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Hardrock69
04-24-2006, 01:59 PM
Every step of the fucking way this fucking asshole keeps trying to do everything in his power to ALLOW ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, and to STOP those people who rightfully and lawfully feel that illegal immigrants are actually here illegally.

Fucking dumbass!!

What the fuck is his agenda?

Does he like the idea of indentured servitude? Or Slavery?

Does he see his supply of cheap landscapers and laborers flying out the window if the American People actually decide to enforce immigration laws?



By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer 8 minutes ago

IRVINE, Calif. -
President Bush, rebutting lawmakers advocating a law-and-order approach to immigration, said Monday that those who are calling for massive deportation of the estimated 11 million foreigners living illegally in the United States are not being realistic.

"Massive deportation of the people here is not going to work," Bush said as a Congress divided over immigration returned from a two-week recess. "It's just not going to work."

In addition to speaking here, Bush was meeting Tuesday with a bipartisan group of senators at the White House to press his case.

Bush spoke in support of a stalled Senate bill that includes provisions that would allow for eventual citizenship to some of the illegal immigrants already here. Some conservatives say that would amount to amnesty.

"This is one of the really important questions Congress is going to have to deal with," Bush said. The president said he thought the Senate "had an interesting approach by saying that if you'd been here for five years or less, you're treated one way, and five years or more, you're treated another."

Standing in the center of a theater in the round-type setting with an audience full of business people, Bush spoke sympathetically about the plight of foreigners who risk their lives to sneak into the United States to earn a decent wage. He said the U.S. needs a temporary guest worker program to stop people from paying to be smuggled in the back of a truck.

"I know this is an emotional debate," Bush told the Orange County Business Council. "But one thing we can't lose sight of is that we are talking about human beings, decent human beings."

Several hundred demonstrators from both sides of the immigration issue protested outside Bush's speech.

More than an hour before Bush arrived, protesters from the Minuteman Project — the volunteer border patrol group whose co-founder ran for Congress in Orange County — were chanting "Go back to Mexico" and "God Bless America."

Across a driveway, a cluster of demonstrators also chanted and waved peace signs to protest the Minuteman group, Bush's immigration policy and the war in
Iraq. In all, there were about 250 protesters, split evenly between both sides.

Lawmakers, with an eye on Election Day in just over six months, remain far apart on whether to crack down on illegal immigrants or embrace them as vital contributors to the U.S. economy.

Bush said it's important to enforce border laws that are on the books and boasted that 6 million immigrants have been captured and turned back since he took office.

"You can be a nation of law and be a compassionate nation at the same time," he said to applause.

The White House's immediate goal is to get legislation approved by the Senate and into a conference committee. The president's aides hope a compromise can be reached with House members who passed a tougher bill that would impose criminal penalties on those who try to sneak into this country and would build fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., intends to seek passage of immigration legislation by Memorial Day by reviving the Senate bill that stalled earlier this month due to internal disputes in both parties as well as political maneuvering.

In a gesture to conservative critics of the measure, Republican leadership aides said last week that Frist also will seek roughly $2 billion in immediate additional spending for border protection.

After his immigration speech, Bush was ending a four-day stay in California that also featured speeches on U.S. competitiveness and his energy plan, meetings with Gov.
Arnold Schwarzenegger and former President Ford and plenty of time on his bike.

Bush's massive entourage took an overnight detour to Napa Valley just so he could bike through the picturesque wine country Saturday, and he rode Sunday morning to a peak overlooking Palm Springs.

He planned to stop in Las Vegas on his way home Monday to raise money for Republican Rep. Jon Porter (news, bio, voting record) at the Venetian Resort Hotel Casino.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_immigration

FORD
04-24-2006, 02:07 PM
As much as I hate to agree with the Chimp, it's not very realistic to think you can round up 11 million people, especially after the way he's bankrupted the country.

But that's a completely seperate issue from what to do about preventing another 11 million from walking in.

As far as monkey boy's motives, I'm sure his family "agricultural imports" business has something to do with it.

Hardrock69
04-24-2006, 02:19 PM
I certainly agree with the one point: How to round up 11 million people and ship them back where they came from.

HOWEVER, the sooner we begin, the sooner we will be done.

INS got a head start last week when they held Raid Parties for a whole bunch of illegal immigrants.


But the the part of this that bothers me really is that Chimpy tries to appear as if he is a conservative, but then does not walk the walk.

He is a fucking criminal, and he is trying to help 11 million other criminals.

If that is not an impeachable offense, I don't know what is....

BigBadBrian
04-24-2006, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by FORD
As much as I hate to agree with the Chimp, it's not very realistic to think you can round up 11 million people, especially after the way he's bankrupted the country.

But that's a completely seperate issue from what to do about preventing another 11 million from walking in.

As far as monkey boy's motives, I'm sure his family "agricultural imports" business has something to do with it.

I knew you'd do a double spin and backtrack on your bitching of the Bush Administration when you were complaining about his amnesty program last year.

As much as I can't believe it, I agree with HR on this one.

:gulp:

Guitar Shark
04-24-2006, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
What the fuck is his agenda?


1. Courting the Hispanic vote. Hispanics have been voting increasingly republican in recent years.

2. He probably believes that illegal immigrants provide a valuable economic service to the country in the form of cheap labor that no one else will do for the same price.

Warham
04-24-2006, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I knew you'd do a double spin and backtrack on your bitching of the Bush Administration when you were complaining about his amnesty program last year.

As much as I can't believe it, I agree with HR on this one.

:gulp:

Brian, you're just supposed to post op/eds. No personal opinions please, per certain members here.

BigBadBrian
04-24-2006, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark

2. He probably believes that illegal immigrants provide a valuable economic service to the country in the form of cheap labor that no one else will do for the same price.

I agree with both of your points, but the latter makes me think of an interview I saw on CNN:

An owner of an apple orchard stated that Americans wouldn't pick apples for $20 an hour like the illegals he hired would. I say Bullshit.

I'll bet those grocery store clerks, fast food workers, and Wal-mart workers would sure as hell work at that job for that wage.

Pay a worker enough, he'll do anything.

:gulp:

Guitar Shark
04-24-2006, 04:40 PM
I find it hard to believe that illegals are making $20 an hour to pick apples.

FORD
04-24-2006, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I knew you'd do a double spin and backtrack on your bitching of the Bush Administration when you were complaining about his amnesty program last year.

As much as I can't believe it, I agree with HR on this one.

:gulp:

I haven't backtracked on shit. I've been saying that border security is fucked all along. It's just not realistic to think that you can track down 11 million people when this country is 9 trillion dollars in debt to an illegal and pointless war.

Nitro Express
04-24-2006, 05:00 PM
We could track down most of the illegal alliens but it would require desolving the Constitution and using Nazi SS and gestapo tactics. Once word got out we were throwing illegal alliens into Alaskan gulag workcamps they would stream back over the borders in droves.

Solving illegal immigration is easy. You make their live here worse than it was where they came from.

FORD
04-24-2006, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
We could track down most of the illegal alliens but it would require desolving the Constitution and using Nazi SS and gestapo tactics.

Oh, well if that's all it takes then we're about 75% there already.....

BigBadBrian
04-24-2006, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I find it hard to believe that illegals are making $20 an hour to pick apples.

So do I, but I think the clown was just trying to make a point...a ridiculous one at that.

:gulp:

BITEYOASS
04-24-2006, 06:10 PM
Bush's philosophy is simple, keep em illegal and sent back to the border often so won't try to collaborate with the United Farm Workers union.

ULTRAMAN VH
04-24-2006, 07:46 PM
There is no question that the current Administration and Vincente Fox have some back room deals going. The embarrassing point is that it makes Bush look like a tool. Fox is laughing his ass off, because now he is in a race with China to see who will run the U.S. in 10 years.

FORD
04-24-2006, 10:55 PM
Schwarzenegger Blasts Idea of Border Wall

Apr 24, 2006

By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Sunday said that building a 700-mile wall along the Mexican border to deter illegal immigration would amount to "going back to the Stone Ages," and instead urged the use of high-tech gear and more patrols to secure the nation's southern boundary.

"We are landing men on the moon and in outer space using all these great things. I think that other technology really can secure the borders," the Republican governor said in an interview on ABC's "This Week."

"If I say now, 'Yes, let's build the wall,' what would prevent you from building a tunnel? I mean, we've detected tunnels left and right that people can drive trucks through," he added.

The comments were Schwarzenegger's most detailed to date on the wall proposal, which was included in legislation enacted in the U.S. House of Representatives. Schwarzenegger has said previously that fences might be appropriate in some areas, but raised doubts about the effectiveness of a wall snaking along the border.

Speaking on ABC, the governor said, "I think that it will be ludicrous to limit yourself to just building a wall. We're going back to the Stone Ages here."

But he also suggested practical and symbolic reasons to oppose the proposal. He alluded to the Berlin Wall, suggesting that such a structure on the U.S. border would send the wrong message to Mexico, "our friends ... our trading partners."

Schwarzenegger, a native of Austria, also repeated his opposition to amnesty for illegal immigrants, but provided few specifics of what requirements an illegal immigrant should have to meet to achieve legal status.

He also said it's unrealistic to consider uprooting or driving out the nation's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.

"It would cost $500 billion. Who's going to pay for that?" he asked.

Schwarzenegger immigrated to the U.S. in 1968 and became a naturalized citizen in 1984, but has retained his Austrian citizenship.

BITEYOASS
04-24-2006, 11:27 PM
Absolutely, there just gonna either dig tunnels under it or find new ways to go over it. It would be better to have the national guard patroling the area and if someone crosses the border armed (i.e. Mexican Army, drug lords), then shoot to kill.