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LoungeMachine
09-21-2006, 09:38 PM
Musharraf: US threatened to bomb Pakistan
By David Usborne in New York

Published: 22 September 2006

The President of Pakistan, General Pervez Musharraf, reveals in an interview to be aired at the weekend that, soon after the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the United States threatened to bomb his country "back into the Stone Age" if he didn't offer its co-operation in fighting terrorism and the Taliban.

The revelation was made by General Musharraf during his visit to New York for the annual General Assembly of the United Nations. It comes after a week in which the US has been criticised by a number of foreign leaders for trying to impose its will on other nations.

Talking to a correspondent of the CBS news magazine 60 Minutes to be shown on Sunday evening, General Musharraf claims that the warning was delivered to his own director of intelligence by the US Assistant Secretary of State, Richard Armitage. "The intelligence director told me that [Armitage] said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age'," General Musharraf said, according to excerpts of the interview released by CBS last night.

President George Bush has been battered at the UN this week, notably from President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, who bluntly called him the "devil", and by Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Shortly after 9/11, Pakistan indeed ended its support of the Taliban and became a frontline ally of America in the "war on terror". However, General Musharraf makes no secret of his distaste for the strong-arm tactics he faced from Mr Armitage. "I think it was a very rude remark," he says in the interview. "One has to think and take actions in the interests of the nation, and that's what I did."

In a press conference yesterday, meanwhile, Mr Ahmadinjad tempered his repeated outbursts this week against the US and also Britain with the suggestion that contacts between his government and European officials on resolving their nuclear stand-off are "moving down the right path".

Even so, Mr Ahmadinejad could not resist the chance once more to pour scorn on countries, which, he said, "believe they have more right to rule world affairs than anyone else". His success in taking the media limelight in New York - in the General Assembly, in television interviews and at a meeting of the Council on Foreign Relations on Wednesday - has clearly got under the skin of American officials.

The Iranian President repeatedly refused yesterday to say whether Iran would abide by a UN resolution forbidding the delivery of arms to Hizbollah fighters in southern Lebanon. Nor was he prepared to withdraw the remark attributed to him earlier this year that Israel should be "wiped off the map". Skirting the question, he did say: "I am not anti-Jewish. I respect all Jews."

He several times took rhetorical flight when asked about the contention made by the West that Iran is enriching uranium as a step towards developing a nuclear bomb. He asked why the US was not destroying its arsenals and said that the issue was a "pretext" taken by Washington to impede Iran. "They are not interested in the bomb, they want to stop the development of our country," he said.

Tellingly, however, the President did not seek to undermine the negotiations themselves. A European official said talks between the EU foreign affairs commissioner, Xavier Solana, and his Iranian counterpart, Ali Larajani, which were meant to take place in New York, were now expected to happen next week. Those contacts aim to coax Iran into engaging in longer-term talks on condition that it agrees to suspend its enrichment activities first.

"We will tell you when the time arrives" for Iran to enact such a suspension, Mr Ahmadenijad said, suggesting he does not rule out meeting the condition. While the EU and the US publicly insist that no formal talks will begin until after that suspension, there are signs of flexibility on timing, particularly from Paris.

Mr Ahmadinejad said the success of any long-term talks would depend on Western nations offering certain guarantees to Tehran. He said he was looking for "guarantees of the enforcement of provisions that are agreed upon".

The President of Pakistan, General Pervez Musharraf, reveals in an interview to be aired at the weekend that, soon after the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the United States threatened to bomb his country "back into the Stone Age" if he didn't offer its co-operation in fighting terrorism and the Taliban.

The revelation was made by General Musharraf during his visit to New York for the annual General Assembly of the United Nations. It comes after a week in which the US has been criticised by a number of foreign leaders for trying to impose its will on other nations.

Talking to a correspondent of the CBS news magazine 60 Minutes to be shown on Sunday evening, General Musharraf claims that the warning was delivered to his own director of intelligence by the US Assistant Secretary of State, Richard Armitage. "The intelligence director told me that [Armitage] said, 'Be prepared to be bombed. Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age'," General Musharraf said, according to excerpts of the interview released by CBS last night.

President George Bush has been battered at the UN this week, notably from President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, who bluntly called him the "devil", and by Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Shortly after 9/11, Pakistan indeed ended its support of the Taliban and became a frontline ally of America in the "war on terror". However, General Musharraf makes no secret of his distaste for the strong-arm tactics he faced from Mr Armitage. "I think it was a very rude remark," he says in the interview. "One has to think and take actions in the interests of the nation, and that's what I did."

LoungeMachine
09-21-2006, 09:39 PM
Thur, Sept 21, 2006

Pakistan rejects Bush threat

Pakistan today vowed to not let foreign forces enter its territory a day after US president George Bush said he would order American military action inside this Islamic nation if Osama bin Laden was found to be hiding there.

Bush told CNN that he would authorise military action inside Pakistan if intelligence indicated that al-Qaida leader bin Laden or other top terrorists were in hiding.



Pakistani foreign ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam declined to respond directly to Bush’s remarks, but reiterated president General Pervez Musharraf’s recent rejection of any foreign military forces stepping foot in this Asian nation.

“Any terrorist action to be taken inside Pakistani territory would be taken by Pakistan,” Aslam said.

Guitar Shark
09-21-2006, 09:40 PM
Lounge, that Jesterstar quote in your sig is one of the funniest damn things ever posted at this site.

LoungeMachine
09-21-2006, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Lounge, that Jesterstar quote in your sig is one of the funniest damn things ever posted at this site.


And Jizzy is of Pakistani Heritage ;)

Nickdfresh
09-21-2006, 10:35 PM
Well, it's funny that Pakistan is a country obsessed with controlling Indian Kashmir, and Afghanistan, yet they can't get their western frontiers under control.

FORD
09-21-2006, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
And Jizzy is of Pakistani Heritage ;)

I thought he was from Fudgepakistan? :confused:

Nitro Express
09-22-2006, 01:45 AM
Anything between Bangledesh and Morrocco is fucked and impossible to understand.

blueturk
09-23-2006, 08:49 PM
Laden alive and healthy: Pak intelligence

Amir Mir
Sunday, September 24, 2006 01:33 IST

LAHORE: Pakistani intelligence circles have strongly refuted a French newspaper report claiming that al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden had died of typhoid in the country some time between August 23 and September 4 this year.

“Based on the information gleaned from several arrested al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders, we can say with authority that Osama bin Laden, his deputy Ayman Al Zawahiri and the former Taliban chief Mullah Mohammad Omar are very much alive and in good health,” said a senior intelligence official in Rawalpindi.

“We are sure that bin Laden is hiding somewhere between Afghanistan and Pakistan,” he said. “We believe that his deputy sometimes moves back and forth between the two with the help of Mullah Omar and his associates.”

The intelligence official said that even the American intelligence sleuths stationed in Pakistan are convinced that the al-Qaeda leader and his deputy are well and hiding somewhere on the Pak-Afghan border. “And they are trying to hunt him down,” the official said.

He said that had Osama been dead - especially, as recently as August - the news would have been broken by none other than the Pakistan president during his ongoing US visit. General Pervez Musharraf has everything to gain by making the news public. “General Musharraf knows quite well how much the news of Osama’s death would please President Bush at this stage,” the official said.

Intelligence sources pointed out that bin Laden was last seen on a video on the Al Jazeera television channel on January 21, 2006. A recording from Osama, his first message for over a year, was aimed at quashing rumours of his death and warning the Western world that its most wanted man remained a major threat.

Three months later, on April 25, 2006, Osama resurfaced with an audio-taped address. There was nothing new in his message; the real objective was to indicate that he was alive, still the leader of al-Qaeda, and a main player in world politics.

Intelligence officials say that rumours about bin Laden suffering from kidney-related afflictions have been rampant for years. A persistent rumour suggests that bin Laden received treatment for his damaged kidneys at the American Hospital in Dubai in 2001, arriving on July 4 and leaving on July 14.

Among those with him, it is said, was Ayman Zawahiri, who as well as being his personal physician is al-Qaeda’s second-in-command. However, a few days before the 9/11 attacks, bin Laden himself, in a November 2001 interview with a Pakistani paper, denied reports that he had been hospitalised. “My kidneys are all right,” he had said.

As things stand, nobody is certain about bin Laden’s whereabouts. Speculations, however, persist about his state of health, his plans for the future and his control over the supposedly defunct al-Qaeda.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1054848

Last edited by blueturk on 09-23-2006 at 02:31 PM

LoungeMachine
09-23-2006, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Anything between Crawford and The West Wing is fucked and impossible to understand.

yep;)

LoungeMachine
09-23-2006, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
Laden alive and healthy: Pak intelligence

Amir Mir
Sunday, September 24, 2006 01:33 IST


Thanks, BT.

Sorry to hear about your Panthers this year;)

blueturk
09-24-2006, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine ...Sorry to hear about your Panthers this year;)

It's still early....

LoungeMachine
09-24-2006, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
It's still early....


....and there's always next year;)

LoungeMachine
09-25-2006, 12:46 AM
Pakistan Denies Coup Rumors as Power Failures Hit Main Cities

By Paul Tighe

Sept. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan's government rejected as ``baseless'' rumors of a coup against President Pervez Musharraf that circulated after power failures struck areas of the country, including cities such as the capital, Islamabad.

The rumors don't deserve any comment, Tariq Azeem, the minister of state for information and broadcasting, said yesterday, according to the official Associated Press of Pakistan. The power failures that lasted for several hours yesterday weren't the result of sabotage, he said.

Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz ordered an inquiry into the loss of power caused while maintenance work was being carried out on a transmission line in the north of the country, AAP cited Azeem as saying. A report will be completed by tomorrow, he said.

Musharraf, who seized power in a bloodless coup in October 1999, has been out of the country attending the United Nations General Assembly in New York. Thailand's Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was overthrown by military leaders Sept. 19 in a bloodless coup that took place while he was in New York.

``Incidents of this kind do happen in the developed countries, including the USA, Canada and Malaysia,'' Azeem said, referring to the failures. Ishfaq Mahmood, the secretary for water and power, said power was restored in many areas by late yesterday, according to the AAP report.

Musharraf has resisted opposition demands that he step down as army chief, saying the country needs the stability he brings by holding both posts. Islamic parties have opposed his support for the U.S.-led war on terrorism and his government is trying to control unrest in the southwestern province of Baluchistan where tribal leaders are demanding a share in the province's gas and mineral wealth.

Pro-Taliban Groups

The government earlier this month signed an agreement with pro-Taliban tribal leaders in the North Waziristan region that borders Afghanistan that asks them to expel foreign al-Qaeda- linked fighters in return for the military scaling back the 90,000 soldiers it has in the area.

Many al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters are said to have fled across the border from Afghanistan to escape the war on terrorism that overthrew the Taliban regime in 2001.

Musharraf, in a message on the eve to today's start of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, appealed to Pakistanis to reject extremism and adhere to the teachings of Islam that preach self- restraint and compassion.

``The collective philosophy of Islam believes that a man's welfare lies in maintaining balance and refraining from extremism,'' the president said, according to AAP.

Presidency Extended

Musharraf's coup was validated by Pakistan's Supreme Court, which granted him executive and legislative authority until October 2002. A referendum in April 2002 extended his presidency for five more years and in August 2002, Musharraf amended Pakistan's 1973 constitution to give him powers to dissolve the National Assembly and appoint provincial governors.

He pledged to step down as army chief by December 2004. Parliament subsequently passed legislation allowing him to hold both offices until 2007.

Pakistan's government provided logistical and intelligence support to U.S. forces in their campaign to oust the Taliban in Afghanistan. About 97 percent of Pakistan's 165 million people are Muslims, according to U.S. government data.

LoungeMachine
09-27-2006, 02:02 AM
WORLD: THE UNITED STATES
THE TIMES OF INDIA|POWERED BY INDIATIMES
27 Sep, 2006| Updated at 0947hrs IST


WASHINGTON: Ahead of the Bush-Musharraf-Karzai trilateral meeting, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf has slammed his Afghanistan counterpart for "purposely turning a blind eye" to so-called alienation in his country."

"He is not oblivious. He knows everything. But he's purposely denying, turning a blind eye, like an ostrich. He doesn't want to tell the world what is the facts, for his own personal reasons.

"This is what I think.... In the government in Afghanistan, there is a certain community which is feeling alienated. And this community has 50 to 60 per cent representation of Afghanistan. And that is his problem. He has to balance out. And he is not being able to do that.And, therefore, he is trying to hide that everything is happening from Pakistan", Musharraf told CNN on Tuesday.

"If he keeps going wrong, I have been telling the world since three months, we are delaying. We are getting late. All this that I read is what is happening in Afghanistan in all the provinces. This is a movement going on. This is a Pashtun uprising by the people going on."

"If he doesn't understand this, he will keep going on, and we are going to lose in Afghanistan" he claimed. Musharraf stressed that Pakistan and Afghanistan should not be compared in the strategies on the war on terror saying that Islamabad is quite capable to conduct operations on its own in the hunt for Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaida leaders and that there are enough weapons at the disposal of Pakistan to see this through. "Sovereignty is a sensitive issue in Pakistan".

LoungeMachine
12-28-2007, 05:02 PM
necro-bump

Dan
12-28-2007, 06:05 PM
They make Great Cricket Bats.:)