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LoungeMachine
11-14-2006, 10:02 AM
Gunmen grab up to 150 from Baghdad research institute
POSTED: 9:12 a.m. EST, November 14, 2006



BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Gunmen clad in Iraqi National Police uniforms kidnapped between 100 and 150 people at a government research institute in Baghdad Tuesday morning, forcing the minister of higher education to order universities closed until security improves.

The daytime raid involved up to 80 gunmen and targeted the Ministry of Higher Education and Scientific Research -- Scholarships and Cultural Relations Directorate building, Minister Abed Dhiyab al-Ajili told parliament.

He said he had "no choice but to stop the teaching in the universities in Baghdad, adding he is "not ready to see more professors get killed." (Watch what the directorate looked like after more than 100 people were kidnapped -- 2:32 )

The directorate had a guard force that numbered about 20, with a handful of weapons among them -- not enough to resist the abductors -- al-Ajili said.

Authorities deplored the act, and the United Nations issued a condemnation.

The kidnappers surrounded the four-story building along Nidhal Street with at least 20 vehicles, taking captive guards, employees and civilians, al-Ajili said.

"They took 100 to 150 people, including employees from different ranks starting from manager and down to the cleaning workers and normal citizens," the minister said.

The gunmen separated the men from the women, locking the women in a room, while loading the men into vehicles before making their escape, al-Ajili said.

Al-Ajili said he had sent a letter to Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki last week, asking for better protection for universities and education buildings. The defense and interior ministers had rejected earlier requests for 800 university guards, he said.

The U.N. secretary-general's special representative in Iraq, Ashraf Qazi, called the kidnapping "a nefarious crime," saying it "could dangerously and negatively effect progress and development in Iraq, a country long known for its literary and scientific tradition."

Qazi urged Iraqi officials "to immediately and inexorably pursue those responsible, free the abductees and ensure the sanctity of higher education."

Bombers kill 12 in Baghdad
In addition to the mass kidnapping, two bombing attacks rocked Baghdad Tuesday afternoon, leaving 12 people dead and nearly three dozen more wounded, police told CNN.

The first blast took place at 1:30 p.m. in the central Baghdad section of Amin, killing 10 people and wounding 25 others near the busy Shurja market.

The second bombing occurred at 2 p.m. in eastern Baghdad, killing two people and wounding 10 others at a bus station.

The attacks come a day after a suicide bomber wearing an explosives belt blew himself up inside a bus in northeastern Baghdad, killing 10 people and wounding 17 others, emergency police said. It was one of several deadly incidents Monday. (Full story)

Hospital official: U.S. operation kills 25 says
A U.S. military operation in Ramadi left 25 people dead Monday night, a hospital official told CNN, adding that U.S. tank fire destroyed several houses in the city's Dhubat district.

The U.S. military had no comment about the incident, which was said to have occurred around 8 p.m.

Some people were killed while trying to recover the dead and help the wounded, witnesses told CNN.

Fierce fighting has persisted between insurgents and U.S. and Iraqi troops for months in Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province about 60 miles (100 kilometers) west of Baghdad. The volatile region is Sunni-dominated.

The developments coincided with the deaths of six people during fighting late Monday between U.S. troops and members of the Shiite Mehdi militia in Baghdad, police in Baghdad told CNN.

The operations centered on the Shula neighborhood and involved a search for members of the militia, which is led by anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

As fighting erupted, the military deployed helicopters and the ensuing airstrikes killed six people and wounded 13 others, police said.

It is not clear if the operation was related to the search for Spc. Ahmed K. Altaie, the Iraqi-American translator who was kidnapped in Baghdad on October 23.

The coalition has offered up to $50,000 for information leading to his "recovery," according to the U.S. military last week.

Other developments

Civil rights activists filed a criminal lawsuit Tuesday seeking a war crimes investigation of former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and other top Bush administration officials. (Full story)


British Prime Minister Tony Blair challenged Iran and Syria on Monday to help stabilize Iraq or face isolation as Washington and London review their strategy in Iraq. (Full story)


With a top Democrat calling for a "phased redeployment" of U.S. troops in Iraq, President Bush met Monday with a commission studying the war and said conditions in Iraq, not politics, would dictate troop levels there. (Full story)


Australian Prime Minister John Howard said on Monday talks should be held with Syria and Iran on ending the violence in Iraq, lending support to the British proposal to engage both nations despite U.S. criticism. (Full story)

CNN's Mohammed Tawfeeq and Ingrid Formanek contributed to this report.

LoungeMachine
11-14-2006, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine




BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Gunmen clad in Iraqi National Police uniforms





Great.

No infiltration problems there......:mad:

DEMON CUNT
11-14-2006, 09:06 PM
The men in uniform have been trained and armed by Americans. After their police training they desert and join the insurgency.

What about all the good things that come form kidnapping 150 people? I don't see the liberal press reporting on that.

Nickdfresh
11-15-2006, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by DEMON ####
The men in uniform have been trained and armed by Americans. After their police training they desert and join the insurgency.

What about all the good things that come form kidnapping 150 people? I don't see the liberal press reporting on that.

Actually, they're members of pro-Iranian militias we helped train --acting as death squads.

ULTRAMAN VH
11-15-2006, 08:22 AM
This kind of behavior will never end due to the tribalistic society in Iraq. These tribes have been fighting for hundreds of years.

DEMON CUNT
11-15-2006, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
This kind of behavior will never end due to the tribalistic society in Iraq. These tribes have been fighting for hundreds of years.

Human beings have been fighting for millions of years.

DEMON CUNT
11-15-2006, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Actually, they're members of pro-Iranian militias we helped train --acting as death squads.

And that is different how?

Steve Savicki
11-15-2006, 09:00 AM
Most are free now:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

Most of the people abducted in a brazen raid on the offices of the Higher Education Ministry have been released, Iraqi's prime minister said Wednesday, but officials were unable to say how many remained captive.

Dozens of people were taken Tuesday, the men handcuffed and loaded aboard about 20 pickup trucks, by gunmen dressed in the uniforms of Interior Ministry commandos.

"Most of the hostages were freed, but that is not enough for us. We will chase those who did this ugly criminal act," Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said, as he met professors and students at Baghdad University to show of support for the country's educational institutions. "We regret what happened yesterday. The government's reaction was strong."

Government ministries have given wildly varying figures on the number of kidnap victims in the assault in central Baghdad, with reports ranging from a high of about 150 to a low of 40 to 50.

"The (Higher Education) ministry confirms the release of a group of employees, guards, visitors who were kidnapped yesterday. The information available to the ministry indicates that the number of the people released as of Wednesday morning is about 40. There is another group that is still held," the ministry said in a statement.

Some Iraqis said the kidnappers were dressed in new digitally marked uniforms for the Interior Ministry forces that are made in the United States. But U.S. Maj. Gen. Joseph F. Fil, Jr., commanding general of the 1st Cavalry Division, which took control of security operations in Baghdad on Wednesday from the 4th Infantry Division, denied that.

"We don't know what uniforms they had on. ... We are virtually certain they are not those uniforms. Those are hard to get hold of, as they should be. We do not believe they were those new digital uniforms," Fil told reporters.

Such uniforms are designed to overcome the persistent problem in Baghdad and elsewhere in
Iraq of militia and death squad members using stolen or counterfeit Interior Ministry uniforms to gain access to commit crimes and killings.

Elsewhere, a series of attacks killed at least 20 Iraqis, including two journalists, and wounded 47 on Wednesday.

The U.S. military also announced the combat deaths of four troops — a soldier and three Marines — in the insurgent stronghold of Anbar Province, raising the number of American war dead to 2,856. The four, who all died Tuesday, were a soldier assigned to 1st Brigade, 1st Armored Division, and the three Marines assigned to Regimental Combat Team 7.

Wednesday's deadliest attack involved a car bomb that killed at least 11 people and wounded at least 32 near a gasoline station in central Baghdad's Bab Shargi area, police Lt. Bilal Ali said.

Meanwhile, Iraqi officials continued to offer varying figures regarding the kidnappings at the Higher Education Ministry on Tuesday.

Government spokesman Ali al Dabbagh said 37 people were released and a smaller but unspecified number were still in captivity, state-run Iraqiyah television said.

The Higher Education Ministry said the confusion over the number of victims arose out of the difficulties in determining just how many employees, guards and visitors were in the building during the assault.

A government official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information, said there still was no exact number available.

Police Lt. Mohammed Kheyoun said, however, that "about 15 to 20 persons are still held by the kidnappers. The search for them is under way, and we hope that we will find them in suspected areas in eastern Baghdad."

Al-Jazeera, the Arabic-language network, quoted Maha Abdullah, a woman described as a sister of one of the captives, as saying he and at least 10 other people remained in custody.

"The government's news that most of them were released is false," Abdullah said.

The two Iraqi journalists who were gunned down died in northern Iraq.

In Mosul, gunmen intercepted the car of journalist Fadia Mohammed al-Taie, killing her and her driver, police said. Al-Taie worked as a reporter for the independent weekly newspaper al-Massar.

In Baqouba, Luma al-Karkhi, who worked for the independent weekly al-Dustor, was shot dead while on her way to work.

With the slayings of al-Taie and al-Karkhi, at least 91 journalists have been killed in Iraq since hostilities began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count based on statistics kept by the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists. Also, 36 other media employees, including drivers, interpreters and guards, have been killed — all of them Iraqi except for one Lebanese.

In other violence Wednesday:

_A suicide bomber drove his car into a tent where a funeral was being held in the mostly Sunni-Arab neighborhood of Dora in southern Baghdad, killing three people and wounding 15.

_A former member of
Saddam Hussein's Baath Party was gunned down outside his home in the city of Kut.

_Two Shiites were killed by gunmen who set fire to their home in southern Baghdad.

_In the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, gunmen killed a police officer in a drive-by shooting as he was heading to work.

_Three bodies, blindfolded with their hands and legs tied, were found by police in east Baghdad.

Lqskdiver
11-15-2006, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Human beings have been fighting for millions of years.

Hell, I had no idea we'd been on this planet for so long!! Maybe you're theory is that we came from another planet, much like yourself, you fucking Cliing-on!

:D

Lqskdiver
11-15-2006, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Gunmen grab up to 150 from Baghdad research institute
POSTED: 9:12 a.m. EST, November 14, 2006



BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Gunmen clad in Iraqi National Police uniforms kidnapped between 100 and 150 people at a government research institute in Baghdad Tuesday morning, forcing the minister of higher education to order universities closed until security improves.


You know, serves them right being kidnapped! And it's a good thing they closed the universities. Who the hell do these people think they are acquiring knowledge!! As if they'd know how to use it!!



:sarcasm:

DEMON CUNT
11-16-2006, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Hell, I had no idea we'd been on this planet for so long!! Maybe you're theory is that we came from another planet, much like yourself, you fucking Cliing-on!


Didn't you pay attention in school? Or do you subscribe to some archaic faith that tells you that the earth is a mere 6000 years old?

ULTRAMAN VH
11-16-2006, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
You know, serves them right being kidnapped! And it's a good thing they closed the universities. Who the hell do these people think they are acquiring knowledge!! As if they'd know how to use it!!



:sarcasm:

Exactly!! What better way to keep Iraq in a constant state of Chaos than to further eliminate the education of its citizens. They are already a hundred years behind the times.

Lqskdiver
11-16-2006, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Didn't you pay attention in school? Or do you subscribe to some archaic faith that tells you that the earth is a mere 6000 years old?

Even though findings of early human ancestry are dated at least 4 million years ago, they are considered hominids and not human.

Obviously your very keen perception of what transpired million years ago is way beyond anyone elses around here. Perhaps you can enlighten us as to how "Lucy" actually died.

Maybe the BCE's ever expanding reach had her killed in order to prevent the first liberal (femineolithic) cavewoman from taxing the wealthier primates who dwelled in much more lavish caves.



:D

LoungeMachine
11-16-2006, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Exactly!! What better way to keep Iraq in a constant state of Chaos than to further eliminate the education of its citizens. They are already a hundred years behind the times.


Yet somehow, still smarter than you......

LoungeMachine
11-16-2006, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
You know, serves them right being kidnapped! And it's a good thing they closed the universities. Who the hell do these people think they are acquiring knowledge!! As if they'd know how to use it!!



:sarcasm:




Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Exactly!! What better way to keep Iraq in a constant state of Chaos than to further eliminate the education of its citizens. They are already a hundred years behind the times.


Have someone explain the meaning of SARCASM to you, you fucking brainless dolt. :rolleyes:


Jesus H Christ do we need to implement minimum IQ levels in this forum now?

DEMON CUNT
11-16-2006, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Even though findings of early human ancestry are dated at least 4 million years ago, they are considered hominids and not human.

Pardon me, Professor Blows Himself.

I should say that animals (including hominids and humans) have been fighting for centuries.

Seshmeister
11-17-2006, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Exactly!! What better way to keep Iraq in a constant state of Chaos than to further eliminate the education of its citizens. They are already a hundred years behind the times.

So what Weapons of Mass Destruction were they meant to have had.

Fucking gatling guns?

ULTRAMAN VH
11-17-2006, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
So what Weapons of Mass Destruction were they meant to have had.

Fucking gatling guns?

I was not speaking of WMD's. When human beings are educated and have common sense, they are less apt to go strapping bombs to themselves and or their children.

LoungeMachine
11-17-2006, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
I was not speaking of WMD's. When human beings are educated and have common sense, they are less apt to go strapping bombs to themselves and or their children.


:rolleyes:

You think this has to do with education levels?


You really are clueless.

Lqskdiver
11-17-2006, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:rolleyes:

You think this has to do with education levels?


You really are clueless.

That makes you a nice pair!

Arm yourself with education.

;)

LoungeMachine
11-17-2006, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
That makes you a nice pair!

Arm yourself with education.

;)


Guns don't kill people.

Hatred and Religious Zealots kill people.

And poverty stricken children of religious zealots who are taught to hate kill people.



But please don't lump me in with UltraVAG. I'd kill myself in a jihad if I was as dumb as that fucking stump. :mad:

Nickdfresh
11-18-2006, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by DEMON ####
And that is different how?

The difference is that the insurgency you speak of is mostly Sunni led, and the Shia death squads target just that.

Nickdfresh
11-18-2006, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
This kind of behavior will never end due to the tribalistic society in Iraq. These tribes have been fighting for hundreds of years.

The 'behavior' has to do with post-colonialism, and artificial countries created by British military surveyors...

Nickdfresh
11-18-2006, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Exactly!! What better way to keep Iraq in a constant state of Chaos than to further eliminate the education of its citizens. They are already a hundred years behind the times.

Actually, they're one of the most educated societies in the middle east --a big reason why they were invaded in order to spread the glorious concepts of democracy...

ODShowtime
11-18-2006, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
This kind of behavior will never end due to the tribalistic society in Iraq.

that is correct