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LoungeMachine
10-23-2006, 11:25 PM
Obama Offers More Variations From the Norm


By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
Published: October 24, 2006

PHOENIX, Oct. 23 — Senator Barack Obama, the Illinois Democrat who said Sunday that he was considering running for president in 2008, created a little sunlight on Monday between himself and both Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

For one thing, he said that as a youth he had inhaled.

“When I was a kid, I inhaled,” Mr. Obama said here to an audience of magazine editors. “That was the point.”

The direct admission was in contrast to Mr. Clinton’s denial in his 1992 campaign for president that he had smoked marijuana.

“I didn’t inhale,” Mr. Clinton said, cementing the idea that he liked to have things both ways.

Mr. Obama had written in his first book, “Dreams From My Father” (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine (“maybe a little blow”). He said he had not tried heroin because he did not like the pusher who was trying to sell it to him.

In an interview here on Monday conducted by David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker, at a meeting of the American Society of Magazine Editors, Mr. Obama said he was not making light of the subject.

“It was reflective of the struggles and confusion of a teenage boy,” he said. “Teenage boys are frequently confused.”

Since Mr. Clinton’s statement, the question of drug use has become a standard one for politicians, sometimes as a test of their ability to be straightforward. If the politician has used drugs, conventional wisdom says it is best to try to get the question out of the way early.

Mr. Remnick also asked Mr. Obama for his views about Mrs. Clinton, the New York Democrat who has been a dominant figure in discussions about potential presidential candidates in 2008. Mr. Obama praised her but made clear that he did not agree with her vote for the Iraq war.

“I think very highly of Hillary,” he said. “The more I get to know her, the more I admire her. I think she’s one of the most disciplined people I know. She’s one of the toughest. She’s got an extraordinary intelligence, and she’s somebody who’s in this stuff for the right reasons. She’s passionate about moving the country forward on issues like health care and children.”

But, he said, they clearly had “different assessments” about the wisdom of going to war in Iraq. Perhaps mindful that he could end up as her vice-presidential running mate, he added that he had it easier because he was not in the Senate at the time, while she had to vote.

Asked how he might campaign against her in a primary, he said he had not thought about that.

But he did sound like a candidate in criticizing the Bush administration in somewhat stronger terms than he has in the past. He called it “the most ideologically driven administration in my memory” and said it was “obstinate in resisting facts,” as well as dissent and compromise.

“This administration has done great damage to this country,” he said, citing the Iraq war as the chief reason.

LoungeMachine
10-23-2006, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine



Mr. Obama had written in his first book, “Dreams From My Father” (1995), before entering politics, that he had used marijuana and cocaine (“maybe a little blow”).


Gee, George......

at least he admits it:cool:

FORD
10-23-2006, 11:53 PM
The media is pushing this guy really hard for some reason. Given the current state of the media, that naturally makes me suspicious.

Obama's a great speaker, but if that qualified you to be President, Ronald Reagan would have been one of the greatest Presidents in history.

And no he wasn't. Not by a long shot.

I don't see a young guy with less than a full term in the Senate walking in to the White House in 2008.

And as much as it makes me fucking sick to have to admit this in the 21st century, I don't think this country's ready for a Black President yet. Certainly not one with a name that's only one letter removed from "you-know-who", and in fact has Muslim relatives. None of that shit makes a damn bit of difference to me, but it will to far too many.

President Obama? Maybe someday, but not in 2008. Let's see how he grows as a Senator and a statesman and maybe he will be the one to overcome the fictional "color barrier".

LoungeMachine
10-24-2006, 12:34 AM
I agree.....

and said so in another thread....

But you just KNOW the Cons in here are going to rip on him as the next Dem-nom-to-be......

I'd just like to not see a Barack-a-thon ala Howard Dean last year....

Dr. Love
10-24-2006, 01:12 AM
He reminds me of a goa'uld... can't put my finger on which one.

LoungeMachine
10-24-2006, 01:22 AM
a Wha???


I'll google it.....

LoungeMachine
10-24-2006, 01:24 AM
History
In 8000 B.C., the Goa'uld were a dying race. They infested the native Unas and learned on how to activate the Stargate.



From Wiki......

****geek alert*******

sadaist
10-24-2006, 01:32 AM
I don't understand the hype around this guy. The media is calling him the Democrats "Rock Star". The hype was huge even before he won his first term. What exactly has he done? Wrote a book or two, 2 years in office with much of that time on talk shows and interviews, and now spending much time campaigning for other Dems. Has he actually done any work he was elected to do?

Dr. Love
10-24-2006, 01:35 AM
He's black and he's apparently not angry at white people. Isn't that enough?

Nickdfresh
10-24-2006, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by sadaist
I don't understand the hype around this guy. The media is calling him the Democrats "Rock Star". The hype was huge even before he won his first term. What exactly has he done? Wrote a book or two, 2 years in office with much of that time on talk shows and interviews, and now spending much time campaigning for other Dems. Has he actually done any work he was elected to do?

Did you ask that same question when Bush was anointed by the RNC?

And what is a guy in the minority party supposed to achieve?

FORD
10-24-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Did you ask that same question when Bush was anointed by the RNC?



Of course not. His name was "George Bush" and that's as far as his qualifications had to go.

They actually would nominate someone like Warpig's hero, Senator Macacawitz, if he hadn't thoroughly embarrassed himself to a level that might actually exceed Candidate Chimpy in 1999 - 2000.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
10-24-2006, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by sadaist
I don't understand the hype around this guy. The media is calling him the Democrats "Rock Star". The hype was huge even before he won his first term. What exactly has he done? Wrote a book or two, 2 years in office with much of that time on talk shows and interviews, and now spending much time campaigning for other Dems. Has he actually done any work he was elected to do?

And will hanging around for another 6 years, casting another thousand votes and turning himself into a windbag like Biden make a bit of difference? He's expressed his positions on key issues

I say we make this Iraq Osama president STAT!!!

EAT MY ASSHOLE
10-24-2006, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Senator Macacawitz,

Wow, not too much veiled anti-semitism there. As I recall you were all for Allen before he and the world learned he's a dirty jew.

FORD
10-24-2006, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Wow, not too much veiled anti-semitism there. As I recall you were all for Allen before he and the world learned he's a dirty jew.

Uh, I got that name from YOU, turtle-fucker :D

And I was only "for" Allen because he's dumber than Chimpy and not even Republicans would vote for him.

Now go to the underground and watch your porn......

EAT MY ASSHOLE
10-24-2006, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Uh, I got that name from YOU, turtle-fucker :D

And I was only "for" Allen because he's dumber than Chimpy and not even Republicans would vote for him.

Now go to the underground and watch your porn......

Were you ever "for" Allen??? I was completely bullshitting!!! Oh, that's rich!!! I'm friggin' laughing out loud with this one!!

(Did I invent that name? Macacawitz? That's actually pretty good...I'm gonna have to copyright that)

FORD
10-24-2006, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE

(Did I invent that name? Macacawitz? That's actually pretty good...I'm gonna have to copyright that)

Too late. Sam Seder on Air America is already using it. BTW he's Jewish, so your "anti-semite" accusations probably won't work there.

Nickdfresh
10-24-2006, 02:27 PM
I really like this cat, but I think 2008 is too soon.