Holiday Depression: Is it real?

[rustoffa]

Weigh in!

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[Terry]

Dunno about an inordinate amount of depression around the holidays, but the meaning of Christmas for some time now seems to add up to little more than spending a bunch of money, and the fact that the XMAS ads start popping up before Halloween and the day after Thanksgiving is now called Black Friday, where people basically get up real early on a day off to go shop...

Kinda pathetic.

That being said, I'd like some porn in my stocking this year.

[Ally_Kat]

I'm the person in my family that has to cheer everyone else up. This is because I'm able to hold more stress than the rest of the peeps. And the extended family members are acting like a bunch of yeast-infected cunts.

So yeah, not really a happy time of year, altho I try cuz it's my birthday.

[FORD]

Seasonal Affective Disorder is a very real thing, and the weather generally sucks more ass this time of year than any other.

Add on to that, the economic factors - pressures of commercialism every time you turn around. That shit doesn't get to me but it does to a lot of people.

Then there's the whole "family" aspect of the holiday, which sucks for those who can't be with their family members for whatever reasons. Unfortunately, I will be stuck in that category this year, since I can't afford a road trip or airfare at the moment.

So, rather than being depressed, I'm just avoiding the whole fucking mess as much as possible. I haven't even been drinking my usual traditional winter beers.

Fuck the whole thing, hit the fast forward button and bring on next summer :cool:

[rustoffa]

I'm always trying to keep the peace as well. My weapon of choice? Top-shelf Jamaican Rum. Forget Appletons'...put the A-grade curfew stuff out.

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by FORD
Seasonal Affective Disorder is a very real thing, and the weather generally sucks more ass this time of year than any other.

Add on to that, the economic factors - pressures of commercialism every time you turn around. That shit doesn't get to me but it does to a lot of people.

Then there's the whole "family" aspect of the holiday, which sucks for those who can't be with their family members for whatever reasons. Unfortunately, I will be stuck in that category this year, since I can't afford a road trip or airfare at the moment.

So, rather than being depressed, I'm just avoiding the whole fucking mess as much as possible. I haven't even been drinking my usual traditional winter beers.

Fuck the whole thing, hit the fast forward button and bring on next summer :cool:

I totally agree with all that... 100%.


Plus, I would say yhat the Holliday Season is somehow agressive...


The public places (all of them) keep on pounding that fuck'n music in our heads, over and over again... I mean, how many times can one listen to "Jingle Bells" without going insane?

The marketting around us is harrassing... reminding us constantly that X-Mas is just a comercial holliday...

Some people are offended by X-Mas trees in public while others claim that it's their rights to celebrate as they wish... creating arguments and conflicts...

The ones that are already depressed and unfortunate in life, feel eaven worst at that time of year...

Parents that can't afford to get into the consuming circle (for their kids) feel guilty or max out their credit cards... and what about the ones that can't eaven feed their families 3 meals/day?...

The crime and suicide rate is at its highest...

And the song goes; "It's the most wonderful time of the year"!!!



Personally,

My Mother that is a very happy and cheerful person (yearound) feels sad at that particular time, since my Dad. passed away...

My husband and I who don't beleive/celebrate any of the "Hallmark Hollydays" have to fake it for everybodielse...

The multiple partys and fat meals make me sick...

My sugar level goes up...

So really... why wouldn't I feel depressed at X-Mas?



Anyway, for the ones who are really into it...
Cheers! :guzzle:

[binnie]

Another excuse to get drunk!

Great!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by rustoffa
I'm always trying to keep the peace as well. My weapon of choice? Top-shelf Jamaican Rum...

Yeah, I usually do that as well...
Porto, Bailey's, Wine, Vodka etc...
But this year, I can't eaven "wash it away", since I am pregnant!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by binnie
Another excuse to get drunk!

Great!

Don't tell me you need that excuse?

[binnie]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Don't tell me you need that excuse?

That's a good point.

Guilty as charged.

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by binnie
Another excuse to get drunk!

Great!

Reminds me... I forgot;
More drunk driving, so more deadly accidents...

"It's the most wonderful time of the year..." :rolleyes:

[binnie]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Reminds me... I forgot;
More drunk driving, so more deadly accidents...

"It's the most wonderful time of the year..." :rolleyes:

well, that's true.

But I've never driven after having drunk.

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by binnie
well, that's true.

But I've never driven after having drunk.

I was not pointing at you...
Just reminded me (and it was too late to edit my post)...

[BITEYOASS]

I'd be more along the lines of insane. I start talking a bunch of crazy shit about my opinions of fundies and dumb parents who buy their kids expensive gifts. All over the place is where I'll be this christmas. :D

[Douglas T.]

Personaly reason #1 ... my MOM passed away on Dec. 20th ten years ago! Christmas ain't been the same since! I tend to stear toward the REAL reason for Christmas over the swapping of gifts!

[bueno bob]

I get suicidal this time of year, actually.

Went into last year and the year before, so I see no need to rehash...

Fuck Christmas.

[Last_Child]

This years Christmas has no snow!
Even though I'm in FUCKING Norway :mad:

ARG!
Holiday depression slightly.


It RAINED, Poured down today.
Fucking shit!

[SparkieD]

Originally posted by FORD
Seasonal Affective Disorder is a very real thing, and the weather generally sucks more ass this time of year than any other.


I suffer from SAD, but since it manifests in Late September, I've gotten used to the feeling by the time Christmas comes around. I used to see a shrink for it, but I had to learn to deal with it on my own as the MD was doing very litte to get me through it. He suggested that I purchase a $500.00 light box to replace the sunlight I was missing. Yeah right, after spending the past six months on the beach in the sunshine on a near daily basis, this box was going to make me feel better. He also directed me to a compounding pharmacist who mixed a specially prescribed blend of B vitamins and L-Tryptophan. I did that for several months but felt like I had started smoking pot again as the tryptophan is very relaxing. Relaxing is just against my nature. I felt like a zombie.


Fuck the whole thing, hit the fast forward button and bring on next summer :cool:

Actually, Christmas is the only thing I look forward to in the winter. I know it's halfway to summer:)

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by Douglas T.
I tend to stear toward the REAL reason for Christmas over the swapping of gifts!

...and promise to always throw in mispelled words for your amuzement!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by SparkieD
I suffer from SAD, but since it manifests in Late September, I've gotten used to the feeling by the time Christmas comes around. I used to see a shrink for it, but I had to learn to deal with it on my own as the MD was doing very litte to get me through it. He suggested that I purchase a $500.00 light box to replace the sunlight I was missing. Yeah right, after spending the past six months on the beach in the sunshine on a near daily basis, this box was going to make me feel better. He also directed me to a compounding pharmacist who mixed a specially prescribed blend of B vitamins and L-Tryptophan. I did that for several months but felt like I had started smoking pot again as the tryptophan is very relaxing. Relaxing is just against my nature. I felt like a zombie...

Me too!

Here in the north pole, when fall starts... I just feel like hibernating and sleep for about 8 months...
The sun rises at around 7:00 AM and goes down at around 4:00 PM!
It is extremely depressing...
I was also prescribed that light box and refuse to use it...
I mean, you have to sit there in front of it, for at least 1/2 hour every mornings before you start your day :rolleyes: ...
like I need to get up any earlier!

Plus, the temperature gows wayyy down (sometimes, -40 degrees celcius) so I really don't want to go outside... :(

I am very miserable in the winter and I know that I am not the only one... some have it harder,
like the homeless who die freezing...

But hey, the song sais it: "It's the most wonderful time of the year"!
:o

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by SparkieD
... Actually, Christmas is the only thing I look forward to in the winter. I know it's halfway to summer:)

True...
You know that right after the shortest day of the year... it only gets better day by day!

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Last_Child
This years Christmas has no snow!
Even though I'm in FUCKING Norway :mad:

ARG!
Holiday depression slightly.


It RAINED, Poured down today.
Fucking shit!

You still have a week or so.

*sends snow vibes to Norway*

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
You still have a week or so.

*sends snow vibes to Norway*

Send some my way too... :(

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Coyote
Send some my way too... :(

of course, hun. Temps warm over there, too? Or just snowless?

[Terry]

Depression is real enough, but that's life.

Sometimes people are gonna get depressed from time to time.

You deal with it and keep on moving.

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
of course, hun. Temps warm over there, too? Or just snowless?

Both! There was an inch of snow for a day, some weeks ago.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Terry
You deal with it and keep on moving.

Or occasionally, you cease moving, and have to deal with it.

This dude back home always decorated his house with lights like you wouldn't believe. It was the 80's, so you didn't have the luxury of cuntputer cuntrol delays' and shit. Pretty impressive, in retrospect....the old-school huge bulbs everywhere.

Long story shorter, he decided to light up the back of his house one year...maybe '87? The roof on the back of his house was really steep, so he tied a rope around the bumper of the family ride in the driveway. (driveway on the front of his house) Then, he tied the other end of the rope around his waist. The plan was to approach the steep back roof via the front one.

Bad plan.

His wife decided to run an errand with the aforementioned family ride, while he was attached to it. He got yanked over the roof, and drug down the street. Fucking brutal shit.

Anyway, he decorated his house again the next year.

No depression.

That fucking house looked like Close Encounters Of The Third Kind illumination.

HARDCORE perseverance.

[Little Texan]

Originally posted by Terry
Dunno about an inordinate amount of depression around the holidays, but the meaning of Christmas for some time now seems to add up to little more than spending a bunch of money, and the fact that the XMAS ads start popping up before Halloween and the day after Thanksgiving is now called Black Friday, where people basically get up real early on a day off to go shop...

Kinda pathetic.

That being said, I'd like some porn in my stocking this year.

Exactly. The very reason I can't stand Christmas, and hate to see it come every year!

[Little Texan]

Originally posted by FORD
Then there's the whole "family" aspect of the holiday, which sucks for those who can't be with their family members for whatever reasons. Unfortunately, I will be stuck in that category this year, since I can't afford a road trip or airfare at the moment.



Where do your folks live, Ford?

[Little Texan]

Originally posted by bueno bob
I get suicidal this time of year, actually.

Went into last year and the year before, so I see no need to rehash...

Fuck Christmas.

We need the classic hitchRANT© about Christmas from a few years back...fuck Christmas in the bloody ass! :D

[Dan]

Gift Vouchers this year for the Family,why buy a gift no one likes.:)

Christmas shopping is crazy,no fucking carparks,hot as hell(sorry Satan):)

The plus side,drinking cold Beer in the Summer Sun for two weeks and The babes at The Beach.:)

[Coyote]

I think I found a cure for this depression: Mel Brooks movies.

[Dan]

Originally posted by Coyote
I think I found a cure for this depression: Mel Brooks movies.

Blazing Saddles is a Great movie.

[Coyote]

"Silent Movie", also...

[Dan]

Originally posted by Coyote
"Silent Movie", also...

And Young Frankenstein too.:)

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Dan
And Young Frankenstein too.:)

That goes without saying. :cool:

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Coyote
Both! There was an inch of snow for a day, some weeks ago.

I'll send you snow if you get the cute guy on the bus to say hi to me. Deal? :D

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I'll send you snow if you get the cute guy on the bus to say hi to me. Deal? :D

Sure. I'll just whip out my copy of "The Necronomicon"... http://diamonddavidleeroth.com/forums/images/smilies/ded.gif

Got any extra chickens?
:D

[Tiki-Tom]

A good Marx Bro's movie or two goes a long way towards a cure also.

[Coyote]

Which one?

[binnie]

The cure for depression (I speak from experience and I mean clinical depression, not feeling a little low) is taking stock and evaluating what's important, and what you can actually do about it.

It's a lifestyle change.

As for Holiday blues or whatever, I recommned a healty dose of Jack Daniels, CVH and Bill Hicks in equal portions.

And fucking someones brains helps too!

[binnie]

Originally posted by binnie


And fucking someones brains helps too!

Get her to sing "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas"....

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by binnie
The cure for depression (I speak from experience and I mean clinical depression, not feeling a little low) is taking stock and evaluating what's important, and what you can actually do about it.

It's a lifestyle change.

As for Holiday blues or whatever, I recommned a healty dose of Jack Daniels, CVH and Bill Hicks in equal portions.

And fucking someones brains helps too!

Drugs help, too. HEAVY, HEAVY drugs.

:)

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Drugs help, too. HEAVY, HEAVY drugs.

:)

You mean the sort where you get to see unicorns building the pyramids?

Or spending 10 hours lying on your back loving everything?

Yep, they always help!

[DrMaddVibe]

Munkafust has an awesome Christmas song..."My birthday's near Christmas and it sucks".

Sizes the entire season up for me.

Once I had kids of my own though, I have to admit that it was funner to make their Christmas'.

I try not to let the family get caught up in the entire commercialism that is now the "holiday season".

[Anonymous]

A few years ago, I "enjoyed" X-mas alone, watching The Doors movie and drinking beer.

Funny - sad - thing is, I didn't felt like doing anything else. Does this qualifies as "depression"?

I'm just glad I didn't have a razor anywhere near me.

Fuck Christmas... I got the blues.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Last_Child]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
You still have a week or so.

*sends snow vibes to Norway*

Let's hope it works..

It's said that only the northern parts of Norway are getting snow...
I'm not up there :mad:

[Ellyllions]

So far, I haven't suffered depression during the holidays but I know for a fact that it's real.

For some, the holidays brings on real stress. Money, loss of family members, and even being alone while everyone else seems to have tos of folks around them.

When I worked E-911 we had more heart attacks, breathing problems, and falls occur in nursing homes. On the police side, we had more suicides, threats of suicide, and domestic violence calls. All of these end up being more than any other time of the year. Even more than on full and new moon nights.

It really seemed that if a person was ill (mentally or physically) they got worse between Thanksgiving and Christmas. And it all equates to stress or depression around the holiday.

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
So far, I haven't suffered depression during the holidays but I know for a fact that it's real.

For some, the holidays brings on real stress. Money, loss of family members, and even being alone while everyone else seems to have tos of folks around them.

When I worked E-911 we had more heart attacks, breathing problems, and falls occur in nursing homes. On the police side, we had more suicides, threats of suicide, and domestic violence calls. All of these end up being more than any other time of the year. Even more than on full and new moon nights.

It really seemed that if a person was ill (mentally or physically) they got worse between Thanksgiving and Christmas. And it all equates to stress or depression around the holiday.

And the song keeps on saying...
"It's the most, wonderful time, of the year"!!!

[BITEYOASS]

Had a shitty day at work. Been getting as many packages in the trucks as possible making sure the loading cages are empty, expected the last cage to be called out at 8:30 as always. Then they called the last cage I was swamped in packages at the last minute! Kept getting shit from my bosses, but instead of getting angry I just didn't listen and let their BS just float past me as if I realized that this was not reality. Guess that dormant THC from my parents weed smoke must have kicked in. :D

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by BITEYOASS
... Guess that dormant THC from my parents weed smoke must have kicked in. :D

Cool parents! :p

The THC makes me oblevious to all sorts of B.S. too...
Sometimes, it's just not worth it getting all worked up and pot can certainly help!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

People who dare to feel depressed during their holidays need some good ASSKICKINGTHERAPY. :mad:

[Susie Q]

Holiday depression? Sure, it's real. There are a lot of variables as to why people who have a tendency to be depressed get even more so at this time. It's supposed to be a time of happiness, togetherness, etc. When someone already feels alone and lonely, you add on the what to be expected or wished for don't happen...and wahlah! Instant hyper depression sets in.

There are people who just can't get out of the funk they are in and this makes it worse. Those are the people if you have them around you, you need to embrace even more so. Make them feel like they are important, welcomed and loved.

Then they go back to their clinical depression state PRIOR to the holidays and life is 'back to tolerable.'

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
People who dare to feel depressed during their holidays need some good ASSKICKINGTHERAPY. :mad:

Well... excuse me, teacher but NOT everybody gets a 2 weeks vacations around X-Mas time (on top of the 1 week/spring break and 2 months/summer ones)! :mad:

;) ;)

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Susie Q
...wahlah!...

Now THAT word will make me laugh... n'est-ce pas Jérôme? :p

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Well... excuse me, teacher but NOT everybody gets a 2 weeks vacations around X-Mas time (on top of the 1 week/spring break and 2 months/summer ones)! :mad:

;) ;)

But it's so awesome! See, Jérôme and I know what were doing. :D I'll always have off for my birthday. I love it so.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Coyote
Sure. I'll just whip out my copy of "The Necronomicon"... http://diamonddavidleeroth.com/forums/images/smilies/ded.gif

Got any extra chickens?
:D

No, but I have an aunt or two and some cousins you can sacrafice.

[Susie Q]

All I know is it better snow here for Christmas or I am going to kick the puppy.:eek: :o :D

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Well... excuse me, teacher but NOT everybody gets a 2 weeks vacations around X-Mas time (on top of the 1 week/spring break and 2 months/summer ones)! :mad:

;) ;)

:D He he he... It's even worse here... :D

Add 10 days around Toussaint, 2 weeks in February, 2 (not just 1) in spring... Er... :o

:p :D

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
But it's so awesome! See, Jérôme and I know what were doing. :D I'll always have off for my birthday. I love it so.

Well, I know what you're doing, and I think you'd need those holidays more than I do (I gave English lessons to schoolteachers last year and the year before, and well, I realised what primary teaching means as far as preparing and implication...).
BTW, how much holiday time do they grant you in the USA? Maybe it depends on the state where your work, BTW?

Oh, I see why you'll always be on holiday on your birthdays... ;)
I've always been on holiday on mine too, but it's always meant the end of it more or less. When I was a kid, we had 2 and a half months (from June 30th to September 15th), now it's "only" July 5/6th-September 1st, due to the growing influence of French assholes who consider teachers as lazy asses. :eek:

Well... :)

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Now THAT word will make me laugh... n'est-ce pas Jérôme? :p

:D Yes, it's a word that pupils from Algeria or Morocco will say every now and then - when they're upset or pleased. :)
It's funny that Suzie and you know that word. :)

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
:D He he he... It's even worse here... :D

Add 10 days around Toussaint, 2 weeks in February, 2 (not just 1) in spring... Er... :o

:p :D

I know it is common for most Europeans to get at least 5 weeks off per year (regardless of their type of work)...

Last time I was there, I was talking about that to a French couple...
I told them that here, employers have to give at least 1 paid week/year and sometimes they offer 2... but since the law doesn't force them to give more... they don't.
They both went; :eek: :eek:

After years of service, we get to work our way up to more but it takes time... except for teachers that get about 10 weeks off to start with...

See... we live to work as opposed to you guys who work to live...
We are insane (and stupid for not changing those "heart attack laws")... :o

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
:D Yes, it's a word that pupils from Algeria or Morocco will say every now and then - when they're upset or pleased. :)
It's funny that Suzie and you know that word. :)

No but... the English speaking ones say that, meaning: "Voilà" !!!
L.O.L.
I've heard it many times before in that context...

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
But it's so awesome! See, Jérôme and I know what were doing. :D I'll always have off for my birthday. I love it so.

But I know very well that teachers totally diserve all that time off as you guys work your ass off (overtime and all)...

As I said before, My Mom. was a teacher and when came June, trust me, it was;"Bye, Bye" for the summer... "see you in September"!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
I know it is common for most Europeans to get at least 5 weeks off per year (regardless of their type of work)...

Last time I was there, I was talking about that to a French couple...
I told them that here, employers have to give at least 1 paid week/year and sometimes they offer 2... but since the law doesn't force them to give more... they don't.
They both went; :eek: :eek:

After years of service, we get to work our way up to more but it takes time... except for teachers that get about 10 weeks off to start with...

See... we live to work as opposed to you guys who work to live...
We are insane (and stupid for not changing those "heart attack laws")... :o

Well, we're no smarter here in Frogland than anywhere else as far as handling working time...
All that spare time (35 hours a week has been the norm for a few years now) has a cost, and the country's been having trouble affording that kind of "luxury".
That said, I think the idea of reducing the duration of work is a good move in itself, that goes the way of improvement, but the problem here is how you finance it. And the way they deal with it here is catastrophic, if you consider wages have been "frozen" for years, while the cost of living and taxes keep rising - that is, to sum it up, you've got more and more free time, but you can't afford using it. :rolleyes:

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
Well, I know what you're doing, and I think you'd need those holidays more than I do (I gave English lessons to schoolteachers last year and the year before, and well, I realised what primary teaching means as far as preparing and implication...).
BTW, how much holiday time do they grant you in the USA? Maybe it depends on the state where your work, BTW?

Oh, I see why you'll always be on holiday on your birthdays... ;)
I've always been on holiday on mine too, but it's always meant the end of it more or less. When I was a kid, we had 2 and a half months (from June 30th to September 15th), now it's "only" July 5/6th-September 1st, due to the growing influence of French assholes who consider teachers as lazy asses. :eek:

Well... :)


We get a bit. Here in NY, the schoolyear starts the first of second week of September. Teachers coming about a week before that to set up their classrooms. We get off for various Jewish holdays and Columbus Day in October, Election Day. Thanksgiving Thursday, and the friday afterwards in November, two weeks for Christmas, a week in February for winter recess, two weeks for Easter/Passover, and Brooklyn-Queens day which I can't remember if it's in May or June. Schoolyear is 180 days long and normally ends the second to last week of June.

And yeah, when I was a youngin', my classmates would gloat that they get to celebrate their birthdays in class with cupcakes and I couldn't. See, I always thought it was cooler to be in my situation. I could do and go anywhere I wanted on my birthday, and no homework to boot!
:D

[Jérôme Frenchise]

As far as "holiday depression", I must confess that when the end of August approaches, I start getting a little down, first because I'll soon get one year older, and because I'll soon wind up at work with my new classes. Then I think to myself that it's not that bad, that I've started feeling a bit bored after that 2-month holiday, then I spend the first week's work without much time to think, and I finally have a look at the calendar for the dates of the next holiday. :cry: :D
My friends will tell me "So, soon on holiday again?" when there are still 4 or 5 weeks to go (which actually means "soon" for them)...

Anyway, holiday time is always a time when you can step back and think over your life, your work in particular. Great ideas will always come out of my holidays, but then reason will take over as the day I'm back to school approaches.
If I ever get depressed, it's because I've fallen in love with my summer lay and it's a headache to make it carry on any further. :)

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
But I know very well that teachers totally diserve all that time off as you guys work your ass off (overtime and all)...

As I said before, My Mom. was a teacher and when came June, trust me, it was;"Bye, Bye" for the summer... "see you in September"!

At the school where I work, there are 3 main types of teachers:
Teachers who stay after dismissal til about 5 to finish all their work and plan
Teachers who stay after dismissal to do afterschoo clubs
Teachers who have all their work finished at dismissal and go home

I'm the 3rd one. We're suppose to have at least 2 prep periods (time without the kids in the classroom) each day. With them and lunch, I grade all my papers and homework. It's good in some ways because I don't overload myself with work at home, but it also has some of the other teachers talking about how I don't carry my weight. But I'm the bulletin board queen, so that shuts them up for a week or two. And I'm not talking just papers stapled up. They're like my mini-projects. I can only finish them during the days I have a prep followed by lunch (or lunch followed by a prep).

Contract's up in October, so I'm curious what other goodies they're going to give us. I secretly hope pay raises.

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
No, but I have an aunt or two and some cousins you can sacrafice.

Sorry, my book's the fowl play version.



Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Here in NY, the schoolyear starts the first of second week of September. Teachers coming about a week before that to set up their classrooms.

How I long for that start-date... (Our schools start on the second week of fuckin' August, thanks to politicians who think the students are lazy... :mad: )

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
We get a bit. Here in NY, the schoolyear starts the first of second week of September. Teachers coming about a week before that to set up their classrooms. We get off for various Jewish holdays and Columbus Day in October, Election Day. Thanksgiving Thursday, and the friday afterwards in November, two weeks for Christmas, a week in February for winter recess, two weeks for Easter/Passover, and Brooklyn-Queens day which I can't remember if it's in May or June. Schoolyear is 180 days long and normally ends the second to last week of June.

Thanks a lot for information Ally.
Here teachers have 16 weeks, while the rest of the population have only 5.
When I hear other people moan about it, I like to say: "So then, why don't you do it? I mean, become a teacher..." He he. :)

[/B][/QUOTE]And yeah, when I was a youngin', my classmates would gloat that they get to celebrate their birthdays in class with cupcakes and I couldn't. See, I always thought it was cooler to be in my situation. I could do and go anywhere I wanted on my birthday, and no homework to boot!
:D [/B][/QUOTE]

Xmas twice in 3 days. Isn't that cool? :)

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I secretly hope pay raises.

It's what I dream out loud every day in the teachers' room. :D

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Coyote
Sorry, my book's the fowl play version.

Booo!




Originally posted by Coyote

How I long for that start-date... (Our schools start on the second week of fuckin' August, thanks to politicians who think the students are lazy... :mad: ) :(

For primary/secondary, or college? Because state and city universities here start at the second or 3rd week of August. My undergrad university started in the middle of Sept and ended the first week of May. I loved it so.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
Thanks a lot for information Ally.
Here teachers have 16 weeks, while the rest of the population have only 5.
When I hear other people moan about it, I like to say: "So then, why don't you do it? I mean, become a teacher..." He he. :)

The problem here by me. that I was so shocked to witness, is that a lot of the teacher canidates in the university programs cannot pass the 3 state tests. I whizzed thru those things like nothing. All you need is a 220 out of 300. It's all multiple choice and a short essay. These chicks kept failing it. What was even more horrid to think of was the fact that these chicks where the ones already placed in classrooms!



Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
Xmas twice in 3 days. Isn't that cool? :)

No, is isn't cool. I get the Merry Christmas/Happy birthday gift or I don't get any gift (for either) at all, or peeps just forget. Mostly they just forget.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
It's what I dream out loud every day in the teachers' room. :D

I just keep reminding myself that I'm turning 23 and that at 43, under the current contract, I'll be making 6 figures and I'll able to retire (if i want).

It's a nice thought on those long treks to Harlem.

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
At the school where I work, there are 3 main types of teachers:
Teachers who stay after dismissal til about 5 to finish all their work and plan
Teachers who stay after dismissal to do afterschoo clubs
Teachers who have all their work finished at dismissal and go home

I'm the 3rd one. We're suppose to have at least 2 prep periods (time without the kids in the classroom) each day. With them and lunch, I grade all my papers and homework. It's good in some ways because I don't overload myself with work at home, but it also has some of the other teachers talking about how I don't carry my weight. But I'm the bulletin board queen, so that shuts them up for a week or two. And I'm not talking just papers stapled up. They're like my mini-projects. I can only finish them during the days I have a prep followed by lunch (or lunch followed by a prep).

Contract's up in October, so I'm curious what other goodies they're going to give us. I secretly hope pay raises.


That sounds a lot like how my Mom. used to be... she was the "type #3" as well...
Kids never had to stay in detention, after school... instead, they had extra homework to do AT HOME (with the parents).
But I think it takes practice to get to that...(?)

Also, everyone knew where we lived in the neighborhood and although our phone # was private, some parents still came to the house... to talk about their kid's issues... but fortunately, we went away quite often on week ends and every summers...

Sometimes, I see teachers at the "Dollar Store" shoping for nic nacs to give the kids at every Hollydays for games etc... I know they don't get paid to do that on a saturday and they don't have to do it either...

As for the pay, I don't know how it is in the U-S but here, they don't get nearly as much as they diserve for their responsabilities and considering that other professions that demand the same amount of studies get a lot more...

People complain about teachers all the time "they have it easy, always demand better salaries" etc...

I always say; If we don't stop "pissing them off" with those complains, law suits and all... there won't be anyone that will study that and becaume teachers anymore!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
... only 5...

:rolleyes:


And remember how you and I talked about the cost of living in France VS here?
Trust me, we would diserve that 5 weeks!

Although, you can have that here, after about 8-10 years working for the same employer...

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
The problem here by me. that I was so shocked to witness, is that a lot of the teacher canidates in the university programs cannot pass the 3 state tests. I whizzed thru those things like nothing. All you need is a 220 out of 300. It's all multiple choice and a short essay. These chicks kept failing it. What was even more horrid to think of was the fact that these chicks where the ones already placed in classrooms!

I remember you raising that problem. Yes, the problem is they will be given classrooms anyway. :eek:



Originally posted by Ally_Kat
No, is isn't cool. I get the Merry Christmas/Happy birthday gift or I don't get any gift (for either) at all, or peeps just forget. Mostly they just forget.

Too bad... Hey, a birthday is a birthday, no matter the day when it takes place!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
... Hey, a birthday is a birthday, no matter the day when it takes place!


My friend has the worst B-Day date... January 2nd...

Nobody feels like doing anything that day.
They've been partying the night before, they're hung over, depressed because of having to go back to work etc...
The last thing on their minds is to celebrate again... her B-Day!

It' sucks but she's gotten used to it... :(

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
I just keep reminding myself that I'm turning 23 and that at 43, under the current contract, I'll be making 6 figures and I'll able to retire (if i want).

6 figures!... This is awesome! :eek:
I'm 36, I've reached the 7th scale (out of 11 before the final "superclass"), I can't retire before the age of 63 ("Come on, you crackheads, who stole my walking stick!?"), and I earn 26,000 euros a year (about $28,000 I think), which really sounds ridiculous... :cry:


Originally posted by Ally_Kat
It's a nice thought on those long treks to Harlem.

Sure. :)

How is Harlem today? It's still such a myth as seen from here you know. :cool:

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Booo!

Ahh... My audience. :D




:(

For primary/secondary, or college?

All. Might be some exceptions, of which I know not.

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
It's a nice thought on those long treks to Harlem.

"Across the 110th street..."

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
6 figures!... This is awesome! :eek:
I'm 36, I've reached the 7th scale (out of 11 before the final "superclass"), I can't retire before the age of 63 ("Come on, you crackheads, who stole my walking stick!?"), and I earn 26,000 euros a year (about $28,000 I think), which really sounds ridiculous... :cry:...

Holly shit!
You DO, diserve your 16 weeks...

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
I always say; If we don't stop "pissing them off" with those complains, law suits and all... there won't be anyone that will study that and becaume teachers anymore!

Exactly. Teachers should be "stroked in the sense of the hair". :)

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Coyote
"Across the 110th street..."

Hey, how'd you know where I worked ;)

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
:rolleyes:


And remember how you and I talked about the cost of living in France VS here?
Trust me, we would diserve that 5 weeks!

Although, you can have that here, after about 8-10 years working for the same employer...

I know "you can't get the butter and the money from the butter (and the farmer's daughter's ass :D)", so we have to pay the price of that somehow. :cool:

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
Exactly. Teachers should be "stroked in the sense of the hair". :)

I agree but of course, it depends on what kind of "stroke" you are talking about! :p

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise


How is Harlem today? It's still such a myth as seen from here you know. :cool:

There's currently some killer running around. I make sure to be on the train waaay before sunset.

The one school (our ocmplex is a school within a school type deal) has kids who throw scissors out of the windows at our kids. It's a mess over there. School bym e here has been asking about me. Thinking about running the ol' resume to them.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Holly shit!
You DO, diserve your 16 weeks...

I'm going to print your reply in a big size and pin it above my desk! :D

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
I agree but of course, it depends on what kind of "stroke" you are talking about! :p

:D Really?

BTW, I'm the hairiest French teacher. :lol:

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
and I earn 26,000 euros a year (about $28,000 I think), which really sounds ridiculous... :cry:


Oh God. How is that in relation to living expenses? I know that NYC is one of the areas here with the highest-paid teacher salaries and that some teachers out in the country have similar salaries to yours.

Currently, I'm approaching 50grand. I get boosted up when I graduate in Jan with my master's :D

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
... kids who throw scissors out of the windows at our kids...

Holly Shit! :eek:
You WILL diserve your 6 figure and early age retirement!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
... I know that NYC is one of the areas here with the highest-paid teacher salaries and that some teachers out in the country have similar salaries to yours.

Currently, I'm approaching 50grand. I get boosted up when I graduate in Jan with my master's :D

Hey Jérôme, pack your bags and get your booty over to N-Y city!

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Hey Jérôme, pack your bags and get your booty over to N-Y city!

If he's smart, he'll come to the city, work as a classroom teacher, earn a master's in school admin, and become a principal.

You don't even want to know what they make over here. Let's just say they don't need to wait 20 yrs to earn 6 figures.

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
There's currently some killer running around. I make sure to be on the train waaay before sunset.

The one school (our ocmplex is a school within a school type deal) has kids who throw scissors out of the windows at our kids. It's a mess over there. School bym e here has been asking about me. Thinking about running the ol' resume to them.

:eek: Schoolchildren!...

It reminds me of the day when I took my first classrooms as I was a student volunteering for supply teaching.
The head had made me visit the (high) school, and it was break time so he introduced me to the other teachers.
The Arts teacher came to me, and she asked me: "Do you know what happened?" As I didn't know, she showed me a paper article that was pinned in a wall, telling about the supply teacher who had come before me and wound up in one of the classes with a cutter under his throat... She asked me if I still wanted to take the post, and though I was startled I answered I still did.
A couple of weeks after, once I had been handling those little monsters, that colleague told me she had said to the worst class: "This time, you'd better watch your steps: the substitute is a hefty guy who's a black belt at karate", which they believed till the end of the schoolyear. :D But I didn't "get" them that way, though. :cool:

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
If he's smart, he'll come to the city, work as a classroom teacher, earn a master's in school admin, and become a principal.

You don't even want to know what they make over here. Let's just say they don't need to wait 20 yrs to earn 6 figures.

Same here... my cousin started as a teacher then she studied some more to be a principal and then again, to be a "commissar" (boss of many principals within one district)...

I don't know how much she makes but with everything that she buys/owns, I can tell it ain't "too bad at all"!

But you know what? She tells me that she miss interacting with the kids...

Can't have it all!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Oh God. How is that in relation to living expenses? I know that NYC is one of the areas here with the highest-paid teacher salaries and that some teachers out in the country have similar salaries to yours.

Mmh... Here in France salaries are the same wherever you work, except Paris.
I live in the second most expensive area, Savoy, you know, the ski resorts, a very wealthy place, but I earn the same as teachers in the asshole of France do. It's just abnormal.


Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Currently, I'm approaching 50grand. I get boosted up when I graduate in Jan with my master's :D

Jackpot. ;) :D

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Hey Jérôme, pack your bags and get your booty over to N-Y city!

:D Watch out NYC kids! :mad:

:D

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
[B... the substitute is a hefty guy who's a black belt at karate"... [/B]

My husband went to a "hard core" high school (in a so called bad neighborhood)...

Their principal was this 6'5" colossal (muscular) man with big hands like a bear's, wearing those huge rigns and that kept on cracking his finger's joints while giving them "the look"...

Apparently, NO ONE wanted to fuck around when a teacher would threatn to send them to the principal's office!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
:D Watch out NYC kids! :mad:

:D

YOU, better watch your eyes... those scisors! :eek:

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
If he's smart, he'll come to the city, work as a classroom teacher, earn a master's in school admin, and become a principal.

You don't even want to know what they make over here. Let's just say they don't need to wait 20 yrs to earn 6 figures.

:D In this period of the year, I would sign just for anything. So, 6 figures, Big Apple... No wonder! :D

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
:D In this period of the year, I would sign just for anything. So, 6 figures, Big Apple... No wonder! :D

Well... "Come On Down"!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
My husband went to a "hard core" high school (in a so called bad neighborhood)...

Their principal was this 6'5" colossal (muscular) man with big hands like a bear's, wearing those huge rigns and that kept on cracking his finger's joints while giving them "the look"...

Apparently, NO ONE wanted to fuck around when a teacher would threatn to send them to the principal's office!

Hilarious! :D

"If you keep on chatting, I'll send you to the director, and he's going to break your bones and then cut you into small pieces and... serve you for school lunch :mad:" :D

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
Hilarious! :D

"If you keep on chatting, I'll send you to the director, and he's going to break your bones and then cut you into small pieces and... serve you for school lunch :mad:" :D

Apparently, that man didn't talk much (to the kids anyway)...
All he needed to do was to giv'em "the look"! :eek:


O.K. that was in the early 80's but still then... authority didn't have the right to physically punish a kid...
Funny how the director's physical intimidation worked anyway!

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Well... "Come On Down"!

:) At least this is something damn worth being thought over.
For the moment though, I have to go hit the sack as for the first time this year I work on Saturday mornings. :cry:

'Nite all. :cool:

[Nitro Express]

I got fucking depressed when I found out Santa Clause was not real.

[SparkieD]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I got fucking depressed when I found out Santa Clause was not real.

Hey man, Santa IS real. He's just not who you thought he was.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by SparkieD
Hey man, Santa IS real. He's just not who you thought he was.

Cheech And Chong!!!
:D

[Last_Child]

Wuhu!

Snow!

[Coyote]

Thanks, Ally! :)

[Jérôme Frenchise]

Originally posted by Last_Child
Wuhu!

Snow!

:D

Here it makes most people feel like on air cushions. Many "Savoyards" live after winter sports, which are the main hobby of those who don't.
It's when the snow won't fall that they'll feel down. :)

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Last_Child
Wuhu!

Snow!



Originally posted by Coyote
Thanks, Ally! :)

Glad I could help my Scandinavian friends. How much did y'all get and when can I visit?

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Glad I could help my Scandinavian friends. How much did y'all get and when can I visit?

Less than an inch, and ANYTIME!! :)

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Coyote
Less than an inch, and ANYTIME!! :)

Not even a full inch? That's a jip

*sends stronger snow vibes*

One day I shall get around to visiting one of my favorites areas. And make out with cute blonde guys. But yeah, ya know :D

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Not even a full inch? That's a jip

*sends stronger snow vibes*

One day I shall get around to visiting one of my favorites areas. And make out with cute blonde guys. But yeah, ya know :D

Indeed I do. :)

[Last_Child]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Glad I could help my Scandinavian friends. How much did y'all get and when can I visit?

Come by any time...

But it won't be any snow then since it startet to rain today, and the weather forecast says Rain instead of Snow in the next couple of days..

:mad:

[WARF]

My answer is no.

Depression is for those who believe in a LIE.

Those who know the TRUTH will never be depressed.

I've been called every name in the book for speaking the truth... cuz people don't wanna believe the truth... cuz their hearts are filled with LIES.

So as far as Holliday Depression goes... It's real.

You know this fucking country is messed up, when parents teach their kids to believe in a fat bearded man... instead of teaching them about the creator of the universe who loves us all.

Now that is fucked up.

[Coyote]

Originally posted by WARF
You know this fucking country is messed up, when parents teach their kids to believe in a fat bearded man... instead of teaching them about the creator of the universe who loves us all.

Oh, not again... :rolleyes: :D

[WARF]

Shut up my consigliere...
Listen to your DON WARFeone
uh uh uh uh u hu hu huh

Dude, someone asks me a question I wll provide the answer bro!

[Ellyllions]

I think it's funny when people use caustic foul language and abrasive behavior to brow beat people about religion.

It's a useful way to drive people to God.


NOT!

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by WARF
You know this fucking country is messed up, when parents teach their kids to believe in a fat bearded man... instead of teaching them about the creator of the universe who loves us all.



Very COOL!!

[WARF]

I would speak my language, but nobody would listen to what I speak.
So I use your language and I say the words FUCK SHIT PUSSY CUNT!!!
uh uh uhu huh uh u huh

I also don't really care if everyone hates me here now either.
I'd rather have the entire world hate me...
Then be an enemy of god.

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
I think it's funny when people use caustic foul language and abrasive behavior to brow beat people about religion.

It's a useful way to drive people to God.


NOT!

Sometimes I feel it's important to let people know you don't have to be lily white to be religious! If religious people are perfect in every way we would not have to go to church ... God's work would be done. But we keep going because it keeps the engine tuned! people say "DT ... how can you smoke weed and talk religion?" well it is one of my "demons" I face everyday and I'm sure the man upstairs is less than thrilled with my intake! However it a weekness of mine I tend to enjoy! I reach out to people who would never hear the word of GOD through the "mean streets!" ... if I didn't party it would be harder to reach these peoples hearts! Double edge sword I'm livin' with!

[Ellyllions]

Well, I'm sure God is real proud of you for saying words like the aforementioned proclamities. LOL.

Do you think every time you say those words, you get another jewel in your crown?

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by WARF


You know this fucking country is messed up, when parents teach their kids to believe in a fat bearded man... instead of teaching them about the creator of the universe who loves us all.



Um...ok I'll give you my side of this.

Kids understand love right? Kids also understand Jesus/God to an extent, right? Well....Santa is just a way to help kids associate the kindness and love that's supposed to be shared on Christmas. Kinda like Blues Clues teaching some educational stuff. It's for a mental anchor only and most parents use the myth of Santa to ease the larger emotional issues onto their child.


Sometimes it really is that simple.

[WARF]

Originally posted by Douglas T.
Sometimes I feel it's important to let people know you don't have to be lily white to be religious! If religious people are perfect in every way we would not have to go to church ... God's work would be done. But we keep going because it keeps the engine tuned! people say "DT ... how can you smoke weed and talk religion?" well it is one of my "demons" I face everyday and I'm sure the man upstairs is less than thrilled with my intake! However it a weekness of mine I tend to enjoy! I reach out to people who would never hear the word of GOD through the "mean streets!" ... if I didn't party it would be harder to reach these peoples hearts! Double edge sword I'm livin' with!

Exactly!!
DT!!

And you haven't sinned against god by smoking weed.
God wants us to enjoy the fruits of this earth.
SO I SAY ROLL UP YOUR BLUNTS!!!
I smoke weed and i'm a Christian!
Show me where the bible says I can't smoke weed and I will quit!
uh u hu hu hu

I go out to bars and drink too...
I'm allowed to do that too... I just can't get drunk!
God doesn't want us to get wasted...
Cuz it will lead us into temptation for other things.
I have brought alot of people to god...
by being a real person they can relate to...
It makes them realize that being a Christian isn't a horrible thing!

[WARF]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
Well, I'm sure God is real proud of you for saying words like the aforementioned proclamities. LOL.

Do you think every time you say those words, you get another jewel in your crown?

I'll say even more words than that....
SHIT
PISS
CUNT
DILDO
FROG FUCKER
COW SHIT

u hu h uhu hu hu

I will go deep into the pits of hell...
If I can bring one of us out...
u hu hu h uh uh u

Seriously, I don't want a jewel in my crown.
I don't care about money, jewelry... cars... nothing.
I care about people.

I don't even care what happens to me.

I put god first... people around me second... and myself third.

[Douglas T.]

Well your body is suposed to be kept clean. That's why I have no tattoos! But I've surely tattood my lungs with overindulgence! Moderation is the key ... unfortunatly I lost that key. Looking for it now ... brb! :drive:

[WARF]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
Um...ok I'll give you my side of this.

Kids understand love right? Kids also understand Jesus/God to an extent, right? Well....Santa is just a way to help kids associate the kindness and love that's supposed to be shared on Christmas. Kinda like Blues Clues teaching some educational stuff. It's for a mental anchor only and most parents use the myth of Santa to ease the larger emotional issues onto their child.


Sometimes it really is that simple.

I agree with you 100%.

But you can't pray to Santa.

And Santa Claus can't give you eternal life.

Santa is kewl for kids though...
But you can't forget the real meaning of Christmas!

How would you like it.... if someone celebrated KERMIT THE FROG...
On your birthday?

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by WARF
I agree with you 100%.

But you can't pray to Santa.

And Santa Claus can't give you eternal life.

Santa is kewl for kids though...
But you can't forget the real meaning of Christmas!

Who would you like it.... if someone celebrated KERMIT THE FROG...
On your birthday?

OOOH! What a grate opportunity to reintroduce....














.......oh, never mind...

;)

[Ellyllions]

Matt 5:16- Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Um, so where does this fit in with posting foul language and being caustic on a public messageboard?

Listen, I'm not trying to ruffle feathers. I'm just trying to make a point. I'm a very spiritual person who has full faith in God myself. I can't proclaim myself a "Christian" because it's a daily thing. But being a Christian is much more than just saying you are. You are supposed to be setting an example and if you want to pull people closer to God, you should be someone that people want to emulate. Not argue with.

And as far as the weed comment? Yeah, sober means not being high too.

1Thess 5:5-6- Ye are all children of the light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be <B>sober</B>.

[Douglas T.]

... as he slipped up the chimney you could hear Darth Vadar holla "The FORCE be with you! And to all a good night!"

[WARF]

Originally posted by Douglas T.
Well your body is suposed to be kept clean. That's why I have no tattoos! But I've surely tattood my lungs with overindulgence! Moderation is the key ... unfortunatly I lost that key. Looking for it now ... brb! :drive:

Shit bro...
I have a big Classic Van Halen tattoo.
I'm glad I got it before I became religious. lmao
I'm not ever gettin' rid of that tattoo...
the greatest band of all time...
David Lee Roth being the greatest frontman of all time. LOL

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by WARF
I'll say even more words than that....
SHIT
PISS
CUNT
DILDO
FROG FUCKER
COW SHIT

u hu h uhu hu hu

I will go deep into the pits of hell...
If I can bring one of us out...
u hu hu h uh uh u

Seriously, I don't want a jewel in my crown.
I don't care about money, jewelry... cars... nothing.
I care about people.

I don't even care what happens to me.

I put god first... people around me second... and myself third.

So you're a Christian only when it is convenient for you?
Hey, calling it like you're saying it man....

[Douglas T.]

Matthew kicks ASS!:cool:

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Douglas T.
... as he slipped up the chimney you could hear Darth Vadar holla "The FORCE be with you! And to all a good night!"

I left you all lightsabers...

:D

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by WARF
I agree with you 100%.

But you can't pray to Santa.

And Santa Claus can't give you eternal life.

Santa is kewl for kids though...
But you can't forget the real meaning of Christmas!

How would you like it.... if someone celebrated KERMIT THE FROG...
On your birthday?

Ridiculous analogy based on my response.

[WARF]

Originally posted by bueno bob
OOOH! What a grate opportunity to reintroduce....














.......oh, never mind...

;)

Tell me Darth Vader!
u hu hu hu huhu u

Did you know Jesus has a sheep pen too? :D
So maybe I have been a sheep this whole time, and didn't know it.
u hu hu h uh u hu hu hu
Or is Bueno Bob the good sheppard?
u hu hu h u hu hu
Will you lie down your life.... for your sheep???

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by WARF
Tell me Darth Vader!
u hu hu hu huhu u

Did you know Jesus has a sheep pen too? :D
So maybe I have been a sheep this whole time, and didn't know it.
u hu hu h uh u hu hu hu
Or is Bueno Bob the good sheppard?
u hu hu h u hu hu
Will you lie down your life.... for your sheep???

Indeed! I love da sheep! :)

[bueno bob]

Although I think it'd be best for everybody if I refrained from mentioning any "deities" here on the forums, particularly deities of a feline nature...

:eek:

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by WARF
Did you know Jesus has a sheep pen too? :D


ROTFLOL! QUOTE o' th' YEAR there! However Jesus LOVED his sheep ... but then again they couldn't make the wrong choice of listening to Spammy then either!

There's a verse that stick with me in a Van Zant tune goes "wanna hear GOD laff tell him your plans!" I've quede the song up here for ya:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=68610080

[WARF]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
Matt 5:16- Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Um, so where does this fit in with posting foul language and being caustic on a public messageboard?

Listen, I'm not trying to ruffle feathers. I'm just trying to make a point. I'm a very spiritual person who has full faith in God myself. I can't proclaim myself a "Christian" because it's a daily thing. But being a Christian is much more than just saying you are. You are supposed to be setting an example and if you want to pull people closer to God, you should be someone that people want to emulate. Not argue with.

And as far as the weed comment? Yeah, sober means not being high too.

1Thess 5:5-6- Ye are all children of the light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be <B>sober</B>.

I don't go to church very much.
But I do read the bible.
I also just witnessed that Christianity is contageous.
Because now your quoting bible verses to me. ;)
You tell me I must be SOBER.
But the bible also tells me I can drink...
But "Don't get drunk with wine".

Sober means not being high either?
Maybe that is your translation... but that is cool.
I'd rather be high on weed and drunk... and be right with god....
Then be sober and reject god.

[Coyote]

Originally posted by WARF
Shut up my consigliere...
Listen to your DON WARFeone
uh uh uh uh u hu hu huh

Dude, someone asks me a question I wll provide the answer bro!

I know. But religious content gets filtered out in my brain, from time to time. (Has ruined superb conversations, and near-superb attempts at getting laid. Or maybe I'm just being silly... Fuck it.)

Diamond Mafia... lost in cyberspace... :D

[WARF]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
So you're a Christian only when it is convenient for you?
Hey, calling it like you're saying it man....

I am a Christian everyday of my life.
But thank you for judging me.
:D

[Coyote]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Although I think it'd be best for everybody if I refrained from mentioning any "deities" here on the forums, particularly deities of a feline nature...

:eek:

Propably for the best, Bob. :)

[Coyote]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
So you're a Christian only when it is convenient for you?
Hey, calling it like you're saying it man....

WARF might seem nuts at times, but he's not a politician!! Even if he's from Florida... :D

[WARF]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Indeed! I love da sheep! :)

Ellylions is right!
I am not a Christian!
I shall now worship Bueno Bob!!
uh u hu hu u hu

He is the good shepperd!
u hu hu hu hu

I am now a "Buenist".

Protect me from the wolves...
Do not let me scatter from the rest of the sheep.
I am lost without you. :D

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by WARF
I am a Christian everyday of my life.
But thank you for judging me.
:D

Exactly! There's probably a more unseen sin there ... putting yourself above others! Probably done with more frequency too!

[WARF]

I don't care about anything here on earth!
Why do people care about money, cars, and everything on this earth?
You can't take it with you when you die!
So store all your treasures in Heaven!
People can steal your money, and your cars.
So store your treasures in heaven... where nobody can steal them!

[Douglas T.]

I'm just glad misspelling isn't a sin or I would surley be satans left hand man!

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by WARF
I am a Christian everyday of my life.
But thank you for judging me.
:D

Sorry, not judging you. Just asking a question based on your responses to my posts.

Yes, according to the Bible you can drink wine "for stomach's sake" but intoxication is intoxication. If you get high from weed then you're intoxicated. Am I wrong? However you can drink alcohol without getting intoxicated. Can you spot the difference?

I'm no saint, and I'll be the first to admit it. On my end, I drink (get drunk sometimes) and I like a long blunt once in a while. I curse, gossip, and am a very sexually charged woman. I also happen to believe that when I am judged the piddly stuff like getting drunk or high will be the lowest on the list of my many offenses.

I just find it very obtuse when people put strong curse words and follow it up with God Bless you.... And I also don't like it when uncaring people who claim to be "of God" say things like "depression is a result of not believing in God". Take a look at all the Catholic priests and Southern Evangelists and their recent trouble because of denying that humans have problems that can't be solved by not working on them but trying only to hide themselves in religion.

Depression is real and it's a human condition to be worked out. Not dropped off at God's doorstep and tried to ignore.

[LoungeMachine]

I wasn't depressed at all........

and then I read this thread.......



Cheers :gulp:

[Douglas T.]

^I'll drink to that! ;)


... nope DT don't drink! Raises the doob and say's AMEN!

Now I better have a talk with the man!

Have a great day all!

[Anonymous]

Holy Mackerel, Batman... Katydid hacked into WARF's account - and probably a lot of other accounts too.

God's a cunt. I can be good and respectful to others without believing on some "greater power" and without hoping for some eternal reward, or whatever the shit.

I can also be one mean motherfucker when somebody steps on my toes.

I am the one who decides whether I should be kind and polite or a prick.

Not "god".

Not anyone.

If people are nice... I'm nice. But turning the other cheek is just plain gay.

As far as "rewards" go... hell, being nice just for the money doesn't real count, does it? God can stick my eternal reward up his crudder - I help others and am polite to them because it makes me feel good to see a smile on other people's faces - not to impress some farted fantasy called Jehova.

Cheers! :bottle:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by WARF


But you can't pray to Santa.




I dunno about that.

I remember waking up one Christmas morning a little too early, and there was mom on her knees......welp, you get the picture.

Santa sure left us grate presents that year:D

[WARF]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
and am a very sexually charged woman.

You caught my attention right there!!
PM WARFypoo your phone number!!!
uh uh u huh
Just kiddin'

I think people take Christianity too seriously.
So I say live your life... enjoy it... speak the right message..
And pray when you screw up!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Douglas T.
^I'll drink to that! ;)


... nope DT don't drink!

S'okay, D.

I drink enough for the both of us.

:bottle:

[binnie]

I get like a kid at Christmas every year.

This year i've got a fortnight off.

I'm sat here, Cheap Trick cranked, bottle of Jack by my side and a stack of books I've not had time to read all year.

Perfect time to kick back and relax....

[WARF]

Why is George Michael on the radio?
And why am I singin' along to the words of "Careless Whisper" ?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Ellyllions


and am a very sexually charged woman. .

I never ONCE charged you.

They were always "on the house"

;)

[FORD]

Originally posted by WARF
Why is George Michael on the radio?
And why am I singin' along to the words of "Careless Whisper" ?

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[WARF]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I never ONCE charged you.

They were always "on the house"

;)

This thread was going pretty damn good.

Until Larry Flynt joined the conversation. LOL

[Ellyllions]

Cause I got coupons....LOL!

[WARF]

My work computer doesn't have any youtube capability.
I could only imagine what FORD posted.

[WARF]

LOL
Three minutes ago we were all quoting the bible.
Now it looks like we're gonna have a gangbang!
u hu hu hu uh uh
Satan has entered this thread...
And LoungeMachine has the lube...
u hu h u uh uu

I need to go re-gather myself.
And get back into Christian mode.
BRB :D

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
Um...ok I'll give you my side of this.

Kids understand love right? Kids also understand Jesus/God to an extent, right? Well....Santa is just a way to help kids associate the kindness and love that's supposed to be shared on Christmas. Kinda like Blues Clues teaching some educational stuff. It's for a mental anchor only and most parents use the myth of Santa to ease the larger emotional issues onto their child.


Sometimes it really is that simple.


That sounds nice in theory, but listen to the kiddies next time Santa is mentioned. It's all "gimme, gimme, gimme! I want this. I want that. You have anything for me?" There's no Jesus/God/Santa connection unless you make sure to lay it out for them. And if so, why make that connection? Why not inform them on the real history behind the Santa Claus figure -- Saint Nikolaos and the various other philanthropers who would give secret gifts to help out the unfortunate all year round.

Yeah, doing the whole present thing is fun to do and yeah, Christmas is no longer a Christian holiday alone. But, for those that are Christian, the facts should be laid out there, not left to be related thru a misinterpretation of a Greek saint. It's like saying that hearts and flowers help represent the love St. Valentinus had for Jesus when he refused to deny him and got his head cut off or that green beer in excess has anything to do with St. Patrick spreading Christianity in Ireland.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I dunno about that.

I remember waking up one Christmas morning a little too early, and there was mom on her knees......welp, you get the picture.

Santa sure left us grate presents that year:D

Well, that gives a whole new meaning to THAT song! lol :D

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
That sounds nice in theory, but listen to the kiddies next time Santa is mentioned. It's all "gimme, gimme, gimme! I want this. I want that. You have anything for me?" There's no Jesus/God/Santa connection unless you make sure to lay it out for them. And if so, why make that connection? Why not inform them on the real history behind the Santa Claus figure -- Saint Nikolaos and the various other philanthropers who would give secret gifts to help out the unfortunate all year round.

Yeah, doing the whole present thing is fun to do and yeah, Christmas is no longer a Christian holiday alone. But, for those that are Christian, the facts should be laid out there, not left to be related thru a misinterpretation of a Greek saint. It's like saying that hearts and flowers help represent the love St. Valentinus had for Jesus when he refused to deny him and got his head cut off or that green beer in excess has anything to do with St. Patrick spreading Christianity in Ireland.

Great points! But I didn't raise my son that Santa/God were synonymous. And I don't think the Santa Christmas and the God/Jesus Christmas should ever be the same or even taught to be the same.

Laymans terms? Kids can't "see" Jesus, kids can "see" Santa. Santa should be taught that he loves children like Jesus does. The gift part of it is a ruse to teach faith that if you behave, you'll be "rewarded". Just in the adult world to be rewarded doesn't mean that God leaves an actual wrapped toy by your bed/tree/hearth/stocking....etc.

That's how I taught it anyway...

I think sometimes we miss the whole point by trying to pinpoint the issue. When if we just relax...we can make it all work together.

[WARF]

Originally posted by Ellyllions

Laymans terms? Kids can't "see" Jesus, kids can "see" Santa. Santa should be taught that he loves children like Jesus does. The gift part of it is a ruse to teach faith that if you behave, you'll be "rewarded". Just in the adult world to be rewarded doesn't mean that God leaves an actual wrapped toy by your bed/tree/hearth/stocking....etc.

That's how I taught it anyway...



I dig that. :killer:

[LoungeMachine]

"God is a perfect musical note"

-Captain Beefheart

[LoungeMachine]

The real difference between Santa and Jesus?

Jesus Christ was a black man.

Santa was a blonde haired-blue eyed Scandahoovian.

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
When if we just relax...we can make it all work together.

:D

Naughty, naughty girl.......;)

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:D

Naughty, naughty girl.......;)

You have no idea....LOL:D

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by WARF
... FROG FUCKER...

Hey, watch your mouth young (Christian) man! :mad:

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by WARF
... we're gonna have a gangbang!... Satan has entered this thread... LoungeMachine has the lube...

Now, THAT's the X-Mas spirit I like! :D

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
... Santa was a blonde haired-blue eyed Scandahoovian...

No... Santa is an overfed, drunk, pedophile!
I saw him at the mall...

[Nitro Express]

The way my kids are acting this year, Santa is bringing a bunch of coal! I like Christmas but I hate all the greed the retail establishments fuel. Half the shit gets broken before New Years anyways.

[Nitro Express]

I always liked my New Years ski vacations. You never knew what was going to happen. It's jolly fun when the last thing you remembered was going to the bar for drinks and the next day you wake up in a strange condominium with two naked women in bed next to you!

Now with a wife and kids, New Years is having a prime rib dinner and playing Yatzee, LOL!

[binnie]

You see we start talking about Xmas and everyone gets horny as hell!

Holiday depression? Nothing get drunk and fucked can't cure!

I've got a Santa suit and I'm passing put an open invitation to the ladies out there to come sit on my lap and tell me want they want for Xmas!!

[Ellyllions]

Here's what I'm getting....I hope he remembered the gift receipt.

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[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by binnie
... I've got a Santa suit and I'm passing put an open invitation to the ladies out there to come sit on my lap and tell me want they want for Xmas!!

What?
An open suit to come and sit on?

Now X-Mas is starting to get interesting...

[binnie]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
What?
An open suit to come and sit on?

Now X-Mas is starting to get interesting...

Ha Ha!!

It would seem so wouldn't it.

The suit can be open or closed, depends on individual preference.

[binnie]

In all seriousness though, Xmas is my favourite time of year.

It's the time I get to spoil and fuss over the people I care about even more than I do during the rest of the year.

It's also about the only time of year I let myself relax and slow down a little.

It's nice to be intouch with my inner-child I guess....

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
Here's what I'm getting....I hope he remembered the gift receipt.

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Last weeks show was a hoot! What's his name from the boy band .... he was funny with his dancin' and clowning in every scene!

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
The gift part of it is a ruse to teach faith that if you behave, you'll be "rewarded".

Interesting .... hmmm!

[rustoffa]

If you really want to experience soul-bearing grief regarding holiday depression, listen to this old song from 1956. Way ahead of it's time.

Listen Here. (http://www.aquariumdrunkard.net/songs/02%2002.%20Christmas%20In%20Jail%20-%20The%20Young.mp3)

[Tiki-Tom]

The only real depressing thing about Christmas for me is no longer having some loved ones alive to spend Christmas time with the rest of the family. Otherwise it's a beautiful time of the year in the Tiki hut.

[WARF]

Your sig is crackin' me up Rustoffa!

[binnie]

Day three of the binnie holiday extravaganza.

Status: still drunk.

[WARF]

Speaking of holiday spirit...
Where is Mr. God Delussional ???
uh uhu u hu hu hu huh uh
just messin' with you sesh!

[WARF]

Here's the solution for Holiday Depression!

God tells us in the Bible that the punishment for sin is death–not just physical death, but a spiritual death which will cause separation from God and His kingdom for eternity.

The good news is that God wants you to spend eternity in heaven with Him. 2,000 years ago God sent His Son, Jesus Christ to come to this earth and die on the cross to pay the penalty for your sin.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

In other words, even though you are separated from God because of your sin, God made a way for you to come back to Him. And, He is offering this salvation to you as a free gift. All you have to do is receive it.

How do you receive this gift?
1. Admit your spiritual need, "I am a sinner."
2. Believe that Jesus Christ died for you on the cross to take away your sins.
3. Repent. In other words, be willing to turn from your sin.
4. Receive, through prayer, Jesus Christ into your heart and life. Pray:

Dear Lord Jesus,

I know that I am a sinner and need Your forgiveness. I believe that You died for my sins. I want to turn from my sins. I now invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my personal Lord and Savior.

In Jesus' name. Amen.


Pretty Kewl huh?
Now go blast your Classic Van Halen, and enjoy your new life!!!!
WARF cares... Spread the love...
Without Love... Christianity is pointless!

[Anonymous]

So... I'm to trust a guy that loved other people so much that he KILLED his own son?

Am I the only one thinking that there's something VERY wrong in this picture?

Ah, well... faith is blind, so is love... though I think that's no excuse for not using the other four senses...

Cheers! :bottle:

[binnie]

C'mon now, Christmas is about getting drunk, over-eating and spending time with loved ones (and blagging as many BJ's as possible whilst Mres Binnie's a little drunk!)

If you're religious then so be it, if you're not then don't spend your time debating the in's and out's of the nativity.

Spend it having FUN!!

[Roy Munson]

I'm thinking about killing myself this year.

I've been cutting myself routinely like the emo peeps do in order to relieve the pain.

[Anonymous]

Originally posted by binnie
C'mon now, Christmas is about getting drunk, over-eating and spending time with loved ones (and blagging as many BJ's as possible whilst Mres Binnie's a little drunk!)

If you're religious then so be it, if you're not then don't spend your time debating the in's and out's of the nativity.

Spend it having FUN!!

Ha! Now THAT I can agree with.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Douglas T.]

Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
So... I'm to trust a guy that loved other people so much that he KILLED his own son?

Am I the only one thinking that there's something VERY wrong in this picture?

Cheers! :bottle:

He didn't kill his only son ... his son gave himself up for all others. It is hard to understand if you don't want to. Cheers!

[Anonymous]

Bah... I'm following Binnie's advice and pouring Jameson down my throat.

I feel less depressed now.

Still got the blues, though - listenin' to Jimmy Dawkins 'Born in Poverty'.

In a few days all this canned joy will be over and the world will be back to its normal twisted self again.

Cheers! :bottle:

[WARF]

Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
So... I'm to trust a guy that loved other people so much that he KILLED his own son?

Am I the only one thinking that there's something VERY wrong in this picture?



He killed his son, to pay for our sins.
Anyone who believe he is lord, and accepts him into their hearts...
Recieves eternal life with GOD.
It really comes down to the battle of good and evil.
If you accept the truth (God) you will live with him.
If you accept the lie (Satan) then you can live with him.

Who do you want to spend the rest of your life with?
The one who loves you?
Or the one who hates you?

[Anonymous]

Well, for one, there's all this bad talk about the Devil, God says he's bad and shit, but he never said anything bad about God. Funny, huh?

For two, if I believe in God and am good, I'll go to Heaven. If I'm not good, I'll go to Hell. If I DON'T believe in God, it doesn't seem to matter whether I'm good or bad, I'll go to Hell anyway.

Feels like a give-it-all-or-nuthin' situation. I don't really like those.

Bah... it's all fantasy, anyway.

It's this kind of fantasy and empty faith that always gets me down this time of year... not to mention that people feel obligated to be happy this time of year... empty joy... joy in a can... whatever...

Like I said... what matters is if your actions can bring a smile to another's face - a friend, a child, a baby... your cousin, nephew/niece, a friend's child...

All the rest, all this talk about being rewarded with an eternal life with God... Bah. Couldn't care less.

I'm not doing it for the money. I'm doing it for the show.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Anonymous]

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Cheers! :bottle:

[WARF]

Hot Nuns rule!!

u hu hu hu hu hu hu

[Coyote]

Originally posted by WARF
How do you receive this gift?
1. Admit your spiritual need, "I am a sinner."
2. Believe that Jesus Christ died for you on the cross to take away your sins.
3. Repent. In other words, be willing to turn from your sin.
4. Receive, through prayer, Jesus Christ into your heart and life.

1. Why admit something I already know?
2. What Imapus said 'bout Big G wipin' out his only son...
3. "Only adventures I regret are the ones I missed"
4. WARFastrone, you're starting to sound like Katydid... :D

[binnie]

I'd like to say a very Merry Xmas to those nuns!!

[WARF]

Originally posted by Coyote
1. Why admit something I already know?
2. What Imapus said 'bout Big G wipin' out his only son...
3. "Only adventures I regret are the ones I missed"
4. WARFastrone, you're starting to sound like Katydid... :D

1. There are many types of ways of prepare Chicken (Cathloic, Christian, Lutherian etc etc) But it's all CHICKEN BABY!!!

2. Big G (God is a rapper?!?! WTF?)

3. Wasn't that A David Lee Roth quote?

4. Are you tryin' to say I sound like a pyschopath?

In closing...
I'm having a hard time tryin' to get my message across...
I have become curiously arroused by the naked nuns posted....
I gotta go get a hanky... brb...

uh u hu hu hu hu u hu

[Coyote]

Originally posted by WARF
1. There are many types of ways of prepare Chicken (Cathloic, Christian, Lutherian etc etc) But it's all CHICKEN BABY!!!

2. Big G (God is a rapper?!?! WTF?)

3. Wasn't that A David Lee Roth quote?

4. Are you tryin' to say I sound like a pyschopath?

In closing...
I'm having a hard time tryin' to get my message across...
I have become curiously arroused by the naked nuns posted....
I gotta go get a hanky... brb...

uh u hu hu hu hu u hu

1. The same can be said about pussy.

2. Given how the dude's been commercialized... it's a fitting name.

3. Yes. What, you're gonna bust my balls for using it?

4. Alright, so I went a bit too far with the comparison. At this point, you sound like religious zealot on 'Ludes. There, ya happy?

In closing...
How the fuck did a thread on depression mutate into yet another religious debate?

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Coyote

How the fuck did a thread on depression mutate into yet another religious debate?

Cuz it's a thread about depression aimed at a religious holiday. But ya know, you never hear people getting depressed because it's Kwanzaa.

Fuck it. I say we all celebrate Kwanzaa

[Anonymous]

If Kwanzaa involves getting completely wasted listening to some good kick arse rock n' roll and doing unspeakably filthy things to members of the opposite sex, I'm in.

Hell, let's start a new religion - one that Glorifies and Holyfies the aforementioned actions.

I bet we'll have no depressions amongst our faithful. Not even during our traditional Boolaheelo.

Cheers! :bottle:

[rustoffa]

Maybe the tree has some sub-Freudian effect on a fucker's state-of-mind? It's basically just standing there...mocking shit. You're having problems wrapping a hula-hoop?

It's mocking you.

You're vaccuming up the remnants of the your dog's present, after he tore it apart..5 days before Christmas?

It's mocking you.

You wander in after a long day, and realize there's a Peregrine Falcon tearing a Partidge apart..underneath it?

It's mocking you.

IMO?

It's time to kick the fucking tree's ass, and forget about being depressed.

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[Coyote]

Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
If Kwanzaa involves getting completely wasted listening to some good kick arse rock n' roll and doing unspeakably filthy things to members of the opposite sex, I'm in.

Isn't that a regular Saturday for most of us?



Hell, let's start a new religion - one that Glorifies and Holyfies the aforementioned actions.

I bet we'll have no depressions amongst our faithful. Not even during our traditional Boolaheelo.

Cheers! :bottle:

And we'd get filthy fuckin' rich in the process, especially if we get some celebs in our fold. :D

[Anonymous]

Originally posted by Coyote
Isn't that a regular Saturday for most of us?

Why stray from a well established and accepted tradition? :D


Originally posted by Coyote
And we'd get filthy fuckin' rich in the process, especially if we get some celebs in our fold. :D

This may turn out better than I than I thought...

Cheers! :bottle: