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Ellyllions
11-01-2006, 10:42 AM
One major aspect of the Democratic party that caused me to change my voter registration was the lack of personal responsiblity in their thinking overall.

In my opinion, the worst part of any politicians mindset is when they try to convince people that what's happened to them is someone else's fault. Much like attorneys.

This is also what makes Mr. Bush NOT a true conservative to most Republicans because he fails to admit personal responsiblity.

So...let's add some personal responsiblity to Mr. Kerry's latest tongue-fuckup and see how this could've all been avoided.

Mr Kerry said:
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Well......he could've said:
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, Mr. Bush will try to stick you in Iraq.”

or
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. Mr. Bush would like to convince you that enlisting in the military is an option because Mr. Bush would like to stick you in Iraq.”

or
“With Mr. Bush's failed education policies, even though you're told, to you make the most of it, study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. But he'd rather stick you in Iraq.”

Like it or not folks, Kerry could've made his "joke" clear. But instead he said what he said and just like Bush is refusing to accept responsiblity for his actions.

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 10:44 AM
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DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 10:48 AM
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DLR'sCock
11-01-2006, 10:59 AM
The Joke was intended to be this........


“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well Mr. Bush. If you don’t, Mr. Bush, you get stuck in Iraq.”

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 11:04 AM
Instead the joke is every time JOhnKErry is on tv!!!

FORD
11-01-2006, 11:08 AM
The BCE and the mediawhores are taking this completely out of context and spinning it just like the "Dean scream".

And Judas IsKerryot isn't even on the ballot.

If you listen to the whole speech in context, it's obvious that he's referring to Chimpy.

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by FORD
If you listen to the whole speech in context, it's obvious that he's referring to Chimpy.

No its not, and judging by the responses he's getting from Veteran's organizations they heard the same speech that the rest of America heard too!

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 11:12 AM
Trust me...Hillary will be using that soundbite!

Take that to the bank!

FORD
11-01-2006, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
No its not, and judging by the responses he's getting from Veteran's organizations they heard the same speech that the rest of America heard too!

Swift Boat Liars For Rove (or whatever name they're calling themselves this week) aren't a veterans organization, they're a tool of BCE propaganda.

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 11:18 AM
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=75399

American Legion to Sen. Kerry: Apologize Now

10/31/2006 1:49:00 PM


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To: National Desk

Contact: Ramona Joyce, 202-263-2982 or 202-445-1161 (cell), Joe March, 317-630-1253 or 317-748-1926 (cell), both of the American Legion

INDIANAPOLIS, Oct. 31 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The National Commander of The American Legion called on Sen. John Kerry to apologize for suggesting that American troops in Iraq are uneducated.

"As a constituent of Senator Kerry's I am disappointed. As leader of The American Legion, I am outraged," said National Commander Paul A. Morin. "A generation ago, Sen. Kerry slandered his comrades in Vietnam by saying that they were rapists and murderers. It wasn't true then and his warped view of today's heroes isn't true now."

While addressing a group of college students at a campaign rally in Pasadena, CA., Monday, Kerry suggested that they receive an education or "if you don't, you'll get stuck in Iraq."

"While The American Legion shares the senator's appreciation for education, the troops in Iraq represent the most sophisticated, technologically superior military that the world has ever seen," Morin said. "I think there is a thing or two that they could teach most college professors and campus elitists about the way the world works.

"And while we are on the topic of education, why doesn't the senator and his comrades in Congress improve the GI Bill so all of today's military members - reserves and guard included - can achieve the educational aspirations that the senator so highly values?" Morin said. "The senator's false and outrageous attack was over-the-top and he should apologize now."

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This text and a high-resolution photograph of Commander Morin can be downloaded at http://www.legion.org

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The 2.7-million member American Legion, http://www.legion.org, is the nation's largest veterans organization.

http://www.usnewswire.com/




Ooooooooooppps!

I guess these guys don't count either?

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 11:20 AM
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm

FLASH: McCain Calls On Kerry To Apologize
Tue Oct 31 2006 11:43:14 ET

Senator Kerry owes an apology to the many thousands of Americans serving in Iraq, who answered their country's call because they are patriots and not because of any deficiencies in their education. Americans from all backgrounds, well off and less fortunate, with high school diplomas and graduate degrees, take seriously their duty to our country, and risk their lives today to defend the rest of us in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.

They all deserve our respect and deepest gratitude for their service. The suggestion that only the least educated Americans would agree to serve in the military and fight in Iraq, is an insult to every soldier serving in combat, and should deeply offend any American with an ounce of appreciation for what they suffer and risk so that the rest of us can sleep more comfortably at night. Without them, we wouldn't live in a country where people securely possess all their God-given rights, including the right to express insensitive, ill-considered and uninformed remarks.

END


I suppose this "baby killer" and "rapist" is wrong too?

WTF did YOU hear?

Ellyllions
11-01-2006, 12:36 PM
Ford, my point is that he made a fuck-up by not actually saying Bush's name. It wouldn't have been hard to just make it clear that he was referring to Bush.

But I honestly bleieve that the long lost Pet Shop Boy is one of those rich people who thinks that the military preys on the poor and uneducated in this country. Just like Belzer in the other thread.

I really believe that.

But if I'm wrong, his tongue trip is just as bad as one of the millions that Bush is guilty of...and then to refuse to apologize until today makes him even MORE like Bush.

FORD
11-01-2006, 12:42 PM
Then let Kerry explain himself.....

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fe_lung
11-01-2006, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Ellyllions
One major aspect of the Democratic party that caused me to
Like it or not folks, Kerry could've made his "joke" clear. But instead he said what he said and just like Bush is refusing to accept responsiblity for his actions.

Careful there. Critical thinking like that is sure to get you branded as a political nutjob.

For politicians the right to point fingers and lay blame must be protected at all costs!

fe_lung
11-01-2006, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Ellyllions

But I honestly bleieve that the long lost Pet Shop Boy is one of those rich people who thinks that the military preys on the poor and uneducated in this country. Just like Belzer in the other thread.



In his time (vietnam) that was often the case. I think he was trying to tease out the spectre of the draft returning.

In the ages of the draft people who weren't in school were often cannon fodder. That's much less the case with an all volunteer army. There is an argument to made that the erosion of manufacturing jobs do leave the military as the best option for many who lack a college education (medical pay, steady paycheck,all that). However, it's certainly not the only option for the undereducated. Also, (I believe) there us a much larger percentage of educated people in todays military as well.

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 12:53 PM
I did wear the uniform, and it was clear that he was goofing on the troops. The same ones that he claimed raped and murdered innocent civilians...hell, he even went so far as to say HE committed those war crimes as well!

JOhnKErry votes to send troops to war and then votes to cut their budget to wage a victorious campaign and dares to come out and claim that it was the Republicans! Oh hellz no.

He's a double speaking suit wearing politician that wants in the White House with his wife's money!

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 12:57 PM
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DLR'sCock
11-01-2006, 02:42 PM
Since you pathetic right wing nut job con pukeshave nothing going for you and this is the best you can do, you will of course ride it to the end.

How pathetic.

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 03:25 PM
Then again he could've just STFU!

He didn't...deal with it!

DLR'sCock
11-01-2006, 04:28 PM
Oh, the difference is that I KNOW he fucked up with his delivery and he should've just gone for the straight shoot against BushCo instead of attempting this lame jab against him, and we are dealing with it, but the numbers of people that know he didn't mean that and are lying through their teeth for political gain is pathetic.

Ellyllions
11-01-2006, 04:45 PM
DLRC, this won't hurt or help the upcoming election at all.

But for Dems on this board to act like what he said is all smoke and mirrors by the Reps is EXACTLY what the they accuse the Reps of doing all the time.

Point is, ALL politicians are fucking scum bags who think they're better than the people they want to vote. Doesn't matter what your last name is, if you're veying for a place in DC you're just like everyone else you point a finger at.

amadeus
11-01-2006, 04:52 PM
You libs bitch about how the Republicans are going to be "all over this" but you know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot, the libs would be doing the same thing. 'Frenchie' just apologize on the Communist News Network(CNN) and Wolf Blitzer declared that it should be over now that he apologized. Isn't it amazing that when a Reublican makes a mistake, no matter what they do or say, and even if they do apologize, it is constantly in the news and harped on by the libtards. If he would have came out yesterday and said he apologized like he did today instead of saying 'I apologize to no one'; it might have helped his cause just a little. I am giving the benefit of the doubt that today's apology wasn't politically motivated because of the damage it may have caused the Dems, but he still is a real f#$*stick!!

BigBadBrian
11-01-2006, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by FORD
The BCE and the mediawhores are taking this completely out of context and spinning it just like the "Dean scream".

And Judas IsKerryot isn't even on the ballot.

If you listen to the whole speech in context, it's obvious that he's referring to Chimpy.

Bullshit!!!!

BigBadBrian
11-01-2006, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by DLR'sCock
Since you pathetic right wing nut job con pukeshave nothing going for you and this is the best you can do, you will of course ride it to the end.

How pathetic.

Hypocrite. Oh, you're still a moron.

:gulp:

FORD
11-01-2006, 05:10 PM
Bush’s Nostalgia

The dust-up between the president and Sen. John Kerry over Iraq is a flashback to 2004. Unfortunately for the GOP, the 2006 outcome could be very different.

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Richard Wolffe and Holly Bailey
Newsweek

Updated: 9:09 a.m. PT Nov 1, 2006

Nov. 1, 2006 - There’s no fight like an old fight. And this week’s emotional exchanges between President George W. Bush and Sen. John Kerry were nothing if not old. Kerry screwed up what he called a “botched joke” about Bush’s brainpower when it comes to Iraq; Bush pounced by challenging his ex-rival’s commitment to the troops.

Memo to Bush and Kerry: neither of you are on the ballot next week. And while it may be satisfying to rehash the last election, you both run the risk of looking totally out of touch.

The risks for President Bush are greater than they are for Senator Kerry, who may have suffered the deep embarrassment of falling into a familiar self-made trap. But he leads nothing inside his party, sets no strategy and the Democrats can easily disown him—as several candidates have done by canceling events with him this week.

President Bush, on the other hand, enjoys no such luxuries. In fact, the concerted attack on Kerry—complete with White House and Republican National Committee press releases—threatens to undermine a central premise of the party’s strategy. For months on the campaign trail, GOP candidates have insisted the election isn’t a referendum on Bush or national politics; it’s a choice between two local contenders. The president may have diverted attention back onto Democrats, but he also turned the focus back on himself and the war.

Neither subject is a winning issue for GOP candidates—and that is precisely why the Bush-Kerry fracas is so outdated. Bush’s approval rating in the most recent NEWSWEEK poll stood at 37 percent—10 points lower than the last poll before the 2004 elections, and fully 33 points lower than 2002.

On the two big issues that Bush wants to debate, the political world looks nothing like 2004, as measured by NEWSWEEK polls. Two years ago, Bush held an 11-point lead over Kerry on Iraq, and an 18-point lead on terrorism. Today, the GOP is trailing the Democrats on Iraq by 12 points and is leading on terrorism by just 1 point.

Based on those numbers, it’s easy to see why President Bush is vastly happier campaigning like it’s still 2004. His rhetoric on the campaign trail reflects those relatively comfortable days much more than the somber statements he has recently issued from the White House.

Just last week, at his press conference in the East Room, the president told how the violence in Iraq started with a sophisticated insurgency, fueled in part by Al Qaeda. But more recently the killing turned into “sectarian reprisals” and what he called “the cycle of violence.”

But on the campaign trail, there is no room for the insurgents or sectarian death squads. There are only terrorists, and their apparent friends, the Democrats. “However they put it, the Democrat approach comes down to this: the terrorists win and America loses,” Bush told a rally in Perry, Ga., on Tuesday. “And that’s what’s at stake in this election. The Democrats want to get us out of Iraq, and the Republican goal is to win in Iraq.”

In fact, given the choice between the Democratic and Republican strategies—as described by the president—voters seem to prefer his opponents’ approach. According to the most recent NEWSWEEK poll, 61 percent want to see a timetable set for withdrawal from Iraq—and that includes 39 percent of Republicans.

That’s not the only stark comparison with elections past. When President Bush goes to Missouri on Friday to stump for GOP Senate candidate Jim Talent, it will be four years—almost to the day—since he did the same thing.

On Nov. 4, 2002, in the final hours of the hotly contested midterm elections, Bush was the star attraction at a rally to drive up voter enthusiasm for Talent’s first Senate campaign. The circumstances weren’t much different back then: a dead-heat Senate race in an influential swing state and a president fighting to retain his party’s majority in Congress.

Recently, Bush has explained his optimism for his party’s political chances this year by reminding reporters how many people predicted the GOP’s demise in 2002. “A lot of pundits didn’t get the election right,” Bush said in an interview with Fox News earlier this week. “In 2006, there is a lot of predictors saying that, you know, the Democrats will sweep the House and maybe take the Senate … I just don’t see it that way.”

Yet 2006 is not like 2002. Four years ago, Bush and the GOP were not weighed down by worries over Iraq or ethical scandals. The White House has worked hard to squelch talk that Bush’s low poll numbers have made him politically radioactive on the campaign trail. But the numbers don’t lie.

In 2002, Bush hit 17 cities in 15 states in the final five days of the campaign. This year, a tentative schedule released by the White House has Bush working at half that pace: eight cities in seven states between now and Election Day.

In 2002, Bush devoted the final days of the campaign to helping his party’s most vulnerable candidates—a list that included four Senate candidates, nearly a dozen House races and a handful of Republican gubernatorial candidates. His itinerary included public rallies in states like Tennessee, Missouri, Minnesota, Illinois, Florida and Iowa.

Today most of those stops are scheduled in what has been traditionally regarded as Bush country, a list that includes Iowa, Kansas, Montana and Texas. This week alone, Bush held rallies in what should be friendly territory—including Tom DeLay’s old congressional district in Texas and two straight days of campaigning in Georgia.

Administration officials have said they are keeping Bush’s schedule flexible to aid any last-minute political maneuvering, so additions to his itinerary may yet come.

But Missouri is a case in point: a conservative state that has become ground zero in the fight to control the Senate. A series of polls puts Talent in a dead heat with Democrat Claire McCaskill. Yet Bush’s visit is hardly a slam dunk for the GOP. Bush has visited the state twice this year to raise money for Talent’s campaign, but the Republican candidate has not appeared publicly with the president. On Friday, that will change: Talent is scheduled to travel with Bush to rallies in Springfield and Joplin to, in his words, “get people enthusiastic in the last stretch.”

On that basis, the GOP may be writing off independent voters who have fallen out of love with the president. That might also explain the curious decision to campaign back home in Texas the day before the election. On Monday, Bush is scheduled to headline a rally in Dallas for a roster of Lone Star Republicans, including Gov. Rick Perry—who looks safely on his way to a third term.

Two years ago, Bush wound up his re-election campaign with a last rally in Dallas, where thousands of people turned out to cheer the president onto a second term. This time around, the mood is different. Asked about the Perry rally during an interview with the Dallas Morning News last week, Bush seemed to have mixed feelings. "It'll be a nostalgic moment for me," Bush said. "It's the last time I will be at the head of the ticket, and I'm looking forward to it."

Bush may be feeling nostalgic about the campaign. But judging by the polls, voters are ready to move on.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15512649/site/newsweek/from/RS.1/

BigBadBrian
11-01-2006, 05:21 PM
http://www.drudgereport.com/irak.jpg

FORD
11-01-2006, 05:25 PM
Wow, all the neocon shitbags like the same dumb fake pictures :rolleyes:

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 05:30 PM
The only shitbag is YOU frod!

FORD
11-01-2006, 05:33 PM
Words of a desperate Bush groupie trying to cling to any faint hope of the neonazis holding on to Congress next week.

It's really pathetic, AssVibe.

Almost as bad as your love for American Idol.

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 05:38 PM
You know what's pathetic?

The fact that you're a lying piece of shit.

The fact that you wouldn't know me if you bumped into me, but yet you think you know me.

That fact that the only thing you do here is leghump the Left.

The fact that you post up cut and paste jobs from the DU and post them here like they're your own with no links.

THAT'S pathetic!

DrMaddVibe
11-01-2006, 05:41 PM
November 1, 2006

Statement of Senator John Kerry

As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops.


http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=37



The non-apology Part II!

There wasn't ANY Republican telling you what to say JOhnKErry!

Ellyllions
11-01-2006, 07:33 PM
That last two sentences just proves to me that it's all political flame wars. He doesn't really care about any shit but getting his ass elected.

Fuckers.
I hate them all!

LoungeMachine
11-01-2006, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe


and it was clear that he was goofing on the troops.


Oh shit.....

What was the body count?

Has a force depletion estimate been leaked?

There WILL be consequences ...........


:rolleyes:


You know you're wrong, you know he meant Bush, yet THIS is what you cling to in your DeLay/Foley/Ney/Libby/Frist/Rumsfeld year of carnage and theft.....:confused:

Nickdfresh
11-01-2006, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Instead the joke is every time JOhnKErry is on tv!!!

What, are you fucking gay for him or something?

Jesus, you're so obsessed it's absolutely creepy...

I'd love to see the ratio of AssVibe posts about Kerry vs. American Idol posts or any other topic on this site! I bet the Kerry posts would be real close...

Nickdfresh
11-01-2006, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Ellyllions
One major aspect of the Democratic party that caused me to change my voter registration was the lack of personal responsiblity in their thinking overall.

In my opinion, the worst part of any politicians mindset is when they try to convince people that what's happened to them is someone else's fault. Much like attorneys.

This is also what makes Mr. Bush NOT a true conservative to most Republicans because he fails to admit personal responsiblity.

So...let's add some personal responsiblity to Mr. Kerry's latest tongue-fuckup and see how this could've all been avoided.

Mr Kerry said:
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Well......he could've said:
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, Mr. Bush will try to stick you in Iraq.”

or
“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. Mr. Bush would like to convince you that enlisting in the military is an option because Mr. Bush would like to stick you in Iraq.”

or
“With Mr. Bush's failed education policies, even though you're told, to you make the most of it, study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. But he'd rather stick you in Iraq.”

Like it or not folks, Kerry could've made his "joke" clear. But instead he said what he said and just like Bush is refusing to accept responsiblity for his actions.

LMFAO!! So you'll vote for the party of Foley, Abramoff, and DeLay?

Have you even read this thread? (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41145)

Ellyllions
11-02-2006, 07:06 AM
Already voted Nick.

And I never said that Reps were any better.
Sorry, no flame war to be had here.

It is amazing however that Democrats get such large benefits of doubt from other Democrats. But when a Republican screws up, their nailed to a cross.

Man it sucks to be on this side of the fence doesn't it babe.

By the way, did I hear correctly that the photo of the soldiers holding the banner is REAL? If so, BWAHAHAHAHAH!

DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 07:21 AM
Its real!

And so are those "disiduous trees and the fat guys as well."


http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41371&perpage=30&pagenumber=1

BigBadBrian
11-02-2006, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
What, are you fucking gay for him or something?

Jesus, you're so obsessed it's absolutely creepy...



Kind of like "you guys" were/are for Delay, Foley, or Bush?

Hmm?

DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I'd love to see the ratio of AssVibe posts about Kerry vs. American Idol posts or any other topic on this site! I bet the Kerry posts would be real close...

BBB, I like this one too...I wish that hack would take the time to actually add it up. While he's at it perhaps he could tally up how many times frod, douchemachine and demented runt mention me with American Idol.

It all stemmed from staying on topic in an "American Idol" thread that was in the right forum. Perhaps Nikki could also tally up how many times his gay ass (his he a girl or man?...Really!) has posted Clay Aiken pictures vs how many times I have! That would be the telling tale on how "obsessed" one REALLY is, eh?

DLR'sCock
11-02-2006, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Hypocrite. Oh, you're still a moron.

:gulp:


whatever tubbo, coming from you that's a compliment.........again with nothing to add as always......



........the voters will vote in accordance of the real issues at hand, but please continue to masturbate to the thoughts of a possible turnaround due to the pukes desperately grasping at straws due to the fact that you/they fucked up in so many ways.......

Nickdfresh
11-02-2006, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Kind of like "you guys" were/are for Delay, Foley, or Bush?

Hmm?

Actually, when did I ever say you were ALL for Foley/DeLay (although some here clearly were batting for DeLay!) before today?

You guys are the douche-by-products that are crowing that "all DemoRATs are America-hater traitors like Kerry!"

Give me a fucking break...

And BTW MsPriorities, Foley's inappropriate conduct of sexually harassing teen pages, and DeLay's absolute corruption are far, far worse than Kerry's semantics. What do Kerry's fumbled statements have to do with any greater truth or policies?

C'mon partisan hacks, explain it!!

Do you mean we shouldn't vote for people that say stupid, inappropriate things for presidents. Well holy-fucking-shit!
http://www.incunabula.org/images/gwposter.jpg

Kerry's already in the Senate, who's the guy he's running against (without Googling)?

DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 01:40 PM
http://www.laughatliberals.com/blog/wp-images/john-kerry-heinz-57.jpg

DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 02:49 PM
GIS DROP SMART BOMB ON KERRY
HILARIOUS HEROES FIRE BACK OVER DEM AND DUMBER CRACK ABOUT IRAQ
By TODD VENEZIA in N.Y. and IAN BISHOP in Washington

November 2, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - A group of GIs showed they are smart enough to take on condescending Sen. John Kerry - by deploying a hilariously misspelled sign mocking the failed presidential candidate's comments about their education.

"Halp us Jon Carry - We R stuck hear n Irak," read the sign, which was apparently the brainchild of a group of service members from the Minnesota National Guard.

The picture was first revealed yesterday on the blog Web site of Milwaukee talk radio host Charlie Sykes, who said he got it from a listener who had a buddy in the unit.

The picture soon raced around the Internet, and it got much of the nation chuckling when it went up on Drudge Report later in the day.

Staff Sgt. Erik Holtan, a member of the Minnesota National Guard, says he saw the picture and recognized the insignia as that of his fellow Minnesota guardsmen - and he immediately put it up on his own blog site.

"It's awesome," he told The Post. "The troops over there have to be livid because of what [Kerry] said. I don't know why he would say that."

Holtan, who works at Guard headquarters, said he believes the troops behind the Kerry sign are in Iraq, since all the members of the unit in the shot - the 1/34 Brigade Troops Battalion - have been deployed.

He said he can see a unit insignia on one of the vehicles in the background and those vehicles have also gone to Iraq.

Fox News Channel quoted Army officials saying that the picture looked authentic and appeared to be taken in Iraq.

"We are always amazed at the creativity of our troops," one Army official told Fox.

Without citing sources, ABC News in Washington said the photograph was taken in Talil, several hundred miles south of Baghdad, where members of the unit are located.

By the end of the day, the shot was burning up the Internet - and was the most stinging rebuke to Kerry's knuckleheaded flub.

The Minnesota Guard and the Pentagon said they could not comment on the picture.

Meanwhile, Kerry surrendered yesterday to a barrage of criticism from Republicans and Democrats over his troop-trashing gaffe and apologized "to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

Kerry's belated mea culpa, issued at 4:24 p.m., came after Democratic candidates in Iowa, Minnesota and Pennsylvania refused to campaign with him - and Republicans made him the centerpiece of their stump speeches.

"As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: My poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to, any troop," Kerry said in the statement.

"I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended," he added.

Republicans pounced on the miscue by the Democrats' 2004 presidential nominee and thrust the divisive Kerry onto center stage to fire up the party's conservative base.

"You remember John Kerry, the senator who voted for the $87 billion before he voted against it - the guy that was always lecturing us about nuances," Vice President Dick Cheney said to a Montana GOP rally in remarks prepared for delivery.

Added Cheney, "Of course, now Sen. Kerry says he was just making a joke, and he botched it up. I guess we didn't get the nuance. He was for the joke before he was against it" - a reprise of the flip-flopper stigma Republicans tied to Kerry in 2004.

The war of words comes as Republicans and Democrats scramble for the upper hand less than a week before the crucial congressional elections.

Democrats need to pick up 15 seats in the House and six in the Senate to win back control.

Before issuing the statement, Kerry insisted he meant no offense to the troops and was trying to insult President Bush and his Cabinet for failing to do their homework before invading Iraq when he told students in California they'd "get stuck in Iraq" if they didn't study hard.

After the initial criticism Tuesday, Kerry had defiantly defended his remarks, saying he "apologized to no one" and ripping he Bush White House.

Kerry told nationally syndicated radio host Don Imus yesterday morning that he was only "sorry about a botched joke. You think I love botched jokes? I mean, you know, it's pretty stupid."

Imus, echoing may Democratic strategists, begged him: "Please stop it. Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike, go windsurfing, anything. Stop it. You're going to ruin this."

Montana Democratic Senate candidate Jon Tester concurred: "Sen. Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid. He owes our troops and their families an apology."

Before going to ground and issuing his apology on the Internet, Kerry, a Vietnam vet, accused the White House of trying to "distort something completely out of its context" for political gain.

White House press secretary Tony Snow shot back: "Kerry's words were pretty straightforward, and if you listen to the tone of voice in which he said them, it's hard to construe them as a joke. He didn't sound like he was trying to make funnies."

"Do the following words malign the troops? 'You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make the effort to be smart, you can do well, and if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq,'" Snow added.

"Those are the words. That's not the intention. We're sitting here trying to do mind-reading. We're not playing the 'what if' game. Do those words insult the troops? Apparently, troops believe so," he said.

The Republican National Committee cut a Web ad - e-mailed to supporters - that features a video clip of Kerry's original comment.

"John Kerry should apologize. Our soldiers are waiting," the closing caption says.

President Bush, appearing on Rush Limbaugh's national radio show, said, "Anybody who is in a position to serve this country ought to have the consequences of words, and our troops deserve the full support of people in government."

"We've got incredible people in our military, and they deserve full praise and full support."


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FORD
11-02-2006, 02:54 PM
Can we say obsessed, AssVibe??

Clay must be getting jealous of your preoccupation with Judas IsKerryot.

DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 02:55 PM
No, obsessed is what YOU see in the mirror!

fuckface!

Guitar Shark
11-02-2006, 03:06 PM
"fuckface" - the comeback of intellectuals everywhere.

Guitar Shark
11-02-2006, 03:07 PM
Oh and btw FORD, you are the LAST person who should be making fun of obsessions of any kind... ;)

LoungeMachine
11-02-2006, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
No, obsessed is what YOU see in the mirror!

fuckface!

This is what a GED from Florida Public Schools will get you.....


When not working at Jiffy Lube that it....


:rolleyes:

pathetic.

FORD
11-02-2006, 03:59 PM
Since the Busheep apparently want to have a flashback to the 2004 campaign, here's the biggest "hit single" of that season. And it ain't the Swift Boat Liars.....


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DrMaddVibe
11-02-2006, 04:02 PM
Then its not THE biggest hit then!

We all know that the biggest hit was to your ego!