Amnesty For Iraqis Who ONLY Kill U.S. Troops, White House Welcomes Initiative

[Phil theStalker]

Make NO mistake: Iraq's government does NOT support the U.S. troops dying f4or them.

How did u ALL miss it?

Or do you ALL condone this madness?

Here look: Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/14/AR2006061402432.html)

Iraq's "new" government has created a plan to grant amnesty t2o those who have killed ONLY U.S. soldiers!

Hey, I'm for that! :p

Republican Senators (http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/06/so-republicans-are-for-amnesty-for.html) defend and condone this policy.

The Iraqi official who made the announcement quit, but stood by his words. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/15/AR2006061501267.html?nav=hcmodule) "The Prime Minister himself has said that he is ready to give amnesty to the so-called resistance, provided they have not been involved in killing Iraqis," Kadhimi said.

Yeh, amnesty f4or only killing U.S. troops, and ONLY U.S. troops.

Sounds like a friendly government t2o me. What about YOU?!

What about these t2wo kids (U.S. soldiers) that were just captured and killed? Amnesty f4or those who did it? Why SURE!

In BUSH/CLINTON/BIDEN/CHENEY land it's, "OKTAY, SBANKY'! (A little Buckwheat f4or ya)

How do the MOMS of U.S. soldiers who are over there feel about this 'amnesty' plan?

Where's the media on this?

Where're the Dems on this?

Where is the Rotharmy on this?

Who cares.

War is on the horizon.

It's the ONLY way t2o get these guys out.

Can of beans and some ammo. You can't do any worse than the lowly wogs against disciplined, professional, regulars of the U.S. military. Huh

War is on the horizon in America.


:spank:

[Phil theStalker]

I'm f4or taking back the country.

Warham, you'll like tit when we're in charge.:)


:spank:

[LoungeMachine]

Mission Accomplished.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Mission Accomplished.
Cuntsidering dat there are already UNISF troops who have no real combat experience with real Americans (or anybody else) inside America already it should be a real turkey shoot, just like the American Revolution, sending those body bags back t2o Slovakia, Russia, Ukrainie, and so on. Boys who should not be here in military uniforms with weapons in the first place.

You want a war?

No you don't.

But...THEY do.

And you and I know who they are.

Where do they think they are going t2o hide when war breaks out in America?

Y'know, Hitler built da Audubon...but HE and his Nazis never got t2o use it, and they are building their NAFTA highway...but they are never going t2o be able t2o use it either.

Look what it took t2o shut down Hitler. A destroyed Germany and destroyed Europe.

Look what it's going t2o take t2o shut down them. A destroyed U.S.A., and destroyed North America.


:spank:

[Phil theStalker]

You want U.N. troops combat experience?

"In Somalia, U.N. troops ROASTED a Somali boy over a fire, and FORCED other Somali children to drink vomit." (http://tacklingthetoughtopics.net/Eberhart/eberhart_presence_foreign_troops.html)


:spank:

[LoungeMachine]

Funny how BigBadBrie, ASSPipe, and Warpig have all grown silent on their "Look at all of the good news from Iraq" posturing.



You Cons support this?


Is this the "progress" you've been touting?

[thome]

Wackadoo wacka wacka wacka wackadoo.

[Phil theStalker]

Welllllllllllllllllllllll...lessee!

AMNESTY from Bush f4or da illegal, hepaTITus, diseased, immingrates...

AMNESTY from Bush's puppet gov. in Iraq f4or da wogs who killed...all those 12 troops dis weekend...and only U.S. troops. Just git dat straight.

...

I say BBB, warhat, ummm, and so on, APPROVE!

Why woodn't they?

Tit's Bush's plan!

Gotta follow da 'dear leader', and all aff dat DICKtatorhip shit.


:spank:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by thome
Wackadoo wacka wacka wacka wackadoo.


You better hope they never give me editing powers :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:




Hello, Lounge!

--Dr. Love

[Dr. Love]

What I don't get is how people can read Phil's posts and take them seriously.

He could have the most thought-inspiring posts, but I'll never know, because I can't get beyond the way he writes them.

To be honest, I have to wonder what the average time it takes for him to post a paragraph would be, or if his "approach" to grammar is now so well-trained that it would be difficult to abandon.

Whichever it is, I'll spare my brain the torment of trying to process his posts and just ignore them.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You better hope they never give me editing powers :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:




Hello, Lounge!

--Dr. Love


:D

[LoungeMachine]

Divisive Plan to Unify Iraq

Sunnis object to much of Maliki's blueprint for national reconciliation.

U.S. senators deride its call for amnesty for some insurgents.

By Borzou Daragahi, Times Staff Writer
8:18 PM PDT, June 25, 2006


BAGHDAD — Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki unveiled an ambitious, U.S.-backed plan for bringing together ethnic and sectarian factions that left open the possibility of offering amnesty to some insurgents who had killed American or Iraqi troops.

The 28-point plan, presented to parliament Sunday, includes amnesty "for those not proved to be involved in crimes, terrorist activities and war crimes against humanity," deliberately vague language hammered out over long and heated closed-door discussions involving both Iraqis and Americans.



Maliki, speaking to lawmakers packed inside the Baghdad Convention Center in the high-security Green Zone, said the plan "does not mean honoring and accepting killers and criminals." However, it calls for releasing thousands of suspected insurgents who "pledge to condemn violence and vow to back" the government. It also advocates ending rules that keep some former members of the once-ruling Baath Party out of political life, provided they haven't commit crimes in the past.

"We realize that there is a segment of those who rebelled against the righteousness, rational and logical and took Satan's route," said Maliki, who took over the premiership a month ago amid high expectations among his war-weary countrymen and U.S. officials. "To those who want to build and reform, we present hands that carry olive branches."

The introduction of the plan came as violence claimed at least 23 Iraqi lives and a video surfaced showing the execution of two men alleged to be Russian hostages seized in Iraq this month, along with footage of a third body.

U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, speaking to reporters after the parliamentary session, did not rule out the possibility of pardons for insurgents who had belonged to groups that had taken up arms against American forces.

Only "irreconcilables" — insurgents who fundamentally oppose the Iraqi state, either by fighting for a return of Baath Party dictatorship or for Al Qaeda's vision of a second Islamic Caliphate — would be categorically excluded, he said.

"All wars must come to an end, and hostility has to be replaced by reconciliation, and difficult decisions have to be made by all," he said. "I'm optimistic that we can reach an understanding on this issue but also one that meets the requirements of justice."

The White House welcomed the initiative, but did not comment on the amnesty proposal.

Reaction from U.S. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, however, was harsh. "The idea that they should even consider talking about amnesty for people who have killed people who liberated their country is unconscionable," Michigan Sen. Carl Levin, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, told "Fox News Sunday."

Sen. Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind.) told CBS' "Face the Nation" that any amnesty proposal "is going to run into solid opposition" in the Senate, where he chairs the Foreign Relations Committee.

Maliki was approved as prime minister five weeks ago after a months-long political crisis over formation of a long-term government. His plan, forged in close consultation with U.S. political and military leaders, is among the most wide-reaching attempts by an Iraqi leader to address the widening religious and political chasms that emerged after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion and attempt to reduce the country's violence.

Many Iraqi analysts and politicians wondered whether the plan would be effective in drawing down the insurgency. Its most important features, first detailed in the June 17 issue of the Iraqi daily Mada, are designed to assuage continued Sunni Arab mistrust of the government. The moves would include the formation of national and provincial committees to negotiate amnesties; steps to demobilize militias and to prevent abuses by U.S.-led forces; and a review of laws purging from public life former members of the Baath Party, which ruled during deposed President Saddam Hussein's regime.

But the plan raised immediate doubts among the country's minority Sunni Arabs, who dominated Iraq under Hussein and now lead the insurgency. Many Sunni Muslims said the plan did not go far enough in heeding their demands, especially for the setting of a concrete timetable for the departure of U.S. troops, which many continue to call an occupying power.

"What do you want me to tell the honorable people? Not to hate the occupation?" said Sheik Ali Hatam Sulayman, a leader of the Albu Asaf tribe in the insurgent stronghold of Al Anbar province. "I can't. I'm sorry."

By diluting any language about a troop withdrawal, the proposal undermines itself, said Wamidh Nadhmi, a Baghdad political scientist sympathetic to the Sunni cause.

"If I were the resistance, I wouldn't talk with a government that depended on a foreign army," he said. "I would talk with the foreign army."

Some Iraqi critics also said the plan failed to address the changing nature of the violence, which they argue has turned more and more from a nationalist fight against U.S. occupation into a sectarian war waged between Arab-backed Sunni extremists and Iranian-backed Shiite militias.

"The whole thing is mixed up," said Sheik Ali Abdullah, leader of the Hamad Jasim, a branch of the Dulaymi tribe in Al Anbar. "We're giving Maliki a full opportunity, but we're sure this government will fail."

Past attempts at luring Sunnis into the political process also were touted as ways of reducing the insurgency, but failed. One analyst, who tracks violent groups in Iraq, said few of the groups engaged in killings and bombings have a toe in the political world, or desire to.

"The basic question is, are the groups that are going to take part in reconciliation really active parts of the insurgency?" said Hashim Hassani, a college professor at the University of Baghdad.

But Shiite Muslim politicians called the proposal an initial gesture meant to launch a dialogue among Iraq's disparate segments and not just to appease Sunnis or those tied to the insurgency.

"We do not submit it to Sunnis only but to all Iraqis," said Abbas Bayati, a widely respected lawmaker and scholar serving in Maliki's coalition. "It cannot solve all the problems at one time. But it addresses some of the problems."

Other Shiites characterized the plan as a way to call the insurgents' bluff, forcing disgruntled nationalists to distinguish themselves from the Islamic extremists or former Hussein loyalists who oppose the new Iraqi state. If some Sunnis continue to fight because they want the Americans out, here's an opening to push forth that agenda, said Fadhil Shara, another lawmaker in the Shiite coalition.

"Maybe some in the resistance want to reschedule the occupation," he said. "Let's talk. Let's establish a basis that will give the government an opportunity to distinguish between the resistance and the terrorists."

Though Maliki presented the plan to parliament, known as the Council of Representatives, his aides said he did not need lawmakers' approval to implement the measures, a position disputed by some legislators.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine




The White House welcomed the initiative, but did not comment on the amnesty proposal.





WTF???????????? :mad:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine




Though Maliki [Bush] presented the plan to parliament, [congress] known as the Council of Representatives, his aides [Snow] said he did not need lawmakers' approval to implement the measures, a position disputed by some legislators [Dems].


Gee, this is pretty familiar:rolleyes: