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jcook11
06-08-2006, 03:34 AM
PENDING.....: :gun:

matt19
06-08-2006, 03:38 AM
jcook dont say such foul things in here we all know its just another BCE spin job!

jcook11
06-08-2006, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by matt19
jcook dont say such foul things in here we all know its just another BCE spin job!

HA! HA! Lets'see FORD LOUNGE SESH and HR69 spin this :rolleyes:

matt19
06-08-2006, 03:51 AM
What do i know im only 19?

I know that this is a lie, started by President Bush himself. In order to get his poll numbers up. Just like the BCE!

jcook11
06-08-2006, 04:11 AM
Usama,,Usama come on out little fellow won't hurt you.

bueno bob
06-08-2006, 06:06 AM
It's front page on both MSN and Yahoo...

bueno bob
06-08-2006, 06:07 AM
From Yahoo:

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed in air raid By PATRICK QUINN, Associated Press Writer
36 minutes ago



BAGHDAD, Iraq - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida's leader in Iraq who led a bloody campaign of suicide bombings and kidnappings, has been killed in an air strike, U.S. and Iraqi officials said Thursday, adding that his identity was confirmed by fingerprints and a look at his face. It was a major victory in the U.S.-led war in Iraq and the broader war on terror.

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Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said al-Zarqawi was killed along with seven aides Wednesday evening in a remote area 30 miles northeast of Baghdad in the volatile province of Diyala, just east of the provincial capital of Baqouba, al-Maliki said.

Loud applause broke out as al-Maliki, flanked by U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and U.S. Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told reporters at a news conference that "al-Zarqawi was eliminated."

In London, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said al-Zarqawi's death "was very good news because a blow against al-Qaida in Iraq was a blow against al-Qaida everywhere."

The announcement came six days after the Jordanian-born terror leader issued an audiotape on the Internet, railing against Shiites in Iraq and saying militias were raping women and killing Sunnis and the community must fight back.

Al-Maliki said the air strike was the result of intelligence reports provided to Iraqi security forces by residents in the area, and U.S. forces acted on the information.

A Jordanian official said that Jordan also provided the U.S. military with information that helped in tracking al-Zarqawi down. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was addressing intelligence issues, would not elaborate, but Jordan is known to have intelligence agents operating in Iraq to hunt down Islamic militants.

Some of the information came from Jordan's sources inside Iraq and led the U.S. military to the area of Baqouba, the official said.

Baqouba has in recent weeks seen a spike in sectarian violence, including the discovery of 17 severed heads in fruit boxes. It was also near the site of a sectarian atrocity last week in which masked gunmen killed 21 Shiites, including a dozen students, after separating out four Sunni Arabs.

"Those who disrupt the course of life, like al-Zarqawi, will have a tragic end," al-Maliki said. He also warned those who would follow the militant's lead that "whenever there is a new al-Zarqawi, we will kill him."

"This is a message for all those who embrace violence, killing and destruction to stop and to (retreat) before it's too late," he said. "It is an open battle with all those who incite sectarianism."

Khalilzad added that "the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is a huge success for Iraq and the international war on terror." He also gave a thumbs up and said it was a good day for America.

Casey said the hunt for al-Zarqawi began in the area two weeks ago, and al-Zarqawi's body was identified by fingerprints and facial recognition.

Al-Zarqawi, who is believed to have personally beheaded at least two American hostages, became Iraq's most wanted militant — as notorious as Osama bin Laden, to whom he swore allegiance in 2004. The United States put a $25 million bounty on al-Zarqawi, the same as bin Laden.

U.S. forces in Iraq said the killing was a major victory.

"We killed him, and it's always great when you can remove someone that has caused this much harm," said Maj. Frank Garcia, public affairs officer for the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division. "We're one step closer to providing stability to the region."

Iraqis had mixed reactions.

Thamir Abdulhussein, a college student in Baghdad, said he hopes the killing of al-Zarqawi will promote reconciliation between Iraq's fractured ethnic and sectarian groups.

"If it's true al-Zarqawi was killed, that will be a big happiness for all the Iraqis," he said. "He was behind all the killings of Sunni and Shiites. Iraqis should now move toward reconciliation. They should stop the violence."

Amir Muhammed Ali, a 45-year-old stock broker in Baghdad, was skeptical that al-Zarqawi's death would end the unrelenting violence in the country, saying he was a foreigner but the Iraqi resistance to U.S.-led forces would likely continue.

"He didn't represent the resistance, someone will replace him and the operations will go on," he said.

In the past year, he moved his campaign beyond Iraq's borders, claiming to have carried out a Nov. 9, 2005, triple suicide bombing against hotels in Amman, Jordan, that killed 60 people, as well as other attacks in Jordan and even a rocket attack from Lebanon into northern Israel.

U.S. forces and their allies came close to capturing al-Zarqawi several times since his campaign began in mid-2003.

His closest brush may have come in late 2004. Deputy Interior Ministry Maj. Gen. Hussein Kamal said Iraqi security forces caught al-Zarqawi near the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah but then released him because they didn't realize who he was.

In May 2005, Web statements by his group said al-Zarqawi had been wounded in fighting with Americans and was being treated in a hospital abroad — raising speculation over a successor among his lieutenants. But days later, a statement said al-Zarqawi was fine and had returned to Iraq. There was never any independent confirmation of the reports of his wounding.

U.S. forces believe they just missed capturing al-Zarqawi in a Feb. 20, 2005 raid in which troops closed in on his vehicle west of Baghdad near the Euphrates River. His driver and another associate were captured and al-Zarqawi's computer was seized along with pistols and ammunition.

U.S. troops twice launched massive invasions of Fallujah, the stronghold used by al-Qaida in Iraq fighters and other insurgents west of Baghdad. An April 2004 offensive left the city still in insurgent hands, but the October 2004 assault wrested it from them. However, al-Zarqawi — if he was in the city — escaped.

FORD
06-08-2006, 06:21 AM
Did his hard drive finally crash?

Geezus, is Chimpy so desperate to get back above 30% that he has to "kill" the "Tooth Fairy of Terraism" :rolleyes:

FORD
06-08-2006, 06:37 AM
This is such FUCKING HORSESHIT!!!!

They're reporting on ABC News, that the US troops supposedly injured Hopalong Headroom and then "turned him over to Iraqis" where he later "died from his injuries"

BULLSHIT.

If they actually captured someone the likes of who this FICTIONAL CHARACTER was supposed to be, they damn sure wouldn't turn him over to anyone, or they are FUCKING MORONS. And as a matter of fact - well not fact, but BCE story - they already did that once, and the guy supposedly hopped away on his one leg.

Fucking liars........

ELVIS
06-08-2006, 06:39 AM
C'mon now FORD...:rolleyes:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/images/zarqawi-leg.gif

Loud applause broke out as al-Maliki, flanked by U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad and U.S. Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told reporters at a news conference that ``al-Zarqawi was eliminated.'' (http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-5872453,00.html)



:elvis:

DrMaddVibe
06-08-2006, 06:45 AM
Good riddence!

Have fun in hell!

FORD
06-08-2006, 06:47 AM
Do deleted computer programs go to Hell? :confused:

bueno bob
06-08-2006, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Do deleted computer programs go to Hell? :confused:

Somebody ask Satan...

FORD
06-08-2006, 06:59 AM
I think Satan's still sleeping off his hangover from the numerous 6/6/06 parties he attended everywhere from here to Hell and back.

At least he's sleeping :(

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by FORD
This is such FUCKING HORSESHIT!!!!

They're reporting on ABC News, that the US troops supposedly injured Hopalong Headroom and then "turned him over to Iraqis" where he later "died from his injuries"

BULLSHIT.

If they actually captured someone the likes of who this FICTIONAL CHARACTER was supposed to be, they damn sure wouldn't turn him over to anyone, or they are FUCKING MORONS. And as a matter of fact - well not fact, but BCE story - they already did that once, and the guy supposedly hopped away on his one leg.

Fucking liars........

You're pathetic.

This guy is finally taken out and all you can do is put your little political spin on this?

I'll say it again...you're pathetic.

:) :mad: :cool:

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:04 AM
Brian, the fucking cartoon character DOES NOT EXIST.

He didn't exist before, he doesn't exist now. If the BCE wants to quit using this illusion, good. It's not like it's going to change shit anyway.

sadaist
06-08-2006, 07:04 AM
This is great news for libs. Another conspiracy theory to build.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 07:06 AM
It's a sad days for liberal nut jobs everywhere, but the reaction is exactly what I expected.

But let one dominatrix start a rumor...

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by diamondD
It's a sad days for liberal nut jobs everywhere, but the reaction is exactly what I expected.

But let one dominatrix start a rumor...

At least the dominatrix (and Chimp's boyfriend Victor Ashe) are verified exisiting human beings.

And it's no sad day for me. I never believed in this terra Tooth Fairy anyway.

Switch84
06-08-2006, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
You're pathetic.

This guy is finally taken out and all you can do is put your little political spin on this?

I'll say it again...you're pathetic.

:) :mad: :cool:



:lol: :argh: Oh, the tangled web Ford/Jesus Christ/Satan weaves! He can't think straight with all of those voices in his head.

That beeyotch is DEAD!!! Good riddance to bad rubbish!


al-Zarqawi is DEAD, BITCH

diamondD
06-08-2006, 07:13 AM
No, but you bitch and moan all day like a menstrual woman that they can't do anything right, and when they do, you claim it was all made up.


It's gotten beyond stupid, Dave.

DrMaddVibe
06-08-2006, 07:14 AM
Al-Qaeda's Zarqawi killed by US aircraft By Mariam Karouny
6 minutes ago



U.S. aircraft killed al Qaeda leader in Iraq Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the insurgent leader who masterminded the death of hundreds in suicide bombings and was blamed for the videotaped beheading of foreign captives.

In one of the most significant developments in Iraq since the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, Jordanian-born Zarqawi was killed in a U-S.-Iraqi operation which was assisted by intelligence information from Amman, officials said on Thursday.

Zarqawi, whom Osama bin Laden called the prince of al Qaeda in Iraq, had come to symbolize the radical Islamic insurgency against U.S. occupation, but it was too early to say what effect his death would have on Sunni-Shi'ite tensions racking Iraq.

"Today Zarqawi has been terminated," Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki announced at a televised news conference with the top U.S. commander in Iraq, General George Casey, prompting applause and cheering from Iraqi journalists.

"Every time a Zarqawi appears we will kill him," Maliki said. "We will continue confronting whoever follows his path. It is an open war between us."

Jordanian government spokesman Nasser Joudeh said: "There has been early exchange of intelligence information with the United States that helped in the operation that killed Zarqawi."

The followers of Zarqawi, who had declared war on Iraq's majority Shi'ite Muslims reinforcing fears that he was out to ignite civil war, still posed a security threat to the Iraqi government, U.S. officials said.

Casey said the body of Zarqawi, thought to be in his late 30s and who had a $25 million U.S. bounty on his head, had been identified and that details of the circumstances of his death would be revealed later on Thursday.

Maliki, who had been desperately in need of a success to bolster his authority as prime minister, said seven Zarqawi aides were also killed in the raid in the city of Baquba 65 km (40 miles) north of the capital.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair said Zarqawi's death was a blow against al Qaeda everywhere. President Bush was expected to make a statement at 1200 GMT.

ZARQAWI INSPIRED BOMBERS

U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said the death of Zarqawi, whom he called the "godfather of sectarian killing in Iraq," marked a great success. But the ambassador and Casey cautioned that it will not end violence in the country.

Two bombs in Baghdad, which killed a total of 15 people and injured 36 others on Thursday, gave a grim reminder of the violence besetting the country.

The announcement of Zarqawi's death had an impact on oil prices. Crude futures were down more than one dollar to $69.82.

Zarqawi, had inspired an apparently endless supply of militants from across the Arab world to blow themselves up in suicide missions in Iraq.

Some posters of the most wanted man in Iraq show him in glasses, looking like an accountant, others as a tough-looking man in a black skullcap.

Zarqawi appeared on a video in April unmasked for the first time, meeting his followers, firing a machinegun in the desert and condemning the entire Iraqi political process.

Iraqi and U.S. officials said he had formed a loose alliance with Saddam's former agents, benefiting from their money, weapons and intelligence assets to press his campaign.

"Zarqawi didn't have a number two. I can't think of any single person who would succeed Zarqawi," Rohan Gunaratna from the Institute of Defense and Strategic Studies in Singapore said. "In terms of effectiveness, there was no single leader in Iraq who could match his ruthlessness and his determination."

The brother of Ken Bigley, a British engineer beheaded by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's group, said the militant leader should rot in hell. "The man was an animal and he deserved what he got. And may he rot in hell," Paul Bigley told Channel Four news.

Arab web sites reflected reverence and revulsion.

"Thank God this wayward infidel is dead," wrote Azizi on al Saha Web site (www.alsaha.com). "It's enough that he's an ally of Osama bin Laden, the sheikh of terror and terrorists. All true believers have been relieved of his evil."

Others hailed Zarqawi as a martyr and a hero.

"The sky does not suffer from the death of a star ... and there will be no sadness for you, Abu Musab, as your death is actually the wedding of a martyr. You will reside in paradise."

The killing of Zarqawi could give a political boost to Maliki, who has made it his mission to crush the Sunni Arab insurgency against the U.S.-backed government.

Iraq's parliament approved on Thursday Maliki's candidates for new defense and interior ministers.

The two key security jobs were left temporarily vacant when Maliki's government of national unity took office on May 20 because of intense wrangling among his coalition partners.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 07:17 AM
Damn all those Iraqis for pretending to get killled by this guy and going along with this charade...:rolleyes:

sadaist
06-08-2006, 07:17 AM
Yesterday Libs says "Stupid cons can't even catch or kill Al-Zarqawi"

Today Libs say "Stupid guy was made up. This is just to boost poll numbers"

Can't please 'em no matter what you do. It's very tough to debate intelligently when all they spew is nonsense.

ashstralia
06-08-2006, 07:19 AM
haha!!!

when i clickied tis,

i's expecting to read how zarqawi, well known bce operative,

was now living in bumfuck indiana, under the name 'dr. zoidberg'












but it's better than that!!!!!!!



hehehehehhhh

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:21 AM
Great.... now the media whores are dragging out the old videos of the 6-ft tall WHITE guys in ski masks who could barely read Arabic from a script. The Blackwater contractors or Mossad agents or whomever that cut off Nick Berg's head..... and now they're trying to blame that on this fictional character Hopalong Towelheadroom.

Jesus Christ, do these TREASONOUS LIARS ever stop??

diamondD
06-08-2006, 07:22 AM
There is no intelligent debate, it's beat you into submission with stupidity.

Switch84
06-08-2006, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by diamondD
you bitch and moan all day like a menstrual woman


:D :D ;) We won't bitch so much if you just let us watch "Oprah" and eat chocolate all day....

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Great.... now the media whores are dragging out the old videos of the 6-ft tall WHITE guys in ski masks who could barely read Arabic from a script. The Blackwater contractors.......

I know some Blackwater contractors.

Expect the black helicopters anytime now.

:gun:

diamondD
06-08-2006, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Switch84
:D :D ;) We won't bitch so much if you just let us watch "Oprah" and eat chocolate all day....


Knock yourself out! :D

No offense, just trying to paint an accurate picture of his attitude! ;)

sadaist
06-08-2006, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Great.... now the media whores are dragging out the old videos of the 6-ft tall WHITE guys in ski masks who could barely read Arabic from a script. The Blackwater contractors or Mossad agents or whomever that cut off Nick Berg's head..... and now they're trying to blame that on this fictional character Hopalong Towelheadroom.

Jesus Christ, do these TREASONOUS LIARS ever stop??


Dude, you really need some help. I know the saying that just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not after me. But you have fallen too deep into the abyss of hate to be saved. Hating anyone and everyone who doesn't follow your ideals and party lines is crazy?

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe


Maliki, who had been desperately in need of a success to bolster his authority as prime minister,

...kinda like Chimpy needed a "success" after stealing an election and a major embarrassment in China in 2001? ;)

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I know some Blackwater contractors.

Expect the black helicopters anytime now.

:gun:

If those treasonous pussies show up at my home, they'll be reassigned to Hell about 5 seconds later.

Seshmeister
06-08-2006, 07:29 AM
They'll need to come up with another bogeyman asap.

After years of watching movies the public seems to need these supervillans to focus on.

This twat being killed makes fuck all difference to the situation.

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:31 AM
Oh fucking joy..... they're dragging the monkey out of bed and putting him in front of a camera in a few minutes, so he can mumble a bunch of bullshit about "terra" and "freedumb" :rolleyes:

sadaist
06-08-2006, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Oh fucking joy..... they're dragging the monkey out of bed and putting him in front of a camera in a few minutes, so he can mumble a bunch of bullshit about "terra" and "freedumb" :rolleyes:

So, if you are so unhappy with this administration, what are you doing to change it? Talking nonsense on a David Lee Roth fan site? Yeah, that's where I would start.

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by sadaist
So, if you are so unhappy with this administration, what are you doing to change it? Talking nonsense on a David Lee Roth fan site? Yeah, that's where I would start.

You're the one who's here to talk about Sammy Hagar, and comparing the lack of OU812 support to the attempt to alter the constitution to discriminate against American citizens.

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by FORD
If those treasonous pussies show up at my home, they'll be reassigned to Hell about 5 seconds later.

:rolleyes:

What are you going to do, hit them over the head with your boyfriend's vibrator?

:D

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:41 AM
Never underestimate what I'm capable of when I haven't had any fucking sleep :mad:

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Never underestimate what I'm capable of when I haven't had any fucking sleep :mad:

I'm sorry to hear that. I really am. I believe you talked of this before and even talked of sleep apnea at VHLinks.

You need to go to a sleep lab and have tests. They can hook you up with a solution WITHOUT drugs.

:)

4moreyears
06-08-2006, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Never underestimate what I'm capable of when I haven't had any fucking sleep :mad:

You are a pussy. You are only capable of blowing a blind dog you faggot.

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:49 AM
Alright, who woke up the chain letter moron? :rolleyes:

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I'm sorry to hear that. I really am. I believe you talked of this before and even talked of sleep apnea at VHLinks.

You need to go to a sleep lab and have tests. They can hook you up with a solution WITHOUT drugs.

:)

That's not the case this time. I just went overboard posting 80's videos in House of Music, and by the time I realized how late it was, this Zarqawi bullshit was going. Now it's too late (or early?) to consider sleeping.

Not to take this thread in a medical direction...... but my reasons for not taking the medical tests are simple. I can't sleep with anything attached to me. Tubes, wires, or whatever. And not to get personal, but frankly, I've slept in the nude since I was 12 years old, and as such, find it extremely hard to fall asleep wearing anything.

Between those two factors, there's no way I could fall asleep in a laboratory environment, without being seriously drugged. And if I were on drugs, their tests would be useless.

Anyway, I don't think sleep apnea is my problem. Just the difficulty of falling asleep in the first place :(

sadaist
06-08-2006, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by FORD
You're the one who's here to talk about Sammy Hagar, and comparing the lack of OU812 support to the attempt to alter the constitution to discriminate against American citizens.


Once again, not understanding a written post. I'm calling out libs who preach tolerance for gays, but then immediately in another thread will take someone down for listening to a particular album that they don't agree with. Sammy was just the most obvious choice for this site as an example. I could have said Milli Vanilli, Culture Club, newer Metallica, etc...

Be tolerant, unless it's something I can't tolerate? Do you always contradict yourself. I guess whatever sounds good at the time, right?

sadaist
06-08-2006, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by FORD


Anyway, I don't think sleep apnea is my problem. Just the difficulty of falling asleep in the first place :(

It's hard to sleep when you know THEY are after you.

BigBadBrian
06-08-2006, 08:04 AM
http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060608/capt.8ae93c3aec0a4d9b8e125fe4c5cd84e1.iraq_al_zarq awi_ny115.jpg?x=280&y=345&sig=s15s3u.2NGAfY9dblL6_9w--
TERMINATED!!!

FORD
06-08-2006, 08:14 AM
Ah, the old computer generated composite sketch again..... doesn't look a thing like the actor who couldn't fire his machine gun in the video last month....

diamondD
06-08-2006, 08:18 AM
Your lack of sleep is obvious.

thome
06-08-2006, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by FORD


Anyway, I don't think sleep apnea is my problem. Just the difficulty of falling asleep in the first place :( [/B]

You think to much. Complete drunkinness is the only way i sleep for
more than 4 hrs a night if i nap on saturday for an hr i only sleep
two hrs that night It suks.the drunkenness leaves me strung out
but i get sleep. Oh well, and so it goes.good luck.

and Fuk Zawannagoebles and his henchmen even if it's all a conspiracy
were one step closer to the end of it. Think that way and then you can relax:)

I am somewhat concerned that he was only 30 miles from Bagdad...
(that it took three years to kill the fuk)

It just prooves my point the Isolationist attitude and closed structure
of these mideastern societies has led to massive inbreeding the
everyman must wear the same style beard is all designed to
have everyone look like everyone else hard to tell the priest from
the terrorist.

The_KiD
06-08-2006, 08:24 AM
One less peice of terrorist filth to deal with... Excellent.. I hope Alah rewards him in he after world... NOT...

KiD

distortion9
06-08-2006, 08:32 AM
Tin foil hats are too noisy to sleep with.

FORD
06-08-2006, 08:47 AM
Ah, go listen to Herpes and Assrimming......

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 09:20 AM
If it's true [this time], then great.....

But does anyone here think it will make ONE IOTA of differnence in the amount of violence and/or hatred in the region?

Of course not.

It's like the cops nailing the drug dealer on the corner by the 7-11.

Before he gets his picture taken and his fingertips inked there's 6 guys already on the corner to replace him.


If anything, we will now see a spike in violence as this piece of shit becomes a martyr.

MEET THE NEW BOSS, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS.

I'm not complaining we killed him, and if it's true [ this time] then this would qualify as GOOD NEWS FROM IRAQ.

But Jesus people, nothing is going to change because we did.

frets5150
06-08-2006, 09:51 AM
Are they sure Remember this ?

Pentagon: 'Chemical Ali' Killed in Attack

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/7/204930.shtml


:rolleyes:

FORD
06-08-2006, 10:02 AM
Disbelief in Iraqi hamlet where Zarqawi was killed

By Hilmy Kamal
Reuters
Thursday, June 8, 2006; 9:36 AM

HIBHIB, Iraq (Reuters) - Standing on rubble left by the U.S. air raid that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraqis in the village of Hibhib expressed disbelief on Thursday that the al Qaeda leader had been living among them.

"I don't know anything about Abu Musab or anyone else being here," said a teenager who declined to give his name, inspecting blankets amid crushed concrete.

"The Americans have a habit of bombing places and then claiming Zarqawi or others were there."

The Jordanian-born militant blamed for some of the most spectacular bombings in Iraq was killed in an American air raid that was announced on Thursday.

Police escorted reporters to the house they said was destroyed in the U.S. air raid. But residents were skeptical.

"Zarqawi. Zarqawi. Zarqawi. That's all we hear about. Zarqawi was not here. This home belonged to displaced people," said a village resident, holding up a teddy bear and a child's knapsack buried in the destruction.

He recalled hearing the sound of aircraft on Wednesday night, when the raid killed the most wanted man in Iraq.

Hibhib, about 70 km (45 miles) north of Baghdad, is typical of the rural Iraqi villages where U.S. troops hunt Sunni Arab insurgents and al Qaeda militants.

Located in Diyala, one of the country's most dangerous provinces, it is a tiny place with one road surrounded by date palm orchards and streams.

Zarqawi is said to have moved to Diyala as part of a strategy of constantly moving around to evade U.S. and Iraqi forces. The province is a volatile mix of majority Shi'ites and Arab Sunnis and Kurds that has suffered some of the grisliest violence.

But Hibhib seems worlds away from the insurgent and sectarian bloodshed pushing Iraq toward civil war.

That may be why residents seemed so surprised by news that an al Qaeda leader who had a $25 million U.S. bounty on his head was in their midst.

People in a nearby cluster of houses said they had no idea who was living in the pulverized home.

"All we know is there was someone named Sayed Yassin there. How can it be possible that Zarqawi was there?" asked one.

(Writing by Michael Georgy, editing by Elizabeth Piper)
© 2006 Reuters

diamondD
06-08-2006, 10:08 AM
He was in hiding. He wasn't riding down the street in the back of a convertible waving to the people.


How many weeks exactly have you gone without sleep?

And, didn't want to provide a link to your story?

FORD
06-08-2006, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by diamondD
He was in hiding. He wasn't riding down the street in the back of a convertible waving to the people.

Maybe he should have been? We know the BCE has killed under those circumstances before.


How many weeks exactly have you gone without sleep?

Just last night. I usually get 3 or 4 hours.

And, didn't want to provide a link to your story?

The "©2006 Reuters" wasn't enough for you?

In other words, it's from a mainstream news wire.

4moreyears
06-08-2006, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
If it's true [this time], then great.....

But does anyone here think it will make ONE IOTA of differnence in the amount of violence and/or hatred in the region?

Of course not.

It's like the cops nailing the drug dealer on the corner by the 7-11.

Before he gets his picture taken and his fingertips inked there's 6 guys already on the corner to replace him.


If anything, we will now see a spike in violence as this piece of shit becomes a martyr.

MEET THE NEW BOSS, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS.

I'm not complaining we killed him, and if it's true [ this time] then this would qualify as GOOD NEWS FROM IRAQ.

But Jesus people, nothing is going to change because we did.

It is good this asshole is gone but Lounge makes a good point. Some other Allah loving pshyco will take over.

FORD
06-08-2006, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
It is good this asshole is gone but Lounge makes a good point. Some other Allah loving pshyco will take over.

Sure...... maybe the new software will generate a more credible fake terraist.

4moreyears
06-08-2006, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Sure...... maybe the new software will generate a more credible fake terraist.

What is a terraist?

BITEYOASS
06-08-2006, 11:11 AM
Well being an expert on air strikes I can tell you several things. If the place where he was hiding was attacked by door gunner from a UH-1, CH-46 or CH53; then there will likely be a body intact. If it was done with rockets, Hellfire, cluster bombs or TOWs, it might be a bit mangled up and you'll have to identify it. If it was done with a bomb weighing 500 lbs. or more, don't even bother finding a body, because it's vaporized.

scamper
06-08-2006, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by FORD
I've slept in the nude since I was 12 years old


Way too much info...

FORD
06-08-2006, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
What is a terraist?

That's Chimpese for "terrorist"

scamper
06-08-2006, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
If it's true [this time], then great.....

But does anyone here think it will make ONE IOTA of differnence in the amount of violence and/or hatred in the region?

Of course not.

It's like the cops nailing the drug dealer on the corner by the 7-11.

Before he gets his picture taken and his fingertips inked there's 6 guys already on the corner to replace him.


If anything, we will now see a spike in violence as this piece of shit becomes a martyr.

MEET THE NEW BOSS, SAME AS THE OLD BOSS.

I'm not complaining we killed him, and if it's true [ this time] then this would qualify as GOOD NEWS FROM IRAQ.

But Jesus people, nothing is going to change because we did.

I find it hard to agree with LM on anything but I have to on this.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 11:25 AM
They are saying they are on the alert for retaliation. That's what always seems to happen in the Israeli conflict.

The good thing that it does send is yes, you can step up and claim leadership. Just expect your life expectancy to take a dramatic twist.

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 11:28 AM
LOL, why am I not surprised by FORD's posts in this thread.

Has anyone checked to see if FORD's IP address comes from an Olympia mental health facility?

FORD
06-08-2006, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by scamper
Way too much info...

Which is why I apologized before saying it. But it was relevant to the discussion at the time.

fanofdave
06-08-2006, 11:34 AM
Al Zarqawi hoped to meet Allah; the U.S. Armed Forces
just arranged the meeting.

I hope his 50 virgins all look like Rosanne Barr...

FORD
06-08-2006, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
LOL, why am I not surprised by FORD's posts in this thread.

Has anyone checked to see if FORD's IP address comes from an Olympia mental health facility?

OK counselor......

Where's your irrefutable evidence that any such person as Abu Musab Hopalong Al Zarqawi ever existed?

A computerized police sketch?? A video tape of a "terrorist" who doesn't know how to turn his own gun over to automatic fire? Who, by the way, doesn't really look like the guy in the computerized sketch...

If you went to court with that flimsy evidence to prove this guy's existence, how do you think you would do?

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by FORD
OK counselor......

Where's your irrefutable evidence that any such person as Abu Musab Hopalong Al Zarqawi ever existed?

A computerized police sketch?? A video tape of a "terrorist" who doesn't know how to turn his own gun over to automatic fire? Who, by the way, doesn't really look like the guy in the computerized sketch...

If you went to court with that flimsy evidence to prove this guy's existence, how do you think you would do?

I am not the one questioning the official version of events. You are. Therefore, the burden of proof is on you, not me.

FORD
06-08-2006, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I am not the one questioning the official version of events. You are. Therefore, the burden of proof is on you, not me.

The "official version of events" in Iraq used to include the following.....

"Iran has nuclear weapons"

"Iran has armed aerial drones that can reach the East Coast in 15 minutes"

"Saddam Hussein was involved in the attack on the World Trade Center"

"Of course we know where the WMD's are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

How can you accept ANYTHING the BCE tells you as "official"?? :confused:

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 11:53 AM
Nice try, Dave... just let us know when you're ready to prove that al-Zarqawi is a fictional character and that the "BCE" staged his killing.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 11:53 AM
Because "officially", there's no such thing as the BCE?

Redballjets88
06-08-2006, 11:58 AM
im pretty sure a week ago when this guy was alive ford thought he was real

FORD
06-08-2006, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Redballjets88
im pretty sure a week ago when this guy was alive ford thought he was real

Nope. Never did. The stories about this guy with three spare legs and more lives than a cat never added up.

They finally decided to "kill" him because there was nothing left for his character to do. He isn't needed as an excuse for the insurgency. That takes care of itself as long as the country is occupied, and will be fueled by events such as the Haditha massacre. Hopalong Zarqawi was a (non-existant) liability that they didn't need anymore.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 02:29 PM
You just keep telling yourself that someone else believes that steaming pile of crap if it makes you feel better. 99.9% of the people are pretty confident he existed. What one nut thinks isn't my problem.

sadaist
06-08-2006, 03:20 PM
Lib hero Sen. Barbara Boxer (D)stated today 6/8/06 "Al-Zarqawi deserved the end that he got" and " I support this type of targeted mission".

Apparently she thinks he was real.

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 03:22 PM
sadaist,

FORD believes that Boxer is part of the "DLC" and is therefore not a real Democrat.

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 03:25 PM
Show me a "real Democrat" anymore........


They're more rare than jkook11 teeth

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
You just keep telling yourself that someone else believes that steaming pile of crap if it makes you feel better. 99.9% of the people are pretty confident he existed. What one nut thinks isn't my problem.

I believe the man himself existed, as there is proof from Jordan, Iran, etc.......

But BushCO trumped him up into this mythical figure, and THAT TOO is well documented....


Every hero needs a good villain. ChimpCO will now find a new villain....

sadaist
06-08-2006, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine


But BushCO trumped him up into this mythical figure, and THAT TOO is well documented....


Every hero needs a good villain.

Trumped up? You mean like the way libs have done Bush in?

Needing a villain? Just like libs need Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc...

For the record, I think Rumsfeld & Cheney are tools. And I don't mean the useful types:-)

diamondD
06-08-2006, 03:50 PM
Ask the people who's throats he cut how mythical he was.


And FORD, I really don't even care to hear your fantasy land response. I know reality debating is so much harder to do, but you'll just have to deal with the fact you're the only one that believes he didn't exist.

FORD says he doesn't exist because of lack of physical proof, but doesn't need that proof to believe that Jesus Christ existed 2000 years ago. Pretty odd.

THE BCE
06-08-2006, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Because "officially", there's no such thing as the BCE?

You are sadly mistaken.

WACF
06-08-2006, 04:01 PM
SHIT...the BCE found us!

diamondD
06-08-2006, 04:07 PM
OMG! Someone's hacking into my computer as we speak!

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 04:09 PM
fucking trolls :rolleyes:

frets5150
06-08-2006, 04:10 PM
Yeah it looks to me like a 500 lb bomb hit the SafeHouse.


:rolleyes:

sadaist
06-08-2006, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
Yeah it looks to me like a 500 lb bomb hit the SafeHouse.


:rolleyes:

Yep. I've seen car accident victims who were reconstructed for open casket funerals that looked almost like they were still alive.

They never stated he went out front and caught the fucking thing with his hands like Lynn Swann.

WACF
06-08-2006, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
fucking trolls :rolleyes:

C'mon...that was funny.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 04:28 PM
OMG! Someone's hacking into my computer as we speak!

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
OMG! Someone's hacking into my computer as we speak!
Again?

Little Texan
06-08-2006, 04:32 PM
Looks like Gene Simmons taking a nap in that first pic.

WACF
06-08-2006, 04:32 PM
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/al_zarqawi_airstrike_video_Jun_08_2006.html

Real or not who knows.

I agree his body does look good for being near a 500lb bomb.
Perhaps rubble reduced the effect.

FORD
06-08-2006, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Little Texan
Looks like Gene Simmons taking a nap in that first pic.

I thought it looked more like Lucianno Pavarotti, actually.

Does anybody know how Chimpy feels about opera?

diamondD
06-08-2006, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Again?


Even Howard Dean doesn't feel safe around FORD's posts.


http://countrystore.blogspot.com/images/duo.jpg

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 05:00 PM
LOL. Who's that other tinfoil beanie guy?

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 05:03 PM
I like how they FIRST went out and had the pic suitably matted and framed.

Hope they had a coupon.

It can be expensive.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 05:04 PM
I don't know. I was too busy laughing at the other one. :D :D :D

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
LOL. Who's that other tinfoil beanie guy?


FORD himself?

diamondD
06-08-2006, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I like how they FIRST went out and had the pic suitably matted and framed.

Hope they had a coupon.

It can be expensive.

They'll make it up in t-shirt sales.

diamondD
06-08-2006, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
FORD himself?

Yep, hope he's ok with it.

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 05:12 PM
LOL

They should put him on tour like Lenin or King Tut.



And for the record. Imagine if you will, heaven forbid.......Condi or Rummy were killed while on a trip outside the Green Zone, and their remains were on Al Jazeerra for the world to see.

Wouldn't America be UP IN ARMS over that?

Why do we seem to hold the world to much higher standards than we hold ourselves?

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Yep, hope he's ok with it.
LMAO

He's half asleep.

Probably didn't even notice

matt19
06-08-2006, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by FORD
OK counselor......

Where's your irrefutable evidence that any such person as Abu Musab Hopalong Al Zarqawi ever existed?

A computerized police sketch?? A video tape of a "terrorist" who doesn't know how to turn his own gun over to automatic fire? Who, by the way, doesn't really look like the guy in the computerized sketch...

If you went to court with that flimsy evidence to prove this guy's existence, how do you think you would do?

Where is yours that he didnt? You are just gonna make shit up for the next 2 and a half years.

4moreyears
06-08-2006, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by FORD
That's Chimpese for "terrorist"

What is Chimpese? Do you have your own vocabulary?

jcook11
06-08-2006, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Never underestimate what I'm capable of when I haven't had any fucking sleep :mad:

You'll find it much easier to sleep when you stop doing meth, And that whole sleeping in the nude thing is that so LOUNGE MACHINE can have direct acsess to your ass?:blow:

bobgnote
06-08-2006, 05:52 PM
Al Zarkawi was like the Lt. Jean Rasczak character, by Michael Ironside, all field-promoted, DOOMED, moving toward death, knowingly. By the time he made the April video, Al Zarkawi knew he would DIE, soon afterward. That was a death song-vid.

STARSHIP TROOPERS is the flipside-turnaround view of the 2003 war, all predicted and analyzed for our review, 10 YEARS AHEAD!

So let us get STARSHIP TROOPERS II, hero of the federation, ON TV.

Al Zarkawi was going to die, but his death will only forment more opposition to US presence, anywhere, everywhere.

That guy Nick Berg got his head cut off to warn Nic Robertson, CNN.

Ken Bigley got his head cut off to say howdy ho to drunk laugh riot Ken who I know, usta go 'BRING IT ON,' until GW opened HIS bad hole.

Hadj AND GW know where the brown sound came from; what's so tough about YOU kids figuring out this and all the other media shit?

jcook11
06-08-2006, 06:37 PM
bobgnote : please try posting in english, It helps the rest of us understand.

FORD
06-08-2006, 06:48 PM
Someone over at DU has stated their case about Hopalong Headroom far more eloquently than I'm capable of doing at the moment.......



HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts)

Jun-08-06 06:40 PM
Original message
Zarqawi: The "Man who Never Was" is No More

Let's get one thing clear up front: There never was a man whose given name was Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who carried out terrorist activities or led terrorist organizations or factions in Iraq. Any person with a passing familiarity with Arab culture and language would immediately recognize that the name, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi cannot be anyone's given name. The words constitute two nicknames, or at best a nom de guerre.

"Abu" is used as a title of respect for a man who has had a son. Arab fathers are given nickames when their sons are born, such as Abu Musab -- "Musab's father." For example, the current Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, goes by the nickname, Abu Mazen -- Mazen's Dad. So Abu Musab simply means, "Musab's Dad."

In addition, "al Zarqawi" is not this person's family name. It refers to the fact that he is from the town of Zarqa in Jordan. Arabs add "i" to the end of a place to say a person is from there, the way we add "er" or "ian" to the end of a place name -- Zarqawi means the guy from Zarqa, just as "New Yorker" means a person from New York or "Bostonian" means a person from Boston.

So the sum total of the mainstream media's identification of this person is "Musab's Dad, the guy from Zarqa."

How many of the people even here on DU knew this? And how is it that anyone pointing out this indisputable fact is somehow supporting terrorists?

To say that Abu Musab al Zarqawi does not exist, and never existed, does not mean that there was no Jordanian "terrorist" (or "insurgent" or "foreign fighter" or whatever) who went by this nondescript name. But it shows just how lazy and stupid the main stream media is in picking up and using this information-less name. Can you imagine the domestic US media tracking the story of a serial killer of the run, and them identifying the suspect as "Bob's Dad, the guy from the Bronx," and being taken seriously?

The person who was killed yesterday may have been named, Ahmad Fadeel al-Nazal al-Khalayleh, a member of the al-Khalayleh family of the Beni Hassan tribe. But then again, he may not have been. The al-Khalayleh name may also be a pseudonym. We just don't know for sure.

But what we do know is that on April 10, 2006, the Washington Post reported that al-Zarqawi was the subject matter of a US propoganda campaign in Iraq to exaggerate the importance of this person. In internal documents, Gen. Mark Kimmitt stated, "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date."

Again, this does not mean that there was no Jordanian terrorist active in Iraq, a person probably named al Khalayleh, but it does mean that we really don't know very much about what this person did, how influential he was or even who he was.

We also know that he has been reported killed, reported having his leg amputated, reported having not had his leg amputated, having cut off Nick Berg's head while shouting in a non-Jordanian accent, having barely escaped being arrested, having been incarcerated in Iraq but somehow not identified (maybe the US forces were looking for the non existent al Zarqawi rather than for al-Khalayleh).

I don't know what is true or not true about this person. But what I do know is that "he" (or should I say "it") lived not in the hard reality and you and I live in, or even the hard reality that someone like Muqtada as-Sadr lives in, but in a fog of facts and lies and pseudo facts and information and non-information and disinformation -- so much so that the only thing I can say for sure is that he was not exactly whatever you or I thought he was, even if the person behind the mask was a very bad person, as the US government says he was.

4moreyears
06-08-2006, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Someone over at DU has stated their case about Hopalong Headroom far more eloquently than I'm capable of doing at the moment.......

And I thought you were the only nut job. This moron is scarier than you.

FORD
06-08-2006, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
And I thought you were the only nut job. This moron is scarier than you.

And what about their post do you wish to dispute?

Did you get some chain letters educating you in Arabic culture in the last few minutes?

jcook11
06-08-2006, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
And I thought you were the only nut job. This moron is scarier than you.

What's really funny is FORD running around naked in his moms' basement SCREAMING "KENNETH WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY" "GOD PLEASE HELP ME SLEEP! :eek:

matt19
06-08-2006, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by jcook11
What's really funny is FORD running around naked in his moms' basement SCREAMING "KENNETH WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY" "GOD PLEASE HELP ME SLEEP! :eek:

lol

frets5150
06-08-2006, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by sadaist
Yep. I've seen car accident victims who were reconstructed for open casket funerals that looked almost like they were still alive.

They never stated he went out front and caught the fucking thing with his hands like Lynn Swann.


It does not look like he was Embalmed in the photo I posted looks like he's still laying in the Rubble. And if he is they really took great care in doing it for someone so hated.

BTW If we really did get him does this mean the war is over now? Now there will be 3 times the roadside Bombings.


Lynn Swann...I would have said OJ :D

sadaist
06-08-2006, 08:30 PM
Look under the dudes eyebrow and on his cheeks in the 2 seperate photos on this thread. Posts 87 & 88) There were some pretty good holes in his head. They filled them for the media picture. Hell, women do it all the time. A woman with horrible acne can cover it up no problem. For some reason our media doesn't like to show stuff too graphic. Govt knows this so they clean him up a bit to show to the world. Who knows what the rest of his body looks like.

Now if you don't believe this guy exists (Ford), you should still be happy. Because now that he is supposedly dead, you won't have to hear about him anymore.

LoungeMachine
06-08-2006, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by sadaist


Because now that he is supposedly dead, you won't have to hear about him anymore.


Nah. They'll kill him 2-3 more times before the mid-terms :D

Seshmeister
06-08-2006, 08:40 PM
Ooof, debate on BBC tonight with Galloway.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/#

Click on the little video latest program button at the top right.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
06-08-2006, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by frets5150
It does not look like he was Embalmed in the photo I posted looks like he's still laying in the Rubble. And if he is they really took great care in doing it for someone so hated.

BTW If we really did get him does this mean the war is over now? Now there will be 3 times the roadside Bombings.


Lynn Swann...I would have said OJ :D


They cleaned him up. They HAD to. a) they pictures would have been waaaay too gruesome to broadcast in their raw form. b) it would have definitely incited disgust - or at least broadcast "gloating" - amongst America's enemies and human rights groups anywhere, and c) originally a far moree bloody, disgusting picture had been broadcast.

The guy is dead. Good riddance.

And FORD, people have last names based off of the towns where they are from all the time. "Tim O'Sullivan Jr" for example can roughly translate to mean "The son of Tim from the county of Sullivan"...

(and besides, if he or the media changed his name so he was more ready for prime time, why not? "Dave Roth" sounds far more bland - and Jewy - than "David Lee Roth"...which sounds rockin' and kinda southern.)

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
And FORD, people have last names based off of the towns where they are from all the time. "Tim O'Sullivan Jr" for example can roughly translate to mean "The son of Tim from the county of Sullivan"...


What was it like growing up in Asshole County?

EAT MY ASSHOLE
06-08-2006, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
What was it like growing up in Asshole County?

Dark. Dreary. Depressing. Much like Alki.

jcook11
06-08-2006, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
What was it like growing up in Asshole County?

Probably much like where you grew up "pussbag city"

Guitar Shark
06-08-2006, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by jcook11
Probably much like where you grew up "pussbag city"

Wow, you really got me on that one.

What I wouldn't give to have half of your wit! :)

sadaist
06-08-2006, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
They cleaned him up. They HAD to. a) they pictures would have been waaaay too gruesome to broadcast in their raw form. b) it would have definitely incited disgust - or at least broadcast "gloating" - amongst America's enemies and human rights groups anywhere, and c) originally a far moree bloody, disgusting picture had been broadcast.

The guy is dead. Good riddance.

And FORD, people have last names based off of the towns where they are from all the time. "Tim O'Sullivan Jr" for example can roughly translate to mean "The son of Tim from the county of Sullivan"...

(and besides, if he or the media changed his name so he was more ready for prime time, why not? "Dave Roth" sounds far more bland - and Jewy - than "David Lee Roth"...which sounds rockin' and kinda southern.)



Where do you think names like Johnson, Robertson, and Smithson originated from? I hate to say this....I really hate to say this....I really really hate to fucking say this...
but I agree with that post from EAT MY ASSHOLE

Switch84
06-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Knock yourself out! :D

No offense, just trying to paint an accurate picture of his attitude! ;)



:lol: :killer: No offense taken, Diamond D! As a matter of FACT, your description was dead-on...take it from a bitchy menstruating woman (that's getting her chocolate groove on as we type).


Hmm, lemme try again with this dead bitch's pic...

jcook11
06-08-2006, 09:03 PM
They said the same shit about Uday and pussay. Haven't seen them around much lately

Switch84
06-08-2006, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
:rolleyes:

What are you going to do, hit them over the head with your boyfriend's vibrator?

:D


Buwhahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!


Good one,BBB. It's easy to talk 'tough' when the REAL soldiers/Marines/Swabbies/Airmen are doing the work for you, then disrespect them. Shut UP Ford. You don't posess enough backbone to fight, even if it comes a knockin' on your front door.


Back 2 the subject @ hand.....al-Zarqawi's STILL DEAD, bitches!

FORD
06-08-2006, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by jcook11
What's really funny is FORD running around naked in his moms' basement SCREAMING "KENNETH WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY" "GOD PLEASE HELP ME SLEEP! :eek:

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Seshmeister
06-08-2006, 09:22 PM
I find the whole thing kind of fucking pathetic.

FORD's BCE beheading cuntspiracy theory is utter bullshit but the real point here is that people from outside Iraq like this dead cunt only make up about 1% of the violence in Iraq. He was a publicity seeking scum thug but pretty much irrelevant in the great scheme of things.

His importance comes first from his high profile coming from the sick shit of beheading half a dozen poeple on the internet and maybe 20 bombs elsewhere. Bush and Blair shouldn't even be commenting on this. It's a fucking irrelevance. It just shows how weak they are just now.

Another thought is the use of 500lb bombs to try and get a propoganda win. That might sound dd but think about it. Say the government gets good intel that there is a serial killer living next door to you who has killed maybe 20 people. Is it ok for them to bmb your street?

Cheers!

:gulp:

Cheers!

:gulp:

jcook11
06-08-2006, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
I find the whole thing kind of fucking pathetic.

FORD's BCE beheading cuntspiracy theory is utter bullshit but the real point here is that people from outside Iraq like this dead cunt only make up about 1% of the violence in Iraq. He was a publicity seeking scum thug but pretty much irrelevant in the great scheme of things.

His importance comes first from his high profile coming from the sick shit of beheading half a dozen poeple on the internet and maybe 20 bombs elsewhere. Bush and Blair shouldn't even be commenting on this. It's a fucking irrelevance. It just shows how weak they are just now.

Another thought is the use of 500lb bombs to try and get a propoganda win. That might sound dd but think about it. Say the government gets good intel that there is a serial killer living next door to you who has killed maybe 20 people. Is it ok for them to bmb your street?

Cheers!

:gulp:

Cheers!

:gulp:

Sesh you don't seem to give UBLS' second in command much credit My guess that this guy is responsible for a lot more shit than we even know about

jcook11
06-08-2006, 09:41 PM
What kind of nonsense are you leftwing liberals gonna say when we finally get UBL, You think that cocksucker isn't shitting his pants right now?

rustoffa
06-08-2006, 09:47 PM
This is the fucking funny thread of the MILLENIUM!!!

Personal favorites?


Originally posted by scamper
Way too much info...


Originally posted by FORD
Which is why I apologized before saying it. But it was relevant to the discussion at the time.




Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Show me a "real Democrat" anymore........

They're more rare than jkook11 teeth



Originally posted by sadaist
Yep. I've seen car accident victims who were reconstructed for open casket funerals that looked almost like they were still alive.




Originally posted by FORD
If those treasonous pussies show up at my home, they'll be reassigned to Hell about 5 seconds later.



Originally posted by thome
It just prooves my point the Isolationist attitude and closed structure
of these mideastern societies has led to massive inbreeding the
everyman must wear the same style beard is all designed to
have everyone look like everyone else hard to tell the priest from
the terrorist.



Originally posted by jcook11
You'll find it much easier to sleep when you stop doing meth, And that whole sleeping in the nude thing is that so LOUNGE MACHINE can have direct acsess to your ass?:blow:



Originally posted by Guitar Shark
What was it like growing up in Asshole County?


Originally posted by jcook11
Probably much like where you grew up "pussbag city"

Holy fucking shit....I'm crying.
:lol: :rockit:

jcook11
06-08-2006, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Wow, you really got me on that one.

What I wouldn't give to have half of your wit! :)

Whatta ya got?

frets5150
06-08-2006, 09:55 PM
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sadaist For some reason our media doesn't like to show stuff too graphic. Govt knows this so they clean him up a bit to show to the world./QUOTE]


Since when :rolleyes:


http://poetry.rotten.com/uday/

frets5150
06-08-2006, 09:59 PM
:rolleyes:

EAT MY ASSHOLE
06-08-2006, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by sadaist

I agree with that post from EAT MY ASSHOLE

Huh? Eating assholes agrees with you? CALL ME!!!!

frets5150
06-08-2006, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
LOL

They should put him on tour like Lenin or King Tut.



And for the record. Imagine if you will, heaven forbid.......Condi or Rummy were killed while on a trip outside the Green Zone, and their remains were on Al Jazeerra for the world to see.

Wouldn't America be UP IN ARMS over that?

Why do we seem to hold the world to much higher standards than we hold ourselves?


How dare you even think such a thing :mad:

ODShowtime
06-08-2006, 10:06 PM
Peace and pig grease. I thought he was fake.

jcook11
06-08-2006, 10:14 PM
Why doesn't someone ask him if that "really is him" Dead men tell no lies

FORD
06-08-2006, 10:23 PM
Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi
Jordanian Painted As Foreign Threat To Iraq's Stability

By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 10, 2006; A01

The U.S. military is conducting a propaganda campaign to magnify the role of the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, according to internal military documents and officers familiar with the program. The effort has raised his profile in a way that some military intelligence officials believe may have overstated his importance and helped the Bush administration tie the war to the organization responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The documents state that the U.S. campaign aims to turn Iraqis against Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian, by playing on their perceived dislike of foreigners. U.S. authorities claim some success with that effort, noting that some tribal Iraqi insurgents have attacked Zarqawi loyalists.

For the past two years, U.S. military leaders have been using Iraqi media and other outlets in Baghdad to publicize Zarqawi's role in the insurgency. The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.

Some senior intelligence officers believe Zarqawi's role may have been overemphasized by the propaganda campaign, which has included leaflets, radio and television broadcasts, Internet postings and at least one leak to an American journalist. Although Zarqawi and other foreign insurgents in Iraq have conducted deadly bombing attacks, they remain "a very small part of the actual numbers," Col. Derek Harvey, who served as a military intelligence officer in Iraq and then was one of the top officers handling Iraq intelligence issues on the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told an Army meeting at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., last summer.

In a transcript of the meeting, Harvey said, "Our own focus on Zarqawi has enlarged his caricature, if you will -- made him more important than he really is, in some ways."

"The long-term threat is not Zarqawi or religious extremists, but these former regime types and their friends," said Harvey, who did not return phone calls seeking comment on his remarks.

There has been a running argument among specialists in Iraq about how much significance to assign to Zarqawi, who spent seven years in prison in Jordan for attempting to overthrow the government there. After his release he spent time in Pakistan and Afghanistan before moving his base of operations to Iraq. He has been sentenced to death in absentia for planning the 2002 assassination of U.S. diplomat Lawrence Foley in Jordan. U.S. authorities have said he is responsible for dozens of deaths in Iraq and have placed a $25 million bounty on his head.

Recently there have been unconfirmed reports of a possible rift between Zarqawi and the parent al-Qaeda organization that may have resulted in his being demoted or cut loose. Last week, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said that it was unclear what was happening between Zarqawi and al-Qaeda. "It may be that he's not being fired at all, but that he is being focused on the military side of the al-Qaeda effort and he's being asked to leave more of a political side possibly to others, because of some disagreements within al-Qaeda," he said.

The military's propaganda program largely has been aimed at Iraqis, but seems to have spilled over into the U.S. media. One briefing slide about U.S. "strategic communications" in Iraq, prepared for Army Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the top U.S. commander in Iraq, describes the "home audience" as one of six major targets of the American side of the war.

That slide, created by Casey's subordinates, does not specifically state that U.S. citizens were being targeted by the effort, but other sections of the briefings indicate that there were direct military efforts to use the U.S. media to affect views of the war. One slide in the same briefing, for example, noted that a "selective leak" about Zarqawi was made to Dexter Filkins, a New York Times reporter based in Baghdad. Filkins's resulting article, about a letter supposedly written by Zarqawi and boasting of suicide attacks in Iraq, ran on the Times front page on Feb. 9, 2004.

Leaks to reporters from U.S. officials in Iraq are common, but official evidence of a propaganda operation using an American reporter is rare.

Filkins, reached by e-mail, said that he was not told at the time that there was a psychological operations campaign aimed at Zarqawi, but said he assumed that the military was releasing the letter "because it had decided it was in its best interest to have it publicized." No special conditions were placed upon him in being briefed on its contents, he said. He said he was skeptical about the document's authenticity then, and remains so now, and so at the time tried to confirm its authenticity with officials outside the U.S. military.

"There was no attempt to manipulate the press," Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the U.S. military's chief spokesman when the propaganda campaign began in 2004, said in an interview Friday. "We trusted Dexter to write an accurate story, and we gave him a good scoop."

Another briefing slide states that after U.S. commanders ordered that the atrocities of Saddam Hussein's government be publicized, U.S. psychological operations soldiers produced a video disc that not only was widely disseminated inside Iraq, but also was "seen on Fox News."

U.S. military policy is not to aim psychological operations at Americans, said Army Col. James A. Treadwell, who commanded the U.S. military psyops unit in Iraq in 2003. "It is ingrained in U.S.: You don't psyop Americans. We just don't do it," said Treadwell. He said he left Iraq before the Zarqawi program began but was later told about it.

"When we provided stuff, it was all in Arabic," and aimed at the Iraqi and Arab media, said another military officer familiar with the program, who spoke on background because he is not supposed to speak to reporters.

But this officer said that the Zarqawi campaign "probably raised his profile in the American press's view."

With satellite television, e-mail and the Internet, it is impossible to prevent some carryover from propaganda campaigns overseas into the U.S. media, said Treadwell, who is now director of a new project at the U.S. Special Operations Command that focuses on "trans-regional" media issues. Such carryover is "not blowback, it's bleed-over," he said. "There's always going to be a certain amount of bleed-over with the global information environment."

The Zarqawi program was not related to another effort, led by the Lincoln Group, a U.S. consulting firm, to place pro-U.S. articles in Iraq newspapers, according to the officer familiar with the program who spoke on background.

It is difficult to determine how much has been spent on the Zarqawi campaign, which began two years ago and is believed to be ongoing. U.S. propaganda efforts in Iraq in 2004 cost $24 million, but that included extensive building of offices and residences for troops involved, as well as radio broadcasts and distribution of thousands of leaflets with Zarqawi's face on them, said the officer speaking on background.

The Zarqawi campaign is discussed in several of the internal military documents. "Villainize Zarqawi/leverage xenophobia response," one U.S. military briefing from 2004 stated. It listed three methods: "Media operations," "Special Ops (626)" (a reference to Task Force 626, an elite U.S. military unit assigned primarily to hunt in Iraq for senior officials in Hussein's government) and "PSYOP," the U.S. military term for propaganda work.

One internal briefing, produced by the U.S. military headquarters in Iraq, said that Kimmitt had concluded that, "The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date."

Kimmitt is now the senior planner on the staff of the Central Command that directs operations in Iraq and the rest of the Middle East.

In 2003 and 2004, he coordinated public affairs, information operations and psychological operations in Iraq -- though he said in an interview the internal briefing must be mistaken because he did not actually run the psychological operations and could not speak for them.

Kimmitt said, "There was clearly an information campaign to raise the public awareness of who Zarqawi was, primarily for the Iraqi audience but also with the international audience."

A goal of the campaign was to drive a wedge into the insurgency by emphasizing Zarqawi's terrorist acts and foreign origin, said officers familiar with the program.

"Through aggressive Strategic Communications, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi now represents: Terrorism in Iraq/Foreign Fighters in Iraq/Suffering of Iraqi People (Infrastructure Attacks)/Denial of Iraqi Aspirations," the same briefing asserts.

Officials said one indication that the campaign worked is that over the past several months, there have been reports that Iraqi tribal insurgents have attacked Zarqawi loyalists, especially in the culturally conservative province of Anbar. "What we're finding is indeed the people of al-Anbar -- Fallujah and Ramadi, specifically -- have decided to turn against terrorists and foreign fighters," Maj. Gen Rick Lynch, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, said in February.

ashstralia
06-09-2006, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by fanofdave
Al Zarqawi hoped to meet Allah; the U.S. Armed Forces
just arranged the meeting.

I hope his 50 virgins all look like Rosanne Barr...

heheh...and they're all wearing strap-ons

grate post.

ashstralia
06-09-2006, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by frets5150
[QUOTE]
Since when :rolleyes:



grate, just fucking grate.

frets has discovered rotten.

prepare for the barrage!


:56k:

frets5150
06-09-2006, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by ashstralia
grate, just fucking grate.

frets has discovered rotten.

prepare for the barrage!


:56k:

No actually I had these for quiet a while WiseAss.Is that all you came here to say? :rolleyes:

BITEYOASS
06-09-2006, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by frets5150
:rolleyes:

Whoever did this patch up job really sucked. It reminds me of the job they did with one of the Hussein brothers, one of them wound up looking like Freddie Mercury.

LoungeMachine
06-09-2006, 10:49 AM
Al-Zarqawi Said to Survive Airstrike

Friday, June 9, 2006

WASHINGTON - A mortally wounded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was still alive and mumbling on a gurney when Iraqi police arrived at the site bombed by U.S. forces there, a top American military spokesman said Friday.

Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell, briefing military reporters at the Pentagon from his post in Baghdad, said he learned that al-Zarqawi was alive after getting briefings on the military operation that netted al-Zarqawi and several others.

"He mumbled something but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," Caldwell said.

The U.S. military earlier had displayed images of the battered face of al-Zarqawi and reported that he had been identified by fingerprints, tattoos and scars. Biological samples from his body also were delivered to an FBI crime laboratory in Virginia for DNA testing. The results were expected in three days.

Caldwell said Friday that authorities made a visual identification of al-Zarqawi upon arriving at the site of the airstrike.

He said that when the terrorist "attempted to sort of turn away off the stretcher, everybody resecured him back onto the stretcher. ... He died almost immediately thereafter from the wounds he'd received from this airstrike."

"We did in fact see him alive," Caldwell said. "There was some sort of movement he had on the stretcher and he did die a short time later. There was confirmation from the Iraqi police that he was found alive."

The story was first reported by Fox News Channel's "Fox and Friends."

Al-Zarqawi, who had a $25 million bounty on his head, was killed at 6:15 p.m. Wednesday after an intense two-week hunt that U.S. officials said first led to the terror leader's spiritual adviser and then to him.

U.S. Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said at the time that the American airstrike targeted "an identified, isolated safe house." Four other people, including a woman and a child, were killed with al-Zarqawi and Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Iraqi, the terrorist's spiritual consultant.

Caldwell said it was unclear whether al-Zarqawi was trying to get away as he writhed around on his stretcher.

Revising what military officials said Thursday, Caldwell said it now appears there was no child among those killed in the bombing. He cautioned that some facts were still being sorted out.

He said three women and three men, including al-Zarqawi, were killed.

frets5150
06-09-2006, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by BITEYOASS
Whoever did this patch up job really sucked. It reminds me of the job they did with one of the Hussein brothers, one of them wound up looking like Freddie Mercury.

:confused: That is Odai Hussein in the photo that you Quoted

4moreyears
06-09-2006, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by jcook11
They said the same shit about Uday and pussay. Haven't seen them around much lately

Were they made up too Ford?

Little Texan
06-09-2006, 06:49 PM
C'mon, Ford. If Al Zarqawi is just some made up, bullshit cartoon character created by the U.S. government, then why did al Qaida release a statement after his death acknowledging him, thus confirming his existence? Surely you are more intelligent than to actually believe that rubbish about Zarqawi being nothing more than a computer rendered sketch? Now I believe that he was probably made out to be more important and bigger than he actually was, but fact of the matter is he did exist, and al Qaida releasing a statement about his death confirms it. What reason do they have to go along with a U.S. orchestrated charade if he doesn't actually exist?

FORD
06-09-2006, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Little Texan
C'mon, Ford. If Al Zarqawi is just some made up, bullshit cartoon character created by the U.S. government, then why did al Qaida release a statement after his death acknowledging him, thus confirming his existence? Surely you are more intelligent than to actually believe that rubbish about Zarqawi being nothing more than a computer rendered sketch? Now I believe that he was probably made out to be more important and bigger than he actually was, but fact of the matter is he did exist, and al Qaida releasing a statement about his death confirms it. What reason do they have to go along with a U.S. orchestrated charade if he doesn't actually exist?

How do you know Al Qaeda actually issued this alleged statement.

Given everything else the BCE has lied about, this would be a minor diificulty at best for them to pull off.

diamondD
06-09-2006, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Al-Zarqawi Said to Survive Airstrike

Friday, June 9, 2006

WASHINGTON - A mortally wounded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was still alive and mumbling on a gurney when Iraqi police arrived at the site bombed by U.S. forces there, a top American military spokesman said Friday.

Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell, briefing military reporters at the Pentagon from his post in Baghdad, said he learned that al-Zarqawi was alive after getting briefings on the military operation that netted al-Zarqawi and several others.

"He mumbled something but it was indistinguishable and it was very short," Caldwell said.

The U.S. military earlier had displayed images of the battered face of al-Zarqawi and reported that he had been identified by fingerprints, tattoos and scars. Biological samples from his body also were delivered to an FBI crime laboratory in Virginia for DNA testing. The results were expected in three days.

Caldwell said Friday that authorities made a visual identification of al-Zarqawi upon arriving at the site of the airstrike.

He said that when the terrorist "attempted to sort of turn away off the stretcher, everybody resecured him back onto the stretcher. ... He died almost immediately thereafter from the wounds he'd received from this airstrike."

"We did in fact see him alive," Caldwell said. "There was some sort of movement he had on the stretcher and he did die a short time later. There was confirmation from the Iraqi police that he was found alive."

The story was first reported by Fox News Channel's "Fox and Friends."

Al-Zarqawi, who had a $25 million bounty on his head, was killed at 6:15 p.m. Wednesday after an intense two-week hunt that U.S. officials said first led to the terror leader's spiritual adviser and then to him.

U.S. Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, said at the time that the American airstrike targeted "an identified, isolated safe house." Four other people, including a woman and a child, were killed with al-Zarqawi and Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Iraqi, the terrorist's spiritual consultant.

Caldwell said it was unclear whether al-Zarqawi was trying to get away as he writhed around on his stretcher.

Revising what military officials said Thursday, Caldwell said it now appears there was no child among those killed in the bombing. He cautioned that some facts were still being sorted out.

He said three women and three men, including al-Zarqawi, were killed.

It's good to know he suffered for a bit and knew he was dying insted of it being instant.

diamondD
06-09-2006, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by FORD
How do you know Al Qaeda actually issued this alleged statement.

Given everything else the BCE has lied about, this would be a minor diificulty at best for them to pull off.


When are you gonna admit you were wrong about them not being able to make cell phone calls from the hijacked planes on 9-11? Not talking about it doesn't mean you weren't wrong.

jcook11
06-09-2006, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Little Texan
C'mon, Ford. If Al Zarqawi is just some made up, bullshit cartoon character created by the U.S. government, then why did al Qaida release a statement after his death acknowledging him, thus confirming his existence? Surely you are more intelligent than to actually believe that rubbish about Zarqawi being nothing more than a computer rendered sketch? Now I believe that he was probably made out to be more important and bigger than he actually was, but fact of the matter is he did exist, and al Qaida releasing a statement about his death confirms it. What reason do they have to go along with a U.S. orchestrated charade if he doesn't actually exist?

"More intelligent than who:Ted Kennedy, Shrillary , Nancy Pelosi, Dick Gephartd, Chuck Shumer,Walter Mondale,Jimmy Carter Al Gore, Al Sharpton Jesse Jackson, Joe Biden,Geraldine Ferraro, Mike Dukakis or maybe Dennis Kusinich, Barbara Boxer or Diane Feinstein, or John Kerry or Cynthia Mckinney. :D

Seshmeister
06-09-2006, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Little Texan
C'mon, Ford. If Al Zarqawi is just some made up, bullshit cartoon character created by the U.S. government, then why did al Qaida release a statement after his death acknowledging him, thus confirming his existence? Surely you are more intelligent than to actually believe that rubbish about Zarqawi being nothing more than a computer rendered sketch? Now I believe that he was probably made out to be more important and bigger than he actually was, but fact of the matter is he did exist, and al Qaida releasing a statement about his death confirms it. What reason do they have to go along with a U.S. orchestrated charade if he doesn't actually exist?


Of course the cunt existed of course the cunt is now dead.

The thing that still hasn't fucking filtered down to the most people is that that Al Queda is NOT A FUCKING ORGANISATION.

After 9-11 Rumsfeld was on TV showing diagrams of Al Queda James Bond style headquarters built underground in Afghanistan with guns and living quarters and whatnot. It was like the volcano in 'You Only live twice'.

There are TV clips of him saying and describing this. UTTER SHIT. Either spectacular lies or our intel are spastics.

Al Queda is an idiology not an organisation like Spectre or whatever.

If Bin Laden was killed tomorrow it wouldn't make a cunt of difference just like this twat being blown up doesn't.

All that does matter is whether Ahmed living next door to you decides that he wants to kill people.

jcook11
06-09-2006, 09:46 PM
Not an organization....What a fucking retard

ashstralia
06-10-2006, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by frets5150
No actually I had these for quiet a while WiseAss.Is that all you came here to say? :rolleyes:



gertcha!!!!

frets5150
06-10-2006, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by ashstralia
gertcha!!!!


Who the Hell is Sid James
:rolleyes:

FORD
06-10-2006, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by jcook11
Sesh you don't seem to give UBLS' second in command much credit My guess that this guy is responsible for a lot more shit than we even know about

Second in command?

Put down the crack pipe, moron.

Hopalong Zarqawi, or whatever his name was, NEVER FUCKING MET Osama Bin Laden. The only connection to Al Qaeda was the one manufactured by the BCE for propaganda purposes.

Get this through your empty skull....

THERE IS NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS AN "INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" CALLED AL QAEDA!!!

The only true international terrorists are CIA, the Mossad, etc.

Terrorists only care about local issues. Hamas wants Israel to get out of Palestinian territory. The IRA wanted England to get the Hell out of Northern Ireland (Ulster). Eric Rudolph blew up abortion clinics and gay bars in the name of his fucked up right wing political agenda.

What do these three terrorists have in common, other than methods?

Not a fucking thing. You think Hamas cares if Ireland is controlled by the Irish? You think Eric Rudolph, a racist anti-semite Klan bastard cares whether the Jews or the Palestinians live in the Gaza strip. You think the IRA gives a shit about an abortion clinic in Atlanta?

There's no links between these terrorists. Just like there was no link between Hopalong Headroom and Osama Bin Laden.

BigBadBrian
06-10-2006, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by FORD

Get this through your empty skull....

THERE IS NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS AN "INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" CALLED AL QAEDA!!!

The only true international terrorists are CIA, the Mossad, etc.



Tell that to the families of the '93 WTC attack, the Khobar Towers, the embassies in Africa, the USS Cole, and WTC 2001. :mad:

Your last statement above does nothing more than illustrate your contempt and hatred for Israel and, above all, this country.

:gulp:

bobgnote
06-10-2006, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Second in command?
---------------
Hopalong Zarqawi, or whatever his name was, NEVER FUCKING MET Osama Bin Laden. The only connection to Al Qaeda was the one manufactured by the BCE for propaganda purposes.
---------------------
THERE IS NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS AN "INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" CALLED AL QAEDA!!!

The only true international terrorists are CIA, the Mossad, etc.

Terrorists only care about local issues. Hamas wants Israel to get out of Palestinian territory. The IRA wanted England to get the Hell out of Northern Ireland (Ulster). Eric Rudolph blew up abortion clinics and gay bars in the name of his fucked up right wing political agenda.

What do these three terrorists have in common, other than methods?

Not a fucking thing. You think Hamas cares if Ireland is controlled by the Irish? You think Eric Rudolph, a racist anti-semite Klan bastard cares whether the Jews or the Palestinians live in the Gaza strip. You think the IRA gives a shit about an abortion clinic in Atlanta?

There's no links between these terrorists. Just like there was no link between Hopalong Headroom and Osama Bin Laden.

Zarkawi killed selectively, to show that foreigners should LEAVE.

He knew his time was up, hence the April vid was his death-song.

He cut off Nick Berg to warn Nic Robertson, CNN, he cut off Ken Bigsley to warn a guy I know about yakking 'BRING IT ON,' so GW would not pimp up the wholesale destruction method of the USA, to support apostate Balfour Diplomacy, by the USA, defunct by British, 1932!

We stayed out of the League, so why hassle the Middle East, now?

Zarkawi cut off John Henley to warn the US about it's F-15s and lousy, incorporated, country-music capitals, it likes to drop down on clients, ad infinitum, so we taxpayers pay for US decadence, for generations, where it never belonged, supporting tatted-out idiots and their progression to stony peaceniks, not all at once or efficiently, since the US lower classes are acting like bad-DNA critters, to be sent after Hobbits, egregiously, by Sargon.

Sargon is a name taken from the first Mesopotamian despot, to load up on military industry, starting a trend, to end in WWIII, likely, since the USA has pushed the Middle East to WWII and a half, right before the anticipated come-uppance for the USA, by worse terror attacks, than we have seen, yet.

Zarkawi is like the Lt. Rasczak character, played by Mike Ironside, ST1.

We knew HE would die before the end of the film, didn't we. Brain Bug looks like Bonds. That's my damn story, so shove it.

Nickdfresh
06-12-2006, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
I find the whole thing kind of fucking pathetic.

FORD's BCE beheading cuntspiracy theory is utter bullshit but the real point here is that people from outside Iraq like this dead cunt only make up about 1% of the violence in Iraq. He was a publicity seeking scum thug but pretty much irrelevant in the great scheme of things.

His importance comes first from his high profile coming from the sick shit of beheading half a dozen poeple on the internet and maybe 20 bombs elsewhere. Bush and Blair shouldn't even be commenting on this. It's a fucking irrelevance. It just shows how weak they are just now.

Another thought is the use of 500lb bombs to try and get a propoganda win. That might sound dd but think about it. Say the government gets good intel that there is a serial killer living next door to you who has killed maybe 20 people. Is it ok for them to bmb your street?

Cheers!

:gulp:

Cheers!

:gulp:


Originally posted by Seshmeister
Of course the cunt existed of course the cunt is now dead.

The thing that still hasn't fucking filtered down to the most people is that that Al Queda is NOT A FUCKING ORGANISATION.

After 9-11 Rumsfeld was on TV showing diagrams of Al Queda James Bond style headquarters built underground in Afghanistan with guns and living quarters and whatnot. It was like the volcano in 'You Only live twice'.

There are TV clips of him saying and describing this. UTTER SHIT. Either spectacular lies or our intel are spastics.

Al Queda is an idiology not an organisation like Spectre or whatever.

If Bin Laden was killed tomorrow it wouldn't make a cunt of difference just like this twat being blown up doesn't.

All that does matter is whether Ahmed living next door to you decides that he wants to kill people.

I cun't say it any better...

Well done Sesh...

:guzzle:

Nickdfresh
06-12-2006, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Tell that to the families of the '93 WTC attack, the Khobar Towers, the embassies in Africa, the USS Cole, and WTC 2001. :mad:

"Al-Qaida" never claimed responsibility for the Khobar Towers (Hezbollah of Saudi Arabia --backed by Iran of course, which is a Shia-sect related terror movement, while al-Qaida is a Sunni Islam movement...) and the 1993 WTC attack.

BTW, I guess the 300 or so US Marines that died in Beirut circa 1983 doesn't matter to you --you commie-traitor and hater of the US Marine Corps!:mad:

Brian, why do you hate US Marines?:(


Your last statement above does nothing more than illustrate your contempt and hatred for Israel and, above all, this country.

:gulp:

How's that, retard?

Unchainme
06-12-2006, 10:49 PM
It's kickass to see Nick back around these parts. How has it been man?

Nickdfresh
06-12-2006, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Unchainme
It's kickass to see Nick back around these parts. How has it been man?

It's been good kiddo...

I'm doing well.

And for the record, I'm glad as anyone that Al-Zarqawi died, and that he died a painful death essentially drowning in lungs filled with blood from the trauma inflicted by the blast-wave concussion of a 500lbs bomb going off. But frankly, he was overrated and was given far too much press by the US Gov't in order to support their bullshit "Iraq is a part of the War on Terror" assertion.

jcook11
06-13-2006, 04:24 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Second in command?

Put down the crack pipe, moron.

Hopalong Zarqawi, or whatever his name was, NEVER FUCKING MET Osama Bin Laden. The only connection to Al Qaeda was the one manufactured by the BCE for propaganda purposes.

Get this through your empty skull....

THERE IS NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS AN "INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION" CALLED AL QAEDA!!!

The only true international terrorists are CIA, the Mossad, etc.

Terrorists only care about local issues. Hamas wants Israel to get out of Palestinian territory. The IRA wanted England to get the Hell out of Northern Ireland (Ulster). Eric Rudolph blew up abortion clinics and gay bars in the name of his fucked up right wing political agenda.

What do these three terrorists have in common, other than methods?

Not a fucking thing. You think Hamas cares if Ireland is controlled by the Irish? You think Eric Rudolph, a racist anti-semite Klan bastard cares whether the Jews or the Palestinians live in the Gaza strip. You think the IRA gives a shit about an abortion clinic in Atlanta?

There's no links between these terrorists. Just like there was no link between Hopalong Headroom and Osama Bin Laden.

You should really stop fuckimg with that home made meth FORD ,no such thing as terrorists or AL QEDA.

FORD
06-13-2006, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by jcook11
You should really stop fuckimg with that home made meth FORD ,no such thing as terrorists or AL QEDA.

I didn't say there wasn't any such thing as terrorists.

BigBadBrian
06-13-2006, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
"Al-Qaida" never claimed responsibility for the Khobar Towers (Hezbollah of Saudi Arabia --backed by Iran of course, which is a Shia-sect related terror movement, while al-Qaida is a Sunni Islam movement...) and the 1993 WTC attack.

BTW, I guess the 300 or so US Marines that died in Beirut circa 1983 doesn't matter to you --you commie-traitor and hater of the US Marine Corps!:mad:

Brian, why do you hate US Marines?:(



How's that, retard?

I'm glad to see you're well and back with your usual silliness. :)

I had held you in high regard for debating but that soon may change.

You obviously feel the need to insult me instead of debating in a civil fashion. Most liberals, with the exception of a few, are of the same ilk in this forum.

Good day. :)

ashstralia
06-13-2006, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by FORD
I didn't say there wasn't any such thing as terrorists.

just 'terraists'.

Sgt Schultz
06-13-2006, 09:12 AM
oops wrong thread

ULTRAMAN VH
06-13-2006, 10:20 AM
Welcome back Nick!! even though we seem to be on different sides of the political fence, I enjoy reading your threads and debating with you. On another note, I wonder how many far left Democrats will be attending the Zarqawi funeral.

Nickdfresh
06-14-2006, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Welcome back Nick!! even though we seem to be on different sides of the political fence, I enjoy reading your threads and debating with you.

Thank you, glad to be back. I was going into withdrawl...



On another note, I wonder how many far left Democrats will be attending the Zarqawi funeral.

C'mon man, you know this is crap, no one liked Zarqawi, and some on the far left refuse to believe he ever existed to begin with apparently. And I think they don't even know what to do with his corpse since no one really wants it, especially his native Jordan...