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Seshmeister
01-22-2007, 08:55 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,631357,00.html


This naturally leads to the most fascinating book ever written on the language of the Koran, and if proved to be correct in its main thesis, probably the most important book ever written on the Koran. Christoph Luxenberg's book, Die Syro-Aramaische Lesart des Koran, available only in German, came out just over a year ago, but has already had an enthusiastic reception, particularly among those scholars with a knowledge of several Semitic languages at Princeton, Yale, Berlin, Potsdam, Erlangen, Aix-en-Provence, and the Oriental Institute in Beirut.

Luxenberg tries to show that many obscurities of the Koran disappear if we read certain words as being Syriac and not Arabic. We cannot go into the technical details of his methodology but it allows Luxenberg, to the probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of sexual bliss in the Muslim hereafter, to conjure away the wide-eyed houris promised to the faithful in suras XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new analysis, leaning on the Hymns of Ephrem the Syrian, yields "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" rather than doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris. Luxenberg claims that the context makes it clear that it is food and drink that is being offerred, and not unsullied maidens or houris.

In Syriac, the word hur is a feminine plural adjective meaning white, with the word "raisin" understood implicitly. Similarly, the immortal, pearl-like ephebes or youths of suras such as LXXVI.19 are really a misreading of a Syriac expression meaning chilled raisins (or drinks) that the just will have the pleasure of tasting in contrast to the boiling drinks promised the unfaithful and damned.

As Luxenberg's work has only recently been published we must await its scholarly assessment before we can pass any judgements. But if his analysis is correct then suicide bombers, or rather prospective martyrs, would do well to abandon their culture of death, and instead concentrate on getting laid 72 times in this world, unless of course they would really prefer chilled or white raisins, according to their taste, in the next.

ELVIS
01-22-2007, 09:13 PM
Hahaha...:D

I always wondered if the female muslims get 72 male virgins...

But the thought of a sexual fantasy afterlife seems totally corrupt from a Christian standpoint...

I don't see how people fall for it, but of course Sesh, you don't see how people fall for any "superstition" so this discussion os pointless...


LMAO!


:elvis:

Seshmeister
01-22-2007, 09:36 PM
How to win the 'War on terrorism'

Lets do some number crunching.


Weight of a raisin

http://www.pre-engineering.com/resources/question01.html

A raisin weighs about 1 gram or about .0022 pounds

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http://www.amazon.com/White-Rose-Seedless-Raisins-Pack/dp/B00032HTL8

White Rose Seedless Raisins , 6 Pack, 9 oz

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00032HTL8.01-A3CDPEGSIQM61V._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Price: $1.99

9 oz = 855 raisins per pack enough for 11.875 bags of 72. Lets call it 11 allowing for waste.



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http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_numb.htm

Number of Muslims in the world:

1.200 billion, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic relations)

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11880954/

Cost of Iraq war could surpass $1 trillion



One thing is certain about the Iraq war: It has cost a lot more than advertised. In fact, the tab grows by at least $200 million each and every day.

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Cost to send a bag of 72 premium white raisins from Amazon to every Muslim in the world

$4.378 Billion / 11 = $398 000 000.

So the same cost as two days in Iraq.

You also have to think that Amazon might give a bulk purchase price reduction. Lets say that pays for the postage and packing.:)

Cheers!

:gulp:

Seshmeister
01-22-2007, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Hahaha...:D

I always wondered if the female muslims get 72 male virgins...

But the thought of a sexual fantasy afterlife seems totally corrupt from a Christian standpoint...

I don't see how people fall for it, but of course Sesh, you don't see how people fall for any "superstition" so this discussion os pointless...


LMAO!


:elvis:

Absolutely no Islam nutty shit says that female martyr muslims get guys because is a medieval sexist superstition.

As far as your superstition as I've said before I only dismiss one more superstition than you do...

Cheers!

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
01-22-2007, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS


Christian standpoint...

I don't see how people fall for it,


Oh, the irony.

In the same post, no less :D

Seshmeister
01-22-2007, 11:06 PM
Sex is corrupt too apparently but that anal fear of sex( as opposed to the fear of anal sex:)) seems to have been a mainstay of christianity ever since Paul invented it.

Anyhoo lets stay on topic.

Lets send raisins to Saudi Arabia!

Little Texan
01-23-2007, 12:59 AM
So they get 72 worn out, elderly caucasian women as opposed to 72 young, tamper-free virgins? :D

jhale667
01-23-2007, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
Anyhoo lets stay on topic.

Lets send raisins to Saudi Arabia!

These guys need a job...:D

http://www.usatoday.com/money/photos/raisin22.jpg

Seshmeister
01-23-2007, 09:11 AM
I'm afraid it's white raisins only...:)