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BITEYOASS
03-04-2007, 10:19 AM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070303-121444-5010r.htm

Rap music taking a dive, for lack of a positive vibe
By Nekesa Mumbi Moody
ASSOCIATED PRESS
March 3, 2007


NEW YORK -- Maybe it was the umpteenth coke-dealing anthem or soft-porn music video. Perhaps it was the preening antics that some call reminiscent of Stepin Fetchit.

The turning point is hard to pinpoint. But after 30 years of growing popularity, rap music is struggling with an alarming sales decline and growing criticism from within about the culture's negative effect on society.

Rap insider Chuck Creekmur, who runs the leading Web site Allhiphop.com, says he got a message from a friend recently "asking me to hook her up with some Red Hot Chili Peppers because she said she's through with rap. A lot of people are sick of rap ... the negativity is just over the top now."

The rapper Nas, considered one of the greats, challenged the condition of the art form when he titled his latest album "Hip-Hop Is Dead." It's at least ailing, according to recent statistics: Though music sales are down overall, rap sales slid an alarming 21 percent from 2005 to 2006, and for the first time in 12 years no rap album was among the top 10 sellers of the year.

A recent study by the Black Youth Project showed the majority of youth think rap has too many violent images.

In a poll of black Americans by Associated Press and AOL-Black Voices last year, 50 percent of respondents said hip-hop was a negative force in American society.

Nicole Duncan-Smith grew up on rap, worked in the rap industry for years and is married to a hip-hop producer. She still listens to rap but said it no longer speaks to or for her. She wrote the children's book "I Am Hip-Hop" partly to create something positive about rap for young children, including her 4-year-old daughter.

"I'm not removed from it, but I can't really tell the difference between Young Jeezy and Yung Joc. It's the same dumb stuff to me," says Miss Duncan-Smith, 33. "I can't listen to that nonsense. ... I can't listen to another black man talk about you don't come to the 'hood anymore and ghetto revivals. ... I'm from the 'hood. How can you tell me you want to revive it? How about you want to change it? Rejuvenate it?"

Hip-hop also increasingly seems to be blamed for a variety of social ills. Studies have attempted to link it to everything from teen drug use to increased sexual activity among girls.

Even the mayhem that broke out in Las Vegas during last month's NBA All-Star Game was blamed on hip-hoppers.

"[NBA Commissioner] David Stern seriously needs to consider moving the event out of the country for the next couple of years in hopes that young, hip-hop hoodlums would find another event to terrorize," columnist Jason Whitlock, who is black, wrote on AOL.

While rap has been in essence pop music for years, and most rap consumers are white, some worry that the black community is suffering from hip-hop -- from the way America perceives blacks to the attitudes and images being adopted by black youth.

But the rapper David Banner derides the growing criticism as blacks joining America's attack on young black men who are only reflecting the crushing problems within their communities. Besides, he says, that's the kind of music America wants to hear.

"Look at the music that gets us popular -- 'Like a Pimp,' 'Dope Boy Fresh,' " he says, naming two of his hits.

"What makes it so difficult is to know that we need to be doing other things. But the truth is at least us talking about what we're talking about, we can bring certain things to the light," he says. "They want [black artists] to shuck and jive, but they don't want us to tell the real story because they're connected to it."

Criticism of hip-hop is certainly nothing new -- it's as much a part of the culture as the beats and rhymes. Among the early accusations were that rap wasn't true music, its lyrics were too raw, its street message too polarizing. But they rarely came from the youthful audience itself, which was enraptured with genre that defined them as none other could.

"As people within the hip-hop generation get older, I think the criticism is increasing," says author Bakari Kitwana, who is currently part of a lecture tour titled "Does Hip-Hop Hate Women?"

"There was a more of a tendency when we were younger to be more defensive of it," he adds.

During her '90s crusade against rap's habit of degrading women, the late black activist C. Dolores Tucker certainly had few allies within the hip-hop community, or even among young black women. Backed by people such as conservative Republican William Bennett, Miss Tucker was vilified within rap circles.

In retrospect, "many of us weren't listening," says Tracy Denean Sharpley-Whiting, a professor at Vanderbilt University and author of the new book "Pimps Up, Ho's Down: Hip-Hop's Hold On Young Black Women."

"She was onto something, but most of us said, 'They're not calling me a [vulgar term], they're not talking about me, they're talking about those women.' But then it became clear that, you know what? Those women can be any women

BITEYOASS
03-04-2007, 10:21 AM
MUHAHAHA!

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fe_lung
03-04-2007, 11:47 AM
Now if only Kids Bop, American Idol and Nickleback will die off....

franksters
03-04-2007, 12:35 PM
nickelback can rock a crowd, i am not so crazy about the band but I think they are promoting rock better than a lot of other new band that are around right now, I saw their performance in the streets of toronto and it was just crazy... you shouldn't judge them on their ballad they can rock.

fe_lung
03-04-2007, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by franksters
nickelback can rock a crowd, i am not so crazy about the band but I think they are promoting rock better than a lot of other new band that are around right now, I saw their performance in the streets of toronto and it was just crazy... you shouldn't judge them on their ballad they can rock.

I'm not judging them on their ballad. I'm judging them on every single and video they've released all of which have been weak ass dogshit.

Unchainme
03-04-2007, 02:27 PM
Rap is very much at a point like Disco was in the late 70's, A lot of Bands like Tom Petty and The Heartbreaksers were founded because they wanted to rid the world of Disco. It's gotten so bad though, that rap makes ABBA look like Led Zeppelin in terms of talent.

Panamark
03-04-2007, 11:33 PM
ABBA were awesome songwriters, Benny and Bjorn write friggin
symphonies. ABBA's music was totally pop, but extremely well
crafted and executed.

This is great news ! Rap and Hip Hop have bored the crap out
of me since the real Van Halen split up. I always looked at it
as black street talk set to drumachines, for black people or
black wannabes..

Rock covers all spectrums and races.

THE WIGGERS ARE RETREATING !! :D

BALLYJUNKIE
03-05-2007, 01:22 AM
LORD ..... STRIKE THAT POOR WIGGER DOWN !!!!!!!..............