Kiss?

[binnie]

What's anyone opinions on Kiss?

I love the seventies stuff, but I'm never too sure after that, I think thy descended into self parody.

Thought that there should be a thread though, since Gene Simmons "discovered" Van Halen.

[binnie]

Alive could be the greatest live record ever?

Right up there with "No Sleep...."

[binnie]

They were no Aerosmith though.

Period.

[knerken]

Eeeeh.. Kiss?.....Eeeh... I don't know..... they kinda rock

[binnie]

I think it's the case that they used to rock big time in the '70's.

and now they don't!

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Back in the mid seventies these guys were larger than life. But four very different personalities can only co-exist for so long, before the foundation cracks into pieces. If Ace and Peter had stayed off the substances and focused on playing music, they may have gone on a little longer. Simmons the Business Man turned the band into a traveling Walt Disney act for 8 to 12 year olds. Lets face it when your 17 the last thing you want to be listening to is music being adored by 10 year old kids. I would say they were really something special from 74 to 77. What separated VH from KISS was musical talent. VH had both showmanship and musicianship. You can't go wrong with that combo, hence the deterioration of Van Halen's live performances when Hagar joined the fold. The visual element of the band disintigrated with the departure of The Diamond One, sending VH into the category of mediocrity.

[The_KiD]

The 70's stuff was great. I mean I grew up with pictures of them on my wall as a child. Ace Frehley is responsible for me picking up a Guitar and playing it...

I have a remaster of "Alive" that still gets rotation... It is a real shame that Gene and Paul have turned the band into a glorified tribute act...

KiD

[knerken]

But seriously... This picture says it all!

[binnie]

Sorry man, but Ace is cool


One of the greats, listen to "Cold Gin"

[knerken]

Cold Gin rocks! Another great Ace song is Shock Me! The guitar solo on that song is the shit! :D

[binnie]

So you gotta admit that Kiss WERE awesome, right?

Best album, IMO "Dressed to Kill"

[knerken]

Have I said that Kiss ain't awesome?

And yeah, DTK is a kick-ass album, except for Anyting For My baby. hate that song!

[binnie]

Is Paul Stanley gay?

Not that it affects how awesome Kiss are, just wondering

Pretty sure Gene ain't!

[knerken]

Originally posted by binnie
Is Paul Stanley gay?



he's wearing a thong...

[binnie]

Ha Ha!

Just finished lisdtening to Destroyer, fucking incredible

[The_KiD]

Actually there is a New Ace Frehley "Greatist Hits Live" on iTunes. I grabbed the following singles.. "Rip it Out", Cold Gin", "Shock Me", and "New York Groove".

Nice to see he is still breathing.. Talk about record amounts of drug use..

KiD

[Terry]

Still dig and listen to most of the stuff they did up through Creatures (although Dynasty, Unmasked and The Elder don't get much play by me anymore)...

After Creatures, I don't really care for much they put out. Lick It Up and Animalize are listenable, but from Asylum through Hot In The Shade...well, that stuff is just average, and I don't really bother with pedestrian fare...life's too fucking short to spend time yawning along with Hide Your Heart, you know? Revenge was okay, but in many ways only stood out in comparison to the swill the band had been putting out since 1985.

Put it to you this way: if I went to a KISS show, they could choose to only play tunes from the first album up through Love Gun and I wouldn't feel cheated. That's usually my barometer for a band's essential catalog (ex: Aerosmith and Get Your Wings through Pump, Van Halen and 1978's Van Halen through 1984).

Now, the band is just a joke. I'd say the whole reunion business wore out its welcome for me around 2000. These days it's flogging a dead horse, but as long as people keep turning up, it'll keep continuing. Even for a band like KISS, which was always as much about making a buck as it was making music, I'd think there would come a point where continuing on the way they are going would seem tasteless, but Gene's greed is pretty limitless, and he knows nobody's gonna pay attention to him and shell their money over unless he keeps slopping on the greasepaint, so there you go.

And yes, Paul Stanley is defintitely NOT the most masculine man to front a rock band...his nonstop prancing, preening and feminine posturing has caused more than one person to wonder, or at the very least do a doubletake and raise the eyebrows...

Blouse-wearing buttercup.

[Vinnie Velvet]

KISS is one of my all-time favorite bands. I grew up listening to them.

Even when there are countless number of bands that are musically better than KISS, there is just something about the band that I liked.

Back in the day, it was the whole package. Not just the music (which from 1974-1977 is awesome), but the image, the stage show, the ATTITUDE.

I mean, there's a lot of flash and attitude when you look at the old makeup pics from the 70s and early 80s. They were really "LARGER THAN LIFE".

They certainly had IT.

Now, song wise, they certainly had their fair share of stinkers in the 80s.

And I absolutely hate with a passion on what they're doing now (Eric and Tommy in Ace and Peter's makeup and costumes).

But I still listen to the albums that get me going (Alive!, Dressed to Kill, Destroyer, etc. are CLASSICS.)

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by knerken
he's wearing a thong...

they look like they only had one wig for the photo-shooting and had to share it :D

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=922109

[binnie]

Ha Ha

[m_dixon1984]

KISS is cool. MiniKISS is the fucking shit!!

M

[binnie]

Hell yeah!

Anyone seen this band Live?

If so, any good?

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by The_KiD
Actually there is a New Ace Frehley "Greatist Hits Live" on iTunes. I grabbed the following singles.. "Rip it Out", Cold Gin", "Shock Me", and "New York Groove".

Nice to see he is still breathing.. Talk about record amounts of drug use..

KiD


Rip It Out

Now i know, you've been cheatin' and lyin' all the time
I didn't know you were gonna be so unkind
I've been trying just to find out how we went wrong
But i know that i can't trust you girl anymore
Chorus:
Rip it out, take my heart, you wanted it from the start
You got it now, so goodbye, so rip it out, watch me cry

It's so sad, i'm not glad to be with you today
And it's bad, 'cos i can't stop the pain day by day
If i knew how to stop you, i don't think i'd try
I think it's better if we just part and don't say goodbye

Chorus

I hope you suffer!

Chorus repeats 2x

Rip it out (repeats out)

[binnie]

It's Gin time again, you know it's the only thing,

That keeps us TOGGGETHHEERRRRRRRRRR-YEAH!

You wanted the best and you got the best fuckers!

[binnie]

Just finished listening to "Alive II"

it's not the original, but it's still a classic!

[ULTRAMAN VH]

I think the stand out tune on Alive 2 is Shock Me. Ace just kicked ass on that tune and the rest of the band was tighter than Tom Thumb's ass.

[binnie]

Couldn't agree more!

[Shaun Ponsonby]

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=922109

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Never been a fan. One or two good tunes, but thats all that interests me. You could get a great KISS compilation album on a single disc as far as I'm concerned.

[binnie]

Ouch!

As far as "Fuck me, suck me" songs go, nobody does it better!

[Shaun Ponsonby]

I've just always seen it as "We're not good musicians so lets get attention by wearing make-up". Same as Twisted Sister, same as Slipknot.

[knerken]

Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
I've just always seen it as "We're not good musicians so lets get attention by wearing make-up". Same as Twisted Sister, same as Slipknot.

You can't compare KISS with other make-up bands, because KISS were one of the first make-up bands. Twisted and Slipknot did it because they were inspired by KISS!
Also, KISS are actually good musicians ;)

[Shaun Ponsonby]

And Kiss stole it from Alice Cooper.

Actually, Jay Jay French from Twisted Sister was in Wicked Leicster. True dat.

[knerken]

Yeah I know Alice was before them. Kiss was one of the first.

[binnie]

the make-up was just a gimmick.

You don't have to be great players to make great music.

Kiss (used to) Rock!

[Shaun Ponsonby]

I didn't say that.

[binnie]

Ok, misinterpreted what you meant.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Apologise, or I'll visit you in the small hours and put a weasel in your bed.

[binnie]

Sorry dude

Hey, I quite like weasels!

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Good, for a moment there I thought you were one of those squirrel lovers. My Alan, I hate those bastards.

[binnie]

Ha Ha, you are one crazy CAT

[Bill Lumbergh]

Paul and Gene have ALWAYS denied that Jay Jay French was EVER a part of Wicked Lester............

[Shaun Ponsonby]

But, he was. So, there.

[ElPatron]

KISS?
Favorite band ever.

[binnie]

I can understand that, there certainly a lot of fun