Dennis DeYoung was a Freddie Mercury rip-off faggot.

[rustoffa]

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[rustoffa]

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[FORD]

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[Coyote]

As if you need to prove of that?

Styx vs. Queen = McDonalds vs. any steakhouse.

[Terry]

Coyote nailed it.

Styx I could always take or leave, and while I'm not a diehard Queen fan either, there's no question in my mind that Queen left behind a far more substantive body of work than Styx, who are pretty much a kitschy 70s act for me now at BEST.

[Diamondjimi]

There's simply no comparison!

Styx - American pop rock with a couple of decent albums (Cornerstone+Grand Illusion) DeYoung flushed their career down the shitter with his Mr. Roboto garbage. Nice move guy.

Queen - Rock innovators with legendary status. Only a couple of lame lp's to their name (Hot Space+ Body Language)Freddies fault....

Innuendo- Fuckin brilliant album+ single. Great classical break performed by Steve Howe .........

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Had Freddie lived they would have conquered America again...

R.I.P.

[The_KiD]

Yea, there really is no comparison between the bands IMO.. Styx had some great songs back in the day but what I liked was definitely from the Tommy Shaw side of the camp... Dennis turned the band into a ballad-hit making machine and ultimately ruined the band due to his quest for complete artistic control...

Tommy Shaw, JY, and the others are definitely talented musicians IMO.. It is a shame they could not have just kept on being a rock & roll band..

Are any them on Freddie Mecury's level.. Not a chance..

KiD

[Hardrock69]

Styx is a crappy, lame, half-wit, pale imitation of what they figure Queen was all about...
:rolleyes:

[Revan]

All of the flaming towards Dennis goes to show that nobody here really knows any actual history in regards to Styx, or what kind of success that album (Kilroy) was at the time. Proof towards that fact - what's happened with Styx since they kicked Dennis out?

Absolutely nothing. Tommy Shaw and James Young haven't been able to do anything with that band, and they've been relegated to complete joke status without Dennis' involvement.

The greatest hits albums of 1995 and 1996 sold very well, the Return to Paradise tour and album was a big hit with audiences and fans, and even Brave New World (as bad as that album was) actually sold pretty well at first, considering how much inactivity there had been on the Styx front over the years. Once word got out that it was a pile of doo, and that Dennis was out, oddly enough everything seemed to dry up for Styx.

They played local to me a few years back, and I went (with free tickets) just to see what was what - less than 30 people were there. Probably about 15 or 20. That's life in Styx post-Dennis DeYoung.

Styx had the number one album of 1981 (Paradise Theater), Kilroy Was Here also did good business and was actually a huge hit for them. It was a stupid concept, yeah, but Queen's guilty of just as much (if not more) stupidity over the years.

Examples?

Everything Queen recorded from 1981 and after was essentially garbage compared to everything that had come before it (Hot Space? Poop. The Works? The only thing on that worth listening to is I Want to Break Free, other than that the whole album's a toss. A Kind of Magic? Half-assed...very weak. The Miracle? Disposable fluff. Innuendo? Unengaging to say the very least. Mr. Bad Guy? You must be kidding...).

No denying that Queen was still really popular overseas, but considering the kind of crap they were releasing in the 80's, it's no surprise at all that America totally lost touch with them until Wayne's World brought them back into the spotlight.

The fact that Brian May's parading the name of Queen around these days (when it's basically nothing more than his solo band) is ridiculous. It's not even remotely Queen.

In regards to Styx, though....

The Roboto concept was a band decision that was made, meaning James and Tommy (and to a lesser degree, Chuck and John) got onboard with the idea as well. If they didn't want to pursue the Kilroy project, they could have shot it down at any time with a majority vote, as all parties in Styx past and present agree that everything was a decided on a majority vote basis. The fact is, they didn't shoot it down, they got onboard, and they had a huge hit with the singles and the album.

Yeah, it's silly to look at 23 odd years later, but to have James and Tommy sit there and talk shit about the project and put all the blame on Dennis for it is stupid, considering they all were involved with it. As usual, there's more than enough blame to go around in regards to Styx's mistakes, but the easy role is to dump it all on Dennis' head, since he's actually got enough decency and maturity not to stoop to their level of name calling and baseless insults (a la James Young).

Dennis' solo albums are the only outside-of-Styx albums worth listening to. James and Tommy can't write to save their lives on their own, unless you think Damn Yankees was something to write home about. Desert Moon was a hit in 1984 - neither James or Tommy or anybody else from Styx has ever had a solo hit on their own.

James Young can't give an interview anymore without trash talking Dennis and cutting him down at any given opportunity he can, it's like he's obsessed with degrading Dennis at any opportunity he can. Honestly, out of somebody his age, it makes him look awfully stupid and petty.

James is pathetic and the fact that Tommy puts up with it is even more so. The fact that there's even a "Styx" today without one single original member in it is ridiculous, and the world of Styx is even more screwed up and ridiculous than the world of Van Halen.

Frankly, though, at the bottom heart of it, James, Tommy and Dennis are all incredible musicians, great composers and spectacular songwriters. Queen was a more progressive-minded band than Styx was, but to insinuate that Styx was trying to rip off Queen is a somewhat foolish assumption and not really based in reality. Queen was great up until about 1981, as was Styx.

After that, in regards to recorded material, they both pretty well pooped out and the tank was mostly empty. But Queen and Styx both left behind a remarkable body of work, and there's absolutely no denying that. Both Queen's and Styx's back catalog still holds up to this day, and I'm a fan of both bands - to a point.

Having met Dennis...I can say that the man is real, genuine, very cool and quite the comedian. He has a upbeat personality and is a really engaging character. Very down to Earth and easy to talk to, doesn't have the "superstar" attitude that other musicians do.

Honestly, he's very friendly with everybody and I can't honestly think of one bad thing to say about him.

So, as the opposing viewpoint to this debate...there you go.

[bluemustard]

I don't know who de fuck Dennis deYoung is but knowbody can fuck with Freddie...I saw him once in concert with queen..
100% pure shit..uncutt

[Hardrock69]

Facts are Facts.
Dennis DeYoung RUINED a once great rock band.

Like REO Speedwagon, Styx began there career as a rock band.

Playing ROCK music.

Then they fell victim to the pressure from ther record label, and Dennis DeYoung was already sucking the cocks of everyone in the A & R department.

Much like Kevin Cronin, and his ruination of a good band.

I saw REO on the last tour where they could be considered an actual rock band, and that was in July of 1977, in Columbia, S.C.

After that they became a sellout pop band full of pussies, just like Styx did.

Anyone who defends Dennis DeYoung is a homo loser cocksucker.
:rolleyes:

[bueno bob]

Well...you can't blame DeYoung for all of Styx's faults. Like the guy says, there's plenty enough blame to go around, and both Tommy Shaw and James Young are complete assholes as well. Ever since they dumped Dennis, they've done nothing to re-establish Styx as a viable act, instead they've went the Beach Boys route, playing casinos and state fairs...it's pointless for them to keep Styx (or whatever remains of it) going, but yet they do. Nobody cares but them, I guess.

Moreover the general public doesn't care anyway, but without Dennis, Styx loses whatever credibility it had remaining in the eyes of whatever remains of it's fanbase. The average Styx fan from back in the day won't have any interest if Dennis isn't involved, because he was always the face and voice of the band.

Dennis was not a Freddie Mercury clone, though...just to throw that out there, because there's miles apart musically. Dennis does shit completely different, Dennis and Freddie wrote completely differently, although band against band there's a few similarities...not enough to merit an eye to eye comparison, though. It's like comparing Ozzy against Robert Plant...you can't really do it even though they're from the same sort of school...

Styx had a lot of great material, but it dried up in '81. They should have split after Paradise Theater - great album that it was, and the last thing they ever did that was worth anything.

Dennis is doing what suits him now, and that's a more orchestral sort of thing, which is cool if you're into that. He also goes out and plays oddball, non-hit Styx stuff from time to time, even stuff off of the first four albums, which Styx itself will never do apart from "Lady". So I'll give Dennis credit enough for doing something different, plus he's never talked any shit about either Tommy or James - by comparison, Tommy and James don't know when to shut their fucking mouths and they look like idiots.

Styx is a thing of the past, anyway...as is Queen...but I'm a fan of both bands on different levels, so I can't really pick a favorite between them. Have a lot of good memories with both bands, actually.

[bueno bob]

It'll be interesting to see what Vin has to say about this, he's a fairly big Styx fan as well...

[EbDawson]

Originally posted by Revan
neither James or Tommy or anybody else from Styx has ever had a solo hit on their own.



Are you insane? Don't you remember Shaw's "Girls With Guns"? :D

[EbDawson]

Originally posted by bueno bob
instead they've went the Beach Boys route, playing casinos and state fairs...it's pointless for them to keep Styx (or whatever remains of it) going

Regardless of how you feel how Shaw/Young's Styx, let's drop the "casino" card. Dave plays them, so do alot of great bands, fact is, those Injuns pay well.

[Mr Badguy]

What`s with all the "Mr Roboto" bashing?

Have you ever listened to it stoned?

It`s so bad, it`s GOOD.

[Revan]

It's not a bad album, honestly. Mr. Roboto gets most of the flack for it, but if you're to listen honestly to the rest of the album, there are actually quite a few good songs. Cold War, High Time, and Haven't We Been Here Before aren't great, but Don't Let it End is OK...Heavy Metal Poisoning is actually pretty kick ass, reminiscent of old Styx in parts. Just Get Through This Night is fair, and Double Life is alright. It's honestly a 50/50 album and nowhere near as good as Paradise Theater was (which was honestly an exceptionally good album, and I don't care who thinks otherwise), but it's not as bad as Mr. Roboto would suggest it to be, in my eyes.

[Jack68]

Styx is a thing of the past, anyway...as is Queen...but I'm a fan of both bands on different levels, so I can't really pick a favorite between them. Have a lot of good memories with both bands, actually.
No offense bro and i do hear what your saying But to put Queen and styx in the same past tense is laughable.Freddie Mercury is an icon a legend an ispiration and a gay as hell man.Dennis Deyoung is ..whatevewr ..broadway..crybaby..gay..he ruined a great rock n roll band .Im glad the band decided to cash in and give him the boot,why did he quit anyway? Do you know?Queen and styx are like night and day.

[Jack68]

Regardless of how you feel how Shaw/Young's Styx, let's drop the "casino" card. Dave plays them, so do alot of great bands, fact is, those Injuns pay well.
Exactly.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Jack68
Dennis Deyoung is ..whatevewr ..broadway..crybaby..gay..he ruined a great rock n roll band .Im glad the band decided to cash in and give him the boot,why did he quit anyway?

He claimed he was allergic to sunlight.
:rolleyes:

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by rustoffa
He claimed he was allergic to sunlight.
:rolleyes:

:lol:

[EbDawson]

Originally posted by Jack68
Dennis Deyoung is ..gay.

No, that is the bass player, the Panazzo dude, Chuck or John, I keep getting their names mixed up.

[Jack68]

Originally posted by rustoffa
He claimed he was allergic to sunlight.
:rolleyes:

You serious?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Jack68
You serious?

Yeah. Actually, it's called "photo-sensitivity" and it's a real condition. Not that I know whether or not Dennis actually had it or not.

More info here. (http://dermnetnz.org/reactions/photosensitivity.html)

[Hardrock69]

At least by him leaving we never were subjected to the pussification of Styx ever again. I hung out with the guys briefly on their Return To Paradise Tour in the 90s, when they were still playing arenas.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Jack68
You serious?

I wouldn't call it serious. I mean, how can anyone be serious regarding Dennis DeYoung? Anyway, FORD's description of the dipshit's imagined cuntdition is what it is.

He fucking said he was allergic to sunlight when asked what put an end to his tenure with Styx.

Let's all sing along!!!

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[Revan]

To bottom line it -

He was sick, and James and Tommy ganged up on him and fired him from the band he formed. Wasn't their band, but by the time he had recovered and the doctors OKed him to tour, they'd replaced him with some kid from Canada and everything they've done since has fallen on it's rear end.

[Revan]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
At least by him leaving we never were subjected to the pussification of Styx ever again.

I wouldn't say that. The band still plays a lot of Dennis' stuff live, in case you weren't aware. Dennis' material that they don't play...well, look at the Styx message boards and see how many people complain - and I'll save you the effort and tell you that it's a whole lot and Styx's live setlist is really derided for being a "history revision" on the part of James and Tommy.

I can't understand your logic, honestly...if you don't like Dennis, that's fine, but saying Styx is now a 'rocking'/'non-pussy' band without Dennis is an odd statement. You can site the fact that they don't play anything from the Kilroy album, but they didn't do that after 1984, anyway.

The band just is not Styx...they've managed to accomplish one album of original material, one album of covers, two or three best of albums and six or seven live albums since they fired Dennis in '99 and on each release it's painfully obvious that this is a band without a center and is essentially directionless.

[Revan]

Originally posted by EbDawson
No, that is the bass player, the Panazzo dude, Chuck or John, I keep getting their names mixed up.

Chuck - gay bassist.

John - dead drummer.

Just for clarification :)

[Revan]

Originally posted by Jack68
No offense bro and i do hear what your saying But to put Queen and styx in the same past tense is laughable.Freddie Mercury is an icon a legend an ispiration and a gay as hell man.Dennis Deyoung is ..whatevewr ..broadway..crybaby..gay..he ruined a great rock n roll band .Im glad the band decided to cash in and give him the boot,why did he quit anyway? Do you know?Queen and styx are like night and day.

Freddie Mercury is an enduring icon in regards to a musician and inspiration for gay people, I'll give you that. In my eyes, though, Queen's classic work, musically, was done prior to 1981 and nothing after that really amounted to anything, although they did remain very popular throughout the rest of the world after that. Personally, I thought everything from the Flash Gordon soundtrack and up was pretty much fluff and not really up to par in regards to what Queen was about throughout the 70's. I feel much the same about Styx - after 1981, they never did anything worth while.

Folks, Dennis was one of Styx's founders and probably THE major writer - he did nothing to "ruin" the band.

Styx ruined itself and everybody in Styx had an equal vote in doing so - erego, everybody was responsible.

They could have been a viable touring nostalgia act today, but Tommy Shaw and especially James Young ruined that, because what "Styx" is today is about what Deep Purple 1980 was - not anything close.

[monkeythe]

I just find it amusing that everyone is calling DeYoung a faggot and gay as a way to bash him for not being as good as Freddy Mercury. I mean there are some rumors that Freddy might possibly have been gay

[pflo]

Originally posted by rustoffa
Exhibit 1:

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[rustoffa]

Originally posted by monkeythe
I just find it amusing that everyone is calling DeYoung a faggot and gay as a way to bash him for not being as good as Freddy Mercury. I mean there are some rumors that Freddy might possibly have been gay

I'd like to take this opporotunity to apologize for the thread title. I mean, who are we to lampoon a goddamned jackass like DeYoung?

Face it.

While we're sitting wherever we are, DeYoung has already sailed away with an angry young man....to the motherfucking paradise theater. Oh?

YOU DIDN'T KNOW?

Welp, now you do. That's right, Dennis DeYoung tossed prog to the curb, then tossed dudes' asses. It's no fucking Grand Illusion....he left Babe for the Renegade. Mr. Roboto??? Goddamn...bring on the faggot hydraulics!!!

Fuck it...DeYoung was a talentless faggot.
:rolleyes:

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by pflo
get a life you piece of internet shit.At least he didnt sit at the computer all day and did something with his life....you faggot.

Thanks for the input! In the spirit of the season, would you mind throwing some of that loose change in the bucket?
:confused:

[pflo]

Originally posted by rustoffa
Thanks for the input! In the spirit of the season, would you mind throwing some of that loose change in the bucket?
:confused: I got some loose semen I can throw in your mouth,Dave wannabe!

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by pflo
I got some loose semen I can throw in your mouth,Dave wannabe!

Wow! You're fucking really getting into the fagott deal!! So, If you got loose semen...are you fixin' to scrape off the floor?

Did you mean loose stool?

[pflo]

Originally posted by rustoffa
Wow! You're fucking really getting into the fagott deal!! So, If you got loose semen...are you fixin' to scrape off the floor?

Did you mean loose stool? Its "faggot", and if you prefer a stool sample, well,I,ll save that for Brett a VHLINKS. But the face shot is still available....

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by pflo
Its "faggot", and if you prefer a stool sample, well,I,ll save that for Brett a VHLINKS. But the face shot is still available....

Sorry 'bout that, "faggot."

Here's the thing.

If you don't have the moxy to understand the board? Kill yourself. I mean like right fucking now.

You see, we don't have time for really serious stuff over here.

Hang on, I'll show you what I mean.

[Revan]

Well, regardless of opinions to the contrary, the facts honestly speak for themselves - Styx buried itself, and Dennis is guilty, sure. So is James Young, just as much as Dennis. And Tommy Shaw is guilty, just as much as James and Dennis. And the other two culprits were Chuck and John Panozzo.

Reason being? Every member of Styx back then has (or had) attested to the fact that everything that the band did was done at a vote. Every decision, every song that was either dropped for an album or included, everything was decided by way of a majority vote. Nobody has ever denied that, so there's no logical reason anybody has to disbelieve it. The Mr. Roboto/Kilroy Was Here concept was an album by STYX, NOT Dennis DeYoung - erego, the blame lies on STYX, which means ALL OF THEM. If James and Tommy, your heroes, were such "rockers", maybe they'd have put the kabosh on the concept?

Well, they didn't, did they?

And guess what? Kilroy Was Here was one of the best selling albums of 1983, it was a huge success for them, and they made buckets of money off of it. You still hear Styx on classic rock radio today (and yes, that includes the song Mr. Roboto), and it lives on as a bit of a cultural icon in and of itself, even to this day.

Am I speaking slowly enough?

Nobody has come up yet with even one singularly logical argument as to why blaming Dennis for Styx's fallout post 1983 is the accurate thing to do, short of some kind of personal dislike for the man. Personal dislike of a musician is fine (there are certainly a few I don't like), but if you're going to blame a musician for the demise of a whole band, you should be able to back it up with something a little more substantial than "Well, he's a faggot, so obviously it's his fault".

For those of you not in the know, he's been married to the same woman since...1969, 1970...somewhere in that vicinity, and has several kids, so I'm really inclined to disbelieve all of your protestations that he's "gay". Odd that you'd use the word "faggot" when talking about Dennis and boosting Freddie Mercury, though, but moreover it's just indicitive that this thread was pure stupidity at it's finest from the onset.

So far, Dennis' naysayers in this thread have had nothing more concrete to offer from that. Which is fine; this message board seems to have more than it's fair share of racists and homophobes, so...it is what it is...

In essence, I've made my point - nobody else apparently has one, so carry on with your misguided selves, don't let rational debate get in the way.

:rolleyes:

[EbDawson]

Originally posted by Revan
Every member of Styx back then has (or had) attested to the fact that everything that the band did was done at a vote. Every decision, every song that was either dropped for an album or included, everything was decided by way of a majority vote. Nobody has ever denied that, so there's no logical reason anybody has to disbelieve it. The Mr. Roboto/Kilroy Was Here concept was an album by STYX, NOT Dennis DeYoung - erego, the blame lies on STYX, which means ALL OF THEM.

You still hear Styx on classic rock radio today (and yes, that includes the song Mr. Roboto), and it lives on as a bit of a cultural icon in and of itself, even to this day.



Lots of Styx on the radio but it's been years since I heard Mr. Roboto, I doubt that's being played nowadays.

The Robot concept was DeYoung's, and that is what eventually caused Shaw to leave the band which was really the beginning of the end. It wasn't just the album but performing the Roboto/Kilroy concept on stage during the tour. Shaw talks about that, kind of funny actually, in Styx's behind the music, the Texxas Jamm '83 fiasco.

We're probably taking all this too seriously though, Styx sold millions of records in the late 70's, early 80's. No guarantee they would've continued to do so if Roboto had never happened. They would be still playing to fairly large audiences though. Would be neat for them to get back together for a tour. Appears that Panazzo has beaten his illness for the time being. Not likely any time soon I guess.

[Revan]

Originally posted by EbDawson
Lots of Styx on the radio but it's been years since I heard Mr. Roboto, I doubt that's being played nowadays.

It's probably a market to market deal...I still hear it on occasion.

The Robot concept was DeYoung's, and that is what eventually caused Shaw to leave the band which was really the beginning of the end. It wasn't just the album but performing the Roboto/Kilroy concept on stage during the tour. Shaw talks about that, kind of funny actually, in Styx's behind the music, the Texxas Jamm '83 fiasco.

I'd like to see that, actually. The way I see it, though, they all voted to do it and it was a success at the time (although admittedly silly now). It was definitely the last straw where Styx was concerned...seeing people bash Dennis for it, even if it was indeed his concept, seems silly considering James, Tommy and the Panozzo's didn't have to go along with it if they didn't want to...which brings me back to square one, there's more than enough blame to go around in regards to all things Styx...no one person should have to shoulder all of it.

We're probably taking all this too seriously though, Styx sold millions of records in the late 70's, early 80's. No guarantee they would've continued to do so if Roboto had never happened.

Probably not. Guns 'n' Roses, Metallica, Megadeth, and Van Halen managed to hang on through the "Rock Fallout" of the '90's, but very few others did. Even if they'd stayed around and went back to the classic Styx sound in the '80's (which probably wouldn't have happened, even if they'd soldiered on), they'd probably have suffered as much as everybody else did.

They would be still playing to fairly large audiences though. Would be neat for them to get back together for a tour. Appears that Panazzo has beaten his illness for the time being. Not likely any time soon I guess.

I think they would, too. They had a remarkably good turnout for the tours in 1990 and 1996/1997, but after Dennis was gone, pretty much anybody who still cared quit...

With the way James and Tommy talk about him (even refusing to use him name, calling him "That Other Guy" in interviews), I doubt there's any sort of reconciliation on the horizon. Too bad, honestly.

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by pflo
get a life you piece of internet shit.At least he didnt sit at the computer all day and did something with his life....you faggot,Here we are 25 years later and you are talking about it, do you think in 25 years anyone will talk about a piece of shit moderator from an internet site? GOOF.....waste of blood, indeed.Another lonely Saturday night with your right hand, champ?

Tsk,tsk , no respect.
Smackdown time Russ.........

[pflo]

Why hide behind "Russ" you sychophant? Cant speak for yourself? lame...........internet wankers

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by pflo
Why hide behind "Russ" you sychophant? Cant speak for yourself? lame...........internet wankers

It'd be real easy to chalk your shit-for-brains bravado up to disdain for the subject matter. It's obvious you could care less about Dennis DeYoung's musical viability. No, there's something else driving this surprising outburst. Lemme ask you point blank:

DID DENNIS DeYOUNG BUST A NUT ON YOUR DAD'S FACE?

See, I'm getting this whole "childhood scarification" vibe from your posts.

Get it together....fate wasn't yours to dictate. Just bang that sub-freudian shit back.
:cool:

[pflo]

My didsdain boils down to your use of the word "faggot" as a putdown,when the guy you are comparing the subject to is also a "faggot" WTF is your problem.Why are the mods always the most insecure pricks of the bunch? I know..cause they have NO LIFE! Do you think Roth would respect of approve of you callin Mercury a faggot? Whats with the name calling anyway? this is 2006, not 1976, grow the fuck up. YES ,I have disdain for ignorance, and your thread has that in spades. Im no styx fan, but they sold a shitload and they still have cultural resonance, good or bad, 30 years later, calling the singer a faggot is outta line. The only thing similar in the two clips is two guys playng a fuckin piano anyways, whats the point, are you just really bored? Choke on that, and then ban me and feel all big and stuff.......Fuckwad. (BTW- just so you know, your not Dave and your not poetic like Dave, and your not witty like Dave,and truth be told, Dave probably thinks your a putz. )

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by pflo
My didsdain boils down to your use of the word "faggot" as a putdown,when the guy you are comparing the subject to is also a "faggot" WTF is your problem.

It was MOTHERFUCKING SITUATIONAL IRONY AS A GODDAMNED JOKE! You wanna delve into some cuntplex shit? Try the ever popular gay singers' being englishmen thread. Search for it you BRAIN DEAD MOTHERFUCKER. Unlike you, I'm secure enough to say shit like that without coming off as an insecure FAGGOT!

After you find that thread? After the true cuntplexities of the inane subject matter turns your fragile psyche into something akin to sheetrock mud?

Get back to me.

Start a goddamned thread validating your take on the ridiculous. I do it all the time.
:cool:

[pflo]

So, now you are now judging how you "come off"? Not at all like an insecure faggot, huh?(IRONY)....Like you know how others think about you now? Oh. I see. I take it all back. This is all becoming clearer now...IRONY......yes, of course....IRONY. You were being IRONIC!! Shit, boy, why didnt you say so? Im such a fool. Apparently , I also love the cock, as Im a "faggot". I like the part when you insert "cunt" into words , but they still kinda sound the same...almost threw me off there. Thats cleverness, like Dave cleverness, but a lot less, well, INGENIOUS. Keep trying, child.:cool::

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by pflo
So, now you are now judging how you "come off"? Not at all like an insecure faggot, huh?....Like you know how others think about you now? Oh. I see. I take it all back. This is all becoming clearer now...IRONY......yes, of course....IRONY. You were being IRONIC!! Shit, boy, why didnt you say so? Im such a fool. Apparently , I also love the cock, as Im a "faggot". I like the part when you insert "cunt" into words , but they still kinda sound the same...almost threw me of there. Thats cleverness, like Dave cleverness, but a lot less, well, INGENIOUS. Keep trying, child.:cool::

Your first point is a complete misfire. Like that? "Misfire"

Haha?

I've made a dying off how I come off to other people.

Forget about me.

Let's talk about you.

You throw around words like manhole covers. (pun)

You've set Irony back, arguably a couple hundred years by referring to yourself as a fool.

You've obviously developed some sort of fascination with my posting.

Have you used the search function yet?

[pflo]

Ive risen to the challenge, and Ive eaten you FOR BREAKFAST, pal.

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by pflo
Apparently , I also love the cock, as Im a "faggot". :cool:

P- PENIS
F- FLUFFING
L- LOSER
O- OUTED

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Federaljim/jerkoff.gif

[RuzDNailz]

The current lead singer of Styx is actually a local dude. Anybody ever heard of 'Gowan'? Lawrence (or Larry) Gowan was a solo artist from the 80's who had some hits that were kind of cheesey. But his voice has an uncanny resemblance to that of Dennis DeYoung. Which is why he was brought in after Dennis threw in the towel due to illness. Gowan actually grew up in a town just north of me and performed in pubs back in the late 70's. Those were the days when Rush was just getting started.

On a seperate note, YOU CANNOT COMPARE STYX TO QUEEN! Queen was a rock band and Styx was just another ballad band alongside with Journey, REO Speedwagon, and Van Fagar. But many argue that Styx has more rock tunes now with Gowan leading the band.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by RuzDNailz
The current lead singer of Styx is actually a local dude. Anybody ever heard of 'Gowan'? Lawrence (or Larry) Gowan was a solo artist from the 80's who had some hits that were kind of cheesey. But his voice has an uncanny resemblance to that of Dennis DeYoung. Which is why he was brought in after Dennis threw in the towel due to illness. Gowan actually grew up in a town just north of me and performed in pubs back in the late 70's. Those were the days when Rush was just getting started.

On a seperate note, YOU CANNOT COMPARE STYX TO QUEEN! Queen was a rock band and Styx was just another ballad band alongside with Journey, REO Speedwagon, and Van Fagar. But many argue that Styx has more rock tunes now with Gowan leading the band.

Just to clear it up...

Dennis didn't "throw in the towel", he was fired while he was ill. He had full intention to return to the group and tour once his health improved, but James and Tommy canned him (very nice - neither James or Tommy being original members, they fire the only original member left and take over the band, essentially - Chuck Panozzo was still there, but only haphazardly since he was getting bad with HIV, and they mostly toured with Glen Burtnik on bass, anyway, making it virtually a no-original-members version of Styx). Either way, they replaced him with Gowan and went on the road.

Right - you can't compare Styx to Queen.

Wrong - Lawrence Gowan is not Styx's "leader". He's a hired gun playing the role of Dennis, turning Styx effectively into a cover band of itself. James Young is the default leader of Styx, primarily because he's been there the longest and Tommy Shaw can't handle the business end of leading the band like James can (and always did). James and Tommy do all the interviews, all the publicity, and usually it's just James these days, anyway. Since he seems to be Styx's only real mouthpiece, he's the leader, not Gowan.

There can't be "more rock tunes", because Styx has only released one album (Cyclorama) in the time since Gowan joined (1999), and to put it bluntly, it was a pile of horse dung. And nobody bought it. Other than that, New Styx has released:

Styxworld 2001 (Live)
Arch Allies: Live at Riverport (Live w/ REO Speedwagon split double CD)
At the River's Edge (Live)
21st Century Live (Live)
One With Everything (Live w/ The Cleveland Youth Orchestra)
Rockers (Best of)
The Complete Wooden Nickel Recordings (compilation of the first four LPs)
Come Sail Away: The Styx Anthology (Best of)
Big Bang Theory (Covers only album)

Which amounts to being 5 live albums, 3 best of albums and 1 album of covers to match one studio album of original material.

How do you spell "THIS BAND IS DONE" again?...

It's a flippin' joke, seriously.

[RuzDNailz]

You're right Bob. Where does Styx play again these days? At the casinos in my area. Dennis DeYoung was recently on Canadian Idol months ago and he performed for one of the shows. He still sounds great and was very nice to the show finalists. It was actually a double bill with Dennis DeYoung and Roger Hodgson who were both very polite and helpful to the idols. Styx is just another rebuilt band bearing the name for audiences who don't know better.

This is a very similar story from what I've heard about Journey, but that lead singer (Perry) just didn't want to get medical treatment so he was either canned or fucked off on his own to collect royalties.

[pflo]

Originally posted by diamondjimi
P- PENIS
F- FLUFFING
L- LOSER
O- OUTED

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Federaljim/jerkoff.gif k Thats it, keep stroking...and open WIDE, bitch.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by pflo
Ive risen to the challenge, and Ive eaten you FOR BREAKFAST, pal.

That right there is just wayyyy too much.

Fare yee well.

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by pflo
k Thats it, keep stroking...and open WIDE, bitch.

Ahh prison talk. No thanks faggy ,I'm into pussy ..........

[pflo]

Originally posted by diamondjimi
Ahh prison talk. No thanks faggy ,I'm into pussy .......... into it, but obviously not getting any,pics dont count, champ;)

[pflo]

Originally posted by rustoffa
That right there is just wayyyy too much.

Fare yee well. Thank You.Its nice to have people on the net wish you well.Same to you.:)

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by pflo
into it, but obviously not getting any,pics dont count, champ;)

Not getting any ? Au contrere , ye who masturbatus furious !

Pussy's not a problem. See , unlike yourself I don't live with my parents. So you'd best be turning off Nana's computer and getting back to dressing her bed sores.
Shitfunnel !:monekyr:

PWN3D !

[EbDawson]

Originally posted by RuzDNailz
Where does Styx play again these days? At the casinos in my area.

Stop slamming bands because they play casinos. David Lee Fucking Roth plays casinos. So does just about everybody else. You want to hate Styx for any other reasons, fine.

[diamondD]

No kidding. It's given a lot of classic rockers a venue to still get out there and play. I never thought I'd see ZZ Top playing them, but it's better than them retiring.

[pflo]

Originally posted by diamondjimi
Not getting any ? Au contrere , ye who masturbatus furious !

Pussy's not a problem. See , unlike yourself I don't live with my parents. So you'd best be turning off Nana's computer and getting back to dressing her bed sores.
Shitfunnel !:monekyr:

PWN3D ! Whats all this "ye" business? Are you a fancy lad? Or just light in your loafers? If your trying to project masculinity, you might wanna drop the "ye", which is a tad faggish, Percy.

[RuzDNailz]

Originally posted by EbDawson
Stop slamming bands because they play casinos. David Lee Fucking Roth plays casinos. So does just about everybody else. You want to hate Styx for any other reasons, fine.

I'm not hating on ALL bands and performers who play in Casinos!! I'm talking about REBUILT bands who play there. I saw DLR there and recently Dennis Miller. Styx consists of how many original members?
Want another example? CCR! Foreigner plays there from time to time and they only have one original member.

[bueno bob]

At this point Styx can argue that James Young is an original member; he's been present on each and every Styx album since their first one (1972?). BUT - Dennis, Chuck and John started the band (1968ish), hired John Curulewski first (1970?), and James Young came into the fold after that. John was the first to quit (in 1975), replaced by Tommy Shaw, and the rest of the history is pretty well common knowledge.

I personally don't look at James as an "original member" per se, but...it's a Michael Anthony/Mark Stone sort of deal, I guess, all depends on your viewpoint.

I don't care for reconstituted bands myself. There are actually a LOT of bands out there touring casinos under a particular band name that are not anywhere close to the actual band in question - predominantly among them being one hit wonder oldies acts from the 60's that are guys in their 40's hired by a promoter to play the bands hits and, in essence, "become" the band.

Styx isn't quite there yet, but it's very close. Spitting distance.

As far as DLR playing casinos, that's fine, but when a band's done it's DONE. No original members - no band.

I think the precedent for this started in 1980 - "Steppenwolf" was put together by a promoter to tour Mexico and America, and it consisted of no original members, if I recall correctly; the band that "played" Steppenwolf was later recycled around Rod Evans the same year to "become" Deep Purple 1980 (which went over significantly worse - Rod Evans and a group of professional touring musicians out their playing songs from "their" Burn album? Almost every show ended with riots until Blackmore and Glover ended up suing them, which is why you didn't see a Rainbow album in 1980).

So..........

[RuzDNailz]

Funny you mention Steppenwolf. At least when they were in CasinoRama last year they headlined under 'John Kay and Steppenwolf'. Makes you realize right there that it's only the front guy and some musicians filling in the spots.

If this reunion with Dave is going to happen, then DLR will be back in his element doing arenas and such. Whenever I think of that I look at the back cover of 'Diver Down' and gaze at the sea of heads in the audience gathered for CVH! Just to be part of it will be sweet.....

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by pflo
Whats all this "ye" business? Are you a fancy lad? Or just light in your loafers? If your trying to project masculinity, you might wanna drop the "ye", which is a tad faggish, Percy.

Fuck off ye worthless Bloodfart !

[bueno bob]

Good heavens! Such aggression over Styx!

:eek:

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Good heavens! Such aggression over Styx!

:eek:

It's gotta be backlash over the "Pieces Of Eight" album art. Denizens of the deep have obviously turned this thread upside down. Easter Island is nothing to fuck around with. DDY knew it, TS and JY knew it...that shit was nothing short of FINALITY.

Motherfuckers got sick after that one.

Word up Katy.....you're missing the fireworks.
:eek:

[Revan]

Originally posted by rustoffa
It's gotta be backlash over the "Pieces Of Eight" album art. Denizens of the deep have obviously turned this thread upside down. Easter Island is nothing to fuck around with. DDY knew it, TS and JY knew it...that shit was nothing short of FINALITY.

Motherfuckers got sick after that one.

Word up Katy.....you're missing the fireworks.
:eek:

You know, there's actually a very good argument to be made there, lol.