PDA

View Full Version : BushCO Selling Pentagon Military Surplus to Iran & China



LoungeMachine
01-16-2007, 07:29 PM
Military gear bound for Iran and China traced to Pentagon surplus sales

* US military sold forbidden equipment at least six times to middlemen for Iran and China

* Pakistani arms broker exported US missile parts to Iran

* Investigators say Pentagon’s inventory and sales controls rife with errors

WASHINGTON: The US military has sold forbidden equipment at least a half-dozen times to middlemen for countries including Iran and China who exploited security flaws in the Defence Department’s surplus auctions. The sales include fighter jet parts and missile components.

In one case, federal investigators said, the contraband made it to Iran, a country President George W Bush branded part of an “axis of evil”.

In that instance, a Pakistani arms broker convicted of exporting US missile parts to Iran resumed business after his release from prison. He purchased Chinook helicopter engine parts for Iran from a US company that had bought them in a Pentagon surplus sale. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, speaking on condition of anonymity, say those parts made it to Iran.

The surplus sales can operate like a supermarket for arms dealers.

“Right Item, Right Time, Right Place, Right Price, Every Time. Best Value Solutions for America’s Warfighters,” the Defence Reutilisation and Marketing Service says on its website, calling itself “the place to obtain original US government surplus property”.

Federal investigators are increasingly anxious that Iran is within easy reach of a top priority on its shopping list: parts for the precious fleet of F-14 “Tomcat” fighter jets the United States let Iran buy in the 1970s when it was an ally.

In one case, convicted middlemen for Iran bought Tomcat parts from the Defence Department’s surplus division. Customs agents confiscated them and returned them to the Pentagon, which sold them again - customs evidence tags still attached - to another buyer, a suspected broker for Iran.

That incident appalled even an expert on weaknesses in Pentagon surplus security controls. “That would be evidence of a significant breakdown, in my view, in controls and processes,” said Greg Kutz, the Government Accountability Office’s head of special investigations. “It shouldn’t happen the first time, let alone the second time.”

A Defence Department official, Fred Baillie, said his agency followed procedures. “The fact that those individuals chose to violate the law and the fact that the customs people caught them really indicates that the process is working,” said Baillie, the Defence Logistics Agency’s executive director of distribution. “Customs is supposed to check all exports to make sure that all the appropriate certifications and licences had been granted.”

The Pentagon recently retired its Tomcats and is shipping tens of thousands of spare parts to its surplus office - the Defence Reutilisation and Marketing Service - where they could be sold in public auctions. Iran is the only other country flying F-14s.

“It stands to reason Iran will be even more aggressive in seeking F-14 parts,” said Stephen Bogni, head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s arms export investigations. Iran can only produce about 15 percent of the parts itself, he said.

Sensitive military surplus items are supposed to be demilitarised or “de-milled” - rendered useless for military purposes - or, if auctioned, sold only to buyers who promise to obey US arms embargoes, export controls and other laws.

The GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, found it alarmingly easy to acquire sensitive surplus. Last year, its agents bought $1.1 million worth including rocket launchers, body armour and surveillance antennas by driving onto a base and posing as defence contractors.

“They helped us load our van,” Kutz said. Investigators used a fake identity to access a surplus website operated by a Pentagon contractor and bought still more, including a dozen microcircuits used on F-14 fighters. The undercover buyers received phone calls from the Defence Department asking why they had no Social Security number or credit history, but they deflected the questions by presenting a phoney utility bill and claiming to be an identity theft victim.

The Pentagon’s public surplus sales took in $57 million in fiscal 2005. The agency also moves extra supplies around within the government and gives surplus military gear such as weapons, armoured personnel carriers and aircraft to state and local law enforcement.

Investigators have found the Pentagon’s inventory and sales controls rife with errors. They say the sales are closely watched by friends and foes of the United States.

Among cases in which US military technology made its way from surplus auctions to brokers for Iran, China and others:

* Items seized in December 2000 at a Bakersfield, California, warehouse that belonged to Multicore, described by US prosecutors as a front company for Iran. Among the weaponry it acquired were fighter jet and missile components, including F-14 parts from Pentagon surplus sales, customs agents said. The surplus purchases were returned after two Multicore officers were sentenced to prison for weapons export violations. London-based Multicore is now out of business, but customs continues to investigate whether US companies sold military equipment to it illegally.

In 2005, customs agents came upon the same surplus F-14 parts with the evidence labels still attached while investigating a different company suspected of serving as an Iranian front. They seized the items again. They declined to provide details because the investigation is ongoing.

n Arif Ali Durrani, a Pakistani, was convicted last year in California in the illegal export of weapons components to the United Arab Emirates, Malaysia and Belgium in 2004 and 2005 and sentenced to just over 12 years in prison. Customs investigators say the items included Chinook helicopter engine parts for Iran that he bought from a US company that acquired them from a Pentagon surplus sale, and that those parts made it to Iran via Malaysia. Durrani is appealing his conviction.

An accomplice, former Naval intelligence officer George Budenz, pleaded guilty and was sentenced in July to a year in prison. Durrani’s prison term is his second; he was convicted in 1987 of illegally exporting US missile parts to Iran.

* State Metal Industries, a Camden, New Jersey, company convicted in June of violating export laws over a shipment of AIM-7 Sparrow missile guidance parts it bought from Pentagon surplus in 2003 and sold to an entity partly owned by the Chinese government. The company pleaded guilty to an export violation, was fined $250,000 and placed on probation for three years. Customs and Border Protection inspectors seized the parts - nearly 200 pieces of the guidance system for the Sparrow missile system - while inspecting cargo at a New Jersey port.

“Our mistake was selling it for export,” said William Robertson, State Metal’s attorney. He said the company knew the material was going to China but didn’t know the Chinese government partially owned the buyer.

* In October, Ronald Wiseman, a long-time Pentagon surplus employee in the Middle East, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 18 months in prison for stealing surplus military Humvees and selling them to a customer in Saudi Arabia from 1999 to 2002. An accomplice, fellow surplus employee Gayden Woodson, will be sentenced this month.

The Humvees were equipped for combat zones and some were not recovered, Assistant US Attorney Laura Ingersoll said.

* A California company, All Ports, shipped hundreds of containers of US military technology to China between 1994 and 1999, much of it acquired in Pentagon surplus sales, court documents show. Customs agents discovered the sales in May 1999 when All Ports tried to ship to China components for guided missiles, bombs, the B-1 bomber and underwater mines. The company and its owners were convicted in 2000; an appeals court upheld the conviction in 2002.

Representative Christopher Shays called the cases “a huge breakdown, an absolute, huge breakdown.” “The military should not sell or give away any sensitive military equipment. If we no longer need it, it needs to be destroyed - totally destroyed,” said Shays, until this month the chairman of a House panel on national security. “The Department of Defence should not be supplying sensitive military equipment to our adversaries, our enemies, terrorists.”

It is no secret to defence experts that valuable technology can be found amid surplus scrap.

On a visit to a Defence Department surplus site about five years ago, defence consultant Randall Sweeney literally stumbled upon some that clearly should not have been up for sale. “I was walking through a pile of supposedly de-milled electrical items and found a heat-seeking missile warhead intact,” Sweeney said, declining to identify the surplus location for security reasons. “I carried it over and showed them. I said, ‘This shouldn’t be in here’.”

Sweeney, president of Defence and Aerospace International in West Palm Beach, Florida, sees human error as a big problem. Surplus items are numbered, and an error of a single digit can make sensitive technology improperly available, he said. Knowledgeable buyers could easily spot a valuable item, he added: “I’m not the only sophisticated eye in the world.”

Baillie said the Pentagon was working to tighten security. Steps include setting up property centres to better identify surplus parts and employing people skilled at spotting sensitive items. If there is uncertainty about whether an item is safe, he said, it is destroyed.

Of the 76,000 parts for the F-14, 60 percent are “general hardware” such as nuts and bolts and can be sold to the public without restriction, Baillie said. About 10,000 are unique to Tomcats and will be destroyed, he said. An additional 23,000 parts are valuable for military and commercial use and are being studied to see whether it’s safe to sell them, Baillie said.

Asked why the Pentagon would sell any F-14 parts, given their value to Iran, Baillie said: “Our first priority truly is national security, and we take that very seriously. However, we have to balance that with our other requirement to be good stewards of the taxpayers’ money.”

Kutz, the government investigator, said surplus F-14 parts shouldn’t be sold. He believes Iran already has Tomcat parts from Pentagon surplus sales: “The key now is, going forward, to shut that down and not let it happen again.” ap

Ellyllions
01-16-2007, 07:34 PM
*double post*

Ellyllions
01-16-2007, 07:35 PM
Kinda makes me wonder if this isn't why the phones, bank accounts, et. al are being monitored.

Damn.

FORD
01-16-2007, 07:44 PM
The BCE has always been famous for creating their own enemies. Why change now?

LoungeMachine
01-16-2007, 08:00 PM
Can't wait for next month when WarPIG comes in and says this also happened under Clinton.

Nitro Express
01-16-2007, 09:31 PM
It's beurocracy at it's finest. The F-14 Tomcat is a complicated plane and requires a ton of maintenance to keep it flying. I don't think the ones in Iran have flown since the 1970's. Even if they could get some of them flying they are not much of a threat against our Air Force and Navy. Saddam had a better air force with the latest Soviet fighters but his piolets sucked. The US has the best piolets in the world. Nobody can beat us air power wise.

Chinook helecopter parts are trivial.

We would roll Iran in a big traditional confrontation just like we broke Iraqs back. The problem is the mopup where patrols of soldiers go out to try and keep the peace after the big armor and planes have done their job. We don't have enough people to secure Iran after we take it and that's the problem.

If Iran uses chemical or nuclear weapons their best day is the day before they use that stuff. We will clobber them in retaliation.

This is why Bush is reckless about. What happened to solving things politically? Many people in Iran like the US and hate their own regime but I can guarentee if we invade that country we lose those people and make the rest of the world hate us more. Bush could esculate the world paranoia to dangerouse levels where everyone is on high alert.

The idiot is like a bull in a china shop or a lit match in a fireworks stand.

BITEYOASS
01-16-2007, 11:40 PM
Great, if I find out that Phoenix missle parts were sold, I'm gonna be madder than hell! :mad:

LoungeMachine
01-17-2007, 10:27 AM
I like how our resident Busheep idiots are all silent on this...

No comments?

Care to defend this?

Nitro Express
01-17-2007, 04:20 PM
The Pentagon sells it's obsolete stockpiles of stuff. They always have. The problem now is terrorist groups can use some of it and do a lot of damage.

It's nothing that's much of a threat to us militarily but a small group of terrorists could kill sevral thousand people with that stuff.

More people have been killed with small arms and bombs than nuclear weapons. Sometimes the simple stuff is the weapons of mass destruction.

BigBadBrian
01-18-2007, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Can't wait for next month when WarPIG comes in and says this also happened under Clinton.

I'll do it instead. They did.

:gulp:

BigBadBrian
01-18-2007, 06:33 AM
So who's next, Iran, Syria, or North Korea?

LoungeMachine
01-18-2007, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I'll do it instead. They did.

:gulp:


Eveything changed after 9/11

Why are you on the side of terrorists?

You hate the troops.



But then you guys also let the Iraqi ammo dumps be left unguarded, resulting in US deaths.

You hate America.

BigBadBrian
01-18-2007, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Eveything changed after 9/11

Why are you on the side of terrorists?

You hate the troops.



But then you guys also let the Iraqi ammo dumps be left unguarded, resulting in US deaths.

You hate America.

Lounge, your post above was simply stupid. Sorry, but that is a fact.

I'm simply amazed at your lack of forward thinking.

You said "you guys" let the ammo dumps be unguarded? Who in the world exactly are "you guys?"

Who in the fuck do you think made those decisions?

The Administration? You're deluded.

Those decisions were made on the division or battalion level. Sorry, Bush didn't micromanage that one. Blame the military...the one you supposedly support. :rolleyes:

I hate the troops? Now you resort to making dumbass comments like turk, OD, and Devil Puss.

Grow up and debate like a real man, Lounge.

Peace out. :)

LoungeMachine
01-18-2007, 11:29 AM
Nice try, Brie...

I love it when I hit a nerve with you.

Throwing the same rhetoric BACK a you that you have used against us in the past always works on you.


The Bush administration hasn't been micro managing this war from the outset?

Tell that to Gen Shinseki, and all the others to fall by the wayside for telling TRUTH TO POWER.

You're amazed at MY lack of "forward thinking"

How classic is that?

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
01-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
So who's next, Iran, Syria, or North Korea?


Why don't "you guys" try and win the FIRST 2 wars you've started....

Then we'll see about letting you play GI again.....:rolleyes:

Sgt Schultz
01-18-2007, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Can't wait for next month when WarPIG comes in and says this also happened under Clinton.

The Clinton administration lifted restrictions exporting components / technology for the manufacture of ballistic missles to China. They also openly helped North Korea aquire the means of building their own nuclear weapons (even though Madame Albright received guarantees that they would only use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. Imagine that, the Commies lied to her).

You present this as a "BUSHCO" direct sale to Iran of weapons technology and spare parts. If one actually reads the article they can see that isn't the case.

Hardrock69
01-18-2007, 02:56 PM
It is like saying that Pepsi directly sold a can of soda to a diabetic, never mind that it was sold to a distributor, who sold it to a convenience store in Pakistan, who then sold it to a diabetic.
:rolleyes:

But then, that is not the point.

The point is, themonkey and his kast of fucking NeoCon Shitbags are pointing their fingers at Iran, and shrieking about "terrists" yet they do nothing to stop the sales.

It is the same as how they have been trying to use 9/11 as justification to increase border security, yet they refuse to secure our borders.

On the one hand they scream so loudly about "O MI GOD!!! THE TERRISTS!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!", but on the other hand they don't bother to halt arms sales to these same 'terrists', or to stop people from coming into our fucking country illegally who could easily be 'terrists'.

Just the same as all that bullshit a few years ago where they were claiming if you bought a quarter ounce of pot, you were aiding 'terrism'. Never mind the fact the Bush Criminal Empire is actively supporting terrists themselves by allowing the drug cartels to import tons of drugs into this country (courtesy of the CIA).

themonkey is such a fucking hypocrite it is unreal.

That is the point here. Not whether or not themonkey directly sold weapons to Iran.

It is the fact that even though he screams and cries about how terrists are out of control, he refuses to do anything to directly solve the problem. Sending our troops to Iraq in the first place had nothing to do with 'terrism'. He has even admitted it.

So why in the fuck are we even there?
:rolleyes:

Throwing troops over there is no answer. The Iraqi insurgency welcomes more soldiers. It just means more targets, and of course the 'terrists' are going to flock to Iraq, as they will see it as some kind of chance to throw the Americans out of Iraq.
:rolleyes:

Nickdfresh
01-18-2007, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
It's beurocracy at it's finest. The F-14 Tomcat is a complicated plane and requires a ton of maintenance to keep it flying. I don't think the ones in Iran have flown since the 1970's. Even if they could get some of them flying they are not much of a threat against our Air Force and Navy. Saddam had a better air force with the latest Soviet fighters but his piolets sucked. The US has the best piolets in the world. Nobody can beat us air power wise.

Chinook helecopter parts are trivial.

We would roll Iran in a big traditional confrontation just like we broke Iraqs back. The problem is the mopup where patrols of soldiers go out to try and keep the peace after the big armor and planes have done their job. We don't have enough people to secure Iran after we take it and that's the problem.

If Iran uses chemical or nuclear weapons their best day is the day before they use that stuff. We will clobber them in retaliation.

This is why Bush is reckless about. What happened to solving things politically? Many people in Iran like the US and hate their own regime but I can guarentee if we invade that country we lose those people and make the rest of the world hate us more. Bush could esculate the world paranoia to dangerouse levels where everyone is on high alert.

The idiot is like a bull in a china shop or a lit match in a fireworks stand.

Iran is believed to operate a small number of Tomcats through methods of "spit & gum," and outright cannibalization of part of the fleet...


In fact, when the brilliant commander of a US Navy destroyer shot down an Iranian airliner in the 80s, he in fact thought it might be an F-14.

The maddening thing here is that the F-14 was only operated by two services, the US Navy (which recently retired them), and the Shah-built Iranian airforce. So, I would think it would a pretty fucking big redflag if someone was seeking parts to this fighter, which the Iranians claim to have a weapon more sophisticated than the Phoenix AAM to arm it with...

Unbelievable...:rolleyes:

ODShowtime
01-18-2007, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Who in the fuck do you think made those decisions?

The Administration? You're deluded.

Those decisions were made on the division or battalion level. Sorry, Bush didn't micromanage that one. Blame the military...the one you supposedly support. :rolleyes:

I hate the troops? Now you resort to making dumbass comments like turk, OD, and Devil Puss.

Like I said before, you're ignorant. All the generals that were straight with the administration got the boot.

...crickets chirping...

Yes, I'm inclined to believe our military strategists were smart enough to know we had to secure the ammo dumps. I'm also inclined to believe that gw&friends vetoed the necessary troop levels.

Same with the borders.

svrwthr
01-30-2007, 07:52 PM
Today 1-30-2007

Pentagon halts sale of F-14 parts

By SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago

WASHINGTON - The
Pentagon said Tuesday it had stopped selling surplus F-14 parts, announcing the step after congressional criticism of security weaknesses that had given buyers for countries including
Iran access to the aircraft parts and other valuable gear.
yes no
yes no
yes no

Sales of parts from the recently retired fleet were halted last Friday, Defense Logistics Agency spokesman Jack Hooper said, adding that marketing of the parts will remain suspended until a "comprehensive review" is completed. He did not immediately elaborate.

The decision comes as a Democratic senator moves to cut off all Pentagon sales of surplus F-14 parts, saying the military's marketing of the spares "defies common sense" in light of their importance to Iran.

Sen. Ron Wyden (news, bio, voting record)'s bill came in response to an investigation by The Associated Press that found weaknesses in surplus-sale security that allowed buyers for countries including Iran and China to surreptitiously obtain sensitive U.S. military equipment including Tomcat parts.

The Oregon Democrat's legislation would ban the Defense Department from selling surplus F-14 parts and prohibit buyers who have already acquired surplus Tomcat parts from exporting them. Wyden's bill, the Stop Arming Iran Act, is co-sponsored by the Senate's No. 2 lawmaker, Democratic Whip Richard Durbin (news, bio, voting record) of Illinois.

The surplus sales are one of the first national security issues to be addressed by the new Democratic-controlled Congress.

"It just defies common sense to be making this kind of equipment available to the Iranians with all that they have done that is against our interests," Wyden said Monday in an interview, adding that constituents brought up the surplus-sale security problems at his town-hall meetings over the past few days. "I just want to legislate this and cut it off permanently, once and for all."

The Tomcat is the fighter jet made famous in the 1986 Tom Cruise blockbuster movie, "Top Gun." The U.S. military retired its F-14s last fall. That leaves only Iran — which bought the fighter jet in the 1970s when it was a U.S. ally — flying the planes.

U.S. law enforcement officials believe Iran can produce only about 15 percent of the parts it needs for its Tomcats, making the Pentagon's surplus sales a valuable avenue for spares.

The Pentagon had planned to sell about 60 percent of the roughly 76,000 parts for the F-14, viewing them as general nuts-and-bolts-type aircraft hardware that could be sold safely without restrictions.

Some of those spares from the newly retired fleet probably have already been sold, the Defense Logistics Agency's Hooper said. The Defense Department plans to destroy about 10,000 other components it considers unique to the F-14.

The agency had been reviewing 23,000 other parts it believed it could sell under existing law but wanted to examine further in light of their potential value to Iran. It will now also review the thousands of nuts-and-bolts-type hardware.

Wyden said his bill would cut off the sale of all surplus F-14 parts. The legislation includes all parts to cut off all opportunities for Iranian "fishing expeditions," spokeswoman Jennifer Hoelzer said, adding that GAO investigations have found valuable surplus accidentally getting included in boxes of what are supposed to be nuts-and-bolts-type hardware.

Wyden is confident he can get the bill through the Senate in the next few months. Wyden, a senior member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, also pledged greater Senate oversight of the surplus program.

Hooper declined to comment on the legislation.

"We're certainly not going to attempt to interfere whatsoever in the legislative process," Hooper said. The Defense Department maintains it has followed all procedures in selling its surplus.

The AP reported the Pentagon's F-14 part sales plans earlier this month. Its investigation found that in several cases, buyers for countries that included Iran and China took advantage of security flaws to buy sensitive surplus, including aircraft parts and missile components.

hideyoursheep
01-30-2007, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
The Pentagon sells it's obsolete stockpiles of stuff. They always have. The problem now is terrorist groups can use some of it and do a lot of damage.
It's nothing that's much of a threat to us militarily but a small group of terrorists could kill sevral thousand people with that stuff.
More people have been killed with small arms and bombs than nuclear weapons. Sometimes the simple stuff is the weapons of mass destruction.

We haven't directly sold anything to the Iranians since 1979.
Hopefully that shit they got was red tagged "DEFECTIVE".

Anybody know where that SOB Ollie North ran off to? :eek:

BITEYOASS
01-30-2007, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by hideyoursheep
We haven't directly sold anything to the Iranians since 1979.
Hopefully that shit they got was red tagged "DEFECTIVE".

Anybody know where that SOB Ollie North ran off to? :eek:

FAUX NEWS?

hideyoursheep
01-30-2007, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by BITEYOASS
FAUX NEWS?

He phone's that in. I mean, what's he doin when nobody's looking?

Most of the equipment the Iranians have is very dated,all the replacement parts for maintenance and upgrades; they have surely figured out how to manufacture themselves by now. They really don't need us to sell them anything.They sure as hell aren't gonna get the good stuff from us-hell,Israel didn't. We tend to hold that close to our vest,so to speak.