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Unchainme
07-04-2006, 05:37 PM
July 4, 2006 — North Korea launched three missiles today, including one believed to be the long-range Taepodong-2, which is believed to be capable of reaching U.S. soil, sources told ABC News.

The first two missiles launched appeared to be short- or mid-range missiles, but it appeared that the third — which broke up shortly after it launched — was a longer range missile, sources said.

White House spokesman Tony Snow said North Korea had launched three missiles, but he could not confirm whether the Taepodong-2 was among the weapons tested.

The launches of the first two missiles were detected by NORAD — the North American Aerospace Defense Command — sources told ABC News.

The first launch occurred around 2:30 p.m. ET, and the second came at around 3 p.m., the sources said.

Both of those launches were tracked and determined completely incapable of coming anywhere close to the United States, though one source told ABC News the government could not say where the missiles had landed.

A Japanese government official said North Korea seemed to launched three missiles, the first two a half-hour apart and the third coming an hour later, and all three landed in the Sea of Japan.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2153034

jcook11
07-04-2006, 06:09 PM
WE'RE ALL GONNA FUCKING DIE
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

blueturk
07-04-2006, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by jcook11
WE'RE ALL GONNA FUCKING DIE
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

No we're not! We got Saddam! That's all that matters!

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by frets5150
North Korea Test-Launches Multiple Missiles
By ERIC TALMADGE, AP
TOKYO (July 4) - A defiant North Korea test-fired a long-range missile Wednesday that may be capable of reaching America, but it failed seconds after launch, officials said. The North also tested five shorter range missiles in an exercise the White House called "provocative" but not an immediate threat.

Ignoring stern U.S. and Japanese warnings, the isolated communist nation carried out the audacious military tests even as the U.S. celebrated the Fourth of July and launched the space shuttle.

None of the missiles made it as far as Japan, all crashing into the Sea of Japan separating the island from the Korean Peninsula, officials said.

"We do consider it provocative behavior," U.S. National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said.

Both Japan and South Korea protested. Japan called for an emergency U.N. Security Council meeting. South Korea said the tests would further deepen its neighbor's international isolation.

"We will take stern measures," said chief Japanese government spokesman Shinzo Abe, adding that economic sanctions were a possibility. He said the launch violated a longstanding moratorium, and that Tokyo was not given prior notification by Pyongyang.

The U.S. administration reacted quickly but made it clear that its response would not involve military action.

President Bush consulted with Hadley, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. The State Department said Rice conferred with her counterparts from China, Japan, South Korea and Russia.

"It wasn't that he (the president) was surprised because we've seen this coming for a while," Hadley said. "I think his instinct is that this just shows the defiance of the international community by North Korea."

He said the long-range missile was the Taepodong-2, which failed 35 seconds after launch. Experts believe the missile - North Korea's most advanced with a range of up to 9,320 miles - could reach the United States with a light payload.

The State Department said the smaller missiles includes Scuds, which could target South Korea, and Rodongs, which has a range of about 620 miles and could target Japan.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported as many as 10 missiles may have been launched, but officials could not confirm that.

The launch came after weeks of speculation that the North was preparing to test the Taepodong-2 from a site on its northeast coast. U.S. and Japanese officials said six missiles were fired in all, launched over a four-hour period beginning about 3:30 a.m. Wednesday (2:30 p.m. Tuesday EDT).

Meanwhile, the North American Aerospace Defense Command - which monitors the skies for threats to North American security - went on heightened alert, said NORAD spokesman Michael Kucharek.

"The safety of our people and resources is our top priority," Kucharek said.

If the timing is correct, the North Korean missiles were launched within minutes of Tuesday's liftoff of Discovery, which blasted into orbit from Cape Canaveral in the first U.S. space shuttle launch in a year.

Hadley suggested the tests might have been an attempt to grab the international spotlight.

"It's very difficult to know what the North Koreans think they are doing this for," Hadley said. "Obviously, it is a bit of an effort to get attention, perhaps because so much attention has been focused on the Iranians."

North Korea's missile program is based on Scud technology provided by the former Soviet Union or Egypt, according to American and South Korean officials. North Korea started its Rodong-1 missile project in the late 1980s and test-fired the missile for the first time in 1993.

North Korea had observed a moratorium on long-range missile launches since 1999. It shocked the world in 1998 by firing a Taepodong missile over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean.

On Monday, the North's main news agency quoted an unidentified newspaper analyst as saying Pyongyang was prepared to answer a U.S. military attack with "a relentless annihilating strike and a nuclear war."

The Bush administration responded by saying while it had no intention of attacking, it was determined to protect the United States if North Korea launched a long-range missile.

On Monday, Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns warned North Korea against firing the missile and urged the communist country to return to six-nation talks on its nuclear program.

The six-party talks, suspended by North Korea, involved negotiations by the United States, China, South Korea, Japan and Russia with Pyongyang over the country's nuclear program.

The United States and its allies South Korea and Japan have taken quick steps over the past week to strengthen their missile defenses. Washington and Tokyo are working on a joint missile-defense shield, and South Korea is considering the purchase of American SM-2 defensive missiles for its destroyers.

The U.S. and North Korea have been in a standoff over Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program since 2002. The North claims to have produced nuclear weapons, but that claim has not been publicly verified by outside analysts.

While public information on North Korea's military capabilities is murky, experts doubt that the regime has managed to develop a nuclear warhead small enough to mount on its long-range missiles.

Nonetheless, Lt. Gen. Michael Maples, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told U.S. lawmakers last week that officials took the potential launch reports seriously and were looking at the full range of capabilities possessed by North Korea.

AP reporters Larry Margasak and Ann Gearan in Washington and Edith M. Lederer at the United Nations contributed to this report.


07/04/06 22:18 EDT

Big Train
07-05-2006, 01:58 AM
The thing fell out of the sky, as did the two Scuds..

Panamark
07-05-2006, 02:03 AM
Fuckers could probably reach us.. (Australia)

Panamark
07-05-2006, 02:04 AM
If they ever progress past rubber band launched missiles..

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 02:10 AM
Can't fathom a reason anyone would want to ever nuke Australia......




Except maybe revenge for those Crocodile Dundee movies.

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by jcook11
WE'RE ALL GONNA FUCKING DIE
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!



You first.:cool:

Big Train
07-05-2006, 02:14 AM
Economy must be getting really bad in Korea if Kim is cranking the Anti-America deal up to warp speed.

Panamark
07-05-2006, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Can't fathom a reason anyone would want to ever nuke Australia......



A lot of Muslims and Arabs dont like us anymore coz we
joined up with you guys...

Isnt PongPong (or whatever his fookin name is) a muslim ??

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 02:19 AM
Doubt Kim Jong Il is muslim, but I could be wrong.


Paul Hogan might be, though ;)

jcook11
07-05-2006, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You first.:cool:

You're really on tonight there Kobayashi ;)

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Panamark
A lot of Muslims and Arabs dont like us anymore coz we
joined up with you guys...




For the record.....by "you guys", you are refering to the fascist Neo-Con Administration that came into power via a coup in 2000, and has continued this Country's slide into hell.

A Majority of us Yanks are opposed to this administration and it's foreign policies.



:cool:

Panamark
07-05-2006, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
For the record.....by "you guys", you are refering to the fascist Neo-Con Administration that came into power via a coup in 2000, and has continued this Country's slide into hell.

A Majority of us Yanks are opposed to this administration and it's foreign policies.



:cool:

Im referring to the armies of people that gave a fuck about 9/11 ;)

jcook11
07-05-2006, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
For the record.....by "you guys", you are refering to the fascist Neo-Con Administration that came into power via a coup in 2000, and has continued this Country's slide into hell.

A Majority of us Yanks are opposed to this administration and it's foreign policies.



:cool:

"Bitterman party of one, your table is ready" :)

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by Panamark
Im referring to the armies of people that gave a fuck about 9/11 ;)


Ahh....

For a moment there I thought you were talking about Iraq ;)

Panamark
07-05-2006, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Doubt Kim Jong Il is muslim, but I could be wrong.


Paul Hogan might be, though ;)

Hey I was walking through his old workplace yesterday.
No Shit, we were on the lookout tower on the Sydney Harbour
Bridge. He used to be a rigger on the bridge.. Crazy Bastard !
Not a job for those who fear heights.

He's no Muslim. Im not even sure the dude's ever been in a
church..

Panamark
07-05-2006, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Ahh....

For a moment there I thought you were talking about Iraq ;)

No.. They should pull all our troops out of there now.
No doubt... Fookin crazy...

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 02:53 AM
Not to get off the topic of NK Crazies and their "Failure to Launch" fiasco.......but.......


This just in:


Australia's other war in Iraq
Richard Baker
July 3, 2006


The Howard Government used Australia's support for the US in Iraq as a bargaining chip to protect the multibillion-dollar wheat trade with Baghdad.

Documents seen by The Age detail how Australia privately feared the US would muscle in on Australia's dominant trading position with Saddam Hussein's regime.

They show that more than six months before the outbreak of war, Foreign Minister Alexander Downer suggested that military support for the US in Iraq would benefit Australia's commercial position. Once war had broken out, he was concerned that the US would use American deaths in battle as a justification for seizing Australia's wheat trade.

At a meeting in August 2002 in Mr Downer's Canberra office, Prime Minister John Howard, senior Government officials and executives from wheat exporter AWB discussed the outlook for Australia's sales after Saddam. These sales had been envied by the influential US wheat lobby for years.

Documents seen by The Age reveal that an idea was floated at the meeting whereby Australia would provide military support for the US on the condition its wheat trade with Iraq was protected. A Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade record of conversation shows Mr Downer suggested Australian support for the US would benefit "Australia's commercial position in Iraq" in the event of regime change.

In the lead-up to the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Australian Government tried desperately to strike a deal with the US. Documents show Mr Downer raised Australia's wheat trade with then US secretary of state Colin Powell at least three times. He also discussed it with his deputy, Richard Armitage.

In one dispatch a Foreign Affairs official reported Mr Downer telling Mr Powell words to the effect that the US could "forget Aussie support in future" if America flooded Iraq with wheat after the war.

Mr Downer stipulated that his request for Australia's Iraq sales to be protected be formally recorded in the minutes of his meetings with Mr Powell. Senior Australian embassy officials in Washington were instructed to press the wheat issue at every opportunity.

Once war began, wheat was never far from the Government's mind. On March 24, 2003, Mr Downer and senior AusAID officials met then AWB chief Andrew Lindberg at Parliament House to discuss the impact of war on wheat sales to Iraq.

A record of conversation shows Mr Downer's "prime concern" was the US concluding that "its sacrifices on the battlefield entitled its farmers to the Iraqi wheat market".

"He was sure the US well understood that Australians would go 'feral' if the US was seen to steal our wheat market, though he felt it unlikely that we could avoid losing a portion of it," the Foreign Affairs document records the minister as saying.

To limit the loss of market share to the US, Australia needed to demonstrate to the Iraqis that it was still the best country to serve its wheat needs, despite its declaration of war.

Mr Downer said it would be "extremely important symbolically" if Australian wheat was the first cargo unloaded in postwar Iraq. He said the Government had announced the provision of 100,000 tonnes of wheat for Iraq because the US planned to provide 500,000 tonnes.

"Mr Downer said he would be delighted if the first ship to enter Iraq in the wake of hostilities was carrying Australian wheat — particularly if it was escorted by HMAS Anzac," the note said.

Mr Lindberg said the US would not be able to ship wheat to Iraq for at least 25 days. AusAID deputy director-general Charles Spratt confirmed that rival agency USAID "had nothing in the pipeline".

But once hostilities ended and the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority tried to establish control, it appeared the Government's stomach for a wheat war was diminishing.

In early 2004, the AWB executive seconded to the CPA, Darryl Hockey, told the Government that US officials and wheat lobbyists were trying to persuade the Iraqis to change their wheat specifications to suit American grain and disadvantage Australia's product.

Mr Hockey advised Foreign Affairs official Zena Armstrong that unless a senior US representative on the CPA agreed to let the Iraqis decide the specifications and investigate the attempt to influence the Iraqis, Australia might "have to elevate this to the diplomatic level". The Government's response was to request a "level playing field".

In Iraq, it was becoming increasingly clear that the US was doing all it could to take over the wheat market. Foreign Affairs bureaucrat Lachlan Crews reported the "most heat" for investigations into the oil-for-food program, which was heavily corrupted by AWB, was coming from "Bush radicals and appointees".

Early this year, the Iraqi Government announced it would no longer deal with AWB. Trade Minister Mark Vaile led a mission to Baghdad and eventually Iraq bought some wheat from the Wheat Australia group. But it was at such a low price that AWB has refused to supply it with any more wheat.








We now bring you your regularly scheduled thread topic....

Panamark
07-05-2006, 03:01 AM
So you guys went after the oil, we went after the wheat ???

LOL.....

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by Panamark
So you guys went after the oil, we went after the wheat ???

LOL.....


And everyone got the Shaft.:cool:

LoungeMachine
07-05-2006, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine



Documents seen by The Age detail how Australia privately feared the US would muscle in on Australia's dominant trading position with Saddam Hussein's regime.

They show that more than six months before the outbreak of war, Foreign Minister Alexander Downer suggested that military support for the US in Iraq would benefit Australia's commercial position. Once war had broken out, he was concerned that the US would use American deaths in battle as a justification for seizing Australia's wheat trade.




Jeezuz:rolleyes:


Doesn't do much to shoot down the "war is business" argument, now does it?


Interesting that the Aussies were already calculating wheat futures in a war torn Iraq, 6 months before the war.

6 days before the war Bush himself was denying we were even going to war...:rolleyes:


Cunt you sell all this Aussie Wheat to NK in exchange for them not nuking you?

I like a good hum bow
;)

[ who here even knew the aussies were such wheat merchants?]

If their hops are any measure [Foster's sucks], it might not be very good wheat.:D

bobgnote
07-05-2006, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Panamark
So you guys went after the oil, we went after the wheat ???

LOL.....

Hella, HELLAH g'day.

The 10/1/05 Bali attack was directed at Aussies on holiday, to the GREEN DAY standard, to be awakened on THAT day, as a reminder of the historic, Pacific Theatre Playhouse event, MARIANAS TURKEY SHOOT, an American aviation thingy, for your pleasure, though meaty and bouncy, like meatballs everywhere and at the ripoff WHO show.

You have camels in your outback, US in your arse. Divest the US. Be thankful. Or be dead, by Thanksgiving, 2008.

This is my usual opionion. Xena and other Oz is good TV, keep it up.

Note Xena looks like Fox's Kim Gulifoyle, Bridget Quinn, and somebody banged up a bindle, down under, radiated it, and it was XENA. Note Lucy Liu Fu's Lawless suggests the SF Co. DA roots, of Mouseketeer Kim G, Fox News. Your Murdoch, our intrigue, his retained earnings, you get to smoke him OUT, when the time comes.

Or die like rats in a roast. You face modern cruise missiles, IEDS for now, but eventually tube and runway cruise missiles, OVER ISRAEL AND THE US AND UK, which you need to lead, since Canada is twits, now, selling us our natural gas and some of our drugs and hockey, like sucks, inc.

Leaves you in Oz, to make a play, or die in 2008-2013, like GW plans and Murdoch better not neglect.

I recommend a betting man's dilemma, for any Fox News persons, caught out of position. On challenge, the newsie gets her shirt off, for Chertoff, her PANTS OFF, if she cannot shut the hell up or him up.

The faggots keep putting my Fox threads et al in the dump, maybe you can get them to cut that out, leave 'em in FRONTLINE.

I address stuff like this, so we can committe issues, without faggots, or with them, if they do not act up. But US is faggots, you just got married to a female, I presume, so WHAT IN FUCKING HELL ARE YOU AUSSIES ALL BUGGERED UP WITH FAGGOT DOLLARS, FOR?

The NK missiles can hit you, so what, you are already in range of those, secretly in service, AROUND THE WORLD. What is liable to happen is the new cruise configurations will pop up, since the NK names, like Taepodong-2, will be interesting, when new US ordinance shows up, already in service, 2006, that was illegally configured as at least ONE smart bomb, already, that is destined as a general shape, that will rule the world, WITH OR WITHOUT THE UGLY USA.

With or without any FAGGOTS, who hang out. With or without GW Asshat, shave or NO shave. When any of the new shapes, ALREADY BUISTED IN AS TOYS OR OTHER ORDINANCE, you are dead, in Oz, for hanging out with the USA, just because you can fight AND DIE, like Catholics, which we have too many of in the USA AND in OZ.

Any questions? The sooner you tag out of the match and leave the auditorium (see Jun the JP-PM, Elvis impersonator? Ervis have reft the buirding!!) JP infrastructure will take funding, US and YOU can rot, since the white Catholic trash are cheating at media, here and there.

OR, you can get more po-right-on with something LEFT, basubaru-san.

Nukes and missiles are like BASEBALL. We have it, you have it, JP won the tourney, this year. Little bro has a toy. You say he shouldna? Do you BELIEVE you can take it, from him?

It was only a celebratory shot, the US needs to worry about, ONLY BECAUSE IT PORTENDS USE OF HAZMAT FIREWORKS, ON SOME FUTURE JULY 4TH ANTI-HOLIDAY, also the Battle of Hattin, 1187, if you are not too stupified to note the US may get knocked or nuked, in 2007, that day, 2008, even more likely!

jcook11
07-05-2006, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by bobgnote
Hella, HELLAH g'day.

The 10/1/05 Bali attack was directed at Aussies on holiday, to the GREEN DAY standard, to be awakened on THAT day, as a reminder of the historic, Pacific Theatre Playhouse event, MARIANAS TURKEY SHOOT, an American aviation thingy, for your pleasure, though meaty and bouncy, like meatballs everywhere and at the ripoff WHO show.

You have camels in your outback, US in your arse. Divest the US. Be thankful. Or be dead, by Thanksgiving, 2008.

This is my usual opionion. Xena and other Oz is good TV, keep it up.

Note Xena looks like Fox's Kim Gulifoyle, Bridget Quinn, and somebody banged up a bindle, down under, radiated it, and it was XENA. Note Lucy Liu Fu's Lawless suggests the SF Co. DA roots, of Mouseketeer Kim G, Fox News. Your Murdoch, our intrigue, his retained earnings, you get to smoke him OUT, when the time comes.

Or die like rats in a roast. You face modern cruise missiles, IEDS for now, but eventually tube and runway cruise missiles, OVER ISRAEL AND THE US AND UK, which you need to lead, since Canada is twits, now, selling us our natural gas and some of our drugs and hockey, like sucks, inc.

Leaves you in Oz, to make a play, or die in 2008-2013, like GW plans and Murdoch better not neglect.

I recommend a betting man's dilemma, for any Fox News persons, caught out of position. On challenge, the newsie gets her shirt off, for Chertoff, her PANTS OFF, if she cannot shut the hell up or him up.

The faggots keep putting my Fox threads et al in the dump, maybe you can get them to cut that out, leave 'em in FRONTLINE.

I address stuff like this, so we can committe issues, without faggots, or with them, if they do not act up. But US is faggots, you just got married to a female, I presume, so WHAT IN FUCKING HELL ARE YOU AUSSIES ALL BUGGERED UP WITH FAGGOT DOLLARS, FOR?

The NK missiles can hit you, so what, you are already in range of those, secretly in service, AROUND THE WORLD. What is liable to happen is the new cruise configurations will pop up, since the NK names, like Taepodong-2, will be interesting, when new US ordinance shows up, already in service, 2006, that was illegally configured as at least ONE smart bomb, already, that is destined as a general shape, that will rule the world, WITH OR WITHOUT THE UGLY USA.

With or without any FAGGOTS, who hang out. With or without GW Asshat, shave or NO shave. When any of the new shapes, ALREADY BUISTED IN AS TOYS OR OTHER ORDINANCE, you are dead, in Oz, for hanging out with the USA, just because you can fight AND DIE, like Catholics, which we have too many of in the USA AND in OZ.

Any questions? The sooner you tag out of the match and leave the auditorium (see Jun the JP-PM, Elvis impersonator? Ervis have reft the buirding!!) JP infrastructure will take funding, US and YOU can rot, since the white Catholic trash are cheating at media, here and there.

OR, you can get more po-right-on with something LEFT, basubaru-san.

Nukes and missiles are like BASEBALL. We have it, you have it, JP won the tourney, this year. Little bro has a toy. You say he shouldna? Do you BELIEVE you can take it, from him?

It was only a celebratory shot, the US needs to worry about, ONLY BECAUSE IT PORTENDS USE OF HAZMAT FIREWORKS, ON SOME FUTURE JULY 4TH ANTI-HOLIDAY, also the Battle of Hattin, 1187, if you are not too stupified to note the US may get knocked or nuked, in 2007, that day, 2008, even more likely!

Can you ever finish a thought without the words faggot or ******? Were you beaten as a child by a homosexual black person. You never pick on the spics gooks or kikes....how come?

Seshmeister
07-05-2006, 10:33 PM
Just like Iraq you have a basket case fuckup of a country now being set up as a threat to the US or the UK.

What a fucking joke. The missile didn't even fucking work and couldn't carry any nuke they might have.

It's all about FEAR FEAR FEAR.

Without the USSR we need to have bogeymen invented.

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Just like Iraq you have a basket case fuckup of a country now being set up as a threat to the US or the UK.

What a fucking joke. The missile didn't even fucking work and couldn't carry any nuke they might have.

It's all about FEAR FEAR FEAR.

Without the USSR we need to have bogeymen invented.

I'm not riddled with fear, are you?

The fact is that it took well over an hour for them to even say anything about it in the media...it would only take 45 minute's for a TP-2 to reach Chicago, if it worked that is.

So, why fear it?
Is fear gonna save anyone?

Nope

It does sound like a good time for the Serenity Prayer....but you're not the prayin' kind, eh Sesh.
Maybe you should be afraid in that case, huh?

Seshmeister
07-06-2006, 07:45 AM
The only people you need to worry about are the religious nuts.

North Korea aren't superstitious so aren't going to attack anyone.

It's called a nuclear deterent and worked just fine for 40 years.

thome
07-06-2006, 08:10 AM
Anyone know how to contact the United Nations are they not on this?
What's the UN , Take, on all this?
Oh wait, nevermind thier policy on real matters is to let GW and the US
make all the real -Hard -decisions and then blame GW when things
get tough or escalate .

Does every country in the world have a inalienable rite to -The Nuke-
just because they exist with soveriegnty.?

Should the UN be all up inside Korea on this matter.?

Full Bug
07-06-2006, 09:48 AM
:D
http://www.torontosun.com/Comment/Donato/2006/07/06/donato.jpg

frets5150
07-06-2006, 09:57 AM
North Korea Vows to Continue Missile Tests
Russia, China Oppose Sanctions at United Nations

SEOUL, South Korea (July 6) - North Korea on Thursday publicly acknowledged for the first time that it had tested missiles and vowed to continue launching them, threatening to "take stronger physical actions" against opponents of the tests.
The North Korean Foreign Ministry issued its statement through the state-run Korean Central News Agency one day after the country test-fired at least seven missiles, including an abortive launch of a long-range Taepodong-2. All the missiles apparently fell harmlessly into the Sea of Japan, but the launches drew international condemnation.

Japan, backed by the U.S. and Britain, circulated a U.N. Security Council resolution in New York on Wednesday that would ban any country from transferring funds, material and technology that could be used in North Korea's missile and weapons of mass destruction programs.

But North Korea said the missile launches were part of its military's regular drills to strengthen self-defense, and it had a legal right to carry them out.

"Our military will continue with missile launch drills in the future as part of efforts to strengthen self-defense deterrent. If anyone intends to dispute or add pressure about this, we will have to take stronger physical actions in other forms," the statement said, without elaborating.

Major South Korean newspapers reported Thursday that North Korea has three or four more missiles on launch pads ready to be fired. The North also barred people from sailing into some areas off the coast until July 11 in a possible sign of preparations for additional launches, said Chosun Ilbo, one of South Korea's largest dailies.

"There is a possibility that North Korea will fire additional missiles," South Korean Defense Minister Yoon Kwang-ung was quoted by the Yonhap news agency as telling lawmakers, citing images of equipment going in and out of the launch sites.

The missiles are either short- or medium-range, Chosun Ilbo reported. Japan said there were no immediate signs of another attempt to launch a long-range Taepodong-2 missile.

On Wednesday, splits emerged among the critics of the North's testing program.

China and Russia resisted Japan's attempt in the Security Council to impose sanctions against North Korea, saying only diplomacy could halt the isolated regime's nuclear and rocket development programs. China, the North's closest ally, and Russia, which has been trying to re-establish Soviet-era ties with Pyongyang, said they favor a weaker council statement without any threat of sanctions. Both countries hold veto power in the council, making sanctions unlikely.

China and Russia are clearly concerned that a U.N. demand for such measures would only delay a return to six-party talks aimed at persuading the country to abandon its nuclear program. China and Russia are part of the talks along with North and South Korea, the United States and Japan.

In a possible sign that Moscow's and Beijing's position may carry the day, President Bush addressed the issue in a subdued manner without the harsh warnings that he had issued as recently as last week when he said that a missile launch would be unacceptable.

Bush said Wednesday that the failure of North Korea's long-range missile test does not lessen the need to push the communist regime to give up its nuclear weapons program.

Bush spoke by phone to Japan's Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi and they agreed to cooperate in pushing for a U.N. resolution to impose sanctions on North Korea, officials said. The president also spoke to South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun and they agreed to cooperate on diplomacy, a South Korean official said.

"One thing we have learned is that the rocket didn't stay up for very long," Bush said about the Taepodong-2 missile that failed 42 seconds after liftoff Tuesday. "It tumbled into the sea."

"It doesn't diminish my desire to solve this problem," he said in Washington.

In its statement, the North Korean Foreign Ministry said the launches were unrelated to the six-party talks, and that Pyongyang was still committed to the peaceful denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. The statement accused the U.S. of being hostile to the communist regime, and blamed Washington for blocking progress at the talks with its financial restrictions.

"Under these conditions, it is clear to every one that there is no need for us to hold off on missile launches," it said.

The failure of the Taepodong-2 missile - the object of intense international attention for more than a month - suggested a catastrophic failure of the rocket's first, or booster, stage. A working version of the intercontinental missile could potentially reach the United States with a light payload. The North also fired six shorter-range missiles on Wednesday

Tokyo responded swiftly by barring North Korean officials from traveling to Japan, and banned one of its trading boats from entering Japanese waters for six months.

In South Korea, separated from the North by the world's most heavily armed border, officials said the tests would affect inter-Korean initiatives such as the dispatch of food and fertilizer from the South to the North, but stressed that diplomacy was the best way to solve the crisis.

Lee Jong-seok told the National Assembly in a hearing Thursday that Cabinet-level meetings between the two Koreas scheduled for next week should go ahead, and that Seoul would press ahead with cross-border projects with North Korea.

Both Japan and South Korea are within range of North Korean missiles.

The Security Council held an emergency session at Japan's request, and council experts met late Wednesday for about 1{ hours to discuss the draft resolution. Experts will meet again Thursday morning and council ambassadors may then meet in the afternoon to review progress, the diplomats said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the session was closed.

The draft resolution proposed by Japan and obtained by The Associated Press would condemn North Korea's ballistic missile launches and deplore its role as "the world's leading proliferator of ballistic missiles and related technology." It would demand that Pyongyang immediately halt "the development, testing, deployment and proliferation of ballistic missiles and reconfirm its moratorium on missile launching."

If approved, the council would strongly urge North Korea to return immediately to the six-party talks "without precondition" and stop all nuclear-related activities with the aim of completely dismantling its nuclear programs, including both plutonium reprocessing and uranium enrichment.

China's U.N. Ambassador Wang Guangya and Russia's U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin both noted that after North Korea shocked Japan in August 1998 by blasting a Taepodong-1 missile over its territory and into the Pacific Ocean, the Security Council reacted merely with a press statement.

Japan's U.N. Ambassador Kenzo Oshima called Wednesday's launches "far more serious."

North Korea's "possible combination of nuclear weapons with missile development and testing" is unacceptable and requires "quick, strong action" by the Security Council, he said.

Churkin said that while "a strong and clear message is needed to North Korea," the goal should be a resumption of six-party talks, which have been suspended since last September, and a diplomatic solution.

U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said the council must send a "strong and unanimous signal" that North Korea's missile test-launch was unacceptable.

The initial council discussion "was very interesting because no member defended what the North Koreans have done," he said. "I think there is support for sending a clear signal to Pyongyang."

Associated Press Writer Edith M. Lederer contributed to this report from the United Nations.


AP-NY-07-06-06 0303EDT

Yeah that Saddam was a real threat

DEMON CUNT
07-06-2006, 02:38 PM
More results of the Bush Administration's foreign policies! If you voted for Bush YOU VOTED FOR THIS!

While the US spends MILLION$ in Iraq this crazy fucker has been building weapons of mass destruction.

Meanwhile neocons still unable to recognize irony in any form.

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00226/Kim_Jong_Il_226574s.jpg
Thank you Mr. Bush!

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
The only people you need to worry about are the religious nuts.

North Korea aren't superstitious so aren't going to attack anyone.

It's called a nuclear deterent and worked just fine for 40 years.

Or any nut for that matter, oh, much like Kim Jong Il as a matter of fact.
Truth is, Sesh, that North Korea has always been a closed society...so there actually is no way of guaging whether they are superstitious or not. And the civillian population knows only what they are allowed to know.

Right now they are just making noise, putting on a show...but what if they don't get what they want?
I'm assuming you're a father now and have learned at this point what a tantrum is all about when the Lil' Sesh doesn't get its way.

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
More results of the Bush Administration's foreign policies! If you voted for Bush YOU VOTED FOR THIS!

While the US spends MILLION$ in Iraq this crazy fucker has been building weapons of mass destruction.

Meanwhile neocons still unable to recognize irony in any form.

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00226/Kim_Jong_Il_226574s.jpg
Thank you Mr. Bush!

BULLSHIT!!!!

Anyone who has voted in America since WWII voted for this. America's Foreign Policy has always been fucked up, you can't lay 60 years of failed policy at the feet of one Administration unless you have a really good pair of blinder's on.

FYI: North Korea has been working on a Nuke program since Clinton was in office, which was what, the mid 90's?

I've seen enough Independant films from over there to know what i'm talking about.
The whole reason we have a problem with muslims stems from decades of American Foreign Policy in the Middle East, and our association with Isreal.

If you believe anything else then it's time to remove the blinder's.

I can't stand Bush, but i know enough history to know that the problem is American Foreign Policy as a whole, NOT just a Conservative Foreign Policy as some Democrat's would like people to believe.

But, it is an election year, so whatever gets the votes, eh?

DEMON CUNT
07-06-2006, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
...

I can't stand Bush, but i know enough history to know that the problem is American Foreign Policy as a whole, NOT just a Conservative Foreign Policy as some Democrat's would like people to believe.

...

http://www.tvnewslies.org/assets/images/Condoleezza-Rice.jpg

MMM, that's some delicious Kondoleezza Kool Aid!

Bonus points for scapegoating Clinton!

Seshmeister
07-06-2006, 03:57 PM
http://mushroom.nosox.org/b3ta/midterm.jpg

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
http://www.tvnewslies.org/assets/images/Condoleezza-Rice.jpg

MMM, that's some delicious Kondoleezza Kool Aid!

Bonus points for scapegoating Clinton!

Scapegoating?
Tell me, Demon Cunt, when did the North Korean's begin their Nuke Program?
When did they launch their first test missile, Demon Cunt?

I'm not scapegoating a damn thing, that would be you thinking that every problem began in 2000.

Let's put it this way, our foreign policy has been flawed since we dropped Fat Man and Little Boy on Japan.

And in that time not one Democrat OR Republican has done anything to alter the World Police mentallity of our government.

Somebody best be checking what's in their cup, but it isn't me.

ELVIS
07-06-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
If you voted for Bush YOU VOTED FOR THIS!



yeah, ok...:rolleyes:

Seshmeister
07-06-2006, 04:17 PM
World police bullshit.

The mentality has been a backdoor empire by bullying weaker countries to gain economic advantages.

Seshmeister
07-06-2006, 04:19 PM
THe US has troops in over 100 countries to help 'police' them in whose interests exactly?

FORD
07-06-2006, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
BULLSHIT!!!!

Anyone who has voted in America since WWII voted for this. America's Foreign Policy has always been fucked up, you can't lay 60 years of failed policy at the feet of one Administration unless you have a really good pair of blinder's on.

But when it's been the SAME administration for more than half of those 60 years, you sure as Hell can. Remember that every Republican administration since WWII has been, basically the same gang of criminals. And they always return to the same failed policies regardless of what happenned in the years since their last occupation of the White House.


FYI: North Korea has been working on a Nuke program since Clinton was in office, which was what, the mid 90's?

Actually, they stopped working on their program during the Clinton administration. They only started it up again AFTER Chimpy declared them to be part of the Imaginary Axis of Evildoers. With a reactor they bought from Donald Rumsfeld, I might add.


I've seen enough Independant films from over there to know what i'm talking about.
The whole reason we have a problem with muslims stems from decades of American Foreign Policy in the Middle East, and our association with Isreal.

If you believe anything else then it's time to remove the blinder's.

Ummm, OK..... but what does that have to do with North Korea?? :confused:


I can't stand Bush, but i know enough history to know that the problem is American Foreign Policy as a whole, NOT just a Conservative Foreign Policy as some Democrat's would like people to believe.

But, it is an election year, so whatever gets the votes, eh?

As I said, when the BCE has spent more time in the White House than anyone, then they must take their share of the blame. And even when they were NOT in the White House, the CIA which they founded and controlled was deliberately fucking things up in the Middle East.

Carter can point to a genuine success in the Middle East. He got Egypt and Israel to stop fighting and start talking. And while they aren't the best of friends, the Camp David accords have held up to this day. Clinton was on a similar successful path with Israeli PM Rabin and PLO's Arafat, before the Likud extremists had Rabin murdered because THEY do not want peace or a Palestinian state.

So the Democrats have, in fact, been considerably more successful in the Middle East than the BCE Republicans have.

It's too bad these facts weren't posted in every polling place in America on November 2, 2004.

jcook11
07-06-2006, 04:39 PM
We're overfthrowing the government and putting a democrat in the white house at midnight.....Pass it on

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
THe US has troops in over 100 countries to help 'police' them in whose interests exactly?

I don't know how the police operate in your neck of the woods, Sesh.
Here? they are hardly anything more than corrupt. self serving, not to mention vile deviant bastards...just not all of them.
LOL, they're like mini Washington's in many ways.

That's my opinion of my local law enforcement officials. they'll sleep with your wife, eat your food, drink your beer...and i can't have people drinking my beer.

I don't trust them, and referring to our foreign policy as policing the world pretty much means that they serve their own interests, and i don't trust them either.

Soldiers follow orders.

It's beyond time for both (R) and (D) to take a number and a seat in the back of the room.
Neither platform suits MY interests.

BigBadBrian
07-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by FORD


Actually, they stopped working on their program during the Clinton administration. They only started it up again AFTER Chimpy declared them to be part of the Imaginary Axis of Evildoers.

Bullshit.

:gulp:

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by FORD
But when it's been the SAME administration for more than half of those 60 years, you sure as Hell can. Remember that every Republican administration since WWII has been, basically the same gang of criminals. And they always return to the same failed policies regardless of what happenned in the years since their last occupation of the White House.



Actually, they stopped working on their program during the Clinton administration. They only started it up again AFTER Chimpy declared them to be part of the Imaginary Axis of Evildoers. With a reactor they bought from Donald Rumsfeld, I might add.



Ummm, OK..... but what does that have to do with North Korea?? :confused:



As I said, when the BCE has spent more time in the White House than anyone, then they must take their share of the blame. And even when they were NOT in the White House, the CIA which they founded and controlled was deliberately fucking things up in the Middle East.

Carter can point to a genuine success in the Middle East. He got Egypt and Israel to stop fighting and start talking. And while they aren't the best of friends, the Camp David accords have held up to this day. Clinton was on a similar successful path with Israeli PM Rabin and PLO's Arafat, before the Likud extremists had Rabin murdered because THEY do not want peace or a Palestinian state.

So the Democrats have, in fact, been considerably more successful in the Middle East than the BCE Republicans have.

It's too bad these facts weren't posted in every polling place in America on November 2, 2004.


When was the first missile test again?

It reads nice, but you have to believe in a BCE for all of it to fit together...and i don't believe.

I'll agree with about 40% of your post.

I think that every President in the last century was corrupt in one way or another, party affiliation has shit to do with it also...since the creation of the career politician it became a money game and the quest for POWER...the people be damned.
You don't leave that office without blood on your hands.
How much though?, that's the question.

It just doesn't have anything to do with the party when you see through the bullshit. it's money and power, period.
Your guys want it, their guys want it, everybody wants it...they just like to be card carrier's because it attracts support to be a part of something no matter how fucked up and full of flaws it is.

This country needs an enema!

Warham
07-06-2006, 05:01 PM
FORD, it sounds like you were watching FOX & FRIENDS this morning when Kilmeade was interviewing some hag from Madelyn Albright's group.

She says:

North Korea started up their program during Bush the elders term, then they miraculously halted everything when Clinton took office, because he was the 2nd coming of Jesus, then when Bush the younger took office, they fired up their program again.

Mmm hmmm.

Seshmeister
07-06-2006, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
That's my opinion of my local law enforcement officials. they'll sleep with your wife, eat your food, drink your beer...and i can't have people drinking my beer.



:D

Coyote
07-06-2006, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
Is fear gonna save anyone?

Well... No.

But it'll enable the concentration of power to a handful of people.
(Quite quickly too, if done right)

Unchainme
07-06-2006, 08:29 PM
Yes lets do the blame game.

Well Clinton did this...

Well Bush Did this....

What the hell is that going to fucking solve? We're going to be fucked If we do this type of stupid bickering.

Come on folks theres got to be some way we can shut this Dog and Cat eating motherfucker up. (Wanted to be prejudice for a sec, heh, heh.)

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Coyote
Well... No.

But it'll enable the concentration of power to a handful of people.
(Quite quickly too, if done right)

Unfortunately, you're right...

Cathedral
07-06-2006, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Unchainme
Yes lets do the blame game.

Well Clinton did this...

Well Bush Did this....

What the hell is that going to fucking solve? We're going to be fucked If we do this type of stupid bickering.

Come on folks theres got to be some way we can shut this Dog and Cat eating motherfucker up. (Wanted to be prejudice for a sec, heh, heh.)

My sentiments exactly.
I've been out of the loop for awhile but haven't, know what i mean?

Same as it ever was...

Seshmeister
07-06-2006, 09:16 PM
People are fucking dumb.

For example why is it Jimmy Carter's fault that a couple of helicopters broke down in the desert and then another couple crashed into each other during the Tehran Embassy hostage rescue?

I don't know much about the US domestic policies of the late 70s but there you go this is the typical bullshit that goes on with this commander in chief thing. If that mission which he was told by the US military they could handle had worked I bet he would have been re-elected.

Same thing with the Falklands war with Thatcher except the other way around.

Her approval ratings are down in the 30s she's fucked for getting re-elected and then by sacrificing a few hundred British soldiers to win back a rock with some sheep on it she wins the election by a mile.

It's ludicrous. As a side note on that little war the Argentine military dictators were nasty murdering cunts much like Saddam but as usual for South America the US were propping them up and so decided to appear neutral. The world policeman on the take.

Cathedral is right about US foreign policy it's party neutral. How many 'Democrats' voted for the 'Patriot Act'?

Our 'opposition' party was for the war in Iraq too whilst millions were n the streets protesting. And that's when we thought they had WMDs.

It's all bullshit.

Democracy, gimme a fucking break.

Cheers!

:gulp:

Seshmeister
07-06-2006, 09:19 PM
On related news Blair has just approved a state funeral for Thatcher when she dies. This is the woman that branded Nelson Mandela a terrorist.

Personally I'll be trying to organise a street party...

DEMON CUNT
07-06-2006, 09:24 PM
This thread highlights one of the main ways neocons argue against any criticism of Bush. But Clinton...but Clinton...but Clinton...

It's a redirection technique that they have been taught by certain conservative media outlets.

You will notice that the Army neocons often regurgitate the typical Republican Clinton based talking points.

Dummies!

thome
07-06-2006, 09:25 PM
I want Bobby B naughty to design a post with this as the theory of the
explanation of the truth.

Blame everyone except the creator of the instigation.....

Unchainme
07-06-2006, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
This thread highlights one of the main ways neocons argue against any criticism of Bush. But Clinton...but Clinton...but Clinton...

It's a redirection technique that they have been taught by certain conservative media outlets.

You will notice that the Army neocons often regurgitate the typical Republican Clinton based talking points.

Dummies!

See this is what its all about right now.

Ignore the fact that we're in a fucking war, Ignore the fact that country is in the shitter. Ignore the fact that Korea going to nuke us to bits.

Lets blame the other Libs or NeoCons for everything, rather than trying to FIX THE PROBLEM. Both parties are equally guilty of this no matter which way you fucking spin it to me. It's always the libs and Neocons arguing about Gay Fucking marriage, WHILE THEY ARE MORE IMPORTANT FUCKING THINGS TO FUCKING WORRIED ABOUT.

Thats what will lead to our nations downfall, nots some stupidass hick from hick, The inability OF BOTH PARTY'S. To Act, and just continually relay the blame game.

DEMON CUNT
07-06-2006, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Unchainme
See this is what its all about right now.

Ignore the fact that we're in a fucking war, Ignore the fact that country is in the shitter. Ignore the fact that Korea going to nuke us to bits.

...

You must be some kinda super genius.

Unchainme
07-06-2006, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
You must be some kinda super genius.

:rolleyes:

Unchainme
07-06-2006, 10:18 PM
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Lewis Black pretty much sums up my thinking. Yes lets focus on Gay Marriage instead of the fucking war, or the Education system.

I think both parties are pretty fucked up in their thinking, In that either way we are fucked.

jcook11
07-06-2006, 10:26 PM
In '08 VOTE 'GNOTE!

Unchainme
07-06-2006, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by jcook11
In '08 VOTE 'GNOTE!

LMAO!

Warham
07-07-2006, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
More results of the Bush Administration's foreign policies! If you voted for Bush YOU VOTED FOR THIS!

While the US spends MILLION$ in Iraq this crazy fucker has been building weapons of mass destruction.

Meanwhile neocons still unable to recognize irony in any form.

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00226/Kim_Jong_Il_226574s.jpg
Thank you Mr. Bush!

:rolleyes: Off your medication again?

DEMON CUNT
07-07-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Warham
:rolleyes: Off your medication again?

Actually I have been paying attention.

If, after four years of the Bush Administration diplomatic failures, you voted for him again in '04- you voted for further failures.

Their arrogant and ignorant foreign policies lead to events such as the China/spy plane incident, the 911 attacks and now North Korean Nukes. With even more failures to come, just watch and remember that you voted for this. Take responsibility for the politicians that you support.

Warham
07-07-2006, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Actually I have been paying attention.

If, after four years of the Bush Administration diplomatic failures, you voted for him again in '04- you voted for further failures.

Their arrogant and ignorant foreign policies lead to events such as the China/spy plane incident, the 911 attacks and now North Korean Nukes. With even more failures to come, just watch and remember that you voted for this. Take responsibility for the politicians that you support.

More liberal nonsense spewing forth from your mouth.

DEMON CUNT
07-07-2006, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Warham
More liberal nonsense spewing forth from your mouth.

Typical republican denial from yours.

Warham
07-07-2006, 04:36 PM
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9708/05/korea.talks/clinton.kim.jpg

Looks like all this schmoozing didn't do any good.

DEMON CUNT
07-07-2006, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Warham
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9708/05/korea.talks/clinton.kim.jpg

Looks like all this schmoozing didn't do any good.

Nice try.

That was 10 years ago, dummy. Someone else has been in charge for the last 6 of those 10.

Warham
07-07-2006, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Nice try.

That was 10 years ago, dummy. Someone else has been in charge for the last 6 of those 10.

Oh, that's right.

North Korea stopped ALL weapons development between inauguration day 1992 and inauguration day, 2001.

My mistake.

Warham
07-07-2006, 04:58 PM
I'm sure Lil' Kim slept in the Lincoln bedroom at least once during the 90's.

DEMON CUNT
07-07-2006, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Oh, that's right.

North Korea stopped ALL weapons development between inauguration day 1992 and inauguration day, 2001.

My mistake.

I never said that.

This response is a good example of how you neocons try to direct responsibility for current events back to Clinton so you can give Bush a pass.

Are you in denial of Bush's diplomatic policy towards North Korea (Axis of Evil) and many other countries? Did Hannity forget to explain this to you?

Warham
07-07-2006, 05:08 PM
His diplomatic policy has been to get North Korea to sit down in multilateral talks, which North Korea doesn't want to get involved in, and neither do China or Russia for that matter.

They want North Korea to have nuclear warheads.

This is the problem with you libs. You blame Bush for EVERYTHING, including the hurricane that wiped out New Orleans, and fail to see the bigger picture.

Then you wonder why I redirect you back to your favorite president.

And as far as Hannity, I don't listen to him. He kind of annoys me a little. Something about his voice.

DEMON CUNT
07-07-2006, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Warham
His diplomatic policy has been to get North Korea to sit down in multilateral talks, which North Korea doesn't want to get involved in, and neither do China or Russia for that matter.

They want North Korea to have nuclear warheads.

This is the problem with you libs. You blame Bush for EVERYTHING, including the hurricane that wiped out New Orleans, and fail to see the bigger picture.

Then you wonder why I redirect you back to your favorite president.

And as far as Hannity, I don't listen to him. He kind of annoys me a little. Something about his voice.

Nice try. How successful has this so-called policy been? It has failed 100%! His policies continue to fail.

Bush didn't make the hurricane, silly. He just put FEMA in a position where it was unable to respond appropriately. "You are doing a heckuva job, Brownie."

You sure have Hannity's talking points down! You are hearing this bullshit from somewhere. I think you are lying about that too.

Cathedral
07-08-2006, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Nice try.

That was 10 years ago, dummy. Someone else has been in charge for the last 6 of those 10.

Um, Clinton made a deal with them, a deal THEY (North Koreans) never kept their end of but, they sure got what they wanted from us.
and it was 12 years ago, not 10, thank you...

It isn't about deflecting the blame to your super boy-toy, Bill Clinton, no, not at all.
What it's about is seeing the reality of what's actually going on out there.
And it has been going on for decades, supported by both major american party's.

You're no better than a neo-con, though you probably dress better and drive a BMW.

blueturk
07-08-2006, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by Warham
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9708/05/korea.talks/clinton.kim.jpg

Looks like all this schmoozing didn't do any good.

Sometimes I wonder if Warham has a Bill Clinton blow-up doll in his closet, and a Monica Lewinsky outfit for himself...

DEMON CUNT
07-08-2006, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Cathedral
Um, Clinton made a deal with them, a deal THEY (North Koreans) never kept their end of but, they sure got what they wanted from us.
and it was 12 years ago, not 10, thank you...

It isn't about deflecting the blame to your super boy-toy, Bill Clinton, no, not at all.
What it's about is seeing the reality of what's actually going on out there.
And it has been going on for decades, supported by both major american party's.

You're no better than a neo-con, though you probably dress better and drive a BMW.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fall all over yourself until you feel as though I have been adequately corrected. (...you offer very little to back yourself up with...)

So we have blamed everyone for this crisis. What now Switzerland?

Ha, no BMW here just a bird shit covered Toyota.

LoungeMachine
07-08-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by blueturk
Sometimes I wonder if Warham has a Bill Clinton blow-up doll in his closet, and a Monica Lewinsky outfit for himself...


LMMFAO

WarBOT in a blue dress.


The neo-con humidor:D

Nickdfresh
07-08-2006, 10:51 AM
http://www.scottclissold.com/3D/INT/Images/kimjong.jpg
"Fear me bitches."

Nickdfresh
07-08-2006, 01:32 PM
U.S. deploys missile destroyer to Japan
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/08/us.destroyer.ap/story.mustin.file.navy.jpg
TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- A new top-of-the-line U.S. guided missile destroyer was deployed to Japan on Saturday, amid tensions over North Korea's missile tests.

The USS Mustin sailed into the port of Yokosuka, home to the Navy's 7th Fleet, with a crew of 300 for permanent assignment to the region, 7th Fleet spokeswoman Hanako Tomizuka said.

The Mustin, commissioned in 2003, is one of the most advanced in the fleet.

Its deployment to Yokosuka was previously planned and not in response to North Korea's missile tests, Tomizuka said.

Pyongyang stunned the region on Wednesday by test-firing seven missiles.

In August, Yokosuka will also welcome the USS Shiloh, which last month demonstrated its ability to shoot down missile warheads in a landmark test off the coast of Hawaii.

Both the Mustin and the Shiloh are equipped with radar systems that employ so-called Aegis technology, which is geared toward tracking and shooting down enemy missiles.

The system was instrumental in identifying and assessing Wednesday's missile launchings, which all fell apparently harmlessly into the Sea of Japan.

The U.S. Navy now has eight Aegis-equipped vessels at Yokosuka.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.



Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/08/us.destroyer.ap/index.html

Cathedral
07-08-2006, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fall all over yourself until you feel as though I have been adequately corrected. (...you offer very little to back yourself up with...)

So we have blamed everyone for this crisis. What now Switzerland?

Ha, no BMW here just a bird shit covered Toyota.

I'm not trying to correct you at all, you do make valid points.
It's just that you are walking with blinders on and the road is actually much wider than what you see.

What i have to back it up is 60 years of failed foreign policy by the GOVERNMENT as whole.

One side has never been any better than the other because they both end up leaving at least 50% of the people unrepresented.
So it isn't about blame, that does no good...it's about changing the standards in american politics before it's too late.

You can worry, bitch, kick, and scream, about yesterday until the cows come home but it won't change a thing for tomorrow.

Dvided we fall, and we're falling like a rock.

DEMON CUNT
07-08-2006, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Cathedral
I'm not trying to correct you at all, you do make valid points.
It's just that you are walking with blinders on and the road is actually much wider than what you see.

What i have to back it up is 60 years of failed foreign policy by the GOVERNMENT as whole.

One side has never been any better than the other because they both end up leaving at least 50% of the people unrepresented.
So it isn't about blame, that does no good...it's about changing the standards in american politics before it's too late.

You can worry, bitch, kick, and scream, about yesterday until the cows come home but it won't change a thing for tomorrow.

Dvided we fall, and we're falling like a rock.

My goal is to enlighten my fellow Americans as to what I see as the truth. And I do my best to offer some information that supports my opinion.

You may not agree with the way that I present my arguments and that's just fine. The best discussions offer more than one view.

I'd love it if you would put these issues in more of a historical context. Put that 60 years of history where your mouth is.

I need to spend my energy focusing on today and what is challenging us right now.

I too feel that we are sinking.

Warham
07-09-2006, 12:19 PM
The glass is always half-empty, isn't it?

DEMON CUNT
07-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Warham
The glass is always half-empty, isn't it?

What's in the glass? Blood of dead American soldiers? Or Sean Hannity's piss?