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Steve Savicki
11-30-2006, 09:49 AM
http://www.powells.com/biblio/0743285026
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President Carter, who was able to negotiate peace between Israel and Egypt, has remained deeply involved in Middle East affairs since leaving the White House. He has stayed in touch with the major players from all sides in the conflict and has made numerous trips to the Holy Land, most recently as an observer in the Palestinian elections of 2005 and 2006.
In this book President Carter shares his intimate knowledge of the history of the Middle East and his personal experiences with the principal actors, and he addresses sensitive political issues many American officials avoid. Pulling no punches, Carter prescribes steps that must be taken for the two states to share the Holy Land without a system of apartheid or the constant fear of terrorism.
The general parameters of a long-term, two-state agreement are well known, the president writes. There will be no substantive and permanent peace for any peoples in this troubled region as long as Israel is violating key U.N. resolutions, official American policy, and the international "road map" for peace by occupying Arab lands and oppressing the Palestinians. Except for mutually agreeable negotiated modifications, Israel's official pre-1967 borders must be honored. As were all previous administrations since the founding of Israel, U.S. government leaders must be in the forefront of achieving this long-delayed goal of a just agreement that both sides can honor.
Palestine Peace Not Apartheid is a challenging, provocative, and courageous book.

BigBadBrian
11-30-2006, 04:11 PM
Jimmah who?

FORD
11-30-2006, 07:14 PM
The only President to ever bring peace to Israel and one of its neighbors.

The BCE/Likud hate Carter because of his success. They wish Egypt was still a threat to Israel because it would make selling their fucked up agenda easier.

PumpedUpMidget
11-30-2006, 07:20 PM
I will be...The smartest and best president in the last 40 years

Steve Savicki
11-30-2006, 09:44 PM
Perhaps Ford doesn't need to read the book, but hey, are you going to buy it anyways?

FORD
11-30-2006, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Steve Savicki
Perhaps Ford doesn't need to read the book, but hey, are you going to buy it anyways?

I might.... assuming I don't get it for Christmas. Of course when I'll get around to actually reading it is an entirely different question. I have a stack of books nearly as tall as I am which I haven't read yet.

Nitro Express
12-01-2006, 04:16 AM
No. But I got junk mail from his foundation today asking me to donate money for nails and roofing materials. He must still be building houses.

Steve Savicki
12-01-2006, 06:10 AM
What's the name of his house building foundation?

FORD
12-01-2006, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Steve Savicki
What's the name of his house building foundation?

Habitat for Humanity (http://www.habitat.org/how/carter.aspx)

Rick Allen
12-01-2006, 11:31 PM
http://www.rustycans.com/Billy.GIF

:D

FORD
12-01-2006, 11:57 PM
At least Billy Carter never took trips to Thailand to fuck underage prostitutes like Neil Bush does......

rustoffa
12-02-2006, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by FORD
I might.... assuming I don't get it for Christmas. Of course when I'll get around to actually reading it is an entirely different question. I have a stack of books nearly as tall as I am which I haven't read yet.

:)

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Rick Allen
12-02-2006, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by FORD
At least Billy Carter never took trips to Thailand to fuck underage prostitutes like Neil Bush does......

Billy Carter seemed like a nice person from the times I saw him on the TV.

Jimmy Carter was a good president actually.

Steve Savicki
12-02-2006, 08:00 PM
Reminder: Jimmy Carter on TV tomorrow

On C-Span 2 on Sunday, December 3, the former president will be interviewed on the Book TV December In Depth program from 12 noon to 3 or 3:30 p.m Eastern Time. Inter alia he will be discussing his new book,
"Palestine: Peace or Apartheid." He has published more than 20 books, one of his signal accomplishments as an ex-president besides his work
through the Carter Center in Atlanta. He will be interviewed at his home in Plains, Georgia. It is a call-in show and questions can be posed byphone or by email.

Nickdfresh
12-03-2006, 05:56 AM
Carter was, and is, a very good man and capable thinker who was President at one of the worst times in modern history to be one...

Yes, I will buy this book. He's dead on, the Israelis have gotten away with practicing what amounts to South Afrikaner style apartheid for far too long with US financial backing...

ULTRAMAN VH
12-05-2006, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Carter was, and is, a very good man and capable thinker who was President at one of the worst times in modern history to be one...

Yes, I will buy this book. He's dead on, the Israelis have gotten away with practicing what amounts to South Afrikaner style apartheid for far too long with US financial backing...

Yep, Terrorist organizations like Hamas, think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
12-05-2006, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by FORD
I have a stack of books nearly as tall as I am which I haven't read yet.

Yes. As well as rereading thw works of Hugo Chavez's favorite author Noam Chomsky, the conspiracy theory literature industry has been quite busy these past six years.

Dr. Love
12-05-2006, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by FORD
I might.... assuming I don't get it for Christmas. Of course when I'll get around to actually reading it is an entirely different question. I have a stack of books nearly as tall as I am which I haven't read yet.

I suggest better time management between reading your books and ranting about Republicans on the forums. ;)

Warham
12-05-2006, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by FORD
The only President to ever bring peace to Israel and one of its neighbors.

Wow, how about bringing peace to the other twenty countries that want to blow Israel off the map.

Warham
12-05-2006, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Carter was, and is, a very good man and capable thinker who was President at one of the worst times in modern history to be one...

Excuses, excuses.

I guess Gerald Ford's presidency was a cakewalk, eh?

Nickdfresh
12-05-2006, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Excuses, excuses.

I guess Gerald Ford's presidency was a cakewalk, eh?

Who said anything about Ford?

Warham
12-06-2006, 08:28 AM
You said it was tough during Carter's presidency.

I would say it was equally tough during Ford's and Reagan's.

So let's not give Carter a free pass because he couldn't handle the pressure.

cordoba
12-06-2006, 08:51 AM
No, No, No. Never, never, never forget the misery of the Carter Days. Runaway inflation. Unemployment. Economic stagnation. Erosion and neutering of our national defense. Carter was the ultimate trojan horse of Clintonian proportions. Carter began his career in the mold of Wallace and later morphed into this "centrist" creation to secure the nomination back in 1976. He was a blatant racist from the word go and when the political landscape suited him, shrouded himself in this cloak of "racial tolerance". I more than remember growing up hungry in the late 70's. I remember well when we had real unemployment. That was when people didn't work because there was no economic growth. Now, we have "unemployment" where spoiled college boys are too lazy to start at the bottom and work for a living before everything in life is handed to them. Negative growth for you Carter apologists. He got even worse after his dumping in 1980. Propping up third world thugs with his "election monitoring". Give me a break. Look at Nicaragua. The thugs are back in power, and not a mere peep from that "human rights watchdog" Jimmy Carter.

OH, but I forgot. Socialism works. Give me a break. It has failed everywhere it has been tried. Why does Western Europe stagnate under 10%+ unemployment? Why do Southern States continue to grow in population from the exodus of blue state residents? But, I digress. Carter is a fraud.

Just venting. I can stomach any insurance seminar, sit through any boring speech................but never forget the CARTER DAYS!!!!!!

ULTRAMAN VH
12-08-2006, 10:59 AM
Adviser to Jimmy Carter resigns in dispute over book on Palestinians and apartheid
By Brenda Goodman and Julie Bosman Published: December 7, 2006




ATLANTA: An adviser to former President Jimmy Carter and onetime executive director of the Carter Center has publicly parted ways with his former boss, citing concerns with the accuracy and integrity of Carter's latest book, "Palestine Peace Not Apartheid."

The adviser, Kenneth Stein, a professor of Middle Eastern history and political science at Emory University in Atlanta, resigned his position Tuesday as a fellow with the Carter Center, ending a 23-year association with the institution.

In a two-page letter explaining his action, Stein called the book "replete with factual errors, copied materials not cited, superficialities, glaring omissions and simply invented segments." Stein said he had used similar language in a private letter he sent to Carter but received no reply.

"In the letter to him, I told him, 'It's your prerogative to write anything you want when you want,'" Stein said Wednesday in a telephone interview. "That's not why I'm resigning."


Stein said he admired the former president's accomplishments but felt that he had to distance himself from the Carter Center and the book, which was published by Simon & Schuster.

Deanna Congelio, a spokeswoman for Carter, released this statement with his response: "Although Professor Kenneth Stein has not been actively involved with the Carter Center for more than 12 years, I regret his resignation from the titular position as a fellow." It did not address Stein's criticism of the book.

That criticism is the latest in a growing chorus of academics who have taken issue with the book, including David Makovsky, director of the Project on the Middle East Process at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

"I was just very saddened by it," Makovsky said. "I just found so many errors."

Carter's use of "apartheid" in the title has prompted much of the dispute. The Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles released a statement Monday saying the former president harbors bias against Israel. "There is no Israeli apartheid policy, and President Carter knows it," the statement said.

David Rosenthal, the publisher of Simon & Schuster, said of Carter, "We're confident in his work," adding, "I have no reason to doubt President Carter's research."

Nickdfresh
12-08-2006, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Warham
You said it was tough during Carter's presidency.

I would say it was equally tough during Ford's and Reagan's.

So let's not give Carter a free pass because he couldn't handle the pressure.

You mean he wouldn't cut deals with terrorists in order to get hostages released?

Warham
12-09-2006, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You mean he wouldn't cut deals with terrorists in order to get hostages released?

Hey, Nick, since you like the Peanut Farmer so much, perhaps the next time you buy a house, make sure to ask the mortgage company for the Carter Special.

Nickdfresh
12-10-2006, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Hey, Nick, since you like the Peanut Farmer so much, perhaps the next time you buy a house, make sure to ask the mortgage company for the Carter Special.

Do I get a free case of Billy Beer with every loan?