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Hardrock69
06-07-2006, 09:27 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) — Determined to win the Cold War, the CIA kept quiet about the whereabouts of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in the 1950s for fear he might expose undercover anti-communist efforts in West Germany, according to documents released Tuesday.

The 27,000 pages released by the National Archives are among the largest post-World War II declassifications by the CIA. They offer a window into the shadowy world of U.S. intelligence — and the efforts to use former Nazi war criminals as spies, sometimes to detrimental effect.

The war criminals "peddled hearsay and gossip, whether to escape retribution for past crimes, or for mercenary gain, or for political agendas not necessarily compatible with American national interests," Robert Wolfe, an expert on German history and former archivist at the National Archives, said at a news briefing announcing the document release.

In a March 19, 1958, memo to the CIA, West German intelligence officials wrote that they knew where Eichmann was hiding. Eichmann played a key role in transporting Jews to death camps during World War II. "He is reported to have lived in Argentina under the alias 'Clemens' since 1952," authorities wrote.

But neither side acted on that information because they worried what he might say about Hans Globke, a highly placed former Nazi and a chief adviser in West Germany helping the U.S. coordinate anti-communist initiatives in that country.

Two years later, when Jewish authorities captured Eichmann, the CIA pressured journalists to delete references to Globke.

"Entire material has been read. One obscure mention of Globke which Life omitting at our request," CIA Director Allen Dulles wrote in a Sept. 20, 1960, internal memorandum, after Life magazine purchased Eichmann's memoir.

Among the other findings:

• Former Nazi officers such as Heinz Felfe, who served in the "Gehlen organization" — the West German intelligence service which in its early years was sponsored by the U.S. Army and then the CIA — were typically hired by the Soviet Union to be double agents.

•The CIA routinely misled U.S. immigration officials in the mid-1970s about the role of CIA agent Tscherim Soobzokov and his connection to Nazi war crimes.

The documents were among the latest released under a 1999 law — resisted by the CIA — that called for disclosure of government records related to war crimes committed by the Nazi and Japanese governments.

"CIA has been struggling with the nettlesome problem of how to balance the public's interest in the historical record of CIA's connections to Nazis, and an intelligence agency's need ... to protect the identities of sources," said Stanley Moskowitz, a former CIA official who is now a consultant to the agency.

"The passage of time has shifted the balance," he said.

Material relating to Japanese war crimes were scheduled to be released later this summer.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-06-cia-nazis_x.htm

binnie
06-07-2006, 01:55 PM
Is it sad that that doesn't surprise me?


Sad world we live in...

FORD
06-07-2006, 02:51 PM
Considering that the people who founded the CIA were the very same people that funded Hitler in the first place, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

This was a BCE operation. Prescott Bush, the Harrimans, the Dulles brothers, etc. And a young lawyer named Richard Milhous Nixon, whom Prescott Bush hired in 1946 for this very purpose, covering Nazi ass.

He was rewarded for his duties with a political career and lifetime membership in the BCE.

binnie
06-07-2006, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Considering that the people who founded the CIA were the very same people that funded Hitler in the first place, this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

This was a BCE operation. Prescott Bush, the Harrimans, the Dulles brothers, etc. And a young lawyer named Richard Milhous Nixon, whom Prescott Bush hired in 1946 for this very purpose, covering Nazi ass.

He was rewarded for his duties with a political career and lifetime membership in the BCE.


Really?

I didn't know that, has anyone ever gone into print saying that?

matt19
06-07-2006, 03:46 PM
Everything was a BCE operation right?

binnie
06-07-2006, 03:48 PM
Gonna have to plead ignorance here, what is the BCE?

FORD
06-07-2006, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by matt19
Everything was a BCE operation right?

You need to do your homework. You can find a whole lot with a simple Google search.

Lucky for you.... I actually had to read a lot of this stuff in books before Al Gore invented the Internet.

FORD
06-07-2006, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by binnie
Gonna have to plead ignorance here, what is the BCE?

Bush
Criminal
Empire

Bringing treason to America since 1924.....

binnie
06-07-2006, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Bush
Criminal
Empire

Bringing treason to America since 1924.....

thanks again for the clarification Ford.

Can you post some links so I can read up on that?

FORD
06-07-2006, 03:58 PM
In this section we will explore the Nazi connections of Richard Nixon. To do so we must return to the years just after the end of World War II and, of course, a man named Dulles.

The irony of Nixon's political career ending with a cover-up can only be appreciated with the knowledge that this turbulent career also began with one. Loftus and Aarons state that:

"According to several of our sources among the "old spies," Richard Nixon's political career began in 1945, when he was the navy officer temporarily assigned to review . . . captured Nazi documents." The documents in question revealed the wartime record of Karl Blessing, "former Reichsbank officer and then head of the Nazi oil cartel, Kontinentale Ol A.G. "Konti" was in partnership with Dulles's principal Nazi client, I.G. Farben. Both companies had despicable records regarding their treatment of Jews during the Holocaust. After the war Dulles not only "lost" Blessings Nazi party records, but he helped peddle a false biography in the ever-gullible "New York Times."

The authors' sources reveal that not only did Dulles help cover up his Nazi client's record, he "personally vouched for Blessing as an anti-Nazi in order to protect continued control of German oil interests in the Middle East. Blessing's Konti was the Nazi link to Iben Saud [King of Saudi Arabia] and Aramco [the Arabian- American Oil Company]. If Blessing went down, he could have taken a lot of people with him, including Allen Dulles. The cover-up worked, except that U.S. Naval Intelligence scrutinized a set of the captured Konti records."

According to the "old spies," Allen Dulles made a deal with the young navy officer who was reviewing the Konti files - Richard Nixon. Nixon would help Dulles bury the Konti files. In return, Allen Dulles "arranged to finance [Nixon's] first congressional campaign against Jerry Voorhis." (1)

Dulles's support for Nixon paid off in 1947 when, as the freshman congressman from California, he "saved John Foster Dulles considerable embarrassment by privately pointing out that confidential government files showed that one of Foster's foundation employees, Alger Hiss, was allegedly a Communist. The Dulles brothers took Nixon under their wing and escorted him on a tour of Fascist "freedom fighter" operations in Germany, apparently in anticipation that the young congressman would be useful after Dewey became president." [He would be useful anyway, despite the fact that incumbent President Truman won reelection in 1948, defeating Dewey.] (2)

After Truman's victory, write the authors, "Nixon became Allen Dulles's mouthpiece in Congress. Both he and Senator Joseph McCarthy received volumes of classified information to support the charge that the Truman administration was filled with "pinkos." When McCarthy went too far in his Communist investigations, it was Nixon who worked with his next-door neighbor, CIA director Bedell Smith, to steer the investigations away from the intelligence community.

"The CIA was grateful for Nixon's assistance, but did not know the reason for it. Dulles had been recruiting Nazis under the cover of the State Department's Office of Policy Coordination, whose chief, Frank Wisner, had systematically recruited the Eastern European emigre networks that had worked first for the SS, then the British, and finally Dulles.

"The CIA did not know it, but Dulles was bringing them to the United States less for intelligence purposes than for political advantage. The Nazis' job quickly became to get out the vote for the Republicans. One Israeli intelligence officer joked that when Dulles used the phrase "Never Again," he was not talking about the Holocaust but about Dewey's narrow loss to Truman. In the eyes of the Israelis, Allen Dulles was the demon who infected Western intelligence with Nazi recruits.

"In preparation for the 1952 Eisenhower-Nixon campaign, the Republicans formed an Ethnic Division, which, to put it bluntly, recruited the "displaced Fascists" who arrived in the United States after World War II. Like similar migrant organizations in several Western countries, the Ethnic Division attracted a significant number of Central and Eastern European Nazis, who had been recruited by the SS as political and police leaders during the Holocaust. These Fascist emigres supported the Eisenhower-Nixon "liberation" policy as the quickest means of getting back into power in their former homelands and made a significant contribution "in its first operation (1951/1952).""

The authors point out that "over the years the Democrats had acquired one or two Nazis of their own, such as Tscherim Soobzokov, a former member of the Caucasian SS who worked as a party boss in New Jersey. But in 90 percent of the cases, the members of Hitler's political organization went to the Republicans. In fact, from the very beginning, the word had been put around among Eastern European Nazis that Dulles and Nixon were the men to see, especially if you were a rich Fascist . . ." (3)

This relationship between Richard Nixon and the Nazis developed because both he and Allen Dulles "blamed Governor Dewey's razor-thin loss to Truman in the 1948 presidential election on the Jewish vote. When [Nixon] became Eisenhower's vice president in 1952, Nixon was determined to build his own ethnic base.

"Vice President Nixon's secret political war of Nazis against Jews in American politics was never investigated at the time. The foreign language-speaking Croatian and other Fascist emigre groups had a ready-made network for contacting and mobilizing the Eastern European ethnic bloc. There is a very high correlation between CIA domestic subsidies to Fascist "freedom fighters" during the 1950s and the leadership of the Republican party's ethnic campaign groups. The motive for under-the-table financing was clear: Nixon used Nazis to offset the Jewish vote for the Democrats.

"In 1952 Nixon had formed an Ethnic Division within the Republican National Committee. "Displaced Fascists, hoping to be returned to power by an Eisenhower-Nixon "liberation" policy signed on" with the committee. In 1953, when Republicans were in office, the immigration laws were changed to admit Nazis, even members of the SS. They flooded into the country. Nixon himself oversaw the new immigration program. As vice president, he even received Eastern European Fascists in the White House. After a long, long journey, the Croatian Nazis had found a new home in the United States, where they reestablished their networks.

"In 1968 Nixon promised that if he won the presidential election, he would create a permanent ethnic council within the Republican party. Previously the Ethnic Division was allowed to surface only during presidential campaigns. Nixon's promise was carried out after the 1972 election, during [George] Bush's tenure as chairman of the Republican National Committee. The Croatian Ustashis became an integral part of the campaign structure of Republican politics, along with several other Fascist organizations." (4)

The authors describe Nixon's pro-Nazi activities in no uncertain terms: "Nixon himself personally recruited ex-Nazis for his 1968 presidential campaign. Moreover, Vice President Nixon became the point man for the Eisenhower administration on covert operations and personally supervised Allen Dulles's projects while Ike was ill in 1956 and 1957." (5)

One of the Nazis recruited by candidate Nixon was Laszlo Pasztor, described by Aarons and Loftus as "the founding chair of Nixon's Republican Heritage Groups council" who, "during World War II . . . was a diplomat in Berlin representing the Arrow Cross government of Nazi Hungary, which supervised the extermination of the Jewish population.

"[A]fter Nixon won [the 1968 Presidential Election], he approved Pasztor's appointment as chief organizer of the ethnic council. Not surprisingly, Pasztor's "choices for filling emigre slots as the council was being formed included various Nazi collaborationist organizations." The former Fascists were coming out of the closet in droves.

"The policy of the Nixon White House was an "open door" for emigre Fascists, and through the door came such guests as Ivan Docheff, head of the Bulgarian National Front and chairman of the American Friends of the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations (ABN). . . . an organization dominated by war criminals and fugitive Fascists. Yet Nixon welcomed them with open arms and even had Docheff to breakfast for a prayer meeting to celebrate Captive Nations Week." (6)

"During Nixon's "Four More Years" campaign in 1971-1972, Laszlo Pasztor again played a key role in marshaling the ethnic vote. No longer a marginal player on the fringes, now he held a key position as the Republican National Committee's nationalities director. . . .

"The Republican leadership cannot claim ignorance as a defense. [Syndicated Columnist Jack] Anderson's famous expose of Nixon's Nazis appeared in "The Washington Post" at the same time as the November 1971 convention. Among those mentioned was Laszlo Pasztor, "the industrious head of the GOP ethnic groups, [who] was never asked about his wartime activities in Hungary by the four GOP officials who interviewed him for his job." It was too embarrassing for Nixon to admit that Pasztor had been a ranking member of a Fascist government at war with the United States.

". . . . It is one thing to promote obscure Eastern European Fascist movements in the Republican party. It is quite another to let the German Nazis have a major influence. After 1953, the Republican administration changed the rules, and even members of the Waffen SS could immigrate to the United States as long as they claimed only to have fought the Communists on the Eastern Front." (7)

The Republican/Nixon attraction to Nazism was also observed by Robert J. Groden and Harrison Edward Livingstone, authors of the book, "High Treason," dealing with the Kennedy Assassination. Groden and Livingstone write: "Nixon surrounded himself with what was known as the Berlin Wall, a long succession of advisors with Germanic names: We recall at the top of his "German General Staff" as it was also known, Haldeman, Erlichman, Krogh, Kliendienst, Kissinger (the Rockefellers' emissary) and many others.

"The selection of German names was no accident. Many of the brighter staff people close to Nixon came to him from the University of Southern California, and the University of California at Los Angeles, where there were fraternities that kept alive the vision of a new Reich. America has for a long time harbored this dark side of its character, one of violence and the Valhalla of Wagner and Hitler.

"But Gordon Liddy was the one in whose mind "Triumph of the Will" was the most alive. Some of these men would watch the great Nazi propaganda films in the basement of the White House until all hours of the night, and drink, in fact, get drunk with their power, with blind ambition, as one of them wrote." (8)

"According to several of our sources in the intelligence community who were in a position to know," continue Loftus and Aarons, "the secret rosters of the Republican party's Nationalities Council read like a Who's Who of Fascist fugitives. The Republican's Nazi connection is the darkest secret of the Republican leadership. The rosters will never be disclosed to the public. As will be seen in Chapter 16 dealing with George Bush, the Fascist connection is too widespread for damage control.

"According to a 1988 study by Russ Bellant of Political Research Associates, virtually all of the Fascist organizations of World War II opened up a Republican party front group during the Nixon administration. The caliber of the Republican ethnic leaders can be gauged by one New Jersey man, Emanuel Jasiuk, a notorious mass murderer from what is today called the independent nation of Belarus, formerly part of the Soviet Union. But not all American ethnic communities are represented in the GOP's ethnic section; there are no black or Jewish heritage groups. . . .

"The truth is that the Nazi immigrants were "tar babies" that no one knew how to get rid of. Dulles had brought in a handful of the top emigre politicians in the late 1940s. They in turn sponsored their friends in the 1950s. By the 1960s ex-Nazis who had originally fled to Argentina were moving to the United States. . . ." (9)

It is clear that, even before the break-in at the Democratic Party Headquarters on June 17, 1972, the Republicans were on the brink of having their pro-Nazi activities over the past four decades become a matter of mass-media attention. After the Watergate Break-in, as the Congressional Hearings began to reveal the slush-funds, money-laundering, illegal corporate campaign contributions, the political sabotage of the 1972 Presidential election process, the involvement of ITT and the Nixon Administration into the assassination of Salvador Allende, the democratically elected president of Chile, and many other aspects of Nixonism, the floodgates of truth were about to open. Only one thing averted this wholesale learning of the truth by the American people: Nixon's resignation and subsequent pardoning by his hand-picked successor, Gerald Ford.

Link (http://www.wealth4freedom.com/Elkhorn5.html)

jcook11
06-07-2006, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by binnie
Gonna have to plead ignorance here, what is the BCE?

You obviously haven't been here that long FRAU....FORD is this sites resident mental patient,paint huffer and meth addict and LOUNGE MACHINE is his latest protege. FORD hides in his mothers basement with a tin foil hat and dreams up wacky conspiracy theories and posts them on this site. :rolleyes:

matt19
06-07-2006, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by jcook11
You obviously haven't been here that long FRAU....FORD is this sites resident mental patient,paint huffer and meth addict and LOUNGE MACHINE is his latest protege. FORD hides in his mothers basement with a tin foil hat and dreams up wacky conspiracy theories and posts them on this site. :rolleyes:

LMMFAO!

Hardrock69
06-08-2006, 09:30 AM
You obviously haven't been here that long FRAU....jcook11 is this sites resident mental patient,paint huffer and meth addict who hides his head in his Retardlican Master's ass and dreams up ways to accuse everyone of posting wacky conspiracy theories on this site. :rolleyes:


Here is a perfect example of jcook11's ignorance.

All of the above is true history, yet he (in all his foam-at-the-mouth Retardlican zealotry) tries to pass it off as a "conspiracy theory".

Just another typical Retardlican, rowing their boats with no paddles up the river Denial....

binnie
06-08-2006, 09:39 AM
Thanks for posting that Ford, it was food for thought!

I am currently a grad student in history and I have to say (even though this 500 years after my period) that I am ashamed that I have never come across any of this stuff before.

not saying I am 100% convinced, but I will certainly follow it up!

Thanks again.

Hardrock69
06-08-2006, 02:28 PM
There is much behind the scenes stuff about the U.S. Government available on the internet.

Most sheeple still believe that Presidents are actually elected, and that every thing a President says or does is right, always.

Try to suggest that things are not as they seem, and the sheeple throw their hands up in terror, or else they cram their head back in the sand (or up their favorite Retardlican candidate's ass).

Kinda like walking up to an average Christian and telling them Jesus was a Jew.

They live in denial.


Binnie, check this website out. It has much fact, as the stuff that was written was written by a man who was in the upper levels of the CIA and Pentagon, as well as other top intelligence agencies for decades:

www.prouty.org

diamondD
06-08-2006, 02:33 PM
Who in here says that the President is always right? You're painting a pretty big brush there and I can't think of one person who agrees blindly with Bush on everything.


Denial is blaming everything wrong with anything on Bush. And that I do see in here.


And that, by definition, is a sheep. ;)

binnie
06-08-2006, 02:34 PM
Cheers my friend,

My perception of americans in improving vastly as a result of this forum, didn't even realise there was a "left" or non-conservative wing in the States. (You get a really bad deal in European media portrayals)


Good to know that there is.

I will check that site out...

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Who in here says that the President is always right? You're painting a pretty big brush there and I can't think of one person who agrees blindly with Bush on everything.


Denial is blaming everything wrong with anything on Bush. And that I do see in here.


And that, by definition, is a sheep. ;)

Exactly...well said.

:)

binnie
06-08-2006, 02:41 PM
Spanking!

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by binnie
Gonna have to plead ignorance here, what is the BCE?


There is NO SUCH THING as the BCE!!! (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=20422)

binnie
06-08-2006, 02:42 PM
I will make my own mind up, thought provoking stuff tho'

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
WASHINGTON (AP) — Determined to win the Cold War, the CIA kept quiet about the whereabouts of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in the 1950s for fear he might expose undercover anti-communist efforts in West Germany, according to documents released Tuesday.



Is this disturbing to you?

How about the fact that we had a Nazi scientist (Werner von Braun) developing our rocket program from the '40's to the '70's?

Or the fact that a Nazi General (Hans Speidel, chief of staff to both Field Marshal Erwin Rommel and Walther Model) was commander of all NATO ground forces..... in 1952?

There is many other instances as well.

Points to ponder for the masses.

:gulp:

jcook11
06-08-2006, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
There is much behind the scenes stuff about the U.S. Government available on the internet.

Most sheeple still believe that Presidents are actually elected, and that every thing a President says or does is right, always.

Try to suggest that things are not as they seem, and the sheeple throw their hands up in terror, or else they cram their head back in the sand (or up their favorite Retardlican candidate's ass).

Kinda like walking up to an average Christian and telling them Jesus was a Jew.

They live in denial.


Binnie, check this website out. It has much fact, as the stuff that was written was written by a man who was in the upper levels of the CIA and Pentagon, as well as other top intelligence agencies for decades:

www.prouty.org

Jesus a Jew, that's just some bullshit made up by the BCE :sleepy: