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FORD
09-25-2006, 09:27 AM
Teammates: Allen used "N-word" in college
Three members of Sen. George Allen's college football team remember a man with racist attitudes at ease using racial slurs.

By Michael Scherer

Sep. 24, 2006 | George AllenThree former college football teammates of Sen. George Allen say that the Virginia Republican repeatedly used an inflammatory racial epithet and demonstrated racist attitudes toward blacks during the early 1970s.

"Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where 'blacks knew their place,'" said Dr. Ken Shelton, a white radiologist in North Carolina who played tight end for the University of Virginia football team when Allen was quarterback. "He used the N-word on a regular basis back then."

A second white teammate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared retribution from the Allen campaign, separately claimed that Allen used the word "******" to describe blacks. "It was so common with George when he was among his white friends. This is the terminology he used," the teammate said.

A third white teammate contacted separately, who also spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of being attacked by the Virginia senator, said he too remembers Allen using the word "******," though he said he could not recall a specific conversation in which Allen used the term. "My impression of him was that he was a racist," the third teammate said.

Shelton also told Salon that the future senator gave him the nickname "Wizard," because he shared a last name with Robert Shelton, who served in the 1960s as the imperial wizard of the United Klans of America, a group affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan. The radiologist said he decided earlier this year that he would go public with his concerns about Allen if a reporter ever called. About four months ago, when he heard that Allen was a possible candidate for president in 2008, Shelton began to write down some of the negative memories of his former teammate. He provided Salon excerpts of those notes last week.

On Sunday morning, Salon spoke with David Snepp, a spokesman for Allen's Senate office, to ask for a response to the recollections of the three former teammates. E-mail and phone messages were also left for Bill Bozin, a spokesman for the Allen campaign, and Dick Wadhams, the campaign manager. Though Snepp indicated that the campaign, and probably Wadhams, would respond, eight hours later no one in the Allen camp had replied to Salon. Chris LaCivita, a consultant to the Allen campaign, hung up when a Salon reporter reached him mid-afternoon Sunday. Additional attempts to contact the campaign were unsuccessful.

The racial attitudes of Allen, a once formidable presidential contender in 2008, have become an issue in his highly contested reelection campaign against Jim Webb, a former Marine and author. Last month, Allen was videotaped calling an Indian-American college student "macaca," an obscure word for monkey that is also used as a racial epithet in some parts of the world. Allen has since apologized to the student, saying that he made up the word, and did not know its other meanings.

Last week, Allen again created controversy by appearing offended when a reporter asked about the Jewish lineage in his mother's family, which he has since acknowledged. Allen has also faced questions about his affinity for the Confederate flag, which he wore as a pin in a high school yearbook photo and exhibited in his home in Virginia.

In public statements, Allen has said that he realized later in life that the Confederate flag was a symbol of violence for black Americans, and he has expressed some regret. "There are a lot of things that I wish I had learned earlier in life," Allen said in an appearance this month on NBC's "Meet the Press." But Allen has maintained that he never harbored any discriminatory attitudes toward blacks. "Even if your heart is pure, the things you say and do and the symbols you use matter because of how others may take them," he said in the prepared transcript for remarks to a luncheon with black educators on Sept. 13.

Over the past week, Salon has interviewed 19 former teammates and college friends of Allen from the University of Virginia. In addition to the three who said Allen used the word "******," two others who were contacted said they remember being bothered by Allen's displaying the Confederate flag in college, but said they do not remember him acting in an overtly racist manner. Seven others said they did not know Allen well outside the football team, but do not remember Allen demonstrating any racist feelings. A separate seven teammates and friends said they knew Allen well and did not believe he held racist views. "I don't believe he was insensitive," said Paul Ryczek, who played center in Allen's year before joining the Atlanta Falcons. "He had no prejudices, biases or anything else."

In the interviews, old teammates generally spoke of him highly, as a good friend, a bright and ambitious student, and a colorful character who embraced Southern culture, listened to country music, and attracted the nickname "Neck," as in redneck. "If a black guy dropped a pass, he would say something to him," said Gerard Mullins, who played defensive back in Allen's year. "If it was a white guy, same thing. It really didn't matter where you were from, who you were, or anything."

The three former teammates, however, painted a very different picture of Allen when he was around his white friends. Shelton said he feels a personal responsibility to tell what he knows about Allen's past, especially now that Allen has been mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. "I got to know Allen a little too well," Shelton said, adding that he does not believe Allen should hold elective office. "He had prejudices that were deep-seated."

Shelton said no political animosity has driven his decision to speak out. He has switched between Democratic and independent registration in recent elections, he said, and does not consider himself politically active. Four years ago, Shelton and his wife donated $1,000 to Sam Neill, the Democratic challenger to Rep. Charles Taylor, R-N.C., because Shelton said they knew Neill and were upset by the allegations of corruption against Taylor, who was reelected. In February, Shelton supported Rick Davis, a current Republican candidate for sheriff, and penned a letter to the editor in the Hendersonville Times-News backing Davis' campaign. Shelton says he does not know much about Allen's political ideology and says he hasn't spoken to him in about 30 years. "There are no personal grudges," Shelton said. "There was no falling out."

Shelton played football with Allen in the 1972 and 1973 seasons, according to the team media guides from those years. Shelton remembers Allen's attitudes about race surfacing early in their relationship. At one point, Shelton says, Allen nicknamed him "Wizard," after United Klans imperial wizard Robert Shelton. "He asked me if I was related at all," Shelton remembers. "I knew of that name, and I said absolutely not." Several former teammates confirmed that Shelton's team nickname was "Wizard," though no one contacted by Salon could confirm firsthand knowledge of the handle's origin. "Everyone called me 'Wizard' that knows me from those days," said Shelton. "My nickname stuck."

Shelton said he also remembers a disturbing deer hunting trip with Allen on land that was owned by the family of Billy Lanahan, a wide receiver on the team. After they had killed a deer, Shelton said he remembers Allen asking Lanahan where the local black residents lived. Shelton said Allen then drove the three of them to that neighborhood with the severed head of the deer. "He proceeded to take the doe's head and stuff it into a mailbox," Shelton said.

Lanahan, a former resident of Richmond, Va., died this year at the age of 53, said his aunt Martha Belle Chisholm of Richmond. In an interview on Thursday, Chisholm said that she remembered Lanahan speaking highly of Allen. "Bill was very complimentary of George Allen," she said. "He said he was just one of the boys." Chisholm also confirmed that the Lanahan family owned hunting land near Bumpass, Va., about 50 miles east of the University of Virginia campus.

Allen, a college quarterback, arrived at Virginia in 1971 as a sophomore transfer from the University of California at Los Angeles, where he had a football scholarship after graduating from nearby Palos Verdes High School. He relocated to Virginia around the same time that his father, also named George Allen, took a job as the head coach of the Washington Redskins. At the time of his arrival, race relations at the University of Virginia were delicate. Allen's graduating class was the first to offer scholarships to black athletes, and included the first four black players on the football team and the first black starting quarterback, Harrison Davis, who did not return calls from Salon.

Accusations of racial insensitivity have long dogged Allen's political career. As a member of the Virginia Legislature, Allen opposed a state holiday honoring Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. As Virginia's governor, Allen issued a proclamation honoring Confederate History Month that contained no mention of slavery. In recent years, however, Allen has made a point to reach out to minority communities, sponsoring legislation to fund historically black colleges and a resolution to condemn the lynching of blacks in the South. In a New Republic article by Ryan Lizza earlier this year, Allen discussed a "civil rights pilgrimage" he had taken to Birmingham, Ala., in 2003. "I wish I had [gone] sooner," the magazine quotes Allen saying. "I was listening to the old civil-rights movement, the strategies, the foundations, the tactics."

Several of Allen's teammates remember him arriving at the University of Virginia in 1971 with long sandy blond hair and surfer stories of the Pacific Ocean. "He was a Californian," remembers Craig Critchley, a family doctor in Ohio who played linebacker in Allen's year, and did not remember the senator displaying racial views. "It was like, 'Wow, man, yeah.'"

Shelton last remembers speaking with Allen in the mid-1970s, in Charlottesville, when Allen, then in law school, played with Shelton, who was in medical school, in an inter-city football league. For Shelton, the memories of Allen's behavior during his football days raise clear questions about the senator's fitness for office. "I just think that someone who attains that level of higher office needs to have higher standards," Shelton said. "He has deep-seated core values that are hard to reverse despite what he says."

By contrast, Allen has pointed to a different lesson from his days of football playing in recent public statements. On "Meet the Press," he said his football career was an experience that taught him racial tolerance. "I grew up in a football family, as you well know, and my parents and those teams taught me a lot," Allen said on the program. "And one of the things that you learn in football is that you don't care about someone's race or ethnicity or religion."

-- By Michael Scherer

Link (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/09/24/allen_football/index.html?source=rss)

LoungeMachine
09-25-2006, 09:32 AM
Now ELVIS will have as much reason to love this asshole as WarPIG does.....

DEMON CUNT
10-29-2006, 03:43 PM
Allen/Webb update on Fox & Fiends.

Who is refusing to relase any info on some old arrest warrants?

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LoungeMachine
10-29-2006, 03:46 PM
I'm just glad FOX got the D and the R under the right guys' names this times.....

Baby steps....

MERRYKISSMASS2U
10-29-2006, 03:52 PM
Isn't it funny that макака in Russian means monkey?

And I assure you, it´s not obscure.


Search Google Images for макаки.

MERRYKISSMASS2U
10-29-2006, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by FORD
apologized to the student, saying that he made up the word, and did not know its other meanings.



What a complete CROCK OF BULLSHIT!

ULTRAMAN VH
10-29-2006, 04:45 PM
Oh this isn't a bullshit op-ed thread. Guess its a-okay when it involves the bashing of a Conservative, here at the Far Left Frontline.

DEMON CUNT
10-29-2006, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Oh this isn't a bullshit op-ed thread. Guess its a-okay when it involves the bashing of a Conservative, here at the Far Left Frontline.

Are you sure this is an OP-ED, ULTRADOUCHE BH?

LoungeMachine
10-29-2006, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Are you sure this is an OP-ED, ULTRADOUCHE BH?


I wonder if he actually knows the difference? :confused:

MERRYKISSMASS2U
10-29-2006, 06:18 PM
How did this dude pull some Russian word out of his ass?

Answer: he didn't. He's a racist asshole who probably looked up this word and used it without thinking that *someone* around him might have understood his ass.

MERRYKISSMASS2U
10-29-2006, 06:28 PM
And that makes him look BEYOND ignorant.

knuckleboner
10-29-2006, 06:32 PM
eh...i'm not 100% that allen's that smart...

Nickdfresh
10-29-2006, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Oh this isn't a bullshit op-ed thread. Guess its a-okay when it involves the bashing of a Conservative, here at the Far Left Frontline.

It wasn't an "op-ed" dolt, it was an investigative journalism piece that was broken by "TheSmokingGun.com" I think.

There's a difference...

Nickdfresh
10-29-2006, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
How did this dude pull some Russian word out of his ass?

Answer: he didn't. He's a racist asshole who probably looked up this word and used it without thinking that *someone* around him might have understood his ass.

It's not Russian, it's a derogatory, racist colonial French term meant to treat the natives of the lands they controlled in Africa to be subhumans.

Allen's ancestors were French Jews in colonial North Africa prior to, and during WWII. He probably learned the term from his mother...

MERRYKISSMASS2U
10-29-2006, 07:11 PM
Maybe so, but макака definitely means Monkey.

Nickdfresh
10-29-2006, 07:24 PM
I'm sure it does, the Russians probably adopted the word from French, since I doubt there are many Macaca monkeys in Siberia, or the former possessions of Imperial Russia. French was at one time the Tsar's court language though...

MERRYKISSMASS2U
10-29-2006, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I'm sure it does, the Russians probably adopted the word from French, since I doubt there are many Macaca monkeys in Siberia, or the former possessions of Imperial Russia. French was at one time the Tsar's court language though...

Yep, isn't it amazing how cultures and ideas spread?

No wonder English has such a huge vocabulary.

Another word for monkey = обезьяна

I forgot where the stress position is though.

It's pronounced something like Obezyana. I think it's on the first letter.

DEMON CUNT
11-01-2006, 12:35 AM
There's more!

Video @ Crooks and Liars: Allen Supporters Rough Up Some Dude! (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/31/allens-response-over-assault-things-like-that-happen/)

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/mikestark-attacked.jpg

And he's pressing charges!

Ha ha!

The guy asked Allen "Senator, did you spit on your first wife? (http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/10/2008-presidential-contender-once-spit.html)"

Fantastic shit, yo!

And what about those old arrest warrants?

Is Warhammy Hagar still an Allen supporter? Maybe could shed some light if only he'd show his cowardly self around here.

BigBadBrian
11-01-2006, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
It wasn't an "op-ed" dolt, it was an investigative journalism piece that was broken by "TheSmokingGun.com" I think.

There's a difference...

Yeah, as long as it promotes the liberal cause, it's not an op-ed.

It's an OP- ED, you dumbasses!!!

FORD
11-01-2006, 10:57 AM
No it isn't.

BITEYOASS
11-01-2006, 11:30 AM
Jim Webb is really gonna beat the shit out of Allen at the polls. I doubt Allen can beat a Marine platoon leader in Vietnam who was the Secretary of the Navy during the REAGAN ADMINISTRATION! That's right neo-cons, who the hell was it that got a god damn 300 ship Navy and helped bring the gipper bring the USSR to their knees? Now that's a great fuckin achievement I might add. :D

4moreyears
11-01-2006, 12:09 PM
Funny when George Allen says something he is crucified here. When John Kerry says something he was taken out of context.

kennyboy
11-01-2006, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Funny when George Allen says something he is crucified here. When John Kerry says something he was taken out of context.

You can't tell the difference? What a conservative dumbass!

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You must are pretty elated to have something like Kerry's stupid comment to talk about. Enjoy, because it probably won't last long.

Meanwhile 101 soldiers were killed in Iraq last month and you still want to stay the course.

Talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

I forget... What office is Kerry currently running for?

4moreyears
11-01-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by kennyboy
Y
Meanwhile 101 soldiers were killed in Iraq last month and you still want to stay the course.


I would love for you to find a quote from me where I said that recently. Good Luck dumbass because I never said that.

ODShowtime
11-01-2006, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Oh this isn't a bullshit op-ed thread. Guess its a-okay when it involves the bashing of a Conservative, here at the Far Left Frontline.


I want to make something very clear to you.

You're an idiot and no one cares what you think.

ODShowtime
11-01-2006, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Yeah, as long as it promotes the liberal cause, it's not an op-ed.

It's an OP- ED, you dumbasses!!!

And I'm fed up with your pussy-ass cry-baby bullshit.

Don't you have a real life to attend to ever? You care WAY too much about the "rules" around here and how you can break them.

It's pathetic.

Nickdfresh
11-01-2006, 09:36 PM
Yeah, and BigCryin'Brain also can't fathom that it was an online news story broken by an investigative journalist.

How was exposing the fact that Allen enjoyed using the word "******" in college in any way an "opinion" piece?

ODShowtime
11-01-2006, 10:50 PM
Nick, sometimes you just have to say

"no, it isn't"

what else is there to say?

BigBadBrian
11-02-2006, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
And I'm fed up with your pussy-ass cry-baby bullshit.

Don't you have a real life to attend to ever? You care WAY too much about the "rules" around here and how you can break them.

It's pathetic.

What you're really tired of, Mr Shortbus, is me bitch-slappin' you liberals all of the time.

That, and daring to have a different point of view than you libs. You guys have never been able to stomach that.

Now, run along and play hop-scotch with the other little girls.

:gulp:

BigBadBrian
11-02-2006, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by BITEYOASS
Jim Webb is really gonna beat the shit out of Allen at the polls. I doubt Allen can beat a Marine platoon leader in Vietnam who was the Secretary of the Navy during the REAGAN ADMINISTRATION! That's right neo-cons, who the hell was it that got a god damn 300 ship Navy and helped bring the gipper bring the USSR to their knees? Now that's a great fuckin achievement I might add. :D

Please do a little research before you post. Your post above makes no sense.

Webb had very little to do with helping to bring the USSR "to their knees."

For the record, Webb resigned as SecNav (after serving a whopping 10 months) when everyone in the country, particularly Democrats, wanted the goal of a 600 ship Navy scrapped. The Navy had some 400 ships in the inventory at the time.

:cool:

DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by kennyboy
I forget... What office is Kerry currently running for?

Oh no...its K-k-k-ken...he's k-k-k-koming to k-k-k-kill us!

What an assclown that chump is!



Kerry Retreats From Campaign Duty


Thrust into the midst of the midterm election campaign, Sen. John Kerry retreated under fire on Wednesday, canceling public appearances as Democrats and Republicans alike demanded an apology for remarks deemed insulting to U.S. forces in Iraq.


Six days before the election, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee said he was "sorry about a botched joke" about President Bush. He heaped praise on the troops, adamantly accused Republicans of twisting his words and said it was the commander in chief and his aides who "owe America an apology for this disaster in Iraq."


Democrats cringed, though, at the prospect of the Massachusetts senator becoming the face of the party for the second consecutive national campaign. "No one wants to have the 2004 election replayed," said Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.


Party leaders privately urged Kerry to lower his public profile, according to several officials. Congressional candidates in Iowa and Minnesota said they no longer wanted him to appear at their scheduled rallies. "Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said. He needs to apologize to our troops," said Rep. Harold Ford Jr., locked in a close Senate race in Tennessee.

With Bush showing the way, Republicans worked energetically to turn Kerry into an all-purpose target in a campaign that has long loomed as a loser for the GOP - much as they ridiculed him two years ago on their way to electoral gains.


"Anybody who is in a position to serve this country ought to understand the consequences of words. ... We've got incredible people in our military, and they deserve full praise and full support of this government," Bush said in an interview with conservative talk-radio personality Rush Limbaugh.

"Of course, now Senator Kerry says he was just making a joke, and he botched it up," Vice President Dick Cheney said in remarks prepared for a campaign appearance in Montana. "I guess we didn't get the nuance. He was for the joke before he was against it."

The jab was designed to recall Kerry's inartful comment from the last election that he had voted for $87 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan before he voted against it.

Kerry stirred controversy when he told a group of California students two days ago that individuals who don't study hard and do their homework would likely "get stuck in Iraq." Aides said the senator had mistakenly dropped one word from his prepared remarks, which was originally written to say "you end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq." In that context, they said, it was clear Kerry was referring to Bush, not to the troops.

The controversy erupted at a time Democrats were growing increasingly confident of winning a majority of the House in next week's elections, and achieving significant gains in the Senate, if not outright control.

Democrats need to gain 15 House seats and six Senate seats to prevail, and victory in either house would allow them to serve as a check on Bush's conservative agenda for the final two years of his administration.

Democrats have privately told outsiders they have locked up 10 of the 15 GOP-held seats they need. Polls indicate several dozen additional races are competitive, far more than appeared possible at the outset of the campaign, and too many for Republican comfort at a time of opposition to the war and low presidential approval ratings at home. By contrast, only two or three Democratic-held seats remained competitive, according to strategists in both parties, meaning Republicans have little ability to offset gains they suffer on their own turf.

In the Senate, Democrats claim they are on track to defeat four Republican incumbents, including Sens. Mike DeWine in Ohio, Rick Santorum in Pennsylvania, Lincoln Chafee in Rhode Island and Conrad Burns in Montana. Republicans tacitly concede DeWine and Santorum appear headed for defeat, but the party's senatorial committee has launched television commercials in the campaign's final week in an attempt to save Chafee and Burns.

Barring a dramatic shift in opinion in the campaign's final days, that leaves only a handful of races in significant doubt, principally three Republican-held seats in Tennessee, Missouri and Virginia.

Unlike 2004, when Bush rallied the country to his side by asking "who do you trust" in wartime, public opinion polls now show the conflict in Iraq is unpopular. Increasingly, Republican candidates have found it politically necessary to emphasize their differences with Bush on a struggle that has dragged on for nearly four years and cost more than 2,800 American lives.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee unveiled a web video during the day, hoping to turn discontent with the war into opposition to Republican lawmakers who have backed the president. Bill Burton, a spokesman, said it would air on cable television nationally, although he provided no details.

The ad features scenes of carnage and an ominous soundtrack, while the announcer says, "With the White House in denial, while top generals warning that Iraq might be sliding into a full scale civil war, tell Congress it's long past time to put down their rubber stamp and ask the hard questions about Iraq."

Democratic officials said the leaders of the party's campaign committees had relayed word to Kerry for him to avoid becoming a distraction. Aides to Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., chairmen of the Senate and House campaign committees, said they would not comment on any possible telephone conversations that had occurred.

In an appearance on the radio program "Imus in the Morning," Kerry said he had decided to scrap several public appearances "because I don't want to be a distraction to these campaigns." He canceled a planned appearance in Philadelphia, as well as Iowa and Minnesota, and backed out of at least two network television interviews.


© 2006 Associated Press.

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Why is K-k-k-Kerry K-k-k-kancelling his k-k-k-kampaigning????


pwn3d!

Nickdfresh
11-02-2006, 11:02 AM
Oh, look at AssVibe spam the board with about 12-articles that say exactly the same thing.

How quint!

DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 11:20 AM
Yeah...whatever.