own yet, or did your mommy set it up for you?

You accuse me of lame jokes, and this and Waboritos references are the best YOU can do?

Weak little shit.

ODShowtime
04-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
You accuse me of lame jokes, and this and Waboritos references are the best YOU can do?

Weak little shit.

I don't even need to try with you. I just state the truth. You SUCK, pure and simple.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
04-08-2006, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
I don't even need to try with you. I just state the truth. You SUCK, pure and simple.

Yeah, but you swallow.

Weak little shit.

Phil theStalker
04-08-2006, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I'll bet you didn't say that 7 or 8 years ago when perjury and obstruction charges were pretty obvious against a well-know ex-President. ;)
Dear BBB,

Why pick on mme? huh

Why doo yoo ASSume t2o know mmypersonal poliTICKs? huh

I hate Clinton da SOCIALIST, New Werld Odor, scum, puke!

I hate da FASCIST republiscums!

uh uh uh u hu hu hu hu hu hu h

Need I say mmmore? huh


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Nickdfresh
04-09-2006, 07:13 AM
A 'Concerted Effort' to Discredit Bush Critic
Prosecutor Describes Cheney, Libby as Key Voices Pitching Iraq-Niger Story

By Barton Gellman and Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, April 9, 2006; A01

As he drew back the curtain this week on the evidence against Vice President Cheney's former top aide, Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald for the first time described a "concerted action" by "multiple people in the White House" -- using classified information -- to "discredit, punish or seek revenge against" a critic of President Bush's war in Iraq.

Bluntly and repeatedly, Fitzgerald placed Cheney at the center of that campaign. Citing grand jury testimony from the vice president's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Fitzgerald fingered Cheney as the first to voice a line of attack that at least three White House officials would soon deploy against former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV.

Cheney, in a conversation with Libby in early July 2003, was said to describe Wilson's CIA-sponsored trip to Niger the previous year -- in which the envoy found no support for charges that Iraq tried to buy uranium there -- as "a junket set up by Mr. Wilson's wife," CIA case officer Valerie Plame.

Libby is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice for denying under oath that he disclosed Plame's CIA employment to journalists. There is no public evidence to suggest Libby made any such disclosure with Cheney's knowledge. But according to Libby's grand jury testimony, described for the first time in legal papers filed this week, Cheney "specifically directed" Libby in late June or early July 2003 to pass information to reporters from two classified CIA documents: an October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate and a March 2002 summary of Wilson's visit to Niger.

One striking feature of that decision -- unremarked until now, in part because Fitzgerald did not mention it -- is that the evidence Cheney and Libby selected to share with reporters had been disproved months before.

United Nations inspectors had exposed the main evidence for the uranium charge as crude forgeries in March 2003, but the Bush administration and British Prime Minister Tony Blair maintained they had additional, secret evidence they could not disclose. In June, a British parliamentary inquiry concluded otherwise, delivering a scathing critique of Blair's role in promoting the story. With no ally left, the White House debated whether to abandon the uranium claim and became embroiled in bitter finger-pointing about whom to fault for the error. A legal brief filed for Libby last month said that "certain officials at the CIA, the White House, and the State Department each sought to avoid or assign blame for intelligence failures relating to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."

It was at that moment that Libby, allegedly at Cheney's direction, sought out at least three reporters to bolster the discredited uranium allegation. Libby made careful selections of language from the 2002 estimate, quoting a passage that said Iraq was "vigorously trying to procure uranium" in Africa.

The first of those conversations, according to the evidence made known thus far, came when Libby met with Bob Woodward, an assistant managing editor of The Washington Post, on June 27, 2003. In sworn testimony for Fitzgerald, according to a statement Woodward released on Nov. 14, 2005, Woodward said Libby told him of the intelligence estimate's description of Iraqi efforts to obtain "yellowcake," a processed form of natural uranium ore, in Africa. In an interview Friday, Woodward said his notes showed that Libby described those efforts as "vigorous."

Libby's next known meeting with a reporter, according to Fitzgerald's legal filing, was with Judith Miller, then of the New York Times, on July 8, 2003. He spoke again to Miller, and to Time magazine's Matt Cooper, on July 12.

At Cheney's instruction, Libby testified, he told Miller that the uranium story was a "key judgment" of the intelligence estimate, a term of art indicating there was consensus on a question of central importance.

In fact, the alleged effort to buy uranium was not among the estimate's key judgments, which were identified by a headline and bold type and set out in bullet form in the first five pages of the 96-page document.

Unknown to the reporters, the uranium claim lay deeper inside the estimate, where it said a fresh supply of uranium ore would "shorten the time Baghdad needs to produce nuclear weapons." But it also said U.S. intelligence did not know the status of Iraq's procurement efforts, "cannot confirm" any success and had "inconclusive" evidence about Iraq's domestic uranium operations.

Iraq's alleged uranium shopping had been strongly disputed in the intelligence community from the start. In a closed Senate hearing in late September 2002, shortly before the October NIE was completed, then-director of central intelligence George J. Tenet and his top weapons analyst, Robert Walpole, expressed strong doubts about the uranium story, which had recently been unveiled publicly by the British government. The State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research, likewise, called the claim "highly dubious." For those reasons, the uranium story was relegated to a brief inside passage in the October estimate.

But the White House Iraq Group, formed in August 2002 to foster "public education" about Iraq's "grave and gathering danger" to the United States, repeatedly pitched the uranium story. The alleged procurement was a minor issue for most U.S. analysts -- the hard part for Iraq would be enriching uranium, not obtaining the ore, and Niger's controlled market made it an unlikely seller -- but the Niger story proved irresistible to speechwriters. Most nuclear arguments were highly technical, but the public could easily grasp the link between uranium and a bomb.

Tenet interceded to keep the claim out of a speech Bush gave in Cincinnati on Oct. 7, 2002, but by Dec. 19 it reappeared in a State Department "fact sheet." After that, the Pentagon asked for an authoritative judgment from the National Intelligence Council, the senior coordinating body for the 15 agencies that then constituted the U.S. intelligence community. Did Iraq and Niger discuss a uranium sale, or not? If they had, the Pentagon would need to reconsider its ties with Niger.

The council's reply, drafted in a January 2003 memo by the national intelligence officer for Africa, was unequivocal: The Niger story was baseless and should be laid to rest. Four U.S. officials with firsthand knowledge said in interviews that the memo, which has not been reported before, arrived at the White House as Bush and his highest-ranking advisers made the uranium story a centerpiece of their case for the rapidly approaching war against Iraq.

Bush put his prestige behind the uranium story in his Jan. 28, 2003, State of the Union address. Less than two months later, the International Atomic Energy Agency exposed the principal U.S. evidence as bogus. A Bush-appointed commission later concluded that the evidence, a set of contracts and correspondence sold by an Italian informant, was "transparently forged."

On the ground in Iraq, meanwhile, the hunt for weapons of mass destruction was producing no results, and as the bad news converged on the White House -- weeks after a banner behind Bush declared "Mission Accomplished" on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln -- Wilson emerged as a key critic. He focused his ire on Cheney, who had made the administration's earliest and strongest claims about Iraq's alleged nuclear program.

Fitzgerald wrote that Cheney and his aides saw Wilson as a threat to "the credibility of the Vice President (and the President) on a matter of signal importance: the rationale for the war in Iraq." They decided to respond by implying that Wilson got his CIA assignment by "nepotism."

They were not alone. Fitzgerald reported for the first time this week that "multiple officials in the White House"-- not only Libby and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who have previously been identified -- discussed Plame's CIA employment with reporters before and after publication of her name on July 14, 2003, in a column by Robert D. Novak. Fitzgerald said the grand jury has collected so much testimony and so many documents that "it is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to 'punish' Wilson."

At the same time, top officials such as then-deputy national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley were pressing the CIA to declassify more documents in hopes of defending the president's use of the uranium claim in his State of the Union speech. It was a losing battle. A "senior Bush administration official," speaking on the condition of anonymity as the president departed for Africa on July 7, 2003, told The Post that "the reference to Iraq's attempt to acquire uranium from Africa should not have been included in the State of the Union speech." The comment appeared on the front page of the July 8 paper, the same morning that Libby met Miller at the St. Regis hotel.

Libby was still defending the uranium claim as the administration's internal battle burst into the open. White House officials tried to blame Tenet for the debacle, but Tenet made public his intervention to keep uranium out of Bush's speech a few months earlier. Hadley then acknowledged that he had known of Tenet's objections but forgot them as the State of the Union approached.

Hoping to lay the controversy to rest, Hadley claimed responsibility for the Niger remarks.

In a speech two days later, at the American Enterprise Institute, Cheney defended the war by saying that no responsible leader could ignore the evidence in the NIE. Before a roomful of conservative policymakers, Cheney listed four of the "key judgments" on Iraq's alleged weapons capabilities but made no mention of Niger or uranium.

On July 30, 2003, two senior intelligence officials said in an interview that Niger was never an important part of the CIA's analysis, and that the language of Iraq's vigorous pursuit of uranium came verbatim from a Defense Intelligence Agency report that had caught the vice president's attention. The same day, the CIA referred the Plame leak to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution, the fateful step that would eventually lead to Libby's indictment.

Researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.

© 2006 The Washington Post Company (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/08/AR2006040800916.html)

ODShowtime
04-09-2006, 02:25 PM
Fitzgerald reported for the first time this week that "multiple officials in the White House"-- not only Libby and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who have previously been identified -- discussed Plame's CIA employment with reporters before and after publication of her name on July 14, 2003, in a column by Robert D. Novak. Fitzgerald said the grand jury has collected so much testimony and so many documents that "it is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to 'punish' Wilson."

Yeah, this was a "no story" :rolleyes:

There's no evidence to show that this whole administration is a bunch of crooks?

Big Train, meet Fitzgerald!

Now that this will be proven, everything else we accuse them of is much more believable.

DLR'sCock
04-09-2006, 02:56 PM
tick tock...

Hardrock69
04-10-2006, 10:18 AM
Here is another angle.

Basically that Cheney and his organ-grinder monkey Chimpy authoriized the declassification of intel ONLY WHEN IT SUITED THEIR AGENDA. When it was intel that did not support what they wanted the public to hear, they would not authorize the declassification of it:


Libby testimony shows a White House pattern of intelligence leaks
BY WARREN P. STROBEL AND RON HUTCHESON
Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - The revelation that President Bush authorized former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby to divulge classified information about Iraq fits a pattern of selective leaks of secret intelligence to further the administration's political agenda.

Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other top officials have reacted angrily at unauthorized leaks, such as the exposure of a domestic wiretapping program and a network of secret CIA prisons, both of which are now the subject of far-reaching investigations.

But secret information that supports their policies, particularly about the Iraq war, has surfaced everywhere from the U.N. Security Council to major newspapers and magazines. Much of the information that the administration leaked or declassified, however, has proved to be incomplete, exaggerated, incorrect or fabricated.

Court papers filed late Wednesday by Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald quote Libby as telling a grand jury that Bush, via Cheney, authorized him to reveal the key judgments of a National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction to New York Times reporter Judith Miller. The president and vice president have virtually unlimited legal authority to declassify government secrets.

The authorized leak, in July 2003, came two days after former Ambassador Joseph Wilson wrote an article in The New York Times charging that the White House had manipulated intelligence on Iraq's alleged quest for uranium ore from Africa to make its case for war.

Libby isn't charged with revealing or mishandling classified information, but with five counts of perjury, obstruction of justice and lying to the FBI about the unmasking of Wilson's wife, former CIA covert operative Valerie Plame.

On Friday, White House officials said that the administration declassified information to rebut charges that Bush was manipulating intelligence.

Without specifically acknowledging Bush's actions in the Libby case, White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters: "There were irresponsible and unfounded accusations being made against the administration suggesting that we had manipulated or misused that intelligence. We felt it was very much in the public interest that what information could be declassified be declassified."

McClellan didn't address why administration officials often declassified information that supported their allegations about Iraq but not intelligence that undercut their claims.

Robert Hutchings, the chairman of the National Intelligence Council from January 2003 to February 2005, said there was nothing improper about Bush's reported actions.

However, Hutchings said, "The decision to put in the public domain classified information, whether through a leak or through the formal authorization" shouldn't be done for "political convenience."

"There should be some higher purpose," he said.

Libby's allegation, which the White House hasn't disputed, isn't the first time that the Bush administration has declassified secrets in an effort to bolster its case for a pre-emptive war against Iraq.

The White House declassified a range of material, including spy satellite photographs and highly sensitive intercepts of Iraqi military communications, when former Secretary of State Colin Powell went before the U.N. Security Council in February 2003 to argue that Iraq was an international threat.

Powell's presentation, it's now known, came after he and his State Department team spent several days at CIA headquarters going over the intelligence on Iraq and tossing out dozens of pages of questionable material that Cheney's office pressed him to include.

In September 2002, unnamed Bush administration officials told The New York Times that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was trying to acquire specially designed aluminum tubes for use in centrifuges to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons. Experts in the Energy Department and elsewhere, however, didn't think that the tubes were designed for nuclear weapons, and it's now known that they weren't.

Nevertheless, Cheney, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and Powell took to the Sunday television talk shows on the morning that the report was published to warn of a growing threat from Saddam. Rice used some of the same language that appeared in the newspaper story, warning that, "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

As the war approached, the White House released other documents and statements containing allegations about Saddam's weapons and ties to terrorism, many of which included information from Iraqi defectors and other sources that already had been discredited.

Among those was a document published in October 2002, titled "Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs," which was a public version of the National Intelligence Estimate's main points - but with doubts and dissents stripped out.

Steven Aftergood, an expert on government secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, said that while it doesn't appear that Bush did anything illegal in the Libby case, "it does appear that the president engaged in selective declassification for purposes of political advantage."

The latest revelations could affect a long-running partisan feud over a Senate Intelligence Committee probe into the administration's use of intelligence.

Committee chairman Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said this week that he hopes to complete drafts of a report following Congress' Easter recess.

Democratic leaders on Friday renewed their call for a full investigation into Bush's use of intelligence and the release of Plame's identity.

The White House's McClellan took issue with suggestions that the leak to Miller called into question the sincerity of Bush's frequent complaints about government leaks.

"There is a difference between providing declassified information to the public when it's in the public interest and leaking classified information that involved sensitive national intelligence regarding our security," he said.

Still, when leaks of classified information help make the White House's case, officials haven't always complained.

In November 2003, the conservative magazine The Weekly Standard published highly classified raw intelligence purporting to a show a link between Saddam and al-Qaida.

The Pentagon disavowed the report. But in early January 2004, Cheney told the Rocky Mountain News newspaper that the magazine report was the "best source of information" about the Saddam/al-Qaida connection. That connection has never been proved.


http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/14291966.htm