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rustoffa
04-16-2006, 12:51 AM
IMO, it sounds like something that should have been on Metamorphosis. The rest of that album sucks. Well, maybe one other song was decent.

Discuss, and flame on.
:)

FORD
04-16-2006, 02:51 AM
You have to eat 20 hits of acid every day for a month before you can begin to understand that album. And that's coming from the biggest Rolling Stones fan on this planet.

I usually just listen to 2000 Man and 2000 Light Years From Home, and forget the rest.

Obviously the Stones had to make an answer to Sgt. Pepper, but this was the wrong answer. I blame it on Brian Jones because he was probably the true musical innovator in the group, but by that point he was only thinking about new ways to get high, rather than new ways to make music :(

Jérôme Frenchise
04-16-2006, 06:27 PM
"2000 man" and "2000 light years from home" were really great, but "She's a rainbow" was beautiful, and "On with the show" was excellent IMO (could have even been released on "Beggars Banquet" I think). Even Bill Wyman's funny "In another land" is kickass.
In fact, I dig the whole album! :D

ABKCO's DSD remastering made it even greater. The Decca albums sound stellar now. :cool:

Jérôme Frenchise
04-16-2006, 06:53 PM
The lyrics of "Citadel" are about er... :confused:

Men at arms shout "Who goes there?"
We have journeyed far from here
Armed with bibles make us swear

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

Flags are flying dollar bills
Round the heights of concrete hills
You can see the pinnacles

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

In the streets of many walls
Hear the peasants come and crawl
You can hear their numbers called

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

Screaming people fly so fast
In their shiny metal cars
Through the woods of steel and glass

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

:D

rustoffa
04-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Pretty heavy riff in that song for the timeframe as well.

FORD
04-17-2006, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
The lyrics of "Citadel" are about er... :confused:

Men at arms shout "Who goes there?"
We have journeyed far from here
Armed with bibles make us swear

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

Flags are flying dollar bills
Round the heights of concrete hills
You can see the pinnacles

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

In the streets of many walls
Hear the peasants come and crawl
You can hear their numbers called

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

Screaming people fly so fast
In their shiny metal cars
Through the woods of steel and glass

Candy and Cathy, hope you both are well
Please come see me in the citadel

:D


Now that I actually look at the lyrics, and think of the time that the album was written, I'd say Mick wrote that one when he was in jail on the infamous 1967 drug bust at Keith's house in Redlands.

BTW, the much hyped "Mars bar incident" never actually happenned, according to Marianne Faithful.

Of course I tried it out myself on an old girlfriend before I knew that :eatit:

Redballjets88
04-17-2006, 12:46 AM
"Mars bar incident" sounds interesting...might i ask what this is?

FORD
04-17-2006, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
"Mars bar incident" sounds interesting...might i ask what this is?

There was a major rumor that when the police busted in on Mick Jagger and his then-girlfriend Marianne Faithful, he was eating a Mars bar that was stuck in her pussy.

Redballjets88
04-17-2006, 01:09 AM
haha thats awesome

a buddy of mine used a popsicle on a chick and ate it

Jérôme Frenchise
04-17-2006, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Now that I actually look at the lyrics, and think of the time that the album was written, I'd say Mick wrote that one when he was in jail on the infamous 1967 drug bust at Keith's house in Redlands.

BTW, the much hyped "Mars bar incident" never actually happenned, according to Marianne Faithful.

Of course I tried it out myself on an old girlfriend before I knew that :eatit:

I also thought about the jail sentences Keith and Mick were given for drug charges (Brian avoided prison...), but it's less obvious than "We love you", the 7" record they released afterwards.

The Who decided to release Stones songs as long as Mick & Keith wouldn't be out of jail... They recorded and published their versions of "Under my Thumb" and another one I don't remember now, in support to their peers.
This is where, among many other facts, the Who unquestionably rule IMO. :cool:

As for the Mars bar incident... FORD, you did it because Mick was supposed to have done it, didn't you? ;)

BTW, what man would have needed to insert a Mars bar to "pay homage" to sweet Marianne anyway? :D

http://gallery.phillyburbs.com/photos/297/43.aspx

What on earth could be on Mick's mind at that very moment? :eek: