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blueturk
10-24-2006, 07:08 PM
I'll be damned! All of a sudden BushCo has a great plan to start getting us out of Iraq! And right before the elections! And if enough people fall for this shit, maybe the GOP can maintain control!

Analysis: A one year plan for U.S. in Iraq
By PAMELA HESS
UPI Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 (UPI) -- The top two U.S. officials in Iraq predicted Tuesday that within a year, Iraq would be well on its way to political stability and economic health. Within 18 months, it should be able to provide for its own security, paving the way for the withdrawal of a large number of U.S. troops.

"Assuming that the Iraqi leaders deliver on the commitments that they have made -- and I don't have any reason to doubt that ... I believe that Iraq will make significant progress in the coming 12 months," said U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad in a rare joint press conference with Gen. George Casey, the commander of the U.S.-led coalition formally known as Multi-National Forces -- Iraq.

"It's going to take another 12 to 18 months or so till I believe the Iraqi security forces are completely capable of taking over responsibility for their own security; still probably with some level of support from us, but that will be directly asked for by the Iraqis," Casey said.

"If the political leadership of Iraq can come together and resolve the basic issues that are dividing them, I believe we can make good progress on the security front, and that coupled with the already good progress with the Iraqi security forces, I think, can put Iraq in a very good place in 12 months."

The press conference came two weeks before a mid-term congressional election that will hinge on public opinion about the Iraq war, and a week after a U.S. military spokesman provided a grim assessment of the four-month-long battle for Baghdad.

It also comes as the Pentagon and White House try to adjust their strategy in Iraq, fighting a counterinsurgency while trying to both pressure and help the Iraqi government to solve the political issues that perpetuate the sectarian divisions in Iraq.

After years of insisting that a timeline for withdrawal would only encourage insurgents and Al-Qaida to continue their fight, Pentagon officials have privately shifted their thinking slightly to embrace timelines for achievement. They explain that in 2005 and 2006, there were three timelines that drove the Iraqi people - interim elections, a constitutional referendum, and then national elections. Each of these dates served a forcing function -- troops had to be ready for election security, the constitution had to be written, political parties had to be formed.

Without external timelines now in Iraq, the hard work of compromise, governance, and the provision of basic services has languished, they believe.

To that end, Khalilzad and Casey introduced the notion that the Iraqi government has been put on a timetable to determine how oil will be shared, to amend the constitution to incorporate Sunni concerns, to change the punishing de-Baathification program into a reconciliation program, to disarm militias and death squads, set a date for provincial elections, and continue to improve their security forces.

"Despite the difficult challenges we face, success in Iraq is possible and can be achieved on a realistic timetable. Iraqi leaders must step up to achieve key political and security milestones on which they have agreed," Khalilzad said.

Khalilzad did not say what the United States would do if the Iraqi government failed to meet the benchmarks on time.

But the consequences of failure in Iraq are high, Khalilzad said.

"More than Iraq is at stake. The broader Middle East is the source of most of the world's security problems, as was Europe in previous centuries," Khalilzad said. "This is the defining challenge of our era. The struggle for the future of the region is between moderates and extremist political forces. The outcome in Iraq will profoundly shape this wider struggle, and in turn, the security of the world."

Casey left open the possibility that the United States could send more troops to Iraq, but said the real issue is political progress.

"Do we need more troops to do that? Maybe. And as I've said all along, if we do, I will ask for the troops I need, both coalition and Iraqi. But I think it's important for all of us to understand right now that we're not going to have total security here in Baghdad until the major political issues that are dividing the country are resolved," he said.

Casey acknowledged the continued problem with Iraq's national police. An entire brigade was taken off duty for retraining in October when they were found to have kidnapped and killed Sunnis from a meat packing plant. Over the next year all the national police brigades will undergo a similar three-week training program, to rid them of death squad members and reinforce human rights training.

"We still have to get at the loyalty issue with them, and that's something the minister and us are working very closely on," Casey said. "Our intent is to work with the ministry to actually change the composition and ethos of these forces."

One of the key players in sectarian fighting is the militia loyal to the Shi'ite cleric Muqtada Sadr. Khalilzad said Prime Minster Nouri Al-Maliki believes Sadr has disavowed the militia and now wants its disarmament, and that he supports the Iraqi government.

"We just need to test that with implementation," Khalilzad said.

http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20061024-011645-2802r

LoungeMachine
10-24-2006, 07:30 PM
Stay The Course, dammit !!!!!!!

LMMFAO


How predictable

ODShowtime
10-24-2006, 07:42 PM
gw&friends are like my lazy-ass ex-roommate.

Once you finally bitch at him enough, he'll go ahead and do a small token chore to clean up the huge, disgusting messes he always created.

blueturk
10-24-2006, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
gw&friends are like my lazy-ass ex-roommate.

Once you finally bitch at him enough, he'll go ahead and do a small token chore to clean up the huge, disgusting messes he always created.

So did your ex-roomie find a bunch of dumb fucks who let him get away with that stupid shit and supported him while he did it?

sadaist
10-24-2006, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by blueturk

The press conference came two weeks before a mid-term congressional election that will hinge on public opinion about the Iraq war...



I thought the election hinged on public opinion about a gay congressman...

I mean stem cell research...

or wether or not Pelosi is going to impeach...

what about gay marriage...

then there's Diebold voting machines...

don't forget immigrants scared from voting...

and the biggest one, a Simpson's episode...



2 weeks remain and the list goes on.

blueturk
10-24-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by sadaist
I thought the election hinged on public opinion about a gay congressman...

I mean stem cell research...

or wether or not Pelosi is going to impeach...

what about gay marriage...

then there's Diebold voting machines...

don't forget immigrants scared from voting...

and the biggest one, a Simpson's episode...



You thought wrong.

ODShowtime
10-24-2006, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by blueturk
So did your ex-roomie find a bunch of dumb fucks who let him get away with that stupid shit and supported him while he did it?

Yeah, his parents! I don't play that shit.

ODShowtime
10-24-2006, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by sadaist
I thought the election hinged on public opinion about a gay congressman...

I mean stem cell research...

or wether or not Pelosi is going to impeach...

what about gay marriage...

then there's Diebold voting machines...

don't forget immigrants scared from voting...

and the biggest one, a Simpson's episode...



2 weeks remain and the list goes on.


What's your point? Seriously, I have no idea! :confused:

If your point is that the repubs are fucking up big time, I'm with ya!

LoungeMachine
10-24-2006, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by sadaist
I thought


All evidence to the contrary.....

LoungeMachine
10-24-2006, 10:15 PM
BUSHCO SETS ARTIFICIAL TIMETABLE TO CUNT-N-RUN



US in Iraq: We're out of here

America signals dramatic shift in strategy, saying Iraq will assume responsibility for security in '12 to 18 months'

By Rupert Cornwell in Washington and Colin Brown
Published: 25 October 2006

In the firmest indication yet of a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, America's most senior general there and its top civilian official have drawn the outlines of a political and military plan that could see a substantial pullout of US troops within 12 to 18 months.

Yesterday's announcement looked like a strategy change carrying implications for British troops in Iraq, although President Bush's aides deny any "dramatic shifts" in policy. It came after Mr Bush's spokesman acknowledged on Monday that the President had cut and run from his signature promise that America would "stay the course" in Iraq.

In a joint press conference in Baghdad, Zalmay Khalilzad, the US ambassador, laid out a series of political steps that he claimed had been agreed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, including a crackdown on militias, a peace offer to insurgents and a plan for sharing oil revenues. The measures, to be taken over the next year, would amount to a new "national compact" between the Iraqi factions, he said. At the same time, General George Casey, the US commander in Iraq, said the training of Iraqi security forces - essential for any orderly US departure - was 75 per cent complete. Within 12 to 18 months, he said, they would emerge as "the dominant force in Iraq", even though some residual US military presence would be needed (as President Bush himself has indicated).

The rare joint press conference took place amid deepening political turmoil in Washington, where leading members of Mr Bush's own Republican party are demanding a radical rethink of US strategy in Iraq. They argue that current policies have all but failed, as sectarian and anti-American violence threaten to overwhelm the country.

Coming after the White House formally abandoned Mr Bush's previous "stay the course" formulation for US policy, the appearance by Mr Khalilzad and General Casey seemed part of a carefully choreographed exercise to signal, without explicitly saying so, that a timetable for pull-out - long rejected by the President - was in fact taking shape.

The clear purpose was twofold: to reassure voters a fortnight before mid-term elections that the administration had a workable policy for Iraq and that, all appearances to the contrary, that policy was achieving some success. Though 90 US troops have been killed this month, and Iraqi civilian deaths are running at 100 a day or more, General Casey maintained that 90 per cent of the attacks were occurring within a 30-mile radius of Baghdad.

But even he acknowledged the timetable was at the mercy of events on the ground, which Washington was largely powerless to shape. American troop levels might actually have to be increased to cope with the continuing violence in Baghdad, where a return to order is vital if the country is to be stabilised.

Tony Blair, in step with US policy, reassured the Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister, Barham Salih, on Monday that the UK would not "cut and run" from Iraq.

The Prime Minister will face a challenge today from backbench MPs who have scheduled a debate on the Iraq exit strategy. But it will not enable MPs to vote on the issue. "We had a debate and a vote to take us into Iraq. We should have one now to take us out," said one Labour MP.

Adam Ingram, the Armed Forces minister, is expected to repeat the Prime Minister's insistence that British troops will stay "until the job is done".

Mr Khalilzad offered no certainty of a political settlement, and mentioned no timetable for disarming the Shia militias. This is the issue which could tear asunder Mr Maliki's government, some of whose members have ties with the largest of the militias.

Instead, Mr Khalilzad outlined a series of steps to be taken within "the coming weeks", including a law on dividing oil revenues, action to achieve "reconciliation" with discontented Sunni Muslims and former Baathists, and a firm date for provincial elections.

But neither the ambassador nor General Casey made clear what might happen if the Iraqi government and the emerging security forces did not live up to US expectations. On both scores, there are strong doubts.

Washington has not disguised its frustration with Mr Maliki's government and its refusal to confront the militias. And it is only eight months since the Pentagon was forced to admit that the only Iraqi battalion deemed capable of fighting on its own had been reclassified as needing the back-up of US forces.

John Pike, the director of the Washington-based studies group Global Security.Org, said: "I think they are saying that Americans are going to be there for 18 more months, but we can start to draw that number down before the next presidential election."

But pressures for a significant pull-out much sooner are intensifying. Iraq threatens to drag Republicans to humiliating defeat at the 7 November elections, while Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina has become the latest senior Republican to turn on the White House. He said yesterday: "We're on the verge of chaos."

A poll shows more than two-thirds of Americans think the war was a mistake. A mere 20 per cent believe the US is winning, compared to 40 per cent 12 months ago. In an editorial yesterday, The New York Times said Iraq could become "the worst foreign policy debacle in American history". Stressing what was at stake, Mr Khalilzad called Iraq "the defining challenge of our era" which would "profoundly shape... the future of the world."

A changing message

'The US and our allies have prevailed. Now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country'

President Bush, 1 May 2003

'We must stay the course, because the end result is in our interest'

President Bush, 13 April 2004

'This is not "stay the course" but constant motion '

Bush spokesman, 23 October 2004

'This violence is going to go on for a long time'

Stephen Hadley, US National Security Adviser, yesterday

In the firmest indication yet of a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, America's most senior general there and its top civilian official have drawn the outlines of a political and military plan that could see a substantial pullout of US troops within 12 to 18 months.

Yesterday's announcement looked like a strategy change carrying implications for British troops in Iraq, although President Bush's aides deny any "dramatic shifts" in policy. It came after Mr Bush's spokesman acknowledged on Monday that the President had cut and run from his signature promise that America would "stay the course" in Iraq.

In a joint press conference in Baghdad, Zalmay Khalilzad, the US ambassador, laid out a series of political steps that he claimed had been agreed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, including a crackdown on militias, a peace offer to insurgents and a plan for sharing oil revenues. The measures, to be taken over the next year, would amount to a new "national compact" between the Iraqi factions, he said. At the same time, General George Casey, the US commander in Iraq, said the training of Iraqi security forces - essential for any orderly US departure - was 75 per cent complete. Within 12 to 18 months, he said, they would emerge as "the dominant force in Iraq", even though some residual US military presence would be needed (as President Bush himself has indicated).

The rare joint press conference took place amid deepening political turmoil in Washington, where leading members of Mr Bush's own Republican party are demanding a radical rethink of US strategy in Iraq. They argue that current policies have all but failed, as sectarian and anti-American violence threaten to overwhelm the country.

Coming after the White House formally abandoned Mr Bush's previous "stay the course" formulation for US policy, the appearance by Mr Khalilzad and General Casey seemed part of a carefully choreographed exercise to signal, without explicitly saying so, that a timetable for pull-out - long rejected by the President - was in fact taking shape.

The clear purpose was twofold: to reassure voters a fortnight before mid-term elections that the administration had a workable policy for Iraq and that, all appearances to the contrary, that policy was achieving some success. Though 90 US troops have been killed this month, and Iraqi civilian deaths are running at 100 a day or more, General Casey maintained that 90 per cent of the attacks were occurring within a 30-mile radius of Baghdad.

But even he acknowledged the timetable was at the mercy of events on the ground, which Washington was largely powerless to shape. American troop levels might actually have to be increased to cope with the continuing violence in Baghdad, where a return to order is vital if the country is to be stabilised.

Tony Blair, in step with US policy, reassured the Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister, Barham Salih, on Monday that the UK would not "cut and run" from Iraq.

The Prime Minister will face a challenge today from backbench MPs who have scheduled a debate on the Iraq exit strategy. But it will not enable MPs to vote on the issue. "We had a debate and a vote to take us into Iraq. We should have one now to take us out," said one Labour MP.
Adam Ingram, the Armed Forces minister, is expected to repeat the Prime Minister's insistence that British troops will stay "until the job is done".

Mr Khalilzad offered no certainty of a political settlement, and mentioned no timetable for disarming the Shia militias. This is the issue which could tear asunder Mr Maliki's government, some of whose members have ties with the largest of the militias.

Instead, Mr Khalilzad outlined a series of steps to be taken within "the coming weeks", including a law on dividing oil revenues, action to achieve "reconciliation" with discontented Sunni Muslims and former Baathists, and a firm date for provincial elections.

But neither the ambassador nor General Casey made clear what might happen if the Iraqi government and the emerging security forces did not live up to US expectations. On both scores, there are strong doubts.

Washington has not disguised its frustration with Mr Maliki's government and its refusal to confront the militias. And it is only eight months since the Pentagon was forced to admit that the only Iraqi battalion deemed capable of fighting on its own had been reclassified as needing the back-up of US forces.

John Pike, the director of the Washington-based studies group Global Security.Org, said: "I think they are saying that Americans are going to be there for 18 more months, but we can start to draw that number down before the next presidential election."

But pressures for a significant pull-out much sooner are intensifying. Iraq threatens to drag Republicans to humiliating defeat at the 7 November elections, while Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina has become the latest senior Republican to turn on the White House. He said yesterday: "We're on the verge of chaos."

A poll shows more than two-thirds of Americans think the war was a mistake. A mere 20 per cent believe the US is winning, compared to 40 per cent 12 months ago. In an editorial yesterday, The New York Times said Iraq could become "the worst foreign policy debacle in American history". Stressing what was at stake, Mr Khalilzad called Iraq "the defining challenge of our era" which would "profoundly shape... the future of the world."

A changing message

'The US and our allies have prevailed. Now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country'

President Bush, 1 May 2003

'We must stay the course, because the end result is in our interest'

President Bush, 13 April 2004

'This is not "stay the course" but constant motion '

Bush spokesman, 23 October 2004

'This violence is going to go on for a long time'

Stephen Hadley, US National Security Adviser, yesterday

Nickdfresh
10-24-2006, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by sadaist
I thought the election hinged on public opinion about a gay congressman...

I mean stem cell research...

or wether or not Pelosi is going to impeach...

what about gay marriage...

then there's Diebold voting machines...

don't forget immigrants scared from voting...

and the biggest one, a Simpson's episode...



2 weeks remain and the list goes on.

You forgot Republicans that hide boy-touchin' pedophiles, and massive corruption from one of the laziest most corrupt congresses in modern history. Which is apparently what you stand for.

Nice "talking points" though.