Happy Veterans' Day to Those Who Served

[LoungeMachine]

Our sincerest thanks, and deepest gratitude, including and especially to our own Sarge.....

At the eleventh hour, of the eleventh day, of the eleventh month


Let's bring 'em home soon.....

:cool:

[Hardrock69]

You are quite welcome.
:cool:

[DLR'sCock]

To all the vets, thanks and appreciation to each and every one of you.


Let's see those troops overseas come home soon safely.

[DEMON CUNT]

Amen!

[Steve Savicki]

Amen, especially to Sarge.

[Nickdfresh]

Can the vet's get a sticky?


Vet's get a sticky!

[Nickdfresh]

http://www3.eou.edu/hist06/images/thewall1.jpg
http://www.jewelofthemall.com/images/dawn.jpg
http://www.windycityart.com/washingtondc/dc/korean%20war%20memorial.jpg
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~aubuchon/london2002/Pictures/London%201/WWI%20memorial%20london%20BW.jpeg


The story of Veteran's Day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans'_Day

[Jérôme Frenchise]

To the vets of all countries and, as this is a mainly American site, to the Brave who sacrificed their lives, were buried far away from their homes and made the 1918 victory possible. They avoided more millions of war victims in Europe.
We don't forget about it here, be sure of that. :cool:

[Nickdfresh]

How many Frenchmen died at Verdun alone Jerome? Wasn't it almost a million?:(

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
How many Frenchmen died at Verdun alone Jerome? Wasn't it almost a million?:(

They were 163,000 to die there between February and December 16th 1916, and 143,000 German soldiers.
There were millions of dead people on either side - I'll check the exact number.

Anyway, they were all victims, including the German, as every time there is a war, as a French vet told me recently, it's always because of a few politicians and big business issues that soldiers wind up firing at "the enemy".
But an end had to be put to it, and the thousands of American soldiers who died in France alongside the other Allies, mostly the English, spared some million more deaths.
It's really impressive, thinking of all the Americans who crossed the Atlantic and fought for the freedom of a land that wasn't theirs (not yet; but it became theirs as soon as they set foot on it, and forever!), I mean, the word "hero" has a true meaning.
This land is "strewn" with immense cemetaries, so wide that you can't tell how you feel when you go there to stand silent before the fields of graves that sometimes stretch up to the horizon... :(
The horror makes them even more human. Paying homage to them once a year is really the least we can do.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

There were 8 million killed during the First World War in total, and 6 million disabled...

1.4 million Frenchmen died during the whole war, that is 10% of all Frenchmen.

I often tell my pupils, who are very young of course and, as youth always will, tend to consider past wars as very far remote, that when you consider the history of mankind, 1916 for instance is just a while ago...
Anyway, however far it is or not, time should never lessen these collective memories.

[Switch84]

:D You're welcome, bitches!

[Dave's PA Rental]

As I said, I didnt look very hard...

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41708

[blonddgirl777]

Jérôme,
"Je me souviens"...
Le débarquement de Normandie (W.W.2)!

[blonddgirl777]

I've already posted this in Dave's PA Rental's thread in "Non" but it diserves to be re-posted...


Canadian military

The average age of the Canadian military man is 19 years. He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country. He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either.

He's a recent High School graduate;

He was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away.

He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155mm howitzer.

He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk.

He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark.

He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher and use either one effectively if he must.

He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional.

He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march.

He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity. He is self-sufficient.

He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other.

He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry.

He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle.

He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts.

If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you
in the midst of battle when you run low.

He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands.

He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.

He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still find ironic humour in it all.

He has seen more suffering and death then he should have in his short lifetime.

He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them.
He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed.

He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand,
remove their hat, or even stop talking.

In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.

Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom. Beardless or not, he is not a boy.

He is the Canadian Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.

He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding.

Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his blood.

And now we even have woman over there in danger, doing their part in this tradition of going to War when our nation calls us to do so.

As you go to bed tonight, remember this shot.

A short lull, a little shade and a picture of loved ones in their helmets.

Prayer wheel for our military... please don't break it. Please pass this on after a short prayer.

Prayer Wheel;

"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us.
Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen."


God bless them all!

[BigBadBrian]

I've posted this before, but it's an oldie and a good one:


What is a Veteran?
Some veterans bear visible signs of their service:
a missing limb, a jagged scar, a certain look in the eye.

Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding
a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg -
or perhaps another sort of inner steel: the soul's
ally forged in the refinery of adversity.

Except in parades, however, the men and women who
have kept America safe wear no badge or emblem.

You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet?

He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi
Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored
personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel.

He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks,
whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a
hundred times in the cosmic scales by four hours of
exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel.

She - or he - is the nurse who fought against futility
and went to sleep sobbing every night for
two solid years in Da Nang.

He is the POW who went away one person and came back another -
or didn't come back AT ALL.

He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat -
but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account
rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching them to
watch each other's backs.

He is the parade-riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons
and medals with a prosthetic hand.

He is the career quartermaster who watches the
ribbons and medals pass him by.

He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns,
whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever
preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor
dies unrecognized with them on the battlefield
or in the ocean's sunless deep.

He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket -
palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a
Nazi death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were
still alive to hold him when the nightmares come.

He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being -
a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in
the service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions
so others would not have to sacrifice theirs.

He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness,
and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on
behalf of the finest, the greatest nation ever known.

So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country,
just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need,
and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could
have been awarded or were awarded. Two little words that mean a lot,
"THANK YOU."

[BigBadBrian]

Post your favorite service pics.

http://www.navysite.de/cg/cg20_1.jpg

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/us_navy_pages/aircraft_carriers/dwight_d_eisenhower_cvn_69/uss_eisenhower_02.jpg

USS Theodore Rooselvt Battle Group:


http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/images/uss_roosevelt_strike_group.jpg

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I've posted this before, but it's an oldie and a good one:



She - or he - is the nurse who fought against futility
and went to sleep sobbing every night for
two solid years in Da Nang.




or the nurses that never left the U.S.

my mom was stationed stateside as an intensive care nurse. she got the serious cases coming back from vietnam. 19 year olds paralyzed from the neck down, etc.

not really any physical danger to her. but a duty as draining and mentally challenging as most out there.

thanks mom!


and the rest of you bastards, too...;)

[Nickdfresh]

Let's try to treat our vets a little better, shall we?

[Hyman Roth]

http://e.photos.cx/0002-2d7.jpg

THANK YOU ALL CURRENT AND FORMER SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN - YOU ARE BRAVE SOULS WHO HAVE MY UTMOST RESPECT AND DESERVE THE SAME.

[Ally_Kat]

Hugs and thanks to all my veterans. And lots of prayers and hope for our POWs still missing.

[jhale667]

Thanks to all the vets. Special thanks to SARGE. :D

[cadaverdog]

Sorry
Accidently double posted

[cadaverdog]

You're welcome.

Served U S Navy


Oct 81-Sep 87

Fire Control Tech

Honorable Shellback

USS Leftwich DD 984 82- 84

[jharp84]

Originally posted by Switch84
:D You're welcome, bitches!

:cool:

[jharp84]

Originally posted by cadaverdog
Sorry
Accidently double posted

That's Ok! Lounge will fuck my ass anyway! :D

[naturochem]

http://theunitedamerican.blogs.com/bring_it_on/images/thank_you_banner.jpg

http://www.webcitynet.com/vets/images/WWII-Rosie.jpg

[naturochem]

Originally posted by cadaverdog
You're welcome.

Except you...

[jharp84]

Originally posted by naturochem
http://theunitedamerican.blogs.com/bring_it_on/images/thank_you_banner.jpg

http://www.webcitynet.com/vets/images/WWII-Rosie.jpg :lol:

[naturochem]

No joke here.

The statue is located at the Community Vetrans Memorial in Munster, Indiana (http://www.webcitynet.com/vets/index.shtml)
To Remember those who participated in the great wars of the 20 century - World Wars I and II, Korea, Vietnam…those killed and those who survived, their stories and their history…

To Educate those who live today…about the reality of war…not the heroics…the suffering of war…and its repeating history…

To Challenge those who shape the future…to break the repetition of violence…to imagine and hope for peace.

WORLD WAR II HOMEFRONT MONUMENT — 1941-1945
OMRI AMRANY - SCULPTOR

The curving cement enfolding us suggests the archetypal Great Mother. She stretches out her arms and yearns with her hands. Set on repetitive cycles of granite, she exemplifies forces, personal and societal, which supported troops overseas.

Poetic words of wisdom by many women appear on the sweep of her garment. She is the home front.

Drawn to the center, a young woman in bronze looks out to the city. A bandana protects her hair. As the mythic 'Rosie the Riveter' she symbolizes new opportunities for women in factories, mills and foundries.

Over Rosie are hand-written letters…emotional messages to and from soldiers and sailors, mothers, sisters and lovers. Letters, radios and newsboys provided what we knew … “My dearest Ray…I get so lonesome sometimes, but you know me, I work hard till I get over it … Dodie” (South Bend)

World War II involved all of us…

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by jharp84
That's Ok! Lounge will fuck my ass anyway! :D

:rolleyes:

unbelievable.

You'll even post your 3rd grade crap in a thread like this.

pathetic.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by jharp84
:lol:

"Tee hee hee,Look at the funny war memorial..."

Can we have one semi-sacred thread devoid of retarded responses?

[ALinChainz]

I honor my father, who served in the Korean War. He died of cancer December 21, 1988 at 53 years old. He wasn't an easy dad to have, as he believed in a military style of discipline and growing up as a young man, there were many tough life lessons earned. He taught me what and who should be priority in my life, and I am proud to say, I carried out his orders he gave to me in the waning moments of his life to the letter. The wife and family that carried on after his passing are taken care of and will be as long as I am able.

I honor my cousin, who has just recently served and turned her life around by enlisting. She is a complete 180 of who she was and the values she lives her life with now makes for an astonishing change.

I honor my friends and their children who have served, as I have been fortunate that everyone has fulfilled their tours and came home safely.

I honor Sarge and VA Beach, and who amongst the insanity here, carry themselves in a manner that deserves respect. And any other members of the Roth Army who served our country, thank you.

Whether you agree with what happens, regardless, it takes special people to enlist and serve, and no matter the situation, deserve respect and best wishes for their safety and a return to their loved ones.

Thank you.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
"Tee hee hee,Look at the funny war memorial..."

Can we have one semi-sacred thread devoid of retarded responses?


I'm so beyond fed up with this douche.

I wanted to edit his shit out, but then he and thome and cadver would start 9 more Suck my Edit threads....

Meanwhile I get pm's from Unchainme alerting me to how mad Maxi Pad is at me and Nick over the jharp thread.

:rolleyes:

[LoungeMachine]

Well put, AL

:cool:

:gulp:

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'm so beyond fed up with this douche.

I wanted to edit his shit out, but then he and thome and cadver would start 9 more Suck my Edit threads....

Meanwhile I get pm's from Unchainme alerting me to how mad Maxi Pad is at me and Nick over the jharp thread.

:rolleyes:

Fuck OU812Maxi, and his online whore...

I've had it with both of 'em!

They're lucky I forgave their shit a couple years back with the big gay DG-Sheep Pen drama...

They're both always starting subtle little "us-against-the-world" shitstorms...It get's old...

[VanHalener]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands.

To SARGE:gulp:
http://i19.tinypic.com/86zhssm.jpg


To all vets :gulp:
http://i8.tinypic.com/w2caah.jpg


To the US Army:gulp:
http://i10.tinypic.com/433e07q.gif


:cato2:

[FORD]

Unfortunately, not ALL Vets were honored today :(

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/wp-content/photos/1112_03.gif


18 arrested in antiwar protest by veterans

By Tania deLuzuriaga and Charles M. Sennott, Globe Staff | November 12, 2007

More than a dozen members of an antiwar veterans group were arrested yesterday as they protested the exclusion of their message from Boston's Veterans Day parade.

Members of Veterans for Peace lined up in front of a podium at City Hall Plaza holding antiwar placards, as color guards from Massachusetts military units and JROTC bands from across the state filed into Government Center for a ceremony, sponsored by the American Legion, to honor veterans after the parade. Some protesters wore gags, which they later said symbolized the fact that, while they were permitted to march in the parade, they were prevented from carrying signs opposing the war in Iraq.

"We were exercising our First Amendment rights," said Winston Warfield of Dorchester, a member of the group. "The First Amendment protects free speech, even when you don't agree with what's being said."

When Boston police asked the demonstrators to move from the front of the podium so that the Veterans Day services could continue, they refused. As the Boston Firemen's Band played The Marine Hymn, several protesters were placed in plastic handcuffs and led away.

"Our free speech and civil rights are being abridged here," said Nate Goldschlag, a Vietnam-era veteran who was among those standing in front of the podium. "We are veterans, too, and we should be allowed to express our opposition to this war."

American Legion officials declined to comment.

Boston police said that 18 people were arrested - 15 men and three women. All were charged with disturbing a lawful assembly of people.

Link (http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/11/12/18_arrested_in_antiwar_protest_by_veterans/)

[cadaverdog]

Originally posted by naturochem
Except you...

That O K
I defend your right to free speach.
Hell I would have given my life to defend your rights .
That's why I joined .

[chefcraig]

A sincere thank you to all of the men and women who have dutifully served and continue to serve this country in times of war and peace. This day is yours, enjoy it with the pride and respect of a grateful country.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/993/avetf.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/avetf.jpg/)

[Nickdfresh]

Bump!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Merged...

[Nickdfresh]

Stickied!!

[VanHalener]

Don't thank me, thank my recruiter. ;)

~All The Way~

[GO-SPURS-GO]

Happy Veteran's Day to ALL who have made this world a more peaceful place to live. ;)

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[diamondsgirl]

I went to our towns Veterens Day Parade. It was a great way to say thank you.

[kwame k]

I know there was a movie about these guys and they have gotten some press but I still want to post this.......


NEW YORK – The famed Navajo Code Talkers, the elite Marine unit whose unbreakable code stymied the Japanese in World War II, fear their legacy will die with them.
Only about 50 of the 400 Code Talkers are believed to be still alive, most living in the Navajo Nation reservation that spans Arizona, New Mexico and Utah. Many are frail or ill, with little time left to tell the world about their wartime contribution.
But on Tuesday, 13 of the Code Talkers, some using canes, a few in wheelchairs, arrived in New York City to participate for the first time in the nation's largest Veterans Day parade, set for Wednesday.
The young Navajo Marines, using secret Navajo language-encrypted military terms, helped the U.S. prevail at Iwo Jima and other World War II Pacific battles, serving in every Marine assault in the South Pacific between 1942 and 1945. Military commanders said the code, transmitted verbally by radio, helped save countless American lives and bring a speedier end to the war in the Pacific theater.
They were sworn to secrecy about their code, so complex that even other Navajo Marines couldn't decipher it. Used to transmit secret tactical messages via radio or telephone, the code remained unbroken and classified for decades because of its potential postwar use.
"We were never told that our code was never decoded" or given identities of the original 29 Navajos who created it, said Keith Little, 85, who joined the Marines at 17 and remembers crouching in a bomb crater amid heavy fire on Iwo Jima.
"It was all covered by secrecy. We were constantly told not to talk about it," Little said. The Code Talkers felt compelled to honor their secrecy orders, even after the code was declassified in 1968.
The oldest of the 13 living Code Talkers is 92, and the group includes one of the original 29. Many Code Talkers who served in the war were young farmers and sheepherders who had never been away from home.
"The code did a lot of damage to the enemy," said Samuel Tom Holiday, 85, of Kayenta, Ariz., who also is joining the parade. He was a 20-year-old Code Talker when he and two other Marines went behind enemy lines on Iwo Jima to locate a Japanese artillery unit advancing on American forces.
Once the unit was located, Holiday transmitted a coded message to Marine artillery, which fired a big shell at the Japanese. After the Marine rifleman proclaimed it "right on target," Holiday messaged "Right on Target" to a Navajo Code Talker in Marine artillery.
Though the Code Talkers transmitted information on tactics and troop movements, orders and other vital battlefield communications, they did not know at the time how those messages figured in the greater battle strategy.
Today "there's a certain elation about" knowing how much their work affected the outcome of the war, said Little, who runs a family ranch in Crystal, N.M., on the Navajo Nation.
Before the code, the Japanese intercepted and sabotaged U.S. military communications at an alarming rate because they had expert English translators. American forces then devised ever more complicated codes, but that increased the time — sometimes hours — for sending and decoding them.
The code, based on the ancient Navajo language, changed that. In the first 48 hours of the battle of Iwo Jima, six Code Talkers worked nonstop, transmitting and receiving more than 800 messages about troop movement and enemy fire — none deciphered by the Japanese. What confounded the enemy most was that Code Talkers could use distinctly different words for exactly the same message.
Recognition from the U.S. government and awareness of the Code Talkers — even within the Navajo community — has been slow to come. It wasn't until 2000 that the Congressional Gold Medal was bestowed on the survivors of the original 29 Code Talkers and silver medals on the rest.
The 2002 film "Windtalkers," starring Nicolas Cage and Christian Slater as two Marines assigned to protect Code Talkers in Saipan, helped shed further light on the group.
At least five of the Code Talkers died just this year, creating an urgency for the Navajo Code Talkers Foundation to create a museum in their honor in New Mexico, near the Navajo capital of Window Rock, Ariz. It is slated to open sometime in 2012.
Yvonne Murphy, a foundation board member and daughter of Code Talker Raymond R. Smith Sr., who died seven years ago, did not hear of the Code Talkers until she was 16.
"I saw this outfit lying on the bed ... a Marine gold-colored shirt," she said, the uniform of the Code Talkers, laid out with some Navajo jewelry. But it wasn't until she was in her 30s "that I was able to grasp the whole concept," added Murphy, 45.
The Code Talkers in New York this week hope to highlight their efforts and financial needs for the museum.
On Tuesday, they attended a ceremony aboard the USS Intrepid, a World War II warship, to commemorate the 234th anniversary of the Marine Corps. They planned to visit ground zero later in the day.
"Our language was used to help win the war," Holiday said.
"After we're all gone, there will be no one to tell the story."
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On the Net:
United War Veterans Council of NYC: United War Veterans Council of NYC (http://www.unitedwarveterans.org)
Navajo Code Talkers official site: Official Site of the Navajo Code Talkers (http://www.navajocodetalkers.org)

Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091110/ap_on_re_us/us_navajo_code_talkers_10)

[FORD]

And the Navajo weren't the only tribe represented at Iwo Jima.

Ira Hayes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Hayes)

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[Sensible Shoes]

Personal thanks to my father, Charlie (Korea) Uncles Dick, Ed & Jim (Korea, WW2) Grandfather, Elmer (WWI) Great Great Grandfather Joseph (Civil War) 3x Great Grandfather David and Brother Steven, and their father Joshua (Revolutionary War & 1812). All long gone, but they had them all covered. There are cousins who served later, and 2 are in Iraq right now.

They make me proud, and make me wonder why the hell I didn't get some of those genes.

[sadaist]

Eternal thanks to everyone who serves. I really enjoy my freedom and don't thank you guys enough.

I hope you all get a nice fat brand spankin' new Van Halen cd this next year.

[standin]

A prayer for all touched by war and peace.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/1386153_76f8a321e9.jpg
Photo by Greg Eans

[Nickdfresh]

The following site has a list or participating restaurants giving away free meals, apps, or coffee to American veterans and active duty military personnel:

http://freebies.about.com/od/freefood/tp/veterans-day-free-meals.htm