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LoungeMachine
01-16-2007, 01:00 PM
Iran
Undoing Iraq by Attacking Iran
Jacob Hornberger’s Commentary

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 -- President Bush is complaining, without irony, that Iran is interfering with the internal affairs of Iraq.

Perhaps it is finally dawning on the president what the regime change his invasion has wrought for Iraq — the ouster of an anti-Iran regime and the installation of a pro-Iran regime.

After all, keep in mind that this was the precise reason that the first President Bush did not order U.S. troops to go all the way to Baghdad during the Persian Gulf War and why U.S. forces stood aside as Saddam massacred Shiite and Kurdish insurgents after the U.S. encouraged them to rebel against Saddam: the first President Bush did not want to install an Islamic Shiite regime in Iraq that would align itself with Iran and, thus, was willing to accept the continuation of Saddam’s regime.

Yet, that is exactly what his son’s invasion has accomplished — the installation of a radical, brutal, Islamic Shiite regime that has aligned itself with Iran. Moreover, like Saddam’s regime, the new regime is torturing and killing insurgents, only this time the victims are Sunnis instead of Shiites and Kurds.

As I pointed out in a July 15, 2005, article entitled “The Pentagon: Islam’s Newest Department of Defense,” that means that U.S. troops have been and are killing and dying for Islam and for a regime that has aligned itself with a nation that President Bush is now contemplating attacking. If President Bush does in fact invade Iran, it might well surprise lots of Americans to learn that Iraq sides with Iran in the conflict.

So, why would the Islamic regime in Iraq continue to want U.S. forces to remain in Iraq? To continue killing their enemy — the Sunnis, who are now the insurgents who refuse to accept the legitimacy of a regime that was installed compliments of a foreign invasion. Here’s just the most recent example of the cozy relationship that now exists between Iran and Iraq, even while President Bush continues to rattle the sabers at Iran. At the very end of a recent article on CNN.com entitled “White House: Can’t Rule Out an Attack on Iran” is the following revealing blurb regarding the Pentagon’s arrest of five Iranians after a recent U.S. attack on an Iranian diplomatic facility in northern Iraq: “Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said he phoned his Iranian counterpart, Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki, on Friday to assure him that steps were being taken to free the five. In a written statement, Zebari said he told Mottaki that he hoped the incident ‘would not affect the brotherly relations between the two peoples and the two neighbor countries.’”

And don’t forget this July 12, 2005, Washington Post article in which Iraqi Defense Minister Defense Minister Sadoun Dulaimi “hailed the military agreement with Iran as a crucial step toward repairing relations between two countries that were at war from 1980 to 1988.”

Neo-cons are advocating war with Iran in part because of the increasing influence and power that Iran has in the Middle East. Isn’t it ironic that the neo-cons are now advocating a new war, this time on Iran, in order to undo the results of their war on Iraq? Just another day in the life of the U.S. government’s pro-empire, pro-interventionist foreign policy.

LoungeMachine
01-16-2007, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine



After all, keep in mind that this was the precise reason that the first President Bush did not order U.S. troops to go all the way to Baghdad during the Persian Gulf War and why U.S. forces stood aside as Saddam massacred Shiite and Kurdish insurgents after the U.S. encouraged them to rebel against Saddam: the first President Bush did not want to install an Islamic Shiite regime in Iraq that would align itself with Iran and, thus, was willing to accept the continuation of Saddam’s regime.

Yet, that is exactly what his son’s invasion has accomplished — the installation of a radical, brutal, Islamic Shiite regime that has aligned itself with Iran. Moreover, like Saddam’s regime, the new regime is torturing and killing insurgents, only this time the victims are Sunnis instead of Shiites and Kurds.

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Well done, BushCO.

Well done indeed. :rolleyes:

Nitro Express
01-16-2007, 04:20 PM
The US is just dumb foriegn policy wise. We backed the KLA in former Yugoslavia and they were the Taliban's herion runners into Europe. The Serbs had been our allies in WWII against Nazi Germany and were fighting a dirty war to keep the Muslims from overtaking Serbia. Sure the Serbs fought dirty but the KLA were killing their own people and blaming it on the Serbs.

Now we are in Iraq doing the same thing. Helping our enemies again.

Saddam was always Saddam he never turned on us, we turned on him. We thought it was great that he invaded Iran but when he invaded Kuwait that was bad. So now we get rid of him and created a bigger problem. If Iran ends up taking over Bagdad and a good part of Iraq, we are going to wish Saddam was back.

pflo
01-16-2007, 08:25 PM
Surely you dont expect the leader of the last superpower and most powerful country in the world to have forethought or think two steps ahead, do you? As long as he walks like a hunchback cowboy and cracks a few jokes, thats good enough. :monkey:

hideyoursheep
01-26-2007, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
The US is just dumb foriegn policy wise. We backed the KLA in former Yugoslavia and they were the Taliban's herion runners into Europe. The Serbs had been our allies in WWII against Nazi Germany and were fighting a dirty war to keep the Muslims from overtaking Serbia. Sure the Serbs fought dirty but the KLA were killing their own people and blaming it on the Serbs.

Now we are in Iraq doing the same thing. Helping our enemies again.

Saddam was always Saddam he never turned on us, we turned on him. We thought it was great that he invaded Iran but when he invaded Kuwait that was bad. So now we get rid of him and created a bigger problem. If Iran ends up taking over Bagdad and a good part of Iraq, we are going to wish Saddam was back.
I already do. :mad:

LoungeMachine
01-26-2007, 06:24 PM
4 years after "conquering" Iraq.....

Power on 4 hours a day.

20% of the country has potable water.

AND 9 BILLION US TAX DOLLARS GO UNACCOUNTED FOR BY US CONTRACTOR THEFT.

Well done, BushCO

:rolleyes:

LoungeMachine
01-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by hideyoursheep
I already do. :mad:

Having Saddam there kept Iran in check.

Knocking over Iraq, and getting out of Saudi Arabia was everything BIN LADEN AND IRAN WANTED.

Well done, BushCO

:rolleyes:

FORD
01-26-2007, 06:30 PM
It's time to accept the reality that we have NO allies in the Middle East and stay the fuck out of there.

LoungeMachine
01-26-2007, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by FORD
It's time to accept the reality that we have NO allies in the Middle East and stay the fuck out of there.

Cheney was even dispatched to SA for help, and left with his balls tucked up in his groin.

Rice has NO credibility left either.

KUWAIT is all we have left at this point.

Yippee :rolleyes:

hideyoursheep
01-26-2007, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Cheney was even dispatched to SA for help, and left with his balls tucked up in his groin.

Rice has NO credibility left either.

KUWAIT is all we have left at this point.

Yippee :rolleyes:

This is what happens when buisnessmen dictate foriegn policy and control the military,no question.

LoungeMachine
01-26-2007, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by hideyoursheep
This is what happens when buisnessmen dictate foriegn policy and control the military,no question.

Eisenhower called it. :(

FORD
01-26-2007, 10:01 PM
Eisenhower was the first BCE president, and even he realized that he should have been the last.

hideyoursheep
01-26-2007, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Eisenhower called it. :(

As did Gen. Shwartzkopf.