View Full Version : Happy Left-hander's day!
Ally_Kat
08-13-2006, 06:46 PM
Party on fellow lefties. And don't worry you sinistrophobes, it's only one day. ;)
Little Texan
08-14-2006, 12:26 AM
I heard somewhere that left handed folks don't live as long as right handed folks.
Ally_Kat
08-14-2006, 12:28 AM
I read that, too, a while ago. I think they said it was because the accident rates for lefties was higher because we're backwards of sorts. lol
binnie
08-14-2006, 03:30 AM
There's a lefties day!
Well, have fun my fellow left-handers.
Apparently, we are more creative.....
RuzDNailz
08-14-2006, 03:39 AM
There's supposed to be one in every family. What about ambidextrous people? Aren't they also entitled to this day? There
are some cities that have specialty stores for us left-handers.
As lefty as I am, I still play my bass right-handed.
MERRYKISSMASS2U
08-14-2006, 03:49 AM
Statistics show that older people are less likely to be left-handed than their younger counterparts — the percentages of left-handed people sharply drop off with increased age. In America, 12% of 20 year olds are left-handed, while only 5% of 50 year olds and less than 1% of people over 80 are. These numbers are surprisingly divergent — how can they be explained?
A study <b>(no longer deemed credible)</b> published in 1991 claimed that these statistics indicate that left-handed peoples' lifespans are shorter than those of their right-handed counterparts by as much as 9 years. They explained this gap by asserting that left-handed people are more likely to die in accidents as a result of their "affliction," which renders them clumsier and ill-equipped to survive in a right-handed world.
Researchers now attribute most of the difference between the age groups to the fact that older people would be more likely to have experienced pressure to switch hands, a factor not affecting the younger generations. This is supported by the fact that more women than men switched hands, and women live longer than men. However, this reasoning cannot explain all variation, and "the case of the disappearing southpaws" remains a mystery.
Another theory is that some lefties switch hands later in life, due to conformist pressures, or a "biological imperative." It has also been suggested that the percentage of children born left-handed may have been increasing over time.
MERRYKISSMASS2U
08-14-2006, 03:50 AM
<a href="http://www.wikipedia.org">Stop guessing!</a>
binnie
08-14-2006, 03:51 AM
Am I going to die young?
If so, I think it'd have more to do with my alchol intake than which hand I write with.....
MERRYKISSMASS2U
08-14-2006, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by binnie
Am I going to die young?
If so, I think it'd have more to do with my alchol intake than which hand I write with.....
or typing about 50 posts a day...
binnie
08-14-2006, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
or typing about 50 posts a day...
Perhaps, although I have cut down from 70+, so maybe I'll live a little longer!
Jérôme Frenchise
08-14-2006, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by RuzDNailz
There are some cities that have specialty stores for us left-handers.
As lefty as I am, I still play my bass right-handed.
Did you resign to right-handed guitars?
I mean, I'm right-handed, but I can't play otherwise than on a left-handed guitar. Before I finally bought one, I used my friends's, in the "right" way for aminute, then always wound up turning it the other way, even though the strings were reversed.
No need to explain how it felt when I finally bought my own guitar. :)
mako_kimura
08-14-2006, 07:59 AM
I play guitar lefty, and for some reason people keep telling me to learn right handed cause I'll be limited. I just tell em all to screw off
Last_Child
08-14-2006, 08:51 AM
Ooh Happy Day.
one of my best friends are left handed... plays guitar right handed though.
Jérôme Frenchise
08-14-2006, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by mako_kimura
I play guitar lefty, and for some reason people keep telling me to learn right handed cause I'll be limited. I just tell em all to screw off
Limited?? In your choice for guitars, maybe...
As for playing, it's rather by playing right-handed then hindering your gestures that you would be...
Or maybe you play left-handed with a right-handed guitar with the strings as they are? :eek:
Ally_Kat
08-14-2006, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
<a href="http://www.wikipedia.org">Stop guessing!</a>
Jesus Christ on a cross. Do you have an inferiority complex, google something, and then think you know it all based on a webpage that anyone can alter the entry to? I did an in-depth thesis about left-handedness for my child development class. Lefties do have an higher accident rate and, at younger ages, are more likely to die from their accidents. The accidents lefties are more prone to get involved with include car crashes (our reaction often is to jerk the wheel left) and power tool incidents. For the older popular, there are less lefties because of lefty-hate. Many faiths would view the left-handed child as representative of their evil diety and would hit the child whenever he didn't write with their left-hand. Many lefties who switch naturally without any interference (which aren't many lefties at all) do so because there are different levels of handedness and they were in that zone where it could be one or the other. Not so much ambidexterity as it sounds, because they only rely on one hand and all that happens is a change in preference.
I have some recent education journal articles sitting on my floor if you want to look thru them since they did not make the wikipedia cut.
Ally_Kat
08-14-2006, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by mako_kimura
I play guitar lefty, and for some reason people keep telling me to learn right handed cause I'll be limited. I just tell em all to screw off
You'd be limited the other way because it's not the way you are comfortable.
I know when I was learning new things, my parents would hand me whatever it was and told me to hold it how I thought comfortable and that we would go from there. How can you learn something effectively if you are trying to learn it and adjust to a new way of handling it?
binnie
08-14-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Jesus Christ on a cross. Do you have an inferiority complex, google something, and then think you know it all based on a webpage that anyone can alter the entry to? I did an in-depth thesis about left-handedness for my child development class. Lefties do have an higher accident rate and, at younger ages, are more likely to die from their accidents. The accidents lefties are more prone to get involved with include car crashes (our reaction often is to jerk the wheel left) and power tool incidents. For the older popular, there are less lefties because of lefty-hate. Many faiths would view the left-handed child as representative of their evil diety and would hit the child whenever he didn't write with their left-hand. Many lefties who switch naturally without any interference (which aren't many lefties at all) do so because there are different levels of handedness and they were in that zone where it could be one or the other. Not so much ambidexterity as it sounds, because they only rely on one hand and all that happens is a change in preference.
I have some recent education journal articles sitting on my floor if you want to look thru them since they did not make the wikipedia cut.
That actually sounds really interesting, although as a Leftie I can honestly say that my handwriting is the only thing that I notice I do differently from others: I write so badly it's not even funny.....
Is most of the research into this educational studies, or is it from broader fields, psychology, biology, genetics etc etc...
Sounds really interesting Ally...
Ally_Kat
08-14-2006, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by binnie
That actually sounds really interesting, although as a Leftie I can honestly say that my handwriting is the only thing that I notice I do differently from others: I write so badly it's not even funny.....
Is most of the research into this educational studies, or is it from broader fields, psychology, biology, genetics etc etc...
Sounds really interesting Ally...
Which probably means you're one of those lefties closer or in the pick and choose hand dominance area, altho that's just based on that. My mom was strict with my handwriting cuz my grandfather was left-handed. The school tried their hardest to switch me and mom was adament I write with the hand I picked. I don't do the hook thing. People are always amazed and tell me I write just like a right-hander. And they'll sit there and watch. I don't know why because I'm not the only one who writes that way.
If you want to have some fun, try mirror-writing. Because you're left-handed, it's easier to do. Just start on the right side of the paper and write letters and words backwards. At first it's a lil confusing, but after a couple of times, you'll write that way just as fast if not faster than the normal way. People don't ask to borrow my notes anymore :D
And it's a mix of fields, really. Mostly psychology/development, biology and educational research with some theology/cultural investigating.
Ozzy Fudd
08-14-2006, 02:31 PM
Is it true that you should never let the Left hand ever know what the Right Hand is doing?:D
mako_kimura
08-14-2006, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
Limited?? In your choice for guitars, maybe...
As for playing, it's rather by playing right-handed then hindering your gestures that you would be...
Or maybe you play left-handed with a right-handed guitar with the strings as they are? :eek:
I play completely lefty, "Hendrix style" at times
RuzDNailz
08-14-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
Did you resign to right-handed guitars?
I mean, I'm right-handed, but I can't play otherwise than on a left-handed guitar. Before I finally bought one, I used my friends's, in the "right" way for aminute, then always wound up turning it the other way, even though the strings were reversed.
No need to explain how it felt when I finally bought my own guitar. :)
Actually, the first guitar I played was left-handed but the strings were upside down! I would have had to of restrung the body and go through all that trouble. But it seemed weird because the weight distribution was lighter and it felt less stress on my neck and shoulders.
Righty just seemed well, right (pardon the pun) because the strings were in the appropriate order and I got used to the neck strap.
Just took some adjusting to, I guess.
Va Beach VH Fan
08-14-2006, 08:08 PM
Woohoo !!!!
Well, I'll be honest, I'm not a total lefty...
I kick with my right foot, I play hockey right-handed, and I beat off with my right hand....
Just being honest.... ;)
binnie
08-15-2006, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by Ally_Kat
If you want to have some fun, try mirror-writing. Because you're left-handed, it's easier to do. Just start on the right side of the paper and write letters and words backwards. At first it's a lil confusing, but after a couple of times, you'll write that way just as fast if not faster than the normal way. People don't ask to borrow my notes anymore :D
And it's a mix of fields, really. Mostly psychology/development, biology and educational research with some theology/cultural investigating.
I'm gonna try that!
Cheers!
ELVIS
08-15-2006, 07:37 AM
I'm 100% lefty...
ELVIS
08-15-2006, 07:38 AM
And BTW, Lefty guitars are everywhere...
Jérôme Frenchise
08-15-2006, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by RuzDNailz
Actually, the first guitar I played was left-handed but the strings were upside down! I would have had to of restrung the body and go through all that trouble. But it seemed weird because the weight distribution was lighter and it felt less stress on my neck and shoulders.
Righty just seemed well, right (pardon the pun) because the strings were in the appropriate order and I got used to the neck strap.
Just took some adjusting to, I guess.
This is most uncommon! :D
I think I know why I hold guitar that way: I was offered a guitar when I was 4, not a toy, a real one, an acoustic imitation of a Les Paul, but which size was adapted to my height. From the day I got it I never stopped playing it, as I used to sing a lot already, and I remember I gave song recitals every time my family or friends of my parents came to our home. Well, many of us must have done so... :)
It must have been by watching guitar players on TV, the "mirror" thing, the huge majority of guitarists playing right-handed... I'm almost sure it's the reason why.
Anyway, the elder of my cousins, who was 4 years older than I was, once came to our home with his family. You know how it goes, you show your fave toys, etc. My guitar was my thing...
I took it up and began to play, but that cunt tried have a grab at it, and he insisted, while repeating "it's not that way you hold a guitar", then I would never let go of it, and in the quarrel the neck of the guitar was eventually broken!
I went mad and we began to fight, not very long because I gave him a right jab that he could remember as the first of a series in the years that followed.
As I had reacted violently, my parents didn't buy me another guitar, which explains my hatred towards that cunt of a cousin and the many times I punched him in the face from then on. My father ended many a scrap, at least when he was around... I very soon knew that the sound of fists in a face aren't those that you hear in movies... :D
But I enjoyed the creak of that jerk's nose when I punched it. :cool:
Then I've grown more and more zen over the years.
Instead of buying me another guitar, they found me piano lessons, which I had for seven years but never really enjoyed, for all I wanted was playing the guitar. :( :cool:
Jérôme Frenchise
08-15-2006, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
I'm 100% lefty...
:D That's what they call concealing your hand!
blonddgirl777
08-15-2006, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Little Texan
I heard somewhere that left handed folks don't live as long as right handed folks.
Back in the early 70's, when my husband (a leftie) started writting in school, the teacher FORCED him to write with his right hand. She insisted that he had to take the eraser in his left hand and not let go of it, to make sure he wouldn't swich the pencil back to his left hand.
He started to have headaches and was very miserable but that teacher was insistant by saying that he had to "conform" and act like all the others...
How fucked up was that?
His mother had to get involved and fight for the "abuse" to stop. It did.
Now it's the first time I hear about their life being shorter than ours...
How sad! :(
blonddgirl777
08-15-2006, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Little Texan
I heard somewhere that left handed folks don't live as long as right handed folks.
Maybe they die out of frustration because EVERYTHING is made for the right handeds!
Not fair...
binnie
08-15-2006, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Back in the early 70's, when my husband (a leftie) started writting in school, the teacher FORCED him to write with his right hand. She insisted that he had to take the eraser in his left hand and not let go of it, to make sure he wouldn't swich the pencil back to his left hand.
He started to have headaches and was very miserable but that teacher was insistant by saying that he had to "conform" and act like all the others...
How fucked up was that?
His mother had to get involved and fight for the "abuse" to stop. It did.
Now it's the first time I hear about their life being shorter than ours...
How sad! :(
In England in the nineteenth-century, they used to force kids to write right-handed. If they didn't they would strap the left arm behind their backs so that they had no choice. Apparently, that led to a large increase in stammers due to the trauma.
Jérôme Frenchise
08-15-2006, 12:38 PM
Sinister... That old superstition towards the left-handed is due to religions, and catholics never were the last for persecuting them.
Education in France and many Western European countries was monopolized by clergy for centuries and centuries - from the early middle-Ages to most of the 19th century... Treating left-handedness as devilish was just part of the general obscurantism they would spread on every single part of people. I won't talk about Inquisition, I would be off track...
Bullying kids for non-existent (religious, then superstitious) reasons even survived in state primary schools until the late 1960s. You could still wind up at the mercy of a religious zealot as a schoolmaster, who was an adept of public (in class, that is) corporal punishment in general, which was frequent, and against left-handed pupils in particular...
My own father had such a maniac as his schoolmaster during the fifties. He was a true left-hander. He was forced to write with his right-hand, until he couldn't do otherwise - he still writes with his right hand.
He once told me about that, and how he couldn't understand why the hell it would matter that much which hand you use. That schoolmaster was the choirmaster of the church that was two steps from my father's school. The best way to disgust a child from church and school. It didn't prevent my father from graduating, though.
Left-handed tennis players, beyond the fact their gestures are triggered slightly faster than the right-handers's, have a big advantage, as they serve on their fave side, from left to right, at 40/0, 40:30 and in advantages. There's only 40/15 left for the right-handed.
Other important points, 0/15, 15/0, 15/30 or 30/15, are played on the same side.
That said, there's the same proportion of left-handed players amongst professionals as in the rest of the population. :cool:
Little Texan
08-15-2006, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
and I beat off with my right hand....
If you switch hands during beatin' it, do you gain a stroke? :D
Va Beach VH Fan
08-15-2006, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Little Texan
If you switch hands during beatin' it, do you gain a stroke? :D
Good question, we may need a ruling on that one.... ;)
Bob_R
08-15-2006, 10:04 PM
Here's to me :gulp: and all the Army lefties! :)
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