"Worst" of the Who

[Mr. Vengeance]

I'm starting the really big guys with the Who, because for me they were my least favorite of the holy British trinity (or quartet if you include the Kinks) Of Beatles, Stones, Who...

I have to go with Face Dances as the worst, since I LOATHED You Better You Bet with a passion!!!!

[PumpedUpMidget]

anything by them sucks....a very overrated band

[DrMaddVibe]

"It's Hard"...utter shit.

They say that addicts do drugs for creative freedom...The Who created "It's Hard" because they were drug free.

With a band like The Who...you do the math.

[Mr. Vengeance]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
"It's Hard"...utter shit.

They say that addicts do drugs for creative freedom...The Who created "It's Hard" because they were drug free.

With a band like The Who...you do the math.

Eminence Front did blow pretty fucking hard.....

[Terry]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
"It's Hard"...utter shit.

They say that addicts do drugs for creative freedom...The Who created "It's Hard" because they were drug free.

With a band like The Who...you do the math.

Agreed.

It's Hard was utter shite, save for the one song off it most know, Eminence Front, which sounds more like a Townshend solo track than a Who track.

Thought Face Dances had a few good tracks on it, but most of that sounded like it would have been better suited for a Townshend solo effort, as well.

Both of Townshends solo releases of the time, Empty Glass and All The Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes, lay to waste the studio releases done by the Who right after Moonie died.

Then again, there are several tracks on Who Are You that I don't consider among the group's best stuff, either.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

I don't have either "Faces Dances" or "It's Hard". I have nearly all the rest, safe the 1st album and "Sell Out". Must be those two (FD and It's H.), then, as I've never been disappointed with The Who's records. :)

[Shaun Ponsonby]

"Its Hard". I'm glad they're (Dalthrey/Townshend) are doing a new album under The Who name, that way the band's legacy wont end with such an utterly terrible album. The new single is pretty damn good.

And out of the holy British trinity, as Mr Vengeance put it...I think The Wjo are the best. I actually think The Beatles are the worst of the bunch. But, then, I've spent all of my life (give or take a year or 2) in Liverpool, so, everywhere I go, they're shoved in my face. People expect scousers to be huge Beatles fans. My Alan, thats annoying.

[DrMaddVibe]

Shaun...I usually like your taste in music, but I don't agree with ya bro.

With the holy trinity The Beatles take the top spot, followed very closely by the Stones. I rate Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Genesis and Yes ahead of the Who.

The Who should've died before they got old. Half of them did!

I liked Live @ Leeds and Who' Next with songs form other stuff here and there, but overall...they were luck to be where they were.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

As I said, though, I get The Beatles shoved into my face everytime I go into town. I don't know if you've ever been to Liverpool, but, everywhere you look, there's pictures and statues and T shirts of The Beatles. So, my Beatles frustration is probably a subconscious way of telling people to FACK ARF.

But, hey, each to their own.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
As I said, though, I get The Beatles shoved into my face everytime I go into town. I don't know if you've ever been to Liverpool, but, everywhere you look, there's pictures and statues and T shirts of The Beatles. So, my Beatles frustration is probably a subconscious way of telling people to FACK ARF.

But, hey, each to their own.

I imagine that living in their shadows is hard, but even when you strip the music away and look at just the lyrics as poems...they're works of art. Even today. Add what the 4 of them did and there isn't another band that comes close to musical depth. They ran the gamut from Pop to Acid. Their solo recordings were on a par with The Eagles solo works...hit and miss and always left ya scratching your head as to how much better it would've sounded if they would've worked together.

Don't wallow in the fact you live in the town that threw The Beatles at the world. Wear that "badge" with honor!

[Shaun Ponsonby]

I also detest John Lennon as a person.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
look at just the lyrics as poems...they're works of art.

"Nah na na na na na na
Na na na na
Hey Jude"

"We all live in a yellow submarine
A yellow submarine
A Yellow submarine"

"She loves you yea yea yea"

I see what you mean. I bet Jim Morrison was shitting himself.

To be fair, I do respect them. Without them, we wouldn't have ANYTHING. Including The Stones...who were origginally "made it" on being the supposed "south's answer to The Beatles". But, just don't tell me aboot them.

Lets put it this way

A famous WHO fan: Alice Cooper
A famous Beatles fan: Charlie Manson

[DrMaddVibe]

Playa hatin' thats what you doin'!

[Mr. Vengeance]

Since it's come up- my list would be Stones, Beatles, Kinks and then The Who.

[Terry]

Out of the holy trinity, I give it to the Who first, because they fuckin WAILED live. The Stones just weren't as good live as the Who were, and the Beatles were pretty unimpressive for the three odd years they did perform live after they got famous.

[ODShowtime]

Led Zeppelin stands astride them all.

[Terry]

I dunno...

When the Who were peaking live, they gave Zep a run for their money. And Zep after about 1972 weren't always enthralling live, either. A singer frequently abusing coke and a guitar player immersed in junk made for some abysmal moments onstage at times...

[Panamark]

Fred Durst singing Behind Blue eyes...

Thats the lowest "Who" moment...
(Technically not them performing, but allowing that
douche bag to sing that song killed that song forever)

That, and I guess learning that Pete Townsend had
much better lawyers than Gary Glitter when the cops
found child porn all over his hard disk...

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Originally posted by Terry
I dunno...

When the Who were peaking live, they gave Zep a run for their money. And Zep after about 1972 weren't always enthralling live, either. A singer frequently abusing coke and a guitar player immersed in junk made for some abysmal moments onstage at times...

I have heard a number of Led Zep boots, and I know that doesn't make me an expert, but, from what I've heard...they were very hit and miss live.

[Diamondjimi]

As for Brit bands Deep Purple , The Who, and Zeppelin . No one could match these live. These mofo's were ferocious live.
And true , pretty much everything post Moon sucked balls....
Oh yeah , can't forget Humble Pie .They kicked ass!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by diamondjimi
As for Brit bands Deep Purple , The Who, and Zeppelin . No one could match these live. These mofo's were ferocious live.
And true , pretty much everything post Moon sucked balls....
Oh yeah , can't forget Humble Pie .They kicked ass!

Though they were more rhythm 'n' blues/funk/rock oriented, I would add the J. Geils Band. They hit the very top too on stage, IMO.
It was mere furious madness live. :cool:

In their first two albums you find a certain amount of la-di-da tunes like "So sad about us", that would have suited best for nuns to sing... :D
In fact I think they did their worst in the beginning (partly, because there was still great stuff like "Boris the Spider" or "A Quick one while he's away", or even the splendid "In the city" that sounds very sixties-like - which I don't dig much - composed by Entwistle and Moon, that is just magic) and the "end" ("Face Dances", "It's hard").

Despite the excellent impressions I've heard and read here and there, their new start looks like they found the old fantastic oldsmobile could run another new last extra-mile, with two retreads and two substitute tyres that clash with the vintage design, the mould of the original brand being long broken... :cool:

[Mr. Vengeance]

I don't list Zep with the others because they weren't really part of the British "Invasion"...

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
I don't list Zep with the others because they weren't really part of the British "Invasion"...

They really were part of a one-guest category. No other band stands comparison...
But they couldn't compete against the Who on stage.
Who could? Except the J. Geils Band, I can see no other group. :cool:

[DrMaddVibe]

J. Geils Band wasn't British.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
J. Geils Band wasn't British.

Oh, sorry, I hadn't noticed the differentiation.

The JGB are from Boston, of course.

Thinking about it, there is no Brit group that stands the comparison with The Who as far as stage performance, as far as I know. :cool:

[Jack68]

Originally posted by Panamark
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That, and I guess learning that Pete Townsend had
much better lawyers than Gary Glitter when the cops
found child porn all over his hard disk... [/B]

No they didnt that is a moronic statement.Get your facts straight.

[Jack68]

1.the who were greatest live act evewr in their prime.
2.Genesis and Yes ahead of the who/both fine bands but that is laughable.
3.i definitely agree its hard was utter shit,i actually like face dances some good songs on it.another tricky day,the quiet one and you better you bet was good for the time.
4.Townshends solo albums do blow away the post moon work.empty glass is a classic if you dont have it it is worth the purchase.

[Jack68]

I rate Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Genesis and Yes ahead of the Who

I liked Live @ Leeds and Who' Next with songs form other stuff here and there, but overall...they were luck to be where they were. [/B]
[/QUOTE]
Genesis and yes ahead of the who?.You are a joke.Lemme guess the genesis not with phil collins on lead vocal and you crank yes records at youre beerbecues.luck to be where they are.Its obvious you dislike them,but try not looking at so biased.Ever hear of quadrophenia?yes and genesis?im actually laughing.just the thought of jon anderson yodeling in that fag voice high ptched voice.i know yes has great musicians MANNNNNNNNNNNN!

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Hey, hey...leave Jon Anderson alone. Although I agree with most of what you have said, Jon Anderson's voice defines prog for me, and it has survived better than most people in the business, Daltrey included.

And, Yes didn't yodel...that was Focus.

[MAPRamone]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe


The Who should've died before they got old. Half of them did!



Entwhistle died old.

[MAPRamone]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
I'm starting the really big guys with the Who, because for me they were my least favorite of the holy British trinity (or quartet if you include the Kinks) Of Beatles, Stones, Who...

I have to go with Face Dances as the worst, since I LOATHED You Better You Bet with a passion!!!!

I LOVE Face Dances and that song! Different tastes i guess...

[Jack68]

Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
Hey, hey...leave Jon Anderson alone. Although I agree with most of what you have said, Jon Anderson's voice defines prog for me, and it has survived better than most people in the business, Daltrey included.

And, Yes didn't yodel...that was Focus.

My apologies.His voice just goes right through me.What example could you give me of daltreys voice failing.Recently nothing comes to mind.I purchased a few webcasts from europe and the last show in spain was superb.daltrey sounded fantastic.at 62 im sure in his style of singing he will have a night off or two.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

For a 62 year old, he still sounds amazing, even though I think he sounds really weak at times...but, Jon Anderson is aboot the same age, give or take a year or 2, and his is MUCH stronger.

[flappo]

Originally posted by PumpedUpMidget
anything by them sucks....a very overrated band

hahaha

are you for real ?

so tommy , quadrophenia and who's next are shit ?

get a clue , dumbass

plus they're arguably the gratest live band of all fucking time

check out live at the isle of wight 1970 and young man blues

i rest my case

[FORD]

Live at Leeds probably will always remain the best live album ever.

At least among legal releases. If you included bootlegs I'd have to go with the Stones' "Brussels Affair".

[Terry]

I'd say even worse than Face Dances and It's Hard is the Who Rocks America video of their first farewell tour in 1982, recorded in Toronto.

Funny, because the first couple of years following Moon dying, the Who did some decent live work with Jones, who was always more expressive live to me than he ever was on record with the group...he always sounded subdued in the studio - or maybe that's just in comparison to Keith. And Pete was apparently out of his mind on booze. coke and a bit of snorted smack during 1979-1981, yet the band did a lot of good gigs until it came time to support It's Hard in 1982. They were fuckin' terrible, and this tour followed Pete gettin' detoxed.

A live album of this tour, called Who's Last, should be avoided at all costs, even by serious fans. Just the worst going through the motions nonsense by a band on life support. Townshend was right to call it quits in 1983.

[Jack68]

Originally posted by Terry
I'd say even worse than Face Dances and It's Hard is the Who Rocks America video of their first farewell tour in 1982, recorded in Toronto.

Funny, because the first couple of years following Moon dying, the Who did some decent live work with Jones, who was always more expressive live to me than he ever was on record with the group...he always sounded subdued in the studio - or maybe that's just in comparison to Keith. And Pete was apparently out of his mind on booze. coke and a bit of snorted smack during 1979-1981, yet the band did a lot of good gigs until it came time to support It's Hard in 1982. They were fuckin' terrible, and this tour followed Pete gettin' detoxed.

A live album of this tour, called Who's Last, should be avoided at all costs, even by serious fans. Just the worst going through the motions nonsense by a band on life support. Townshend was right to call it quits in 1983.

I agree with everything you just said.I have a dvd of the who live in chicago in 79 and it was professionally recorded,probably one of their best..Townshend was drunk but in agreat mood.the 79 stuff with jones on that tour was superb.

[flappo]

really ?

i'd like that vid

[Jack68]

Contact me and ill get it to you.

[Jack68]

http://www.thewholive.de/

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Terry
I dunno...

When the Who were peaking live, they gave Zep a run for their money. And Zep after about 1972 weren't always enthralling live, either. A singer frequently abusing coke and a guitar player immersed in junk made for some abysmal moments onstage at times...

whew don't I know it! Seattle 77? San Diego 75?

But 1969-1973 they played so many thunderous, legendary gigs. The Who did too, but didn't jam out as much.

[Terry]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
whew don't I know it! Seattle 77? San Diego 75?

But 1969-1973 they played so many thunderous, legendary gigs. The Who did too, but didn't jam out as much.


Suppose I was being a bit harsh on Zep in some ways, and the Who did have their fair share of bad gigs (and several cancelled gigs, usually because Moonie was too fucked up to play), but I'm always wary of even trading for Zep boots after 1973 or so without hearing some samples up front, because you just never know with those years if Page and Plant were gonna have an off or on night for that gig.

Bonham and Jones were dependable until the end, but...

Have heard several different shows/bootlegs from the 1977 tour, and that clearly was the most unstable one. Knebworth and even the dozen odd shows that made up Europe 1980 were better than a lot of the 1977 stuff, IMO. From everything I've read, it just seemed like the band were kinda fucked up from 1975 to 1977. Then they sorta pulled it together for In Through The Out Door and Knebworth, then Bonham punted out.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I remember the Who's original "farewell" show in Toronto which was aired all across Canada on TV (I'm not sure if it was aired in the U.S.) and radio stations did simulcasts so you could listen in "stereophonic sound!!" The problem was that the sync was 100% so the music was ahead of the video a little bit...man, we've come a long way in 20 + years, what with home theatre systems and all.