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Hardrock69
08-16-2006, 09:17 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/one-giant-blunder-for-mankind-how-nasa-lost-moon-pictures/2006/08/04/1154198328978.html

THE heart-stopping moments when Neil Armstrong took his first tentative steps onto another world are defining images of the 20th century: grainy, fuzzy, unforgettable.

But just 37 years after Apollo 11, it is feared the magnetic tapes that recorded the first moon walk - beamed to the world via three tracking stations, including Parkes's famous "Dish" - have gone missing at NASA's Goddard Space Centre in Maryland.

A desperate search has begun amid concerns the tapes will disintegrate to dust before they can be found.

It is not widely known that the Apollo 11 television broadcast from the moon was a high-quality transmission, far sharper than the blurry version relayed instantly to the world on that July day in 1969.

Among those battling to unscramble the mystery is John Sarkissian, a CSIRO scientist stationed at Parkes for a decade. "We are working on the assumption they still exist," Mr Sarkissian told the Herald.

"Your guess is a good as mine as to where they are."

Mr Sarkissian began researching the role of Parkes in Apollo 11's mission in 1997, before the movie The Dish was made. However, when he later contacted NASA colleagues to ask about the tapes, they could not be found.

"People may have thought 'we have tapes of the moon walk, we don't need these'," said the scientist who hopes a new, intensive hunt will locate them.

If they can be found, he proposes making digitalised copies to treat the world to a very different view of history.

But the searchers may be running out of time. The only known equipment on which the original analogue tapes can be decoded is at a Goddard centre set to close in October, raising fears that even if they are found before they deteriorate, copying them may be impossible.

"We want the public to see it the way the moon walk was meant to be seen," Mr Sarkissian said.

"There will only ever be one first moon walk."

Originally stored at Goddard, the tapes were moved in 1970 to the US National Archives. No one knows why, but in 1984 about 700 boxes of space flight tapes there were returned to Goddard.

"We have the documents to say they were withdrawn, but no one knows exactly where they went," Mr Sarkissian said.

Many people involved had retired or died.

Also among tapes feared missing are the original recordings of the other five Apollo moon landings. The format used by the original pictures beamed from the moon was not compatible with commercial technology used by television networks. So the images received at Parkes, and at tracking stations near Canberra and in California, were played on screens mounted in front of conventional television cameras.

"The quality of what you saw on TV at home was substantially degraded" in the process, Mr Sarkissian said, creating the ghostly images of Armstrong and Aldrin that strained the eyes of hundreds of millions of people watching around the world.

Even Polaroid photographs of the screen that showed the original images received by Parkes are significantly sharper than what the public saw. While the technique looks primitive today, Mr Sarkissian said it was the best solution that 1969 technology offered.

Among the few who saw the original high-quality broadcast was David Cooke, a Parkes control room engineer in 1969.

"I can still see the screen," Mr Cook, 74, said. "I was amazed, the quality was fairly good."

Jérôme Frenchise
08-16-2006, 09:29 AM
Damned! Have they really lost the tapes - very hard to believe... - or is it just a trick to arouse memories before some new video marketing?
I still have my old VHS of a 40' "summary" of the approach, the moonlanding and first steps, and only by reading the article I feel like watching it again. :)

Hardrock69
08-16-2006, 10:56 AM
I hope they find this stuff.....they say in the article the quality is actually much better than what we have seen. I would love to have a DVD direct from the master tapes!

Jérôme Frenchise
08-16-2006, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
I hope they find this stuff.....they say in the article the quality is actually much better than what we have seen. I would love to have a DVD direct from the master tapes!

I'd bet my shirt that it's precisely what's going to be released! ;)

Jimmy Jingles
08-16-2006, 12:33 PM
Wait...

Wasn't the 'Moonwalk' faked on a film set somewhere?



:monkey:

Hardrock69
08-17-2006, 01:27 PM
Well for that matter, if that were true, how can it be explained that one of the "experiments" left on the surface was a mirror, and that scientists to this day bounce laser beams off it from the earth?

Seshmeister
08-17-2006, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
I hope they find this stuff.....they say in the article the quality is actually much better than what we have seen. I would love to have a DVD direct from the master tapes!

You don't think that would be pretty boring to watch?

Seshmeister
08-17-2006, 01:41 PM
Bet it's in here...:)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Government_Warehouse.jpg

Seshmeister
08-17-2006, 01:57 PM
Quote of the week on this was when the top NASA guy came out saying that the tapes were not lost, they just didn't know where they were.:)

Gotta love the government...

Douglas T.
08-18-2006, 08:29 AM
http://www.freakingnews.com/entries/22000/22457-Moon_w.jpg

http://www.freakingnews.com/entries/22000/22437-Moon-Hoax_w.jpg


http://www.freakingnews.com/images.asp?contest_id=1115&start=1&end=10&display=photoshop

Hardrock69
08-18-2006, 09:53 AM
LMFAO!!!

Sesh got it right with the photo.....looking at it from that point of view...I always wondered if there were some kind of warehouse like that where the gummint has all kinds of neat things stored that they have recovered from around the world that would blow the public's mind if their existence was revealed....


However, ya fucking goober, you know what I mean....I am not talking about wanting to own 700 boxes of crap transferred to DVD.... I mean come ON...who wants to watch some mission controller picking their nose for 30 minutes in digital quality....
:rolleyes:

Back to the subject of unknown cool stuff stored in secret gummint warehouses...
I think it would be cool to see film of Marilyn Monroe being butt-raped by JFK while sucking Bobby Kennedy's dick!!!
:D

MAPRamone
08-19-2006, 05:45 AM
Sesh, is that pic from the first Indy flick? I once saw a documentary claiming that while the moonwalk was real the footage they got was so bad that they had to fake it. It was a french documentary so you can draw your own conclusions.

Douglas T.
08-19-2006, 08:27 AM
Not the moonwalk vids but here's some pics that are real!

http://www.ktb.net/~billmeco/sts114A.html