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Sgt Schultz
03-27-2007, 08:34 PM
Judge dismisses lawsuit against Rumsfeld By MATT APUZZO,
Former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld cannot be tried on allegations of torture in overseas military prisons, a federal judge said Tuesday in a case he described as "lamentable."

U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan threw out a lawsuit brought on behalf of nine former prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan. He said Rumsfeld cannot be held personally responsible for actions taken in connection with his government job.

The lawsuit contends the prisoners were beaten, suspended upside down from the ceiling by chains, urinated on, shocked, sexually humiliated, burned, locked inside boxes and subjected to mock executions.

Lawyers for the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First had argued that Rumsfeld and top military officials disregarded warnings about the abuse and authorized the use of illegal interrogation tactics that violated the constitutional and human rights of prisoners.

"This is a lamentable case," Hogan began his 58-page opinion.

No matter how appealing it might seem to use the courts to correct allegations of severe abuses of power, Hogan wrote, government officials are immune from such lawsuits. Additionally, foreigners held overseas are not normally afforded U.S. constitutional rights.

"Despite the horrifying torture allegations," Hogan said, he could find no case law supporting the lawsuit, which he previously had described as unprecedented.

Allowing the case to go forward, Hogan said in December, might subject government officials to all sorts of political lawsuits. Even Osama bin Laden could sue, Hogan said, claiming two American presidents threatened to have him murdered.

"There is no getting around the fact that authorizing monetary damages remedies against military officials engaged in an active war would invite enemies to use our own federal courts to obstruct the Armed Forces' ability to act decisively and without hesitation," Hogan wrote Tuesday.

Had the Rumsfeld lawsuit been allowed to go forward, attorneys for the ACLU might have been able to force the Pentagon to disclose what officials knew about abuses at prisons such as Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and what was done to stop it.

Hogan also dismissed the charges against other officials named in the lawsuit: retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, former Brig. Gen. Janis L. Karpinski and Col. Thomas M. Pappas.

Karpinski, whose Army Reserve unit was in charge of the Abu Ghraib prison, was demoted and is the highest-ranking officer punished in the scandal. Sanchez, who commanded U.S. forces in Iraq, retired from the Army and said his career was a casualty of the prison scandal.

The ACLU and Justice Department had no immediate response to the ruling.

Copyright © 2007 The Associated Press.
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Steve Savicki
03-27-2007, 08:38 PM
I didn't think anyone was immune from the law. If so, then they're not immune on Judgement Day.

FORD
03-27-2007, 08:41 PM
Judge Hogan was appointed to the United States District Court in August 1982 and became Chief Judge on June 19, 2001.

Wow, so a twice BCE appointed judge rules in favor of the BCE!

How shocking! :eek:

Nickdfresh
03-27-2007, 09:55 PM
Oh thank God! Rumsfled has won!!

One small victory for "Sgt" Schultz! That the douche bag that fucked up the Iraq War will not have to pony up...

Wooooooohew!!!

studly hungwell
03-27-2007, 10:09 PM
BCE or not...its a big deal to be an American citizen. If you are not....our laws do not apply to you. Our legal system does not recognize you. You are not privy to our constitution. This has nothing to do with politics.

FORD
03-27-2007, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by studly hungwell
BCE or not...its a big deal to be an American citizen. If you are not....our laws do not apply to you. Our legal system does not recognize you. You are not privy to our constitution. This has nothing to do with politics.

It has everything to do with politics. Specifically the politics of preventing the members of this criminal group of fascists from being charged with international war crimes, which they justly deserve for their illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation which was no threat to the United States.

But the BCE did not only break international law, they broke US law on multiple occasions. And DUMBSfeld, as the secretary of "defense" (yeah, right :rolleyes: ) would be the one in charge of enacting those crimes.

Not that it let's Chimpy off the hook. He does like to tell everyone he's the "Decider" after all.

Steve Savicki
03-27-2007, 11:12 PM
This entire time post 2000 Election has been lamentable.