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FORD
07-13-2006, 10:32 PM
Too bad it wasn't that fucking asshole Kilmeade over there, WITHOUT a flak jacket....


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Partial transcript:

FOX HOST: Palestinian Prime Minister, Mahmoud Abbas, says, "Israeli's incursion into Lebanon could start a regional war." We got David Lee Miller there, live, in central Gaza. David Lee, I see you have your flak jacket on. What's happening?

DAVID LEE MILLER: Right now, Brian, fortunately, not a great deal. We're on the outskirts of Abala[sic] but yesterday at this very location -- in the city here -- some 12 Palestinians were killed. At least half of them, according to local sources, were militants. One of them was also a policeman and this is normally a very busy roadway. This is Sala Adini[sic] street. This is the main artery that cuts through the Gaza strip. It goes from the very bottom to the very top of the script. As you can see for yourself, it is a ghost town at this hour. Not a single car is on this road. The reason for that, the Israelis have effectively now, they have cut Gaza in half. There is a strong Israeli presence here. This is the first time that there Israeli troops in Gaza since the withdrawal last summer. And just over my shoulder, off in the distance -- you can't see it in camera range -- there are Israeli tanks. There are Israeli tanks and there has been some military activity from shelling and for that reason, as you point out, we are wearing the flak jackets.

[..]

MILLER: ...and despite this action in Gaza City, targeting the Foreign Ministry building that is all but gutted at this hour, militants in Gaza today did continue to launch rockets from the northern part of the strip, over the border into nearby Israeli towns and... whoa! We just go fired at. That's the end of this [broadcast], I think. I don't know if you guys can still hear us.

HOST: Go... Do what you need to do.

MILLER: I guess we're still on the satellite here.

HOST: David, do what you need to do to be...

MILLER: someone... fire at us.

HOST: Where... Where...

MILLER: Yes?

HOST: [unintelligible]

MILLER: You see the camera shot don't you guys?

HOST: Right. Get into a safe place.

MILLER: I think... It sounded... Yeah, we're actually hunkered down behind our vehicle... it's difficult to ascertain who fired that shot. A single shot but...

HOST: It's ok.

MILLER: Oh, someone's firing. I think we are going to boogie out of here. I... but as we do that -- before we just rush into the car, we don't want to make any sudden movements here. We're going to get into the vehicle guys.

HOST: Ok. Hold on... David, David, get in the car. Get in the car. Go. We'll come back to you later.

MILLER: We're going to get into the vehicle guys. Get in the vehicle... We're in the... You know... Ok, it's difficult to tell who's firing at us. Again, I don't know if we're still up on the satellite.

HOST: David, is that an armored car?

MILLER: Overhead we can, over... We're in an armored car. That affords us a great degree of protection. Another concern that we do have in this location, is that overhead, we can hear off in the distance -- again, it's difficult to ascertain how far in the distance -- an Israeli drone aircraft. And it is from those aircraft that the Israelis have launched a number of airstrikes. So, that is an additional concern that we have broadcasting from this location. So, again, I don't know how far away that gun fire was. If it was Israeli gunfire it's difficult for us to say. It could just be someone with a weapon. For the most part, the area we're talking to you from is deserted. We still have that camera picture up and there is no one in sight here in front of us. The road is complete empty the buildings are abandoned. On the left side of your screen, just out of camera range, is one of the abandoned Israeli settlements. There is absolutely no one, no one that we can detect. So, at this time what I'd like to do is communicate with my photographer and see if we can get him to safety.... Pierre, are we going to get in the vehicle here and very slowly but deliberately leave the area. Ok, that said... We still hear shots... We're going to take our camera down, guys, and we're going to talk to you from a safer position. We're going to go.

HOST: Ok.


Gotta love the end of the video where the dumbass Kilmeade is whining about Miller the FAUX sitting duck having a "Press" pass on his jacket, and the other FAUX fuck in the studio says "well sometimes the bad guys with guns don't care" (or something like that)

Bad guys with guns that don't care? Sounds like the IDF to me alright

Link (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Fox_crew_shot_at_in_Israel_0713.html)

Sarge's Little Helper
07-13-2006, 10:32 PM
Too bad it wasn't that fucking asshole Kilmeade over there, WITHOUT a flak jacket....


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Partial transcript:

FOX HOST: Palestinian Prime Minister, Mahmoud Abbas, says, "Israeli's incursion into Lebanon could start a regional war." We got David Lee Miller there, live, in central Gaza. David Lee, I see you have your flak jacket on. What's happening?

DAVID LEE MILLER: Right now, Brian, fortunately, not a great deal. We're on the outskirts of Abala[sic] but yesterday at this very location -- in the city here -- some 12 Palestinians were killed. At least half of them, according to local sources, were militants. One of them was also a policeman and this is normally a very busy roadway. This is Sala Adini[sic] street. This is the main artery that cuts through the Gaza strip. It goes from the very bottom to the very top of the script. As you can see for yourself, it is a ghost town at this hour. Not a single car is on this road. The reason for that, the Israelis have effectively now, they have cut Gaza in half. There is a strong Israeli presence here. This is the first time that there Israeli troops in Gaza since the withdrawal last summer. And just over my shoulder, off in the distance -- you can't see it in camera range -- there are Israeli tanks. There are Israeli tanks and there has been some military activity from shelling and for that reason, as you point out, we are wearing the flak jackets.

[..]

MILLER: ...and despite this action in Gaza City, targeting the Foreign Ministry building that is all but gutted at this hour, militants in Gaza today did continue to launch rockets from the northern part of the strip, over the border into nearby Israeli towns and... whoa! We just go fired at. That's the end of this [broadcast], I think. I don't know if you guys can still hear us.

HOST: Go... Do what you need to do.

MILLER: I guess we're still on the satellite here.

HOST: David, do what you need to do to be...

MILLER: someone... fire at us.

HOST: Where... Where...

MILLER: Yes?

HOST: [unintelligible]

MILLER: You see the camera shot don't you guys?

HOST: Right. Get into a safe place.

MILLER: I think... It sounded... Yeah, we're actually hunkered down behind our vehicle... it's difficult to ascertain who fired that shot. A single shot but...

HOST: It's ok.

MILLER: Oh, someone's firing. I think we are going to boogie out of here. I... but as we do that -- before we just rush into the car, we don't want to make any sudden movements here. We're going to get into the vehicle guys.

HOST: Ok. Hold on... David, David, get in the car. Get in the car. Go. We'll come back to you later.

MILLER: We're going to get into the vehicle guys. Get in the vehicle... We're in the... You know... Ok, it's difficult to tell who's firing at us. Again, I don't know if we're still up on the satellite.

HOST: David, is that an armored car?

MILLER: Overhead we can, over... We're in an armored car. That affords us a great degree of protection. Another concern that we do have in this location, is that overhead, we can hear off in the distance -- again, it's difficult to ascertain how far in the distance -- an Israeli drone aircraft. And it is from those aircraft that the Israelis have launched a number of airstrikes. So, that is an additional concern that we have broadcasting from this location. So, again, I don't know how far away that gun fire was. If it was Israeli gunfire it's difficult for us to say. It could just be someone with a weapon. For the most part, the area we're talking to you from is deserted. We still have that camera picture up and there is no one in sight here in front of us. The road is complete empty the buildings are abandoned. On the left side of your screen, just out of camera range, is one of the abandoned Israeli settlements. There is absolutely no one, no one that we can detect. So, at this time what I'd like to do is communicate with my photographer and see if we can get him to safety.... Pierre, are we going to get in the vehicle here and very slowly but deliberately leave the area. Ok, that said... We still hear shots... We're going to take our camera down, guys, and we're going to talk to you from a safer position. We're going to go.

HOST: Ok.


Gotta love the end of the video where the dumbass Kilmeade is whining about the FAUX sitting duck having a "Press" pass on his jacket, and the other FAUX fuck in the studio says "well sometimes the bad guys with guns don't care" (or something like that)

Bad guys with guns that don't care? Sounds like the IDF to me alrightLink (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Fox_crew_shot_at_in_Israel_0713.html)

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

DEMON CUNT
07-13-2006, 10:35 PM
Holy Shit! The Israelis hate our freedom too!

LoungeMachine
07-14-2006, 12:47 AM
Dick Cheney is fighting for Israel now?

Redballjets88
07-14-2006, 01:03 AM
no i actually think it was a soldier but yano its just an opinion

FORD
07-14-2006, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Dick Cheney is fighting for Israel now?

Maybe he was hunting some Kosher quail?

Cathedral
07-14-2006, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Too bad it wasn't that fucking asshole Kilmeade over there, WITHOUT a flak jacket....


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Partial transcript:

FOX HOST: Palestinian Prime Minister, Mahmoud Abbas, says, "Israeli's incursion into Lebanon could start a regional war." We got David Lee Miller there, live, in central Gaza. David Lee, I see you have your flak jacket on. What's happening?

DAVID LEE MILLER: Right now, Brian, fortunately, not a great deal. We're on the outskirts of Abala[sic] but yesterday at this very location -- in the city here -- some 12 Palestinians were killed. At least half of them, according to local sources, were militants. One of them was also a policeman and this is normally a very busy roadway. This is Sala Adini[sic] street. This is the main artery that cuts through the Gaza strip. It goes from the very bottom to the very top of the script. As you can see for yourself, it is a ghost town at this hour. Not a single car is on this road. The reason for that, the Israelis have effectively now, they have cut Gaza in half. There is a strong Israeli presence here. This is the first time that there Israeli troops in Gaza since the withdrawal last summer. And just over my shoulder, off in the distance -- you can't see it in camera range -- there are Israeli tanks. There are Israeli tanks and there has been some military activity from shelling and for that reason, as you point out, we are wearing the flak jackets.

[..]

MILLER: ...and despite this action in Gaza City, targeting the Foreign Ministry building that is all but gutted at this hour, militants in Gaza today did continue to launch rockets from the northern part of the strip, over the border into nearby Israeli towns and... whoa! We just go fired at. That's the end of this [broadcast], I think. I don't know if you guys can still hear us.

HOST: Go... Do what you need to do.

MILLER: I guess we're still on the satellite here.

HOST: David, do what you need to do to be...

MILLER: someone... fire at us.

HOST: Where... Where...

MILLER: Yes?

HOST: [unintelligible]

MILLER: You see the camera shot don't you guys?

HOST: Right. Get into a safe place.

MILLER: I think... It sounded... Yeah, we're actually hunkered down behind our vehicle... it's difficult to ascertain who fired that shot. A single shot but...

HOST: It's ok.

MILLER: Oh, someone's firing. I think we are going to boogie out of here. I... but as we do that -- before we just rush into the car, we don't want to make any sudden movements here. We're going to get into the vehicle guys.

HOST: Ok. Hold on... David, David, get in the car. Get in the car. Go. We'll come back to you later.

MILLER: We're going to get into the vehicle guys. Get in the vehicle... We're in the... You know... Ok, it's difficult to tell who's firing at us. Again, I don't know if we're still up on the satellite.

HOST: David, is that an armored car?

MILLER: Overhead we can, over... We're in an armored car. That affords us a great degree of protection. Another concern that we do have in this location, is that overhead, we can hear off in the distance -- again, it's difficult to ascertain how far in the distance -- an Israeli drone aircraft. And it is from those aircraft that the Israelis have launched a number of airstrikes. So, that is an additional concern that we have broadcasting from this location. So, again, I don't know how far away that gun fire was. If it was Israeli gunfire it's difficult for us to say. It could just be someone with a weapon. For the most part, the area we're talking to you from is deserted. We still have that camera picture up and there is no one in sight here in front of us. The road is complete empty the buildings are abandoned. On the left side of your screen, just out of camera range, is one of the abandoned Israeli settlements. There is absolutely no one, no one that we can detect. So, at this time what I'd like to do is communicate with my photographer and see if we can get him to safety.... Pierre, are we going to get in the vehicle here and very slowly but deliberately leave the area. Ok, that said... We still hear shots... We're going to take our camera down, guys, and we're going to talk to you from a safer position. We're going to go.

HOST: Ok.


Gotta love the end of the video where the dumbass Kilmeade is whining about Miller the FAUX sitting duck having a "Press" pass on his jacket, and the other FAUX fuck in the studio says "well sometimes the bad guys with guns don't care" (or something like that)

Bad guys with guns that don't care? Sounds like the IDF to me alright

Link (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Fox_crew_shot_at_in_Israel_0713.html)

You really do need to get away from the computer for awhile.
Too much of anything can be a bad thing, especially the good stuff.

Those guys were scared shitless, and rightfully so.

Cathedral
07-14-2006, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Holy Shit! The Israelis hate our freedom too!

Nobody hates our freedom, just what we do with it.
We tend to use it to trample on other countries while we impose our way of life on them.
Or worse, we make deals with the opressors that keep their way of life from improving.

Freedom is a beautiful thing...until it's abused.

Ellyllions
07-14-2006, 07:55 AM
Having Media crews in the war zone is just amazingly STUPID!!!

When we first went after Bin Laden, the fucking media kept giving away the positions of the Special Forces teams because they would seek the SF teams out. Since they had the "press" tags they didn't bother being discreet.

But then again, this country would turn on it's heels if we had to get news from the war zone the way we did in WWII, or Vietnam.

Nickdfresh
07-14-2006, 09:37 AM
We had relatively free roaming reporters in Vietnam, Korea, and the first Gulf War™. And the military loved the media then. When things are going well, well, they love the media. But when things go wrong, we reach for the cover ups and scapegoat...

Elly, your thoughts on Afghanistan are very good points, a place where we had a very limited number of SF & CIA operatives as opposed to infantry divisions. Yes, then reporters like Geraldo cannot be allowed to point out U.S. positions and tactics in such a small scale war, and blow peoples' cover. However, we won handily and the Taliban fell apart because the people thought they were corrupt, hypocritical assholes, I gather. The media hasn't been paying as much attention to Afghanistan, and things haven't been going as well there lately (the Taliban guerrillas now control over 30% of the country).

And of course, there was the Soviet "press" writing glowing reports of the War against the "bandits" there in the 80's. They clearly were defeated, and it had nothing to do with media...

I sure as hell will not rely on the 'official version' of peace and tranquility in Baghdad. When I read some rightest partisan crap, I think of Pravda circa 1987. "All is well. The 'terrorists(bandits)' are being defeated by our glorious blah blah blah..."

Ellyllions
07-14-2006, 09:43 AM
But it wasn't real-time like it is today.
And the military actually had some control over where they went and what they did.

This IS reality tv sponsored by Coke and Ford.

Nickdfresh
07-14-2006, 09:54 AM
The military still has control, and very little of Iraq is real time anymore. In fact the complaint is that reporters are wholed up in the Green Zone safe area, and are not really getting around much at all since they're targets...

And another problem with objectivity is that reporters tend to bond with the units, often throwing off their clarity. So, in many ways, 'embedding' reporters is very beneficial to the military. And there is a measure of control...

Reporters are suffering casualties that far exceeds any other conflict in this War...

BITEYOASS
07-15-2006, 12:11 AM
Why does this remind me of that Al Franken one man mobile satellite uplink skit on SNL?