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FORD
06-30-2006, 07:49 PM
Fox & Friends co-host Kilmeade advocated "Office of Censorship" in wake of NY Times banking surveillance story

Summary: On June 29, several Fox News media figures suggested that the U.S. government should "put up the Office of Censorship" to screen news reports to determine whether they "hurt the country" or are of "news value," in the wake of a New York Times article disclosing a Treasury Department program designed to monitor international financial transactions.

On the June 29 broadcast of Fox News Radio's Brian & The Judge, co-host Brian Kilmeade, who also co-hosts Fox News' Fox & Friends, suggested that the U.S. government should "put up the Office of Censorship," in the wake of reports in The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and The Wall Street Journal detailing a Treasury Department program designed to monitor international financial transactions for terrorist activity. Similarly, during the June 29 edition of Fox & Friends, co-host E.D. Hill wondered if it would be appropriate for the U.S. government to create an "Office of Censorship." During an interview with Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ) about The New York Times report, Hill asserted that such an office could screen news reports to determine whether they "hurt the country" or are of "news value." The New York Times has been singled out for criticism by numerous conservative media figures, including many on the Fox News Channel, as Media Matters for America has documented.

Hayworth and Brian & The Judge co-host Andrew P. Napolitano both challenged the need for an "Office of Censorship," although Hayworth went on to characterize "those in journalism who have taken it upon themselves to become the arbitrators of what should be national security" as displaying a "nationally suicidal" reasoning.

From the June 29 broadcast of Fox News Radio's Brian & The Judge:

NAPOLITANO: The Japanese did learn that we broke their code, and so they started using a new code.

KILMEADE: And guess what? What would you rather have? The Japanese knowing that we broke their code or a decision saying that journalists are allowed to write anything they can or want to write because they think the public needs to know. See, I'm more into the ends justifying the means. And what they do is you can sunset this, Judge. The same way they have the Patriot Act sunsetted. You put up the Office of Censorship. You get a consensus to journalists to analyze and then you realize what FDR realized early. Winning is everything. Freedom is -- you don't have any freedom if the Nazis are the victors. You have no one to trade with if Western Europe falls. That's the reality. You're in love with the law, but I'm in love with survival.

NAPOLITANO: I'm in love with your freedom, and I want you and me all the people we work with --

KILMEADE: You can't have it both ways. You can't have it both ways.

NAPOLITANO: Of course, we can. We have it both ways now. We can say whatever we want and the government can't censor us and the government can still fight the war on terror. If we were to allow some office of the government to decide what journalists can say, that would be the same that the King of England imposed on newspapers in England and in the U.S. and that prompted the Revolution. It would be about the most un-American thing you can imagine. How can we fight a war to bring freedom to another country, to bring freedom of the press to another country when we're crushing freedom of the press here at home?

KILMEADE: Not crushing -- preserving our freedom by preserving our secrets because war is not a free thing. Intelligence is not something to be shared: It's to be coveted and used to our advantage. Here's what Roosevelt did. He appointed Byron Price, a respected journalist, to run the office. Price accepts the post on the condition that the media can voluntarily agree on a self-censorship. The Office employs 14,000, and they are civilians, to monitor cable, mail, and radio communications between the United States and other nations. The Office closes in 1945. Our nation still flies. The flag still soars.

NAPOLITANO: Scaring me to death, Brian, because I know they'd come after [Fox News host Bill] O'Reilly and me and you'd have to visit us in Gitmo.

KILMEADE: No, they wouldn't. You're not doing anything anti-American.

From the June 29 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: We've been talking over the last week about how The New York Times on Friday outed the super secret SWIFT (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication) program that tracked terrorists' financing. Well, our next guest wants to revoke The New York Times' Capitol Hill press credentials.

HILL: Arizona Congressman J.D. Hayworth joins us from Washington. Good to have you back with us.

HAYWORTH: Thanks, E.D., and good morning, Steve.

KILMEADE: Good morning.

[...]

HILL: What about -- in the past, we have had, at times, an Office of Censorship, where people review what is about -- is something that was -- it's going to be big, you've got to run it through and say, "OK. Does this hurt our country or is it of, you know, news value?

HAYWORTH: Well, E.D., I don't know that we need an office of Censorship. What we do need to rediscover, if you will, is a notion that I guess was borne out in World War II. Stephen Ambrose, the late biographer of Dwight Eisenhower, writes very eloquently of a situation prior to D-Day, when Ike called together the war correspondents in -- in England and said, "Fellas, just thought you ought to know, we're going to go in early June." And Ambrose, in that wonderful biography, says to a man, the war correspondents stopped writing, and one asked, "General, why did you tell us?" And Ike responded, "Because you're good Americans and I know you will not jeopardize the lives of fellow Americans."

We all need to rediscover that, especially those in journalism who have taken it upon themselves to become the arbiters of what should be national security and some who argue that no, they're really not so much citizens of the United States, now they are citizens of the world, neutral observers of the scene. That's a strange type of reasoning here and it's certainly -- I won't call it politically correct. I think it's nationally suicidal.

— R.M. & B.L.

Posted to the web on Thursday June 29, 2006 at 6:06 PM EST

Unchainme
06-30-2006, 07:52 PM
A cockroach in the concrete, courthouse tan and beady eyes.
A slouch with fallen arches, purging truths into great lies.
A little man with a big eraser, changing history
Procedures that he's programmed to, all he hears and sees.

Altering the facts and figures, events and every issue.
Make a person disappear, and no one will ever miss you.

Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was.
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws.
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules.
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools.

You say you've got the answers, well who asked you anyway?
Ever think maybe it was meant to be this way?
Don't try to fool us, we know the worst is yet to come.
I believe my kingdom will come.

Chorus
F is for fighting, R is for red,
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed.
E, we elect them, E, we eject them,
In the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
D, for your dying, O, your overture,
M, they will cover your grave with manure.
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me,
As long as there's a P.M.R.C.

F is for fighting, R is for red,
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed.
E, we elect them, E, we eject them,
In the land of the free and the home of the brave.
D, for your dying, O, your overture,
M is for money and you know what that cures.
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me,
As long as there's a P.M.R.C.

Put your hand right up my shirt,
Pull the strings that make me work,
Jaws will part, words fall out,
like a fish with hook in mouth.

Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was.
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws.
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules.
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools.

I'm not a fish
I'm a man


sorry reminded me of my Favorite Megadeth song.


this is some scary shit going on folks, Big Brother may already be watching you.

Nickdfresh
06-30-2006, 08:27 PM
Cracking Down On Terrorist Financing With Our International Partners. Over 400 individuals and entities have been designated pursuant to Executive Order 13224, resulting in nearly $150 million in frozen assets and millions more blocked in transit or seized at borders. We have built an international coalition that is applying more rigorous financial standards and controls to help prevent terrorists' use of the international financial system. Specifically, we have established with the Government of Saudi Arabia a Joint Task Force on Terrorism Finance that serves as a coordinating mechanism to cooperate on important terrorism-financing investigations.

From: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/homeland/index.html

LOL Yeah, the "International Coalition" is a big state secret....

diamondD
06-30-2006, 09:02 PM
Kilmeade is the same dweeb who thought the Stones should be banned from the Super Bowl. Fuck that pubic headed twit.

Cathedral
07-01-2006, 12:14 AM
I saw that this morning, he's a tool.
We don't need censorship, we need to prosecute the leakers.

Judge Napolitano shot his ass down when he said that, it was pretty funny, so funny i was late for an appointment.
I couldn't believe he called for censorship, haven't we given up enough liberty for the sake of false security?

Do you know, really truly know what security is?
it's taking your ass down to the gun shop and stocking up on weapons and ammo.
We are all on our own when it comes to security.
The government isn't gonna protect your family, it isn't their responsibility, it's our responsibility to protect our own families.

Security is nothing more than a lie being sold, or basically traded for our freedoms.

FUCK THAT!

Jerry H
07-01-2006, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Fox & Friends co-host Kilmeade advocated "Office of Censorship" in wake of NY Times banking surveillance story

Summary: On June 29, several Fox News media figures suggested that the U.S. government should "put up the Office of Censorship" to screen news reports to determine whether they "hurt the country" or are of "news value," in the wake of a New York Times article disclosing a Treasury Department program designed to monitor international financial transactions.

On the June 29 broadcast of Fox News Radio's Brian & The Judge, co-host Brian Kilmeade, who also co-hosts Fox News' Fox & Friends, suggested that the U.S. government should "put up the Office of Censorship," in the wake of reports in The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and The Wall Street Journal detailing a Treasury Department program designed to monitor international financial transactions for terrorist activity. Similarly, during the June 29 edition of Fox & Friends, co-host E.D. Hill wondered if it would be appropriate for the U.S. government to create an "Office of Censorship." During an interview with Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ) about The New York Times report, Hill asserted that such an office could screen news reports to determine whether they "hurt the country" or are of "news value." The New York Times has been singled out for criticism by numerous conservative media figures, including many on the Fox News Channel, as Media Matters for America has documented.

Hayworth and Brian & The Judge co-host Andrew P. Napolitano both challenged the need for an "Office of Censorship," although Hayworth went on to characterize "those in journalism who have taken it upon themselves to become the arbitrators of what should be national security" as displaying a "nationally suicidal" reasoning.

From the June 29 broadcast of Fox News Radio's Brian & The Judge:

NAPOLITANO: The Japanese did learn that we broke their code, and so they started using a new code.

KILMEADE: And guess what? What would you rather have? The Japanese knowing that we broke their code or a decision saying that journalists are allowed to write anything they can or want to write because they think the public needs to know. See, I'm more into the ends justifying the means. And what they do is you can sunset this, Judge. The same way they have the Patriot Act sunsetted. You put up the Office of Censorship. You get a consensus to journalists to analyze and then you realize what FDR realized early. Winning is everything. Freedom is -- you don't have any freedom if the Nazis are the victors. You have no one to trade with if Western Europe falls. That's the reality. You're in love with the law, but I'm in love with survival.

NAPOLITANO: I'm in love with your freedom, and I want you and me all the people we work with --

KILMEADE: You can't have it both ways. You can't have it both ways.

NAPOLITANO: Of course, we can. We have it both ways now. We can say whatever we want and the government can't censor us and the government can still fight the war on terror. If we were to allow some office of the government to decide what journalists can say, that would be the same that the King of England imposed on newspapers in England and in the U.S. and that prompted the Revolution. It would be about the most un-American thing you can imagine. How can we fight a war to bring freedom to another country, to bring freedom of the press to another country when we're crushing freedom of the press here at home?

KILMEADE: Not crushing -- preserving our freedom by preserving our secrets because war is not a free thing. Intelligence is not something to be shared: It's to be coveted and used to our advantage. Here's what Roosevelt did. He appointed Byron Price, a respected journalist, to run the office. Price accepts the post on the condition that the media can voluntarily agree on a self-censorship. The Office employs 14,000, and they are civilians, to monitor cable, mail, and radio communications between the United States and other nations. The Office closes in 1945. Our nation still flies. The flag still soars.

NAPOLITANO: Scaring me to death, Brian, because I know they'd come after [Fox News host Bill] O'Reilly and me and you'd have to visit us in Gitmo.

KILMEADE: No, they wouldn't. You're not doing anything anti-American.

From the June 29 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: We've been talking over the last week about how The New York Times on Friday outed the super secret SWIFT (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication) program that tracked terrorists' financing. Well, our next guest wants to revoke The New York Times' Capitol Hill press credentials.

HILL: Arizona Congressman J.D. Hayworth joins us from Washington. Good to have you back with us.

HAYWORTH: Thanks, E.D., and good morning, Steve.

KILMEADE: Good morning.

[...]

HILL: What about -- in the past, we have had, at times, an Office of Censorship, where people review what is about -- is something that was -- it's going to be big, you've got to run it through and say, "OK. Does this hurt our country or is it of, you know, news value?

HAYWORTH: Well, E.D., I don't know that we need an office of Censorship. What we do need to rediscover, if you will, is a notion that I guess was borne out in World War II. Stephen Ambrose, the late biographer of Dwight Eisenhower, writes very eloquently of a situation prior to D-Day, when Ike called together the war correspondents in -- in England and said, "Fellas, just thought you ought to know, we're going to go in early June." And Ambrose, in that wonderful biography, says to a man, the war correspondents stopped writing, and one asked, "General, why did you tell us?" And Ike responded, "Because you're good Americans and I know you will not jeopardize the lives of fellow Americans."

We all need to rediscover that, especially those in journalism who have taken it upon themselves to become the arbiters of what should be national security and some who argue that no, they're really not so much citizens of the United States, now they are citizens of the world, neutral observers of the scene. That's a strange type of reasoning here and it's certainly -- I won't call it politically correct. I think it's nationally suicidal.

— R.M. & B.L.

Posted to the web on Thursday June 29, 2006 at 6:06 PM EST

I saw some bullshit on FOX NEWS recently that certain Newspapers should be censored because they are a threat to National Security.

The fucking point right now is that the troops aren't coming home no time soon regardless of who is in office, man.

You should watch CNN to see how much of a mess things are.

GM are $20 billion in the hole and are now trying to have Nissan join them to reduce that to $17 billion, man.

:(

FORD
07-02-2006, 12:47 AM
1) Abolish NAFTA and all other so called "free trade" agreements.

2) Any US corporation which has their manufacturing base or their corporate headquarters outside the United States will be given 90 days to correct this problem. If the problems are not corrected within that time, the CEO's of those companies shall remain in prison until they are fixed. The charge will be treason.

3) Nobody currently employed in the executive branch of the Federal Government shall be eligible to ever run for, or be nominated to a government position for the remainder of their lives.

4) Anyone who wants to debate the constitutionality of the above can suck my ass while reading the "Patriot Act".

Jerry H
07-02-2006, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by FORD
1) Abolish NAFTA and all other so called "free trade" agreements.

2) Any US corporation which has their manufacturing base or their corporate headquarters outside the United States will be given 90 days to correct this problem. If the problems are not corrected within that time, the CEO's of those companies shall remain in prison until they are fixed. The charge will be treason.

3) Nobody currently employed in the executive branch of the Federal Government shall be eligible to ever run for, or be nominated to a government position for the remainder of their lives.

4) Anyone who wants to debate the constitutionality of the above can suck my ass while reading the "Patriot Act".


FORD.........You know "FUCK ALL".......

Bob is one, Bob is all

Cathedral
07-03-2006, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by FORD
1) Abolish NAFTA and all other so called "free trade" agreements.

2) Any US corporation which has their manufacturing base or their corporate headquarters outside the United States will be given 90 days to correct this problem. If the problems are not corrected within that time, the CEO's of those companies shall remain in prison until they are fixed. The charge will be treason.

3) Nobody currently employed in the executive branch of the Federal Government shall be eligible to ever run for, or be nominated to a government position for the remainder of their lives.

4) Anyone who wants to debate the constitutionality of the above can suck my ass while reading the "Patriot Act".

I totally agree with this 200%.

And Happy Birthday, Ford... ;)

blueturk
07-03-2006, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by FORD
1) Abolish NAFTA and all other so called "free trade" agreements...


You got that right. NAFTA kicked our ass down here....

bobgnote
07-03-2006, 07:00 PM
You cannot let that all censorshit happen, year after year~!

You all let the inflationary power deals run their bad-faith inflation, unreported, since their enactments, 2000-1.

I had my FAB Flying Squad thread removed to the dump, when it attempts to address this same problem, with a conference call.

When FOX get s away with their SHIT, year after year, you need to put some pressure on them.

If they go for STRIP FORENSICS, if Brian Kilmeade gobs a load, if I am the Challenger, we debate, I WIN, Kieron Chetry gets her shirt off.

Next screwup, she gets naked, or another article gets removed.

I'm a streaker with a good body, but a showbiz male-body double is OK with me, for contrast, to compete for the good of injured animals and humanity, with such designer airheads who attract Al Queda to blow up Kim Dozier (per Xena's companion, Gabrielle) and cut the head off Nic Berg (Nick Robertson, CNN), to MAKE MEDIA SUGGESTIONS! I challenge in good faith, to see Kim and Kieron, naked as hell. If their male 2-shot buddies goof, maybe it's intentional. We have to work THAT crap out. How the men pander to the women menas we need to cut their spin-damage, as they PIMP!

Bitches barf OUT, I challenge, FOX newsies loosen your bras, I bet, on my own forensic competence. Handicaps are available. I HATE undies. So if I lose an argument, I get hella nekkid, quicker. Crazy donnas who aren't grounded in reality but offer the TITS can wear enough for Alaska but STILL lose enough at gob, to GET NEKKID, eh!

THE CHALLENGE PROCESS must repair the false media markets, demfamed by coporate entities, including governments and churches, all at fraud, all for removal, for violating our laws, right on your watch.

Roth Army forums can help. Roth Army can get more AMERICAN, or get the foreign guys to smarten up, or the US has some hard talk, to GET RIGHT UP, and I volunteer. I hate the corrupt, their faggots, and their thieves, all the same people, anyway.

You don't have all those brands of trouble, without a conspriacy. Read my flames. The NEXT mc will not be so easy, with the warnings.

bobgnote
07-03-2006, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by diamondD
Kilmeade is the same dweeb who thought the Stones should be banned from the Super Bowl. Fuck that pubic headed twit.

Actually, the Rolling Stones are a dupe-ripoff. Football is a bit FIXED. Without the ripoffs getting around real particularly, the deja vu phenom might go off, and some other team might win.

You know, the Pats won with their ugly ACT.

The Steelers won because of STEALING. It's a pun-thing, with deja vu.

bobgnote
07-03-2006, 07:21 PM
The REAL danger is clear and ever-present, that FOX and the other corporate organized crime that does news on the side but claims this as primary occupation in great FRAUD shall evade all reviews, yet incite Al Queda AND Islam to attack particular media hubs, in 2008!

LA, Atlanta, DC, NYC, are DUE FOR Empire State Bldg.-type HazMat bomb-type ATTACKS, for the very unfair, titter-infested coverage, we need to use as an excuse to see some good old boobs OUT, buts swinging, ripe, fresh pussyfarts gathering with the show, which bases its spin on pure thinktank conjectures, contrived for fraud, inc.

Next move is to take out the WATER, to kick hazmats up into US-landfalls, of various cyclonic storms.

If things get THAT out of control, YOU DIE, mouths of the south.

bobgnote
07-03-2006, 07:27 PM
AND, I have a ripe situation, for FOX to turn over, if any of its corporate minions think earning money is better than retaining fake earnings.

I have a situation pokeatyou, jokeatitTWO, for FOX or any TV.

I am a hit. PAY ME NOW, or pay me later, OR GO OUT OF BUSINESS.