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LoungeMachine
11-09-2006, 03:59 PM
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Iowa Governor Launches Presidential Bid
Tom Vilsack Is First Democrat To Officially File Paperwork To Run In '08
"Americans sent a clear message on Tuesday. They want leaders who will take this country in a new direction."
Gov. Tom Vilsack, D-Iowa
(AP) Democratic Gov. Tom Vilsack of Iowa, seeking an early jump on 2008, launched a long-shot bid for the White House on Thursday.
"Americans sent a clear message on Tuesday. They want leaders who will take this country in a new direction," Vilsack said in a statement. "They want leaders who share their values, understand their needs, and respect their intelligence. That's what I've done as governor of Iowa, and that's what I intend to do as president."
Vilsack, Iowa's two-term governor, filed documents with the Federal Election Commission in Washington to create a presidential campaign committee. His campaign started operating, with an office open and letterhead printed. His campaign Web site www.tomvilsack08.com was online by early Thursday.
The governor is the first Democrat to file for the presidency although a number of better known candidates are presumed to be running.
Although the favorite son in the early voting state, Vilsack has trailed the other potential candidates in early polling, among them front-runner New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and 2004 vice presidential nominee John Edwards.
Vilsack aides said the governor had made the decision to run, and saw no reason to wait to start campaigning.
He is among the lesser-known would-be Democratic candidate, and entering the race early could help him boost his name recognition and increase his ability to raise money. However, the announcement two days after the midterm elections could be overshadowed by the changing of the guard in Washington with Democrats seizing control of Congress for the first time in a dozen years.
Vilsack plans a multistate tour beginning Nov. 30 to formally announce his bid. The first stop will be his hometown of Mount Pleasant, where he served as mayor and which he represented in the Iowa Senate before being elected governor in 1998.
Vilsack said he will also announce his candidacy in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Nevada and South Carolina. Vilsack was born in Pittsburgh, and the other states are all early tests of strength in the nominating process.
"I couldn't be more honored that my wife, Christie, and our sons, Doug and Jess, are committed to joining my effort to offer the people of America and the Democratic Party my vision for the future of our country as a candidate for president," said Vilsack, a former head of the Democratic Governors Association. "Over the next several weeks, they and the rest of my campaign team will put together the building blocks needed to run a successful national presidential campaign."
Vilsack heads the Democratic Leadership Council, a centrist group that former President Clinton used to help launch his candidacy. He has also traveled the country campaigning for Democratic gubernatorial candidates while considering a presidential run.
Vilsack said in his statement that he plans a "Gala Celebration of American Community" on Dec. 2 in Des Moines as his initial fundraising event. His campaign headquarters are in Des Moines. Iowa's caucuses launch the nominating process in January 2008, and Vilsack's first test in his home state will be vital to his presidential hopes.
Vilsack became Iowa's first Democratic governor in 30 years when he won the election, pledging at the time to limit himself to two terms. He kept that promise, working to elect Democrat Chet Culver as his replacement.
On the Republican side, Rep. Duncan Hunter of California has announced the formation of an exploratory committee. About a dozen other candidates, including Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, are weighing bids.
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BigBadBrian
11-09-2006, 04:04 PM
Maybe Howard Dean should run.
Let's see how long it takes FORD to bite on this hook.
Tom Vilsuck was rewarded with the DLC chairmanship due to "services renedered" during the 2004 Iowa caucus.
That fucking traitorous whore will NEVER be President.
For those of you who aren't paying attention, Howard Dean won the 2006 election. It was the same 50 state strategy that you (and VilSUCK's DLC) ridiculed him for in 2004. But it worked.
The DLC can't win a single fucking election. Howard Dean just did. And he'll win 2008 as well. Whether a candidate or not.
Fuck VilSUCK up the ass with a dull rusty chainsaw and throw the rest of the DLC traitors in the grave with him.
BigBadBrian
11-09-2006, 04:15 PM
FORD, when will you wake the fuck up and realize that most people in this country that have the power to swing votes from one party to another want a centrist candidate, be that a Democrat of Republican? Those socialists you prefer don't have a shot.
Guitar Shark
11-09-2006, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Let's see how long it takes FORD to bite on this hook.
Not long at all.
:D
Lqskdiver
11-09-2006, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Those socialists you prefer don't have a shot.
THANK GOD!
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Not long at all.
:D
I didn't even see his dumbshit post until after I replied.
At this point, Dean is not a 2008 candidate. I believe he would be a great President, but I respect his decision, and there's no doubt that he has saved the Democratic party from the demise that was caused by moles like VilSUCK and his DLC.
And for the record, Brian, I have no problems with moderate Democrats - such as your new Senator - being in this party. I have a problem with corporatist sellouts in league with the traitors who are destroying this country. And there are many DLC'ers names on the PNAC documents.
And for all your rhetoric about "socialists", an actual Socialist ran for a Senate seat. He won. So complain to the people of Vermont if you don't like that.
The DLC loses elections Howard Dean just won a HUGE victory. If anyone's still confused about who leads the Democratic party, then they need to pull their head out of their ass.
Warham
11-09-2006, 04:29 PM
Howard Dean didn't win any election. The Democrats send Howard off to unimportant speaking engagements just hoping he doesn't have any press following him, hoping they can catch him saying something racist or derogatory towards minorities, or the average American, in fact.
The Republicans lost the election, pure and simple.
Warham
11-09-2006, 04:32 PM
Howard Dean:
'All Republicans are eeeeeeevil. I hate Republicans. You couldn't get this many blacks at a Republican convention, unless you got the hotel staff in here!'
He's certainly not the type that's going to be reaching across the aisle anytime soon in bipartisanship.
Bitterness will get you nowhere, WarPig. Election's over, The Democrats won fair and square.
I know you're upset about Macaca, but we all have to move on.
Warham
11-09-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Bitterness will get you nowhere, WarPig. Election's over, The Democrats won fair and square.
I know you're upset about Macaca, but we all have to move on.
Why haven't you said that about any election prior to this one where the Republicans won fair and square?
Instead, we get two years plus of moaning and whining about how every precinct was rigged for Republicans.
You guys are sore losers, and sore winners too.
Guitar Shark
11-09-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Howard Dean didn't win any election.
The Republicans lost the election, pure and simple.
Holy Hell, I agree with Warham. And I think I just saw a pig flying by my office window.
Voters are upset with the direction of the country, so they voted out the party in power. It's that simple. It is a huge leap to assume anything more than that.
Warham
11-09-2006, 04:39 PM
I'm reaching across the aisle in bipartisanship, Sharkie. :)
Guitar Shark
11-09-2006, 04:43 PM
I would be interested in the results of a poll asking all voters their opinion of Howard Dean. My guess is that he would get less than a 40% approval rating. It is ludicrous to suggest that voters went Democratic because of Dean. If anything, they voted Democratic in spite of Dean.
Warham
11-09-2006, 04:48 PM
Howard Dean's approval rating:
In Vermont: 90%
In the other 49 states: 10%
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I would be interested in the results of a poll asking all voters their opinion of Howard Dean. My guess is that he would get less than a 40% approval rating. It is ludicrous to suggest that voters went Democratic because of Dean. If anything, they voted Democratic in spite of Dean.
You're missing the point. Someone in Missouri or Virginia or Montana doesn't even have to know who Howard Dean IS. His name wasn't on the ballot. But his strategy for winning this country was. And that's why Democrats got elected in states that were considered "red" a week ago.
Guitar Shark
11-09-2006, 04:51 PM
Well, I totally disagree. But that's no surprise. :)
Warham
11-09-2006, 04:53 PM
The Democrats strategy to win the election:
Wait until the Republicans fuck up somehow and piss off the conservative base.
Originally posted by Warham
Why haven't you said that about any election prior to this one where the Republicans won fair and square?
You really want me to go all the way back then?
OK, the Willie Horton ads were below the belt, but Dukakis was a shitty candidate. Poppy deserved to win.
I blame Van Hagar for that one. Sammy put a subliminable "Vote for Bush" track on "How Do I Know When It's Cheese"
Warham
11-09-2006, 05:02 PM
Moderator: 'Would you want the death penalty for the person who raped your wife, Governor Dukakis?'
Mike: 'Well, I'd have to take a hard look at the circumstances surrounding the rape.'
He was almost like a precursor for John Kerry.
LoungeMachine
11-09-2006, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Warham
The Democrats strategy to win the election:
Wait until the Republicans fuck up somehow and piss off the conservative base.
Yeah, well,
it worked, didn't it?
And thanks for all of the cooperation on your guys' part.
And I don't think I'm being a "sore winner" at all.
I think I gave you a bit of a ribbing, and moved right on to the task at hand, stealing 2008. ;)
I'll leave the rubbing the neocons' faces in shit to others here.
:cool:
Warham
11-09-2006, 06:21 PM
I'm already looking towards 2008, and so are the candidates apparently, with the first one firing off his application to the federal election commission.
Lqskdiver
11-09-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Bitterness will get you nowhere, WarPig. Election's over, The Democrats won fair and square.
I know you're upset about Macaca, but we all have to move on.
OMG!!!!
What a crock of shit, Dave! I hope you weren't serious when said that.
LoungeMachine
11-09-2006, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
OMG!!!!
What a crock of shit, Dave! I hope you weren't serious when said that.
You have to at least appreciate the irony ;)
DLR'sCock
11-09-2006, 07:57 PM
For as much as I like Dean I know he couldn't WIN and election in 2008, although I will give him credit for his input in 2006. JUST like I know that NADER(I voted for him twice) will never win anything, except maybe the DC congressional seat if he would run, but he won't.
The fact is, whether you like it or not, a guy like Vilsack, Gov. from the "mid west" could WIN a presidential election in the USA.
I would say that 2006 was a combination of teams winning and losing. You figure it out point by point, but is it worth it? Although one cannot deny that Americans spoke with their vote.
EAT MY ASSHOLE
11-09-2006, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
FORD, when will you wake the fuck up and realize that most people in this country that have the power to swing votes from one party to another want a centrist candidate, be that a Democrat of Republican? Those socialists you prefer don't have a shot.
Funny. You once - meaning a week ago - said the dems didn't have a shot at winning the House and Senate. So, with your jinx, I'd say Dean might well be a shoo-in after all.
And you guys are wrong about him. He isn't far left. If anything he - along with Pelosi and Reid - made sure that the Dems had centrist candidates, candidates who could win, and not just as a reaction against Bush. The 50 state strategy - which certain people vilified in here not so terribly long ago - turned out to be a damn fucking effective strategy after all.
With that kind of vision - if not TV/PR skills - and his ability to execute that vision, Dean would probably be a fucking effective commander in chief after all.
Seshmeister
11-09-2006, 10:30 PM
I'm not a rocket surgeon on US politics but it seems to me that the way you win is to get someone from the opposite area of your heartland.
Carter - Sticks
Raygun - California
Clinton - Arkansas
W - Planet Earth.
Seshmeister
11-09-2006, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
With that kind of vision - if not TV/PR skills - and his ability to execute that vision, Dean would probably be a fucking effective commander in chief after all.
Since when was it about that?
Bush dodged the draft and beat a guy who was decorated in Vietnam on the platform of his war record.
It's totally fucking insane stuff.
Nothing apart from TV/PR matters a fuck.
The Democrats need to find candidate who is an ex KKK actor from Texas preferably with a Nazi war criminal grandparent who is anti-abortion, pro death penalty for unbelievers and an ex president of the NRA.
Lqskdiver
11-10-2006, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
I'm not a rocket surgeon on US politics but it seems to me that the way you win is to get someone from the opposite area of your heartland.
Carter - Sticks
Raygun - California
Clinton - Arkansas
W - Planet Earth.
You forgot:
Arnie - Future Wasteland
http://www.trainsaw.com/images/terminator.jpg
This myth of "conservative candidates" is about to be shot down.
It's easy to assume that Jim Webb, for example, would have to be a DLC Republican mole to be elected in Virginia, because most of the recent "Democrats" from VA (including the last two governors) certainly were.
But I heard an interview with Webb on the radio this morning, and he said that while he did buy into the Republican party's "national security" myth for a while, his core values also include economic fairness and social justice.
Those, my friends, are LIBERAL values. :)
Welcome, Senator Webb!
Lqskdiver
11-10-2006, 10:37 AM
Social justice????
I didn't know there were various stages of justice to begin with.
What exactly does that mean?
And my next question:
Not including the partisian politics; is national security a myth or actually an important role of the government?
LoungeMachine
11-10-2006, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Social justice????
I didn't know there were various stages of justice to begin with.
Then you're obviously not very familiar with The Bush Administration then....:rolleyes:
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Social justice????
I didn't know there were various stages of justice to begin with.
What exactly does that mean?
And my next question:
Not including the partisian politics; is national security a myth or actually an important role of the government?
By "myth", I meant the silly idea that Republicans were somehow better at this than Democrats, as Chimpy has proved beyond all reasonable doubt by doing NOTHING to secure this country in 6 years.
Think about it. Let's say you just stepped out of a time machine into October 1962 Just in time for the Cuban Missile Crisis. Are you happy JFK is in charge, or do you want to return to the present and drag Chimpy and Rumsfeld back with you? ;)
Lqskdiver
11-10-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Then you're obviously not very familiar with The Bush Administration then....:rolleyes:
What wit. I'm obviously impressed.
Ok, Buhdda, what is your interpretation of social justice and how is it NOT applied in a FREE democracy such as the United States
LoungeMachine
11-10-2006, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
What wit. I'm obviously impressed.
Ok, Buhdda, what is your interpretation of social justice and how is it NOT applied in a FREE democracy such as the United States
Actually, I'm referring more to the sort of "justice" BushCO metes out in other countries under the guise of "interviews". You know: Redaction
And it's Buddha, my son ;)
LoungeMachine
11-10-2006, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
What wit. I'm obviously impressed.
As you should be :D
Lqskdiver
11-10-2006, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by FORD
By "myth", I meant the silly idea that Republicans were somehow better at this than Democrats, as Chimpy has proved beyond all reasonable doubt by doing NOTHING to secure this country in 6 years.
But that is just it! Republicans have a history of building arsenals and supporting the milita and CIA. While Democrats build walls information sharing, decrease spending budgets on military and send their attack dogs the ACLU over rights to privacy issues.
The many failures of the Clinton administration in security matters was proven in the 911 commission reports. With all the talk of troop withdrawals, infringement on gitmo prisoners and rights to privacy issues driven by the Democrats, how does that give us a sense of security responsibility by the left.
I cross the Mexican border everyday and while I sometimes have to wait over an hour in line, I know it's because the job is being done in securing our borders. That wasn't the case 6 years ago.
"proved beyond all reasonable doubt by doing NOTHING to secure this country in 6 years"???
What the fuck???? Get your head out of your ass and admit that is not the case. When you get on a flight are you concerned or apathetic about security there after being searched and watching the US Marshalls board the plane along with you.
How the fuck is that lax security??
Lqskdiver
11-10-2006, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Actually, I'm referring more to the sort of "justice" BushCO metes out in other countries under the guise of "interviews". You know: Redaction
And it's Buddha, my son ;)
I figured you did, that is why asked to leave the partisan politics out of it.
And I rarely spell check by the way, so I apologize for any future "mespells". ;)
DLR'sCock
11-10-2006, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by FORD
This myth of "conservative candidates" is about to be shot down.
It's easy to assume that Jim Webb, for example, would have to be a DLC Republican mole to be elected in Virginia, because most of the recent "Democrats" from VA (including the last two governors) certainly were.
But I heard an interview with Webb on the radio this morning, and he said that while he did buy into the Republican party's "national security" myth for a while, his core values also include economic fairness and social justice.
Those, my friends, are LIBERAL values. :)
Welcome, Senator Webb!
I heard his speech as well, interesting, let's see how it all plays out.
LoungeMachine
11-10-2006, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
I figured you did, that is why asked to leave the partisan politics out of it.
And I rarely spell check by the way, so I apologize for any future "mespells". ;)
And I honestly didn't even read the post[s] you refer to....
I just read "justice" and automatically think of BushCO's removal of Habeus Corpus and most of the Bill of Rights.
Sorry to inject politics in your discussion. Kneejerk reaction. I'm in a political 12-step program as we speak. It's old habits :cool:
EAT MY ASSHOLE
11-10-2006, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Social justice????
I didn't know there were various stages of justice to begin with.
You're obviously not black or of Arabic descent...
Warham
11-10-2006, 02:56 PM
FORD,
You must know by now that Jim Webb served in the Reagan administration as Naval Secretary.
Doesn't that mean he's part of the BCE, by definition?
Originally posted by Warham
FORD,
You must know by now that Jim Webb served in the Reagan administration as Naval Secretary.
Doesn't that mean he's part of the BCE, by definition?
As he said, he bought into the myth. Obviously, he's not BCE anymore. Maybe he was one of the few actual Reagan appointees to begin with?
LoungeMachine
11-10-2006, 03:07 PM
Besides, there are different LEVELS of BCE
There's true BCE
Pretty much BCE
May as well be BCE
and of course, sure as fuck ACTS like BCE
Warham
11-10-2006, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by FORD
As he said, he bought into the myth.
Or so you think...
The Force runs strong in Karl Rove. He's more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Infesting the DNC with Republicans was the next ploy in his big BCE bag of tricks.
EAT MY ASSHOLE
11-10-2006, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Or so you think...
The Force runs strong in Karl Rove. He's more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Infesting the DNC with Republicans was the next ploy in his big BCE bag of tricks.
OH MY GOD, DID WARHAM JUST ADMITT THAT HIS TRUE IDENTITY IS ACTUALLY NANCY PELOSI???
Originally posted by Warham
Or so you think...
The Force runs strong in Karl Rove. He's more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Infesting the DNC with Republicans was the next ploy in his big BCE bag of tricks.
You seem to be forgetting that Poppy is back in charge at BCE headquarters. I'll bet he's about to fire Rove for the third time.
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