World Trade Center 7 Collapse Explained

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Rosie O'Donnell 9/11 Conspiracy Comments: Popular Mechanics Responds

Recently, Rosie O’Donnell, a co-host of ABC talk show The View, made comments on the show that renewed controversy over the collapse of World Trade Center 7.

While saying she didn’t know what to believe about the U.S. government’s involvement in the attacks of Sept. 11, she said, “I do believe that it’s the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics that World Trade Center tower 7—building 7, which collapsed in on itself—it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved. World Trade Center 7. World Trade [Center] 1 and 2 got hit by planes—7, miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible.”

She continued: “To say that we don’t know that it imploded, that it was an implosion and a demolition, is beyond ignorant. Look at the films, get a physics expert here [on the show] from Yale, from Harvard, pick the school—[the collapse] defies reason.”

For those interested in what physics and demolition experts have said regarding WTC 7’s collapse, as detailed in our book Debunking 9/11 Myths, Popular Mechanics offers these notes:

1. Initial reports from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) misunderstood the amount of damage the 47-floor WTC7 sustained from the debris of the falling North Tower—because in early photographs, WTC7 was obscured by smoke and debris.

Towers 1 and 7 were approximately 300 ft. apart, and pictures like the ones here and here offer a clear visual of how small that distance is for structures that large. After further studies, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) told Popular Mechanics that debris from the 110-floor North Tower hit WTC7 with the force of a volcanic eruption. Nearly a quarter of the building was carved away over the bottom 10 stories on its south face, and significant damage was visible up to the 18th floor (see p. 24 of this report, and the screengrab below of an image of WTC7's damaged south face).

The unusual design of WTC7 is also crucial to the discussion, in that key columns supported extreme loads—as much as 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor—as the building straddled an electrical substation. “What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors,” NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder told Popular Mechanics, “it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down.” The tower wasn’t hit by a plane, but it was severely wounded by the collapse of the North Tower. Which is when the fires started.

2. The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center weren’t knocked down by planes—they both stood for more than a half-hour after the impacts. But the crashes destroyed support columns and ignited infernos that ultimately weakened—not melted—the steel structures until the towers could no longer support their own weights (NIST offers a primer here). Ms. O’Donnell fundamentally misstates the case with her use of the word “melted”: Evidence currently points to WTC7 also collapsing because fires weakened its ravaged steel structure.

Tower 7 housed the city’s emergency command center, so there were a number of fuel tanks located throughout the building—including two 6000-gal. tanks in the basement that fed some generators in the building by pressurized lines. “Our working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time,” according to Sunder. Steel melts at about 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit—but it loses strength at temperatures as low as 400 F. When temperatures break 1000 degrees F, steel loses nearly 50 percent of its strength. It is unknown what temperatures were reached inside WTC7, but fires in the building raged for seven hours before the collapse.

3. Demolition experts tell Popular Mechanics that wiring a building the size of WTC7 for clandestine demolition would present insurmountable logistical challenges. That issue aside, there’s a clear-cut engineering explanation for why the building fell the way it did. Trusses on the fifth and seventh floors of the building were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another; with the south face heavily damaged, the other columns were likely overtaxed. In engineering terms, the “progressive collapse” began on the eastern side, when weakened columns failed from the damage and fire. The entire building fell in on itself as the slumping east side dragged down the west side in a diagonal pattern. Still, damage to the Verizon Building (see p. 21 of this report), directly west of WTC7, and to Fiterman Hall directly north, show that it was hardly an orderly collapse.

NIST is currently preparing its final report on the collapse of WTC7, which is expected to be released this spring. In order to address concerns of conspiracy theorists, the organization added “Hypothetical Blast Analysis” to its research, according to a December 2006 progress report. The report also points out that “NIST has found no evidence of a blast or controlled demolition.”

[FORD]

The Popular Mechanics article was written by Benjamin Chertoff, cousin of Michael "of the Devil" Chertoff, BCE Homeland Security secretary.

Hardly a reliable source.

On the other hand, Larry Silverstein, who owned the fucking building, admitted that they "pulled" it. "Pulled" refers to controlled demolition.

And since wiring the building with charges would have been impossible to do at the scene, then it's logical that WTC 7 was pre-wired with the charges at a previous time.

Which also means the towers themselves could have also been pre-wired.

In either case, the laws of physics didn't change on 9-11-01 no matter what the cousin of a BCE flunkie says. The towers' fires were confined to a relatively small portion of the buildings, and WTC 7 didn't get hit by a plane at all.

Burning jet fuel never reached the temperature required to melt steel - though the thermite charges used in a controlled demolition would have. And traces of thermite were found on WTC debris.

[knuckleboner]

i...i...must...not...sesh! help me sesh! help me stay strong and out of this thread...

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
i...i...must...not...sesh! help me sesh! help me stay strong and out of this thread...


LOL I was just thinking the same thing.

I'll just keep it at every single fucking sentence in FORD's post is completely stupid and wrong and utter bullshit.

Run away...:)

Cheers!

:gulp:

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
I'll just keep it at every single fucking sentence in FORD's post is completely stupid and wrong and utter bullshit.


Not to mention essentially verbatim to other posts he has made over the years each time this issue is raised...

[FORD]

Hey, I didn't bring it up. As long as a BCE lie is posted in this forum, I'll counteract it with the truth. :)

[WACF]

I think one thing we can all agree on is that Rosie is a complete twat.

[FORD]

Originally posted by WACF
I think one thing we can all agree on is that Rosie is a complete twat.

But Lizzie Hasselbeck is even worse. I don't care who her brother in law is. She's a complete Busheep airhead

[WACF]

I don't watch the view...but...if you are refering to the little blonde that Rose had the exhange with in the clip that went around...I thought she was a little spark plug.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
The Popular Mechanics article was written by Benjamin Chertoff, cousin of Michael "of the Devil" Chertoff, BCE Homeland Security secretary.

Hardly a reliable source.

On the other hand, Larry Silverstein, who owned the fucking building, admitted that they "pulled" it. "Pulled" refers to controlled demolition.

And since wiring the building with charges would have been impossible to do at the scene, then it's logical that WTC 7 was pre-wired with the charges at a previous time.

Which also means the towers themselves could have also been pre-wired.

In either case, the laws of physics didn't change on 9-11-01 no matter what the cousin of a BCE flunkie says. The towers' fires were confined to a relatively small portion of the buildings, and WTC 7 didn't get hit by a plane at all.

Burning jet fuel never reached the temperature required to melt steel - though the thermite charges used in a controlled demolition would have. And traces of thermite were found on WTC debris.

Um Ford, no one's ever said the steel "melted." It was WEAKEND by the fires, which were intense...

And do you have links regarding the "pulled" admission and the Cheritoff relations?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by WACF
I don't watch the view...but...if you are refering to the little blonde that Rose had the exhange with in the clip that went around...I thought she was a little spark plug.

Yeah, I think she's kinda hot, even if her BIL is a Seahawk (and ex-Brett Favre backup), :D

[scamper]

Originally posted by FORD
But Lizzie Hasselbeck is even worse. I don't care who her brother in law is. She's a complete Busheep airhead

Lizzies hot I don't care what side she's on. Rosie is a pig with an agenda.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by FORD

Burning jet fuel never reached the temperature required to melt steel - though the thermite charges used in a controlled demolition would have. And traces of thermite were found on WTC debris.

Has anyone ever explained away the presence of thermite? Why would it be there? :confused:

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by scamper
Lizzies hot I don't care what side she's on. Rosie is a pig with an agenda.

So, in other words, she fits right in on "The View"?

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by jhale667
Has anyone ever explained away the presence of thermite? Why would it be there? :confused:

Just when i thought i was out, they drag me back in!

There was no fucking presence of thermite it's all just the usual lies and bullshit from the cuntspiracy theory idiots. These liars and twisters of the truth make the US government seem like angels.

It's based on pictures showing a 'yellow residue' or some such nonsense.

The thermite theory is just fucking ludicrous.

Read this for example

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

Cheers!

:gulp:

[jhale667]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Just when i thought i was out, they drag me back in!



Oopsie.:rolleyes: Thanks for the link.

[Seshmeister]

They state these things as fact and then build on them.

Trust me if there was anything in it I would be posting all over the place and setting up websites, the whole lot. I hate the Bush regime but I probably hate psuedo bullshit pretend science even more and these fuckers are basically making money off of the victims of 9-11 with their books, websites and videos.

Alex Jones = Haliburton.

Both are doing very well out of the misery just in different ways.

Cheers!

:gulp:

[FORD]

Sesh, you claim to value science over superstition, yet you ignore the facts.

Jet fuel, under the "best" of circumstances, does not come anywhere near the temperature required to weaken or melt steel. If it did, it would melt airplane engines, and then devour the aluminum body of the plane.

And in the case of WTC tower 2 in particular, most of the jet fuel burned outside the building in the massive fireball that we all saw repeated endlessly on TV. So that building had the lower of the two temperatures at the point of impact, yet it fell first.

Tell me, scientifically, how the fuck that makes sense?

George Bush has successfully fooled millions with his lies. But the laws of science aren't going to bend for his monkey ass.

[imike24]

Hopefully there will be sufficient evidences to prove that it was destroyed by explosive. No point make guesses.
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[BITEYOASS]

Well it may not melt steel, but it sure as hell can weaken it. Especially combined with the force of the impact and the weight of the airliner.

[spitfire ace]

I wonder if Popular Mechanics could explain why building 7's sudden collapse was forseen by the BBC's mystic presenters nearly 30 minutes before it actually did implode?

[Dave's PA Rental]

So why did they wait seven hours to "demo" WTC7?

FORD, you didnt even know that you could bake a friggin pie in a kitchen wood stove, so please stop trying to sound like you understand the physics of what went down on 9/11.

Once again, I will say this: The further away we get from 9/11/2001, the EASIER it gets for agenda-driven "experts" to introduce doubt into the reality of that day.

I know what I saw and heard that day. WTC7 was burning out of control ALL DAY.

"PULL THE BUILDING" MEANS "GET ALL THE FIREMEN OUT NOW...THERE IS NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO"!!! That is the cornerstone of conspiracy theorists, and it is so goddam retarded to think that you think it means "detonate the explosives so the building collapses".

As for the BBC tart who said WTC7 collapsed 30 minutes before it really did: Do you think it's possible for a media person, in a foreign country, to mistakenly say that a building that was burning out of control all day had collapsed? They had been saying all afternoon that it was probably going to fall...

But no. She must have managed to get a copy of the BCE's 9/11 script, and mistakenly read a few pages ahead on the air.

[Dave's PA Rental]

Do you understand what a miraculous feat of engineering it requires to succesfully demo a building? It takes weeks of preparation for a normal hi-rise, never mind the TWIN GODDAM TOWERS.

Walls have to be ripped open so that support columns are exposed for the charges to be placed. Holes need to be drilled in the concrete and steel. Hundreds of miles of wire need to be strung to connect the charges.

But they managed to do all that without any of the 20,000 normal people who worked in each tower seeing ANYTHING, right? Noone saw anything suspicious like that.

This is not an activity that you can hide. Thousands of people would have come forward with tales of the mystery construction workers ripping walls down and drilling holes and placing high-explosives and then wiring up the whole shebang...

I cant believe I have to actually type this stuff out...and yet, you still wont get it.

[scamper]

Originally posted by BITEYOASS
Well it may not melt steel, but it sure as hell can weaken it. Especially combined with the force of the impact and the weight of the airliner.

Exactly, but the reason I know the conspiracy is bullshit is because Rosie believes it.

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
Do you understand what a miraculous feat of engineering it requires to succesfully demo a building? It takes weeks of preparation for a normal hi-rise, never mind the TWIN GODDAM TOWERS.

Walls have to be ripped open so that support columns are exposed for the charges to be placed. Holes need to be drilled in the concrete and steel. Hundreds of miles of wire need to be strung to connect the charges.

But they managed to do all that without any of the 20,000 normal people who worked in each tower seeing ANYTHING, right? Noone saw anything suspicious like that.

This is not an activity that you can hide. Thousands of people would have come forward with tales of the mystery construction workers ripping walls down and drilling holes and placing high-explosives and then wiring up the whole shebang...

I cant believe I have to actually type this stuff out...and yet, you still wont get it.

I think I just fell in love with you....:D

We can't forget the miles of subway tunnels (read: open spaces) underneath the whole WTC complex that was taking a huge load of weight from the falling towers. As the tunnels collapsed, the entire slab of ground above became unstable to support the weight of the still standing buildings.

[Wallyg]

There was a fire in a 6 story building in Houston 2 weeks ago and they were just able to get into it this week to investigate and retreive 3 bodies because the fire had weakened the steel structure of the building so much it was unsafe. The fire only burned for 2 hours. The outer walls were beginning to separate so much that a big chunk of the building fell almost killing several firefighters. They had to hire a construction company to shore up the building first before going in because they feared a total collapse. This is nothing unusual and happens all the time. However, If you read about it, the ATF is there helping so I guess I can conclude this was an inside job by the government to further their diabolical plans. Why else would the ATF be there?? HUH??? LOL ! Second time fire "melted" steel!!!!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4685800.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4679538.html
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4674010.html

[Nickdfresh]

Anyone with rudimentary engineer training knows that 99% of the 9/11 conspiracy stuff is just flat out wrong.

And Sesh makes a very good point that at least some of this is financially driven...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
Sesh, you claim to value science over superstition, yet you ignore the facts.

Jet fuel, under the "best" of circumstances, does not come anywhere near the temperature required to weaken or melt steel. If it did, it would melt airplane engines, and then devour the aluminum body of the plane.

...

Utter bullshit! J4 burns extremely hot, and it did weaken, but did not melt, the steel in the Towers enabling the buckle that led to the pancake collapse.

Jesus Ford, so many of your posts are rational, then you carry on with this almost cultish nonsense...

[Dave's PA Rental]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
I think I just fell in love with you....:D

We can't forget the miles of subway tunnels (read: open spaces) underneath the whole WTC complex that was taking a huge load of weight from the falling towers. As the tunnels collapsed, the entire slab of ground above became unstable to support the weight of the still standing buildings.

I've been in love with you for a long, long time...(bring back the 'tongue-sticking-out' avatar...)

It's a miracle that more buildings didnt collapse that day, due to the seisemic activity created by those huge buildings as they fell. All of lower Manhattan is built on landfill (yes, I understand that they go down into the bedrock for foundation support).

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Just when i thought i was out, they drag me back in!

\

dude! stay strong! we cannot win this war of logic vs. conspiracy. our only option is cut and run. cut and run!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

can we start in about the "plane" that hit the pentagon? (and promptly disappeared)

[WACF]

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[WACF]

I know you can not compare the walls of the pentagon with this thick of concrete but it shows how a plane can turn into a pop can.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by WACF
I know you can not compare the walls of the pentagon with this thick of concrete but it shows how a plane can turn into a pop can.

Actually, the Pentagon is made of thick concrete. It was designed in the 1930s with air attack in mind...

[WACF]

Ahh....

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Peter Alexander Bielfeld, 44, New York, N.Y.*
William Biggart, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Brian Bilcher, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Carl Vincent Bini, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Gary Bird, 51, Tempe, Ariz.*
Joshua David Birnbaum, 24, New York, N.Y.*
George Bishop, 52, Granite Springs, N.Y.*
Jeffrey D. Bittner, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Balewa Albert Blackman, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Joseph Blackwell, 42, Patterson, N.Y.*
Susan L. Blair, 35, East Brunswick, N.J.*
Harry Blanding, 38, Blakeslee, Pa.*
Janice L. Blaney, 55, Williston Park, N.Y.*
Craig Michael Blass, 27, Greenlawn, N.Y.*
Rita Blau, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Richard M. Blood, 38, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Michael A. Boccardi, 30, Bronxville, N.Y.
John Paul Bocchi, 38, New Vernon, N.J.*
Michael L. Bocchino, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Susan Mary Bochino, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Bruce Douglas (Chappy) Boehm, 49, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Mary Katherine Boffa, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Nicholas A. Bogdan, 34, Browns Mills, N.J.*
Darren C. Bohan, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Lawrence Francis Boisseau, 36, Freehold, N.J.*
Vincent M. Boland, 25, Ringwood, N.J.*
Alan Bondarenko, 53, Flemington, N.J.*
Andre Bonheur, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Colin Arthur Bonnett, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Frank Bonomo, 42, Port Jefferson, N.Y.*
Yvonne L. Bonomo, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Sean Booker, 35, Irvington, N.J.*
Sherry Ann Bordeaux, 38, Jersey City, N.J.*
Krystine C. Bordenabe, 33, Old Bridge, N.J.*
Martin Boryczewski, 29, Parsippany, N.J.*
Richard E. Bosco, 34, Suffern, N.Y.*
John Howard Boulton, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Francisco Bourdier, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas H. Bowden, 36, Wyckoff, N.J.*
Kimberly S. Bowers, 31, Islip, N.Y.*
Veronique (Bonnie) Nicole Bowers, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Larry Bowman, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Shawn Edward Bowman, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin L. Bowser, 45, Philadelphia, Pa.*
Gary R. Box, 37, North Bellmore, N.Y.*
Gennady Boyarsky, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Pamela Boyce, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Boyle, 37, Westbury, N.Y.*
Alfred Braca, 54, Leonardo, N.J.*
Sandra Conaty Brace, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin H. Bracken, 37, New York, N.Y.*
David Brian Brady, 41, Summit, N.J.*
Alexander Braginsky, 38, Stamford, Conn.*
Nicholas W. Brandemarti, 21, Mantua, N.J.*
Michelle Renee Bratton, 23, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Patrice Braut, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Lydia Estelle Bravo, 50, Dunellen, N.J.*
Ronald Michael Breitweiser, 39, Middletown Township, N.J.*
Edward A. Brennan, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Frank H. Brennan, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Emmett Brennan, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Peter Brennan, 30, Ronkonkoma, N.Y.*
Thomas M. Brennan, 32, Scarsdale, N.Y.
Capt. Daniel Brethel, 43, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
Gary L. Bright, 36, Union City, N.J.*
Jonathan Eric Briley, 43, Mount Vernon, N.Y.*
Mark A. Brisman, 34, Armonk, N.Y.*
Paul Gary Bristow, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Victoria Alvarez Brito, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Mark Francis Broderick, 42, Old Bridge, N.J.*
Herman C. Broghammer, 58, North Merrick, N.Y.*
Keith Broomfield, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Janice J. Brown, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Lloyd Brown, 28, Bronxville, N.Y.*
Capt. Patrick J. Brown, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Bettina Browne, 49, Atlantic Beach, N.Y.*
Mark Bruce, 40, Summit, N.J.*
Richard Bruehert, 38, Westbury, N.Y.*
Andrew Brunn, 28*
Capt. Vincent Brunton, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Ronald Paul Bucca, 47, Tuckahoe, N.Y.*
Brandon J. Buchanan, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Greg Joseph Buck, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis Buckley, 38, Chatham, N.J.*
Nancy Bueche, 43, Hicksville, N.Y.*
Patrick Joseph Buhse, 36, Lincroft, N.J.*
John E. Bulaga, 35, Paterson, N.J.*
Stephen Bunin, 45, New York, N.Y.
Thomas Daniel Burke, 38, Bedford Hills, N.Y.*
Capt. William F. Burke, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Matthew J. Burke, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Donald James Burns, 61, Nissequogue, N.Y.*
Kathleen A. Burns, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Keith James Burns, 39, East Rutherford, N.J.*
John Patrick Burnside, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Irina Buslo, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Milton Bustillo, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas M. Butler, 37, Kings Park, N.Y.*
Patrick Byrne, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Timothy G. Byrne, 36, Manhattan, N.Y.*
Jesus Cabezas, 66, New York, N.Y.*
Lillian Caceres, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Brian Joseph Cachia, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Cafiero, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Richard M. Caggiano, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Cecile M. Caguicla, 55, Boonton, N.J.*
Michael John Cahill, 37, East Williston, N.Y.*
Scott W. Cahill, 30, West Caldwell, N.J.*
Thomas J. Cahill, 36, Franklin Lakes, N.J.*
George Cain, 35, Massapequa, N.Y.*
Salvatore B. Calabro, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Calandrillo, 49, Hawley, Pa.*
Philip V. Calcagno, 57, New York, N.Y.
Edward Calderon, 44, Jersey City, N.J.*
Kenneth Marcus Caldwell, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Dominick E. Calia, 40, Manalapan, N.J.*
Felix (Bobby) Calixte, 38, New York, N.Y.
Capt. Frank Callahan, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Liam Callahan, 44, Rockaway, N.J.*
Luigi Calvi, 34, East Rutherford, N.J.*
Roko Camaj, 60, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Michael Cammarata, 22, Huguenot, N.Y.*
David Otey Campbell, 51, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Geoffrey Thomas Campbell, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Sandra Patricia Campbell, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Jill Marie Campbell, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Arthur Campbell, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Juan Ortega Campos, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Sean Canavan, 39, New York, N.Y.*
John A. Candela, 42, Glen Ridge, N.J.*
Vincent Cangelosi, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen J. Cangialosi, 40, Middletown, N.J.*
Lisa B. Cannava, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Brian Cannizzaro, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Michael R. Canty, 30, Schenectady, N.Y.*
Louis A. Caporicci, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Jonathan N. Cappello, 23, Garden City, N.Y.*
James Christopher Cappers, 33, Wading River, N.Y.*
Richard M. Caproni, 34, Lynbrook, N.Y.*
Jose Cardona, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis M Carey, 51, Wantagh, N.Y.*
Edward Carlino, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Scott Carlo, 34, New York, N.Y.*
David G. Carlone, 46, Randolph, N.J.*
Rosemarie C. Carlson, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Mark Stephen Carney, 41, Rahway, N.J.
Joyce Ann Carpeneto, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Alicia Acevedo Carranza, Teziutlan, Puebla, Mexico
Jeremy M. Carrington, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Michael T. Carroll, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Peter Carroll, 42, New York, N.Y.*
James J. Carson, 32, Massapequa, N.Y.*
James Marcel Cartier, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Vivian Casalduc, 45, New York, N.Y.*
John F. Casazza, 38, Colts Neck, N.J.*
Paul Cascio, 23, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Kathleen Hunt Casey, 43, Middletown, N.J.*
Margarito Casillas, 54, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Thomas Anthony Casoria, 29, New York, N.Y.*
William Otto Caspar, 57, Eatontown, N.J.*
Alejandro Castano, 35, Englewood, N.J.*
Arcelia Castillo, 49, Elizabeth, N.J.*
Leonard M. Castrianno, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Jose Ramon Castro, 37, New York, N.Y.
Richard G. Catarelli, 47, New York, N.Y.
Christopher Sean Caton, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Robert J. Caufield, 48, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Mary Teresa Caulfield, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Judson Cavalier, 26, Huntington, N.Y.*
Michael Joseph Cawley, 32, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Jason D. Cayne, 32, Morganville, N.J.*
Juan Armando Ceballos, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Marcia G. Cecil-Carter, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Jason Cefalu, 30, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Thomas J. Celic, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Ana M. Centeno, 38, Bayonne, N.J.*
Joni Cesta, 37, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Jeffrey M. Chairnoff, 35, West Windsor, N.J.*
Swarna Chalasani, 33, Jersey City, N.J.*
William Chalcoff, 41, Roslyn, N.Y.*
Eli Chalouh, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Lawrence (Chip) Chan, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Mandy Chang, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Mark L. Charette, 38, Millburn, N.J.*
Gregorio Manuel Chavez, 48, New York, N.Y.
Jayceryll M. de Chavez, 24, Carteret, N.J.*
Pedro Francisco Checo, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Douglas MacMillan Cherry, 38, Maplewood, N.J.*
Stephen Patrick Cherry, 41, Stamford, Conn.*
Vernon Paul Cherry, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Nestor Chevalier, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Swede Joseph Chevalier, 26, Locust, N.J.*
Alexander H. Chiang, 51, New City, N.Y.*
Dorothy J. Chiarchiaro, 61, Glenwood, N.J.*
Luis Alfonso Chimbo, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Chin, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Wing Wai (Eddie) Ching, 29, Union, N.J.*
Nicholas P. Chiofalo, 39, Selden, N.Y.*
John Chipura, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Peter A. Chirchirillo, 47, Langhorne, Pa.*
Catherine E. Chirls, 47, Princeton, N.J.*
Kyung (Kaccy) Cho, 30, Clifton, N.J.*
Abul K. Chowdhury, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Mohammed Salahuddin Chowdhury, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Kirsten L. Christophe, 39, Maplewood, N.J.*
Pamela Chu, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Paul Chucknick, 44, Cliffwood Beach, N.J.*
Wai-ching Chung, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Ciafardini, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Alex F. Ciccone, 38, New Rochelle, N.Y.*
Frances Ann Cilente, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Elaine Cillo, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Edna Cintron, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Nestor Andre Cintron, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Robert Dominick Cirri, 39, Nutley, N.J.*
Juan Pablo Alvarez Cisneros, 23, Weehawken, N.J.*
Gregory Alan Clark, 40, Teaneck, N.J.*
Mannie Leroy Clark, 54, New York, N.Y.
Thomas R. Clark, 37, Summit, N.J.*
Eugene Clark, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Benjamin Keefe Clark, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Robert Clarke, 34, Philadelphia, Pa.*
Donna Clarke, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Clarke, 27, Prince's Bay, N.Y.*
Suria R.E. Clarke, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin Francis Cleary, 38, New York, N.Y.*
James D. Cleere, 55, Newton, Iowa*
Geoffrey W. Cloud, 36, Stamford, Conn.*
Susan M. Clyne, 42, Lindenhurst, N.Y.*
Steven Coakley, 36, Deer Park, N.Y.*
Jeffrey Coale, 31, Souderton, Pa.*
Patricia A. Cody, 46, Brigantine, N.J.*
Daniel Michael Coffey, 54, Newburgh, N.Y.*
Jason Matthew Coffey, 25, Newburgh, N.Y.*
Florence Cohen, 62, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin Sanford Cohen, 28, Edison, N.J.*
Anthony Joseph Coladonato, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Mark J. Colaio, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen J. Colaio, 32, Montauk, N.Y.*
Christopher M. Colasanti, 33, Hoboken, N.J.*
Michel Paris Colbert, 39, West New York, N.J.*
Kevin Nathaniel Colbert, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Keith Eugene Coleman, 34, Warren, N.J.*
Scott Thomas Coleman, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Tarel Coleman, 32*
Liam Joseph Colhoun, 34, Flushing,, N.Y.*
Robert D. Colin, 49, West Babylon, N.Y.*
Robert J. Coll, 35, Glen Ridge, N.J.*
Jean Marie Collin, 42, New York, N.Y.*
John Michael Collins, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Michael L. Collins, 38, Montclair, N.J.*
Thomas J. Collins, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Collison, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Patricia Malia Colodner, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Linda M. Colon, 46, Perrineville, N.J.*
Soledi Colon, 39, New York, N.Y.
Ronald Comer, 56, Northport, N.Y.*
Jaime Concepcion, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Albert Conde, 62, Englishtown, N.J.*
Denease Conley, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Susan Clancy Conlon, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Margaret Mary Conner, 57, New York, N.Y.*
John E. Connolly, 46, Allenwood, N.J.*
Cynthia L. Connolly, 40, Metuchen, N.J.*
James Lee Connor, 38, Summit, N.J.*
Jonathan (J.C.) Connors, 55, Old Brookville, N.Y.
Kevin P. Connors, 55, Greenwich, Conn.*
Kevin Francis Conroy, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Brenda E. Conway, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis Michael Cook, 33, Colts Neck, N.J.*
Helen D. Cook, 24, New York, N.Y.*
John A. Cooper, 40, Bayonne, N.J.*
Joseph J. Coppo, 47, New Canaan, Conn.*
Gerard J. Coppola, 46, New Providence, N.J.*
Joseph Albert Corbett, 28, Islip, N.Y.*
Alejandro Cordero, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Cordice, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Ruben D. Correa, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Danny A. Correa-Gutierrez, 25, Fairview, N.J.*
James Corrigan, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Carlos Cortes, 57, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin M. Cosgrove, 46, West Islip, N.Y.*
Dolores Marie Costa, 53, Middletown, N.J.*
Digna Alexandra Rivera Costanza, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Gregory Costello, 46, Old Bridge, N.J.*
Michael S. Costello, 27, Hoboken, N.J.*
Conrod K.H. Cottoy, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Martin Coughlan, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Sgt. John Gerard Coughlin, 43, Pomona, N.Y.*
Timothy John Coughlin, 42, New York, N.Y.*
James E. Cove, 48, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Andre Cox, 29, New York, N.Y.
Frederick John Cox, 27, New York, N.Y.*
James Raymond Coyle, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Michelle Coyle-Eulau, 38, Garden City, N.Y.*
Anne M. Cramer, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Seton Cramer, 34, Manahawkin, N.J.*
Denise Crant, 46, Hackensack, N.J.*
Robert James Crawford, 62, New York, N.Y.*
James L. Crawford, 33, Madison, N.J.*
Joanne Mary Cregan, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Lucia Crifasi, 51, Glendale, N.Y.*
Lt. John Crisci, 48, Holbrook, N.Y.*
Daniel Hal Crisman, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis A. Cross, 60, Islip Terrace, N.Y.*
Helen Crossin-Kittle, 34, Larchmont, N.Y.*
Kevin Raymond Crotty, 43, Summit, N.J.
Thomas G. Crotty, 42, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
John Crowe, 57, Rutherford, N.J.*
Welles Remy Crowther, 24, Upper Nyack, N.Y.*
Robert L. Cruikshank, 64, New York, N.Y.
Francisco Cruz, 47, New York, N.Y.*
John Robert Cruz, 32, Jersey City, N.J.*
Kenneth John Cubas, 48, Woodstock, N.Y.*
Richard Joseph Cudina, 46, Glen Gardner, N.J.*
Neil James Cudmore, 38, Port Washington, N.Y.*
Thomas Patrick Cullen, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Joan McConnell Cullinan, 47, Scarsdale, N.Y.*
Joyce Cummings, 65*
Brian Thomas Cummins, 38, Manasquan, N.J.*
Nilton Albuquerque Fernao Cunha, 41
Michael Joseph Cunningham, 39, Princeton Junction, N.J.*
Robert Curatolo, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Laurence Curia, 41, Garden City, N.Y.*
Paul Dario Curioli, 53, Norwalk, Conn.*
Beverly Curry, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Sgt. Michael Curtin, 45, Medford, N.Y.*
Gavin Cushny, 47, Hoboken, N.J.*
Caleb Arron Dack, 39, Montclair, N.J.*
Carlos S. DaCosta, 41, Elizabeth, N.J.*
John D'Allara, 47, Pearl River, N.Y.*
Vincent D'Amadeo, 36, East Patchoque, N.Y.*
Thomas A. Damaskinos, 33, Matawan, N.J.*
Jack L. D'Ambrosi, 45, Woodcliff Lake, N.J.
Jeannine Marie Damiani-Jones, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Patrick W. Danahy, 35, Yorktown Heights, N.Y.*
Nana Kwuku Danso, 47, New York, N.Y.
Mary D'Antonio, 55, New York, N.Y.
Vincent G. Danz, 38, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
Dwight Donald Darcy, 55, Bronxville, N.Y.*
Elizabeth Ann Darling, 28, Newark, N.J.*
Annette Andrea Dataram, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Edward Alexander D'Atri, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Michael D. D'Auria, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Lawrence Davidson, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Allen Davidson, 27, Westfield, N.J.*
Scott Matthew Davidson, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Titus Davidson, 55, New York, N.Y.
Niurka Davila, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Clinton Davis, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Wayne Terrial Davis, 29, Fort Meade, Md.*
Calvin Dawson, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Anthony Richard Dawson, 32, Southampton, Hampshire, England*
Edward James Day, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Emerita (Emy) De La Pena, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Melanie Louise De Vere, 30, London, England*
William T. Dean, 35, Floral Park, N.Y.*
Robert J. DeAngelis, 48, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Thomas P. Deangelis, 51, Westbury, N.Y.*
Tara Debek, 35, Babylon, N.Y.*
Anna Debin, 30, East Farmingdale, N.Y.*
James V. DeBlase, 45, Manalapan, N.J.*
Paul DeCola, 39, Ridgewood, N.Y.*
Simon Dedvukaj, 26, Mohegan Lake, N.Y.*
Jason Christopher DeFazio, 29, New York, N.Y.*
David A. Defeo, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Jennifer DeJesus, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Monique E. DeJesus, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Nereida DeJesus, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Donald A. Delapenha, 37, Allendale, N.J.*
Vito Joseph Deleo, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Danielle Delie, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Colleen Ann Deloughery, 41, Bayonne, N.J.*
Francis (Frank) Albert DeMartini, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Anthony Demas, 61, New York, N.Y.*
Martin DeMeo, 47, Farmingville, N.Y.*
Francis X. Deming, 47, Franklin Lakes, N.J.*
Carol K. Demitz, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin Dennis, 43, Peapack, N.J.
Thomas F. Dennis, 43, Setauket, N.Y.*
Jean C. DePalma, 42, Newfoundland, N.J.*
Jose Nicolas Depena, 42, New York, N.Y.
Robert J. Deraney, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Michael DeRienzo, 37, Hoboken, N.J.*
David Paul Derubbio, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Jemal Legesse DeSantis, 28, Jersey City, N.J.*
Christian L. DeSimone, 23, Ringwood, N.J.*
Edward DeSimone, 36, Atlantic Highlands, N.J.*
Lt. Andrew Desperito, 44, Patchogue, N.Y.*
Michael Jude D'Esposito, 32, Morganville, N.J.*
Cindy Ann Deuel, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Jerry DeVito, 66, New York, N.Y.*
Robert P. Devitt, 36, Plainsboro, N.J.*
Dennis Lawrence Devlin, 51, Washingtonville, N.Y.*
Gerard Dewan, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Simon Suleman Ali Kassamali Dhanani, 62, Hartsdale, N.Y.*
Michael L. DiAgostino, 41, Garden City, N.Y.*
Matthew Diaz, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Nancy Diaz, 28, New York, N.Y.
Obdulio Ruiz Diaz, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Lourdes Galletti Diaz, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Diaz-Piedra, 49*
Judith Belguese Diaz-Sierra, 32, Bay Shore, N.Y.*
Patricia F. DiChiaro, 63, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Dermot Dickey, 50, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Lawrence Patrick Dickinson, 35, Morganville, N.J.*
Michael David Diehl, 48, Brick, N.J.*
John DiFato, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Vincent F. DiFazio, 43, Hampton, N.J.*
Carl DiFranco, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Donald J. DiFranco, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Debra Ann DiMartino, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen P. Dimino, 48, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
William J. Dimmling, 47, Garden City, N.Y.*
Christopher Dincuff, 31, Jersey City, N.J.*
Jeffrey M. Dingle, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Anthony DiOnisio, 38, Glen Rock, N.J.*
George DiPasquale, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph DiPilato, 57, New York, N.Y.*
Douglas Frank DiStefano, 24, Hoboken, N.J.*
Ramzi A. Doany, 35, Bayonne, N.J., Jordanian*
John J. Doherty, 58, Hartsdale, N.Y.*
Melissa C. Doi, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Brendan Dolan, 37, Glen Rock, N.J.*
Neil Dollard, 28, Hoboken, N.J.*
James Joseph Domanico, 56, New York, N.Y.*
Benilda Pascua Domingo, 37, New York, N.Y.
Charles (Carlos) Dominguez, 34, East Meadow, N.Y.*
Geronimo (Jerome) Mark Patrick Dominguez, 37, Holtsville, N.Y.*
Lt. Kevin W. Donnelly, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Jacqueline Donovan, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen Dorf, 39, New Milford, N.J.*
Thomas Dowd, 37, Monroe, N.Y.*
Lt. Kevin Christopher Dowdell, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Mary Yolanda Dowling, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Raymond M. Downey, 63, Deer Park, N.Y.*
Joseph M. Doyle, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Frank Joseph Doyle, 39, Englewood, N.J.*
Randy Drake, 37, Lee's Summit, Mo.*
Stephen Patrick Driscoll, 38, Lake Carmel, N.Y.*
Mirna A. Duarte, 31, New York, N.Y.
Luke A. Dudek, 50, Livingston, N.J.*
Christopher Michael Duffy, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Gerard Duffy, 53, Manorville, N.Y.*
Michael Joseph Duffy, 29, Northport, N.Y.*
Thomas W. Duffy, 52, Pittsford, N.Y.
Antoinette Duger, 44, Belleville, N.J.*
Jackie Sayegh Duggan, 34*
Sareve Dukat, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Joseph Dunne, 28, Mineola, N.Y.
Richard A. Dunstan, 54, New Providence, N.J.*
Patrick Thomas Dwyer, 37, Nissequogue, N.Y.*
Joseph Anthony Eacobacci, 26, New York, N.Y.*
John Bruce Eagleson, 53, Middlefield, Conn.*
Robert D. Eaton, 37, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Dean P. Eberling, 44, Cranford, N.J.*
Margaret Ruth Echtermann, 33, Hoboken, N.J.*
Paul Robert Eckna, 28, West New York, N.J.
Constantine (Gus) Economos, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis Michael Edwards, 35, Huntington, N.Y.*
Michael Hardy Edwards, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Lisa Egan, 31, Cliffside Park, N.J.*
Capt. Martin Egan, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Egan, 51, Middletown, N.J.*
Christine Egan, 55, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada*
Samantha Egan, 24, Jersey City, N.J.*
Carole Eggert, 60, New York, N.Y.
Lisa Caren Weinstein Ehrlich, 36, New York, N.Y.*
John Ernst (Jack) Eichler, 69, Cedar Grove, N.J.*
Eric Adam Eisenberg, 32, Commack, N.Y.*
Daphne F. Elder, 36, Newark, N.J.*
Michael J. Elferis, 27, College Point, N.Y.*
Mark J. Ellis, 26, South Huntington, N.Y.*
Valerie Silver Ellis, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Albert Alfy William Elmarry, 30, North Brunswick, N.J.*
Edgar H. Emery, 45, Clifton, N.J.*
Doris Suk-Yuen Eng, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher S. Epps, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Ulf Ramm Ericson, 79, Greenwich, Conn.*
Erwin L. Erker, 41, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
William J. Erwin, 30, Verona, N.J.*
Sarah (Ali) Escarcega, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Jose Espinal, 31
Fanny M. Espinoza, 29, Teaneck, N.J.*
Francis Esposito, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Michael Esposito, 41, New York, N.Y.*
William Esposito, 51, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Brigette Ann Esposito, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Ruben Esquilin, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Sadie Ette, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Barbara G. Etzold, 43, Jersey City, N.J.*
Eric Brian Evans, 31, Weehawken, N.J.*
Robert Edward Evans, 36, Franklin Square, N.Y.*
Meredith Emily June Ewart, 29, Hoboken, N.J.*
Catherine K. Fagan, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Patricia M. Fagan, 55, Toms River, N.J.*
Keith G. Fairben, 24, Floral Park, N.Y.*
William Fallon, 38, Coram, N.Y.*
William F. Fallon, 53, Rocky Hill, N.J.*
Anthony J. Fallone, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Dolores B. Fanelli, 38, Farmingville, N.Y.*
John Joseph Fanning, 54, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Kathleen (Kit) Faragher, 33, Denver, Colo.*
Capt. Thomas Farino, 37, Bohemia, N.Y.*
Nancy Carole Farley, 45, Jersey City, N.J.*
Elizabeth Ann (Betty) Farmer, 62, New York, N.Y.*
Douglas Farnum, 33, New York, N.Y.*
John W. Farrell, 41, Basking Ridge, N.J.
Terrence Patrick Farrell, 45, Huntington, N.Y.*
John G. Farrell, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Capt. Joseph Farrelly, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas P. Farrelly, 54, East Northport, N.Y.*
Syed Abdul Fatha, 54, Newark, N.J.*
Christopher Faughnan, 37, South Orange, N.J.*
Wendy R. Faulkner, 47, Mason, Ohio*
Shannon M. Fava, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Bernard D. Favuzza, 52, Suffern, N.Y.*
Robert Fazio, 41, Freeport, N.Y.*
Ronald C. Fazio, 57, Closter, N.J.*
William Feehan, 72, New York, N.Y.*
Francis J. (Frank) Feely, 41, Middletown, N.Y.*
Garth E. Feeney, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Sean B. Fegan, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Lee S. Fehling, 28, Wantagh, N.Y.*
Peter Feidelberg, 34, Hoboken, N.J.*
Alan D. Feinberg, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Rosa Maria Feliciano, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Edward T. Fergus, 40, Wilton, Conn.
George Ferguson, 54, Teaneck, N.J.
Henry Fernandez, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Judy H. Fernandez, 27, Parlin, N.J.*
Jose Manuel Contreras Fernandez, El Aguacate, Jalisco, Mexico
Elisa Giselle Ferraina, 27, London, England*
Anne Marie Sallerin Ferreira, 29, Jersey City, N.J.*
Robert John Ferris, 63, Garden City, N.Y.*
David Francis Ferrugio, 46, Middletown, N.J.
Louis V. Fersini, 38, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Michael David Ferugio, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Bradley James Fetchet, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Jennifer Louise Fialko, 29, Teaneck, N.J.*
Kristen Fiedel, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Samuel Fields, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Bradley Finnegan, 37, Basking Ridge, N.J.
Timothy J. Finnerty, 33, Glen Rock, N.J.*
Michael Curtis Fiore, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen J. Fiorelli, 43, Aberdeen, N.J.*
Paul M. Fiori, 31, Yorktown Heights, N.Y.*
John Fiorito, 40, Stamford, Conn.*
Lt. John R. Fischer, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Andrew Fisher, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas J. Fisher, 36, Union, N.J.*
Bennett Lawson Fisher, 58, Stamford, Conn.
John Roger Fisher, 46, Bayonne, N.J.*
Lucy Fishman, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Ryan D. Fitzgerald, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Fitzpatrick, 35, Tuckahoe, N.Y.*
Richard P. Fitzsimons, 57, Lynbrook, N.Y.*
Salvatore A. Fiumefreddo, 47, Manalapan, N.J.*
Christina Donovan Flannery, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Eileen Flecha, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Andre G. Fletcher, 37, North Babylon, N.Y.*
Carl Flickinger, 38, Conyers, N.Y.*
John Joseph Florio, 33, Oceanside, N.Y.*
Joseph W. Flounders, 46, East Stroudsburg, Pa.*
David Fodor, 38, Garrison, N.Y.*
Lt. Michael N. Fodor, 53, Warwick, N.Y.*
Steven Mark Fogel, 40, Westfield, N.Y.*
Thomas Foley, 32, West Nyack, N.Y.*
David Fontana, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Chih Min (Dennis) Foo, 40, Holmdel, N.J.*
Del Rose Forbes-Cheatham, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Godwin Forde, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Donald A. Foreman, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Hugh Forsythe, 44, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Claudia Alicia Martinez Foster, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Noel J. Foster, 40, Bridgewater, N.J.*
Ana Fosteris, 58, Coram, N.Y.*
Robert J. Foti, 42, Albertson, N.Y.*
Jeffrey L. Fox, 40, Cranbury, N.J.*
Virginia Fox, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Virgin (Lucy) Francis, 62, New York, N.Y.*
Pauline Francis, 57, New York, N.Y.*
Joan Francis
Gary J. Frank, 35, South Amboy, N.J.*
Morton Frank, 31, New York, N.Y.
Peter Christopher Frank, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Richard K. Fraser, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin Joseph Frawley, 34, Bronxville, N.Y.*
Clyde Frazier, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Lillian I. Frederick, 46, Teaneck, N.J.*
Andrew Fredericks, 40, Suffern, N.Y.*
Tamitha Freemen, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Brett O. Freiman, 29, Roslyn, N.Y.*
Lt. Peter L. Freund, 45, Westtown, N.Y.*
Arlene E. Fried, 49, Roslyn Heights, N.Y.*
Alan Wayne Friedlander, 52, Yorktown Heights, N.Y.*
Andrew K. Friedman, 44, Woodbury, N.Y.*
Gregg J. Froehner, 46, Chester, N.J.*
Peter Christian Fry, 36, Wilton, Conn.*
Clement Fumando, 59, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Elliot Furman, 40, Wesley Hills, N.Y.*
Paul James Furmato, 37, Colts Neck, N.J.*
Fredric Gabler, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Richard S. Gabrielle, 50, West Haven, Conn.*
James Andrew Gadiel, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Pamela Gaff, 51, Robinsville, N.J.
Ervin Vincent Gailliard, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Deanna L. Galante, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Grace Galante, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Anthony Edward Gallagher, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Daniel James Gallagher, 23, Red Bank, N.J.*
John Patrick Gallagher, 31, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Cono E. Gallo, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Vincenzo Gallucci, 36, Monroe Township, N.J.*
Thomas Edward Galvin, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Giovanna (Genni) Gambale, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Gambino, 48, Babylon, N.Y.*
Giann F. Gamboa, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Peter J. Ganci, 55, North Massapequa, N.Y.*
Claude Michael Gann, 41, Roswell, Ga.*
Lt. Charles William Garbarini, 44, Pleasantville, N.Y.*
Cesar Garcia, 36, New York, N.Y.*
David Garcia, 40, Freeport, N.Y.*
Jorge Luis Morron Garcia, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Juan Garcia, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Marlyn C. Garcia, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Gardner, 36, Darien, Conn.*
Douglas B. Gardner, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Harvey J. Gardner, 35, Lakewood, N.J.*
Thomas A. Gardner, 39, Oceanside, N.Y.*
Jeffrey B. Gardner, 36, Hoboken, N.J.*
William Arthur Gardner, 45, Lynbrook, N.Y.*
Francesco Garfi, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Rocco Gargano, 28, Bayside, N.Y.*
James M. Gartenberg, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Matthew David Garvey, 37*
Bruce Gary, 51, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Palmina Delli Gatti, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Boyd A. Gatton, 38, Jersey City, N.J.*
Donald Richard Gavagan, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Terence D. Gazzani, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Gary Geidel, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Paul Hamilton Geier, 36, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
Julie M. Geis, 44, Lees Summit, Mo.*
Peter Gelinas, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Paul Geller, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Howard G. Gelling, 28, New York, N.Y.
Peter Victor Genco, 36, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Steven Gregory Genovese, 37, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Alayne F. Gentul, 44, Mountain Lakes, N.J.*
Edward F. Geraghty, 45, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Suzanne Geraty, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Ralph Gerhardt, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Robert J. Gerlich, 56, Monroe, Conn.*
Denis P. Germain, 33, Tuxedo Park, N.Y.*
Marina R. Gertsberg, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Susan M. Getzendanner, 57, New York, N.Y.*
James Gerard Geyer, 41, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Joseph M. Giaccone, 43, Monroe, N.J.*
Lt. Vincent Francis Giammona, 40, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Debra L. Gibbon, 43, Hackettstown, N.J.*
James A. Giberson, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Craig Neil Gibson, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Ronnie Gies, 43, Merrick, N.Y.*
Laura A. Giglio, 35, Oceanside, N.Y.*
Andrew Clive Gilbert, 39, Califon, N.J.
Timothy Paul Gilbert, 35, Lebanon, N.J.
Paul Stuart Gilbey, 39, Chatham, N.J.*
Paul John Gill, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Mark Y. Gilles, 33, New York, N.Y.
Evan H. Gillette, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Ronald Gilligan, 43, Norwalk, Conn.*
Sgt. Rodney C. Gillis, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Laura Gilly, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. John F. Ginley, 37, Warwick, N.Y.*
Jeffrey Giordano, 46, New York, N.Y.*
John Giordano, 46, Newburgh, N.Y.*
Donna Marie Giordano, 44, Parlin, N.J.*
Steven A. Giorgetti, 43, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Martin Giovinazzo, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Kum-Kum Girolamo, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Salvatore Gitto, 44, Manalapan, N.J.*
Cynthia Giugliano, 46, Nesconset, N.Y.*
Mon Gjonbalaj, 65, New York, N.Y.*
Dianne Gladstone, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Keith Alexander Glascoe, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas I. Glasser, 40, Summit, N.J.*
Harry Glenn, 38, Piscataway, N.J.*
Barry H. Glick, 55, Wayne, N.J.*
Steven Lawrence Glick, 42, Greenwich, Conn.*
John T. Gnazzo, 32, New York, N.Y.*
William (Bill) Robert Godshalk, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Gogliormella, 43, New Providence, N.J.*
Brian Fredric Goldberg, 26, Union, N.J.*
Jeffrey Grant Goldflam, 48, Melville, N.Y.*
Michelle Herman Goldstein, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Monica Goldstein, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Goldstein, 35, Princeton, N.J.*
Andrew H. Golkin, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis James Gomes, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Enrique Antonio Gomez, 42, New York, N.Y.
Jose Bienvenido Gomez, 45, New York, N.Y.
Manuel Gomez, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Wilder Gomez, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Jenine Gonzalez, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Joel Guevara Gonzalez, 23, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Rosa J. Gonzalez, 32, Jersey City, N.J.*
Mauricio Gonzalez, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Calvin J. Gooding, 38, Riverside, N.Y.*
Harry Goody, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Kiran Reddy Gopu, 24, Bridgeport, Conn.*
Catherine Carmen Gorayeb, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Kerene Gordon, 43, New York, N.Y.
Sebastian Gorki, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas E. Gorman, 41, Middlesex, N.J.*
Kieran Gorman, 35, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Michael Edward Gould, 29, Hoboken, N.J.*
Yugi Goya, 42, Rye, N.Y.*
Jon Richard Grabowski, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Michael Grady, 39, Cranford, N.J.*
Edwin John Graf, 48, Rowayton, Conn.*
David M. Graifman, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Gilbert Granados, 51, Hicksville, N.Y.*
Elvira Granitto, 43, New York, N.Y.
Winston Arthur Grant, 59, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Christopher Stewart Gray, 32, Weehawken, N.J.*
James Michael Gray, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Linda Mair Grayling, 44, New York, N.Y.*
John Michael Grazioso, 41, Middletown, N.J.*
Timothy Grazioso, 42, Gulf Stream, Fla.*
Derrick Arthur Green, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Wade Brian Green, 42, Westbury, N.Y.*
Elaine Myra Greenberg, 56, New York, N.Y.*
Gayle R. Greene, 51, Montville, N.J.*
James Arthur Greenleaf, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Eileen Marsha Greenstein, 52, Morris Plains, N.J.*
Elizabeth (Lisa) Martin Gregg, 52, New York, N.Y.
Donald H. Gregory, 62, Ramsey, N.J.*
Florence M. Gregory, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Denise Gregory, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Pedro (David) Grehan, 35, Hoboken, N.J.*
John M. Griffin, 38, Waldwick, N.J.*
Tawanna Griffin, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Joan D. Griffith, 39, Willingboro, N.J.*
Warren Grifka, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Ramon Grijalvo, 58*
Joseph F. Grillo, 46, New York, N.Y.*
David Grimner, 51, Merrick, N.Y.*
Kenneth Grouzalis, 56, Lyndhurst, N.J.*
Joseph Grzelak, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Matthew J. Grzymalski, 34, New Hyde Park, N.Y.*
Robert Joseph Gschaar, 55, Spring Valley, N.Y.*
Liming (Michael) Gu, 34, Piscataway, N.J.*
Jose A. Guadalupe, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Yan Zhu (Cindy) Guan, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Geoffrey E. Guja, 47, Lindenhurst, N.Y.*
Lt. Joseph Gullickson, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Babita Guman, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Douglas B. Gurian, 38, Tenafly, N.J.*
Philip T. Guza, 54, Sea Bright, N.J.*
Barbara Guzzardo, 49, Glendale, N.Y.*
Peter Gyulavary, 44, Warwick, N.Y.*
Gary Robert Haag, 36, Ossining, N.Y.*
Andrea Lyn Haberman, 25, Chicago, Ill.*
Barbara M. Habib, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Philip Haentzler, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Nizam A. Hafiz, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Karen Hagerty, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Hagis, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Mary Lou Hague, 26, New York, N.Y.*
David Halderman, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Maile Rachel Hale, 26, Cambridge, Mass.*
Richard Hall, 49, Purchase, N.Y.*
Vaswald George Hall, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Robert John Halligan, 59, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Lt. Vincent Gerard Halloran, 43, North Salem, N.Y.*
James D. Halvorson, 56, Greenwich, Conn.*
Mohammad Salman Hamdani, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Felicia Hamilton, 62, New York, N.Y.
Robert Hamilton, 43, Washingtonville, N.Y.*
Frederic Kim Han, 45, Marlboro, N.J.*
Christopher James Hanley, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Sean Hanley, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Valerie Joan Hanna, 57, Freeville, N.Y.*
Thomas Hannafin, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin James Hannaford, 32, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Michael L. Hannan, 34, Lynbrook, N.Y.*
Dana Hannon, 29, Suffern, N.Y.*
Vassilios G. Haramis, 56, New York, N.Y.*
James A. Haran, 41, Malverne, N.Y.*
Jeffrey P. Hardy, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Timothy John Hargrave, 38, Readington, N.J.*
Daniel Harlin, 41, Kent, N.Y.*
Frances Haros, 76, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Harvey L. Harrell, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Stephen Gary Harrell, 44, Warwick, N.Y.*
Stewart D. Harris, 52, Marlboro, N.J.*
Aisha Harris, 22, New York, N.Y.*
John Patrick Hart, 38, Danville, Calif.*
John Clinton Hartz, 64, Basking Ridge, N.J.
Emeric J. Harvey, 56, Montclair, N.J.*
Capt. Thomas Theodore Haskell, 37, Massapequa, N.Y.*
Timothy Haskell, 34, Seaford, N.Y.*
Joseph John Hasson, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Capt. Terence S. Hatton, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Leonard William Hatton, 45, Ridgefield Park, N.J.*
Michael Helmut Haub, 34, Roslyn Heights, N.Y.*
Timothy Aaron Haviland, 41, Oceanside, N.Y.*
Donald G. Havlish, 53, Yardley, Pa.*
Anthony Hawkins, 30, New York, N.Y.
Nobuhiro Hayatsu, 36, Scarsdale, N.Y.*
Philip Hayes, 67, Northport, N.Y.*
William Ward Haynes, 35, Rye, N.Y.*
Scott Hazelcorn, 29, Hoboken, N.J.*
Lt. Michael K. Healey, 42, East Patchogue, N.Y.*
Roberta Bernstein Heber, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Francis Xavier Heeran, 23, Belle Harbor, N.Y.*
John Heffernan, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Howard Joseph Heller, 37, Ridgefield, Conn.*
JoAnn L. Heltibridle, 46, Springfield, N.J.*
Mark F. Hemschoot, 45, Red Bank, N.J.*
Ronnie Lee Henderson, 52, Newburgh, N.Y.*
Janet Hendricks, 48, New York, N.Y.
Brian Hennessey, 35, Ringoes, N.J.
Michelle Marie Henrique, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph P. Henry, 25, New York, N.Y.*
William Henry, 49, New York, N.Y.*
John Henwood, 35, New York, N.Y.
Robert Allan Hepburn, 39, Union, N.J.*
Mary (Molly) Herencia, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Lindsay Coates Herkness, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Harvey Robert Hermer, 59, New York, N.Y.*
Claribel Hernandez, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Norberto Hernandez, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Raul Hernandez, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Gary Herold, 44, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
Jeffrey A. Hersch, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Hetzel, 33, Elmont, N.Y.*
Capt. Brian Hickey, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Ysidro Hidalgo-Tejada, 47, New York, N.Y., Dominican Republic*
Lt. Timothy Higgins, 43, Farmingville, N.Y.*
Robert D. Higley, 29, New Fairfield, Conn.*
Todd Russell Hill, 34, Boston, Mass.*
Clara Victorine Hinds, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Neal Hinds, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Mark D. Hindy, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Bruce Van Hine, 48, Greenwood Lake, N.Y.*
Katsuyuki Hirai, 32, Hartsdale, N.Y.
Heather Malia Ho, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Tara Yvette Hobbs, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas A. Hobbs, 41, Baldwin, N.Y.*
James L. Hobin, 47, Marlborough, Conn.*
Robert Wayne Hobson, 36, New Providence, N.J.*
DaJuan Hodges, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Ronald George Hoerner, 58, Massapequa Park, N.Y.*
Patrick Aloysius Hoey, 53, Middletown, N.J.*
Stephen G. Hoffman, 36, Long Beach, N.Y.*
Marcia Hoffman, 52, New York, N.Y.
Frederick J. Hoffmann, 53, Freehold, N.J.*
Michele L. Hoffmann, 27, Freehold, N.J.*
Judith Florence Hofmiller, 53, Brookfield, Conn.*
Thomas Warren Hohlweck, 57, Harrison, N.Y.*
Jonathan R. Hohmann, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Francis Holland, 32, Glen Rock, N.J.*
John Holland, 30
Elizabeth Holmes, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas P. Holohan, 36, Chester, N.Y.*
Bradley Hoorn, 22, New York, N.Y.*
James P. Hopper, 51, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
Montgomery McCullough Hord, 46, Pelham, N.Y.*
Michael Horn, 27, Lynbrook, N.Y.*
Matthew D. Horning, 26, Hoboken, N.J.*
Robert L. Horohoe, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Aaron Horwitz, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Charles J. Houston, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Uhuru G. Houston, 32, Englewood, N.J.*
George Howard, 45, Hicksville, N.Y.*
Steven L. Howell, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Michael C. Howell, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Jennifer L. Howley, 34, New Hyde Park, N.Y.*
Milagros "Millie" Hromada, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Marian Hrycak, 56, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen Huczko, 44, Bethlehem, N.J.*
Kris R. Hughes, 30, Nesconset, N.Y.*
Melissa Harrington Hughes, 31, San Francisco, Calif.*
Thomas F. Hughes, 46, Spring Lake Heights, N.J.*
Timothy Robert Hughes, 43, Madison, N.J.*
Paul R. Hughes, 38, Stamford, Conn.*
Robert T. "Bobby" Hughes, 23, Sayreville, N.J.*
Susan Huie, 43, Fair Lawn, N.J.*
Mychal Lamar Hulse, 30, New York, N.Y.*
William C. Hunt, 32, Norwalk, Conn.*
Joseph G. Hunter, 31, South Hempstead, N.Y.*
Robert Hussa, 51, Roslyn, N.Y.*
Capt. Walter Hynes, 46, Belle Harbor, N.Y.*
Thomas E. Hynes, 28, Norwalk, Conn.*
Joseph Anthony Ianelli, 28, Hoboken, N.J.*
Zuhtu Ibis, 25, Clifton, N.J.*
Jonathan Lee Ielpi, 29, Great Neck, N.Y.*
Michael Patrick Iken, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Daniel Ilkanayev, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Capt. Frederick Ill, 49, Pearl River, N.Y.*
Abraham Nethanel Ilowitz, 51, New York, N.Y.
Anthony P. Infante, 47, Chatham, N.J.*
Louis S. Inghilterra, 45, New Castle, N.Y.*
Christopher N. Ingrassia, 28, Watchung, N.J.*
Paul Innella, 33, East Brunswick, N.J.*
Stephanie V. Irby, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Douglas Irgang, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Todd A. Isaac, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Erik Hans Isbrandtsen, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Taizo Ishikawa, 50
Aram Iskenderian, 41, Merrick, N.Y.*
John Iskyan, 41, Wilton, Conn.*
Kazushige Ito, 35, New York, N.Y.
Aleksandr Valeryerich Ivantsov, 23, New York, N.Y.
Virginia Jablonski, 49, Matawan, N.J.*
Brooke Alexandra Jackman, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Aaron Jacobs, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Jason Kyle Jacobs, 32, Mendham, N.J.*
Michael Grady Jacobs, 54, Danbury, Conn.*
Ariel Louis Jacobs, 29, Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.*
Steven A. Jacobson, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Ricknauth Jaggernauth, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Jake Denis Jagoda, 24, Huntington, N.Y.*
Yudh V.S. Jain, 54, New City, N.Y.*
Maria Jakubiak, 41, Ridgewood, N.Y.*
Gricelda E. James, 44, Willingboro, N.J.*
Ernest James, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Mark Jardim, 39, New York, N.Y.
Mohammed Jawara, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Francois Jean-Pierre, 58, New York, N.Y.
Maxima Jean-Pierre, 40, Bellport, N.Y.
Paul E. Jeffers, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Jenkins, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Alan K. Jensen, 49, Wyckoff, N.J.*
Prem N. Jerath, 57, Edison, N.J.*
Farah Jeudy, 32, Spring Valley, N.Y.*
Hweidar Jian, 42, East Brunswick, N.J.*
Eliezer Jimenez, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Luis Jimenez, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Gregory John, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Nicholas John, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Scott M. Johnson, 26, New York, N.Y.*
LaShawana Johnson, 27, New York, N.Y.*
William Johnston, 31, North Babylon, N.Y.*
Arthur Joseph Jones, 37, Ossining, N.Y.
Allison Horstmann Jones, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Brian L. Jones, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher D. Jones, 53, Huntington, N.Y.
Donald T. Jones, 39, Livingston, N.J.*
Donald W. Jones, 43, Fairless Hills, Pa.*
Linda Jones, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Mary S. Jones, 72, New York, N.Y.*
Andrew Jordan, 35, Remsenburg, N.Y.*
Robert Thomas Jordan, 34, Williston, N.Y.*
Ingeborg Joseph, 60, Germany
Karl Henri Joseph, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen Joseph, 39, Franklin Park, N.J.*
Albert Joseph, 79
Jane Eileen Josiah, 47, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Lt. Anthony Jovic, 39, Massapequa, N.Y.*
Angel Luis Juarbe, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Karen Susan Juday, 52, New York, N.Y.*
The Rev. Mychal Judge, 68, New York, N.Y.*
Paul W. Jurgens, 47, Levittown, N.Y.*
Thomas Edward Jurgens, 26, Lawrence, N.Y.*
Kacinga Kabeya, 63, McKinney, Texas
Shashi Kiran Lakshmikantha Kadaba, 25, Hackensack, N.J.*
Gavkharoy Mukhometovna Kamardinova, 26, New York, N.Y.
Shari Kandell, 27, Wyckoff, N.J.*
Howard Lee Kane, 40, Hazlet, N.J.*
Jennifer Lynn Kane, 26, Fair Lawn, N.J.*
Vincent D. Kane, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Joon Koo Kang, 34, Riverdale, N.J.*
Sheldon R. Kanter, 53, Edison, N.J.*
Deborah H. Kaplan, 45, Paramus, N.J.*
Alvin Peter Kappelmann, 57, Green Brook, N.J.*
Charles Karczewski, 34, Union, N.J.*
William A. Karnes, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Douglas G. Karpiloff, 53, Mamaroneck, N.Y.*
Charles L. Kasper, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Andrew Kates, 37, New York, N.Y.*
John Katsimatides, 31, East Marion, N.Y.*
Sgt. Robert Kaulfers, 49, Kenilworth, N.J.*
Don Jerome Kauth, 51, Saratoga Springs, N.Y.*
Hideya Kawauchi, 36, Fort Lee, N.J.*
Edward T. Keane, 66, West Caldwell, N.J.*
Richard M. Keane, 54, Wethersfield, Conn.*
Lisa Kearney-Griffin, 35, Jamaica, N.Y.*
Karol Ann Keasler, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Paul Hanlon Keating, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Leo Russell Keene, 33, Westfield, N.J.*
Joseph J. Keller, 31, Park Ridge, N.J.*
Peter Rodney Kellerman, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph P. Kellett, 37, Riverdale, N.Y.*
Frederick H. Kelley, 57, Huntington, N.Y.*
James Joseph Kelly, 39, Oceanside, N.Y.*
Joseph A. Kelly, 40, Oyster Bay, N.Y.*
Maurice Patrick Kelly, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Richard John Kelly, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Michael Kelly, 41, Wyckoff, N.J.*
Thomas Richard Kelly, 38, Riverhead, N.Y.*
Thomas W. Kelly, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Timothy C. Kelly, 37, Port Washington, N.Y.*
William Hill Kelly, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Robert C. Kennedy, 55, Toms River, N.J.*
Thomas J. Kennedy, 36, Islip Terrace, N.Y.*
John Keohane, 41, Jersey City, N.J.*
Lt. Ronald T. Kerwin, 42, Levittown, N.Y.*
Howard L. Kestenbaum, 56, Montclair, N.J.*
Douglas D. Ketcham, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Ruth E. Ketler, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Boris Khalif, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Sarah Khan, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Taimour Firaz Khan, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Rajesh Khandelwal, 33, South Plainfield, N.J.*
SeiLai Khoo, 38, Jersey City, N.J.
Michael Kiefer, 25, Hempstead, N.Y.*
Satoshi Kikuchihara, 43, Scarsdale, N.Y.
Andrew Jay-Hoon Kim, 26, Leonia, N.J.*
Lawrence Don Kim, 31, Blue Bell, Pa.*
Mary Jo Kimelman, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Andrew Marshall King, 42, Princeton, N.J.*
Lucille T. King, 59, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Robert King, 36, Bellerose Terrace, N.Y.*
Lisa M. King-Johnson, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Takashi Kinoshita, 46, Rye, N.Y.
Chris Michael Kirby, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Howard (Barry) Kirschbaum, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Glenn Davis Kirwin, 40, Scarsdale, N.Y.*
Richard J. Klares, 59, Somers, N.Y.*
Peter A. Klein, 35, Weehawken, N.J.*
Alan D. Kleinberg, 39, East Brunswick, N.J.*
Karen J. Klitzman, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Ronald Philip Kloepfer, 39, Franklin Square, N.Y.*
Yevgeny Kniazev, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Patrick Knox, 31, Hoboken, N.J.*
Andrew Knox, 30, Adelaide, Australia*
Rebecca Lee Koborie, 48, Guttenberg, N.J.*
Deborah Kobus, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Gary Edward Koecheler, 57, Harrison, N.Y.*
Frank J. Koestner, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Ryan Kohart, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Vanessa Lynn Kolpak, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Irina Kolpakova, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Suzanne Kondratenko, 27, Chicago, Ill.*
Abdoulaye Kone, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Bon-seok Koo, 42, River Edge, N.J.*
Dorota Kopiczko, 26, Nutley, N.J.*
Scott Kopytko, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Bojan Kostic, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Danielle Kousoulis, 29, New York, N.Y.*
John J. Kren, 52*
William Krukowski, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Lyudmila Ksido, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Shekhar Kumar, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Kenneth Kumpel, 42, Cornwall, N.Y.*
Frederick Kuo, 53, Great Neck, N.Y.*
Patricia Kuras, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Nauka Kushitani, 44, New York, N.Y.
Thomas Joseph Kuveikis, 48, Carmel, N.Y.*
Victor Kwarkye, 35, New York, N.Y.
Kui Fai Kwok, 31, New York, N.Y.
Angela R. Kyte, 49, Boonton, N.J.*
Amarnauth Lachhman, 42, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Andrew LaCorte, 61, Jersey City, N.J.*
Ganesh Ladkat, 27, Somerset, N.J.*
James P. Ladley, 41, Colts Neck, N.J.*
Daniel M. Van Laere, 46, Glen Rock, N.J.*
Joseph A. Lafalce, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Jeanette LaFond-Menichino, 49, New York, N.Y.*
David LaForge, 50, Port Richmond, N.Y.*
Michael Patrick LaForte, 39, Holmdel, N.J.*
Alan Lafrance, 43*
Juan Lafuente, 61, Poughkeepsie, N.Y.*
Neil K. Lai, 59, East Windsor, N.J.
Vincent A. Laieta, 31, Edison, N.J.*
William David Lake, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Franco Lalama, 45, Nutley, N.J.*
Chow Kwan Lam, 48, Maywood, N.J.*
Stephen LaMantia, 38, Darien, Conn.*
Amy Hope Lamonsoff, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Robert T. Lane, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Brendan M. Lang, 30, Red Bank, N.J.*
Rosanne P. Lang, 42, Middletown, N.J.*
Vanessa Langer, 29, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Mary Lou Langley, 53, New York, N.Y.
Peter J. Langone, 41, Roslyn Heights, N.Y.*
Thomas Langone, 39, Williston Park, N.Y.*
Michele B. Lanza, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Ruth Sheila Lapin, 53, East Windsor, N.J.*
Carol Ann LaPlante, 59, New York, N.Y.*
Ingeborg Astrid Desiree Lariby, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Robin Larkey, 48, Chatham, N.J.*
Christopher Randall Larrabee, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Hamidou S. Larry, 37, New York, N.Y.
Scott Larsen, 35, New York, N.Y.*
John Adam Larson, 37, Colonia, N.J.*
Gary E. Lasko, 49, Memphis, Tenn.*
Nicholas C. Lassman, 28, Cliffside Park, N.J.*
Paul Laszczynski, 49, Paramus, N.J.*
Jeffrey Latouche, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Cristina de Laura
Oscar de Laura
Charles Laurencin, 61, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen James Lauria, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Maria Lavache, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Denis F. Lavelle, 42, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Jeannine M. LaVerde, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Anna A. Laverty, 52, Middletown, N.J.*
Steven Lawn, 28, West Windsor, N.J.*
Robert A. Lawrence, 41, Summit, N.J.*
Nathaniel Lawson, 61, New York, N.Y.*
Eugen Lazar, 27, New York, N.Y.*
James Patrick Leahy, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Joseph Gerard Leavey, 45, Pelham, N.Y.*
Neil Leavy, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Leon Lebor, 51, Jersey City, N.J.*
Kenneth Charles Ledee, 38, Monmouth, N.J.
Alan J. Lederman, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Elena Ledesma, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Alexis Leduc, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Myung-woo Lee, 41, Lyndhurst, N.J.
David S. Lee, 37, West Orange, N.J.*
Gary H. Lee, 62, Lindenhurst, N.Y.*
Hyun-joon (Paul) Lee, 32, New York, N.Y.
Jong-min Lee, 24, New York, N.Y.
Juanita Lee, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Lorraine Lee, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Y.C. Lee, 34, Great Neck, N.Y.*
Yang Der Lee, 63, New York, N.Y.*
Kathryn Blair Lee, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Stuart (Soo-Jin) Lee, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Linda C. Lee, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen Lefkowitz, 50, Belle Harbor, N.Y.*
Adriana Legro, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Edward J. Lehman, 41, Glen Cove, N.Y.*
Eric Andrew Lehrfeld, 32, New York, N.Y.*
David Ralph Leistman, 43, Garden City, N.Y.*
David Prudencio LeMagne, 27, North Bergen, N.J.*
Joseph A. Lenihan, 41, Greenwich, Conn.*
John J. Lennon, 44, Howell, N.J.*
John Robinson Lenoir, 38, Locust Valley, N.Y.*
Jorge Luis Leon, 43, Union City, N.J.
Matthew Gerard Leonard, 38, New York, N.Y.
Michael Lepore, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Antoine Lesperance, 55*
Jeffrey Earle LeVeen, 55, Manhasset, N.Y.*
John D. Levi, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Alisha Caren Levin, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Neil D. Levin, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Levine, 56, West Babylon, N.Y.
Robert M. Levine, 66, Edgewater, N.J.*
Shai Levinhar, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Adam J. Lewis, 36, Fairfield, Conn.*
Margaret Susan Lewis, 49, Elizabeth, N.J.*
Ye Wei Liang, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Orasri Liangthanasarn, 26, Bayonne, N.J.*
Daniel F. Libretti, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Ralph M. Licciardi, 30, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Edward Lichtschein, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Steven B. Lillianthal, 38, Millburn, N.J.*
Carlos R. Lillo, 37, Babylon, N.Y.*
Craig Damian Lilore, 30, Lyndhurst, N.J.*
Arnold A. Lim, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Darya Lin, 32, Chicago, Ill.*
Wei Rong Lin, 31, Jersey City, N.J.*
Nickie L. Lindo, 31, New York, N.Y.
Thomas V. Linehan, 39, Montville, N.J.*
Robert Thomas Linnane, 33, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Alan Linton, 26, Jersey City, N.J.*
Diane Theresa Lipari, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Kenneth P. Lira, 28, Paterson, N.J.*
Francisco Alberto Liriano, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Lorraine Lisi, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Paul Lisson, 45, New York, N.Y.
Vincent Litto, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Ming-Hao Liu, 41, Livingston, N.J.*
Nancy Liz, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Harold Lizcano, 31, East Elmhurst, N.Y.*
Martin Lizzul, 31, New York, N.Y.*
George A. Llanes, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Elizabeth Claire Logler, 31, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Catherine Lisa Loguidice, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Jerome Robert Lohez, 30, Jersey City, N.J.*
Michael W. Lomax, 37, New York, N.Y.
Laura M. Longing, 35, Pearl River, N.Y.*
Salvatore P. Lopes, 40, Franklin Square, N.Y.*
Daniel Lopez, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Luis Lopez, 38, New York, N.Y.
Manuel L. Lopez, 54, Jersey City, N.J.*
George Lopez, 40, Stroudsburg, Pa.*
Joseph Lostrangio, 48, Langhorne, Pa.*
Chet Louie, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Stuart Seid Louis, 43, East Brunswick, N.J.*
Joseph Lovero, 60, Jersey City, N.J.*
Michael W. Lowe, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Garry Lozier, 47, Darien, Conn.*
John Peter Lozowsky, 45, New York, N.Y.
Charles Peter Lucania, 34, East Atlantic Beach, N.Y.*
Edward (Ted) H. Luckett, 40, Fair Haven, N.J.*
Mark G. Ludvigsen, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Lee Charles Ludwig, 49, New York, N.Y.
Sean Thomas Lugano, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Daniel Lugo, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Marie Lukas, 32, New York, N.Y.*
William Lum, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Michael P. Lunden, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Lunder, 34, Wall, N.J.*
Anthony Luparello, 62, New York, N.Y.*
Gary Lutnick, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Linda Luzzicone, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Alexander Lygin, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Farrell Peter Lynch, 39, Centerport, N.Y.*
James Francis Lynch, 47, Woodbridge, N.J.
Louise A. Lynch, 58, Amityville, N.Y.*
Michael Lynch, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Michael F. Lynch, 33, New Hyde Park, N.Y.*
Michael Francis Lynch, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Dennis Lynch, 30, Bedford Hills, N.Y.*
Robert H. Lynch, 44, Cranford, N.J.*
Sean Patrick Lynch, 36, Morristown, N.J.*
Sean Lynch, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Michael J. Lyons, 32, Hawthorne, N.Y.*
Patrick Lyons, 34, South Setauket, N.Y.*
Monica Lyons, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Francis Mace, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Jan Maciejewski, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Catherine Fairfax MacRae, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Richard B. Madden, 35, Westfield, N.J.*
Simon Maddison, 40, Florham Park, N.J.*
Noell Maerz, 29, Long Beach, N.Y.*
Jeannieann Maffeo, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Maffeo, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Jay Robert Magazine, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Wilson Magee, 51, Wantagh, N.Y.*
Brian Magee, 52, Floral Park, N.Y.
Joseph Maggitti, 47, Abingdon, Md.*
Ronald E. Magnuson, 57, Park Ridge, N.J.*
Daniel L. Maher, 50, Hamilton, N.J.*
Thomas Anthony Mahon, 37, East Norwich, N.Y.*
William Mahoney, 38, Bohemia, N.Y.*
Joseph Maio, 32, Roslyn Harbor, N.Y.*
Takashi Makimoto, 49, New York, N.Y.
Abdu Malahi, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Debora Maldonado, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Myrna T. Maldonado-Agosto, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Alfred R. Maler, 39, Convent Station, N.J.*
Gregory James Malone, 42, Hoboken, N.J.*
Edward Francis (Teddy) Maloney, 32, Darien, Conn.
Joseph E. Maloney, 46, Farmingville, N.Y.*
Gene E. Maloy, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Christian Maltby, 37, Chatham, N.J.*
Francisco Miguel (Frank) Mancini, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Mangano, 53, Jackson, N.J.*
Sara Elizabeth Manley, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Debra M. Mannetta, 31, Islip, N.Y.*
Terence J. Manning, 36, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Marion Victoria (vickie) Manning, 27, Rochdale, N.Y.*
James Maounis, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Ross Marchbanks, 47, Nanuet, N.Y.*
Peter Edward Mardikian, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Edward Joseph Mardovich, 42, Lloyd Harbor, N.Y.*
Lt. Charles Joseph Margiotta, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Kenneth Joseph Marino, 40, Monroe, N.Y.*
Lester Vincent Marino, 57, Massapequa, N.Y.*
Vita Marino, 49, New York, N.Y.
Kevin D. Marlo, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Jose J. Marrero, 32, Old Bridge, N.J.*
John Marshall, 35, Congers, N.Y.*
James Martello, 41, Rumson, N.J.*
Michael A. Marti, 26, Glendale, N.Y.*
Lt. Peter Martin, 43, Miller Place, N.Y.*
William J. Martin, 35, Rockaway, N.J.*
Brian E. Martineau, 37, Edison, N.J.*
Betsy Martinez, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Edward J. Martinez, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Jose Angel Martinez, 49, Hauppauge, N.Y.*
Robert Gabriel Martinez, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Lizie Martinez-Calderon, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Paul Richard Martini, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph A. Mascali, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Bernard Mascarenhas, 54, Newmarket, Ontario, Canada*
Stephen F. Masi, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Nicholas G. Massa, 65, New York, N.Y.*
Patricia A. Massari, 25, Glendale, N.Y.*
Michael Massaroli, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Philip W. Mastrandrea, 42, Chatham, N.J.*
Rudolph Mastrocinque, 43, Kings Park, N.Y.*
Joseph Mathai, 49, Arlington, Mass.*
Charles William Mathers, 61, Sea Girt, N.J.*
William A. Mathesen, 40, Morristown, N.J.*
Marcello Matricciano, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Margaret Elaine Mattic, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Robert D. Mattson, 54, Green Pond, N.J.*
Walter Matuza, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Charles A. (Chuck) Mauro, 65, New York, N.Y.*
Charles J. Mauro, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Dorothy Mauro, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Nancy T. Mauro, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Tyrone May, 44, Rahway, N.J.*
Keithroy Maynard, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Robert J. Mayo, 46, Morganville, N.J.*
Kathy Nancy Mazza-Delosh, 46, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
Edward Mazzella, 62, Monroe, N.Y.*
Jennifer Mazzotta, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Kaaria Mbaya, 39, Edison, N.J.*
James J. McAlary, 42, Spring Lake Heights, N.J.*
Brian McAleese, 36, Baldwin, N.Y.*
Patricia A. McAneney, 50, Pomona, N.Y.*
Colin Richard McArthur, 52, Howell, N.J.*
John McAvoy, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Kenneth M. McBrayer, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Brendan McCabe, 40, Sayville, N.Y.*
Michael J. McCabe, 42, Rumson, N.J.*
Thomas McCann, 46, Manalapan, N.J.*
Justin McCarthy, 30, Port Washington, N.Y.*
Kevin M. McCarthy, 42, Fairfield, Conn.*
Michael Desmond McCarthy, 33, Huntington, N.Y.*
Robert Garvin McCarthy, 33, Stony Point, N.Y.*
Stanley McCaskill, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Katie Marie McCloskey, 25, Mount Vernon, N.Y.*
Tara McCloud-Gray, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Austin McCrann, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Tonyell McDay, 25, Colonia, N.J.*
Matthew T. McDermott, 34, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Joseph P. McDonald, 43, Livingston, N.J.
Brian G. McDonnell, 38, Wantagh, N.Y.*
Michael McDonnell, 34, Red Bank, N.J.*
John F. McDowell, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Eamon J. McEneaney, 46, New Canaan, Conn.*
John Thomas McErlean, 39, Larchmont, N.Y.*
Daniel F. McGinley, 40, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Mark Ryan McGinly, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. William E. McGinn, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas H. McGinnis, 41, Oakland, N.J.*
Michael Gregory McGinty, 42, Foxboro, Mass.*
Ann McGovern, 68, East Meadow, N.Y.*
Scott Martin McGovern, 35, Wyckoff, N.J.*
William J. McGovern, 49, Smithtown, N.Y.*
Stacey S. McGowan, 38, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Francis Noel McGuinn, 48, Rye, N.Y.*
Patrick J. McGuire, 40, Madison, N.J.
Thomas M. McHale, 33, Huntington, N.Y.*
Keith McHeffey, 31, Monmouth Beach, N.J.*
Denis J. McHugh, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis P. McHugh, 34, Sparkill, N.Y.*
Michael Edward McHugh, 35, Tuckahoe, N.Y.*
Ann M. McHugh, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Robert G. McIlvaine, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Donald James McIntyre, 38, New City, N.Y.*
Stephanie McKenna, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Barry J. McKeon, 47, Yorktown Heights, N.Y.*
Evelyn C. McKinnedy, 60, New York, N.Y.
Darryl Leron McKinney, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Robert C. McLaughlin, 29, Westchester, N.Y.*
George Patrick McLaughlin, 36, Hoboken, N.J.*
Gavin McMahon, 35, Bayonne, N.J.*
Robert Dismas McMahon, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Edmund M. McNally, 41, Fair Haven, N.J.*
Daniel McNeal, 29, Towson, Md.
Walter Arthur McNeil, 53, Stroudsburg, Pa.*
Sean Peter McNulty, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Christine Sheila McNulty, 42, Peterborough, England
Robert William McPadden, 30, Pearl River, N.Y.*
Terence A. McShane, 37, West Islip, N.Y.*
Timothy Patrick McSweeney, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Martin E. McWilliams, 35, Kings Park, N.Y.*
Rocco A. Medaglia, 49, Melville, N.Y.*
Abigail Cales Medina, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Ana Iris Medina, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Deborah Medwig, 46, Dedham, Mass.
William J. Meehan, 49, Darien, Conn.*
Damian Meehan, 32, Glen Rock, N.J.*
Alok Kumar Mehta, 23, Hempstead, N.Y.*
Raymond Meisenheimer, 46, West Babylon, N.Y.*
Manuel Emilio Mejia, 54, New York, N.Y.
Eskedar Melaku, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Antonio Melendez, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Mary Melendez, 44, Stroudsburg, Pa.*
Yelena Melnichenko, 28, Brooklyn, N.Y.*
Stuart Todd Meltzer, 32, Syosset, N.Y.*
Diarelia Jovannah Mena, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Mendez, 38, Floral Park, N.Y.*
Lizette Mendoza, 33, North Bergen, N.J.*
Shevonne Mentis, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Steve Mercado, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Wesley Mercer, 70, New York, N.Y.*
Ralph Joseph Mercurio, 47, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Alan H. Merdinger, 47, Allentown, Pa.*
George C. Merino, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Yamel Merino, 24, Yonkers, N.Y.
George Merkouris, 35, Levittown, N.Y.*
Deborah Merrick, 45
Raymond J. Metz, 37, Trumbull, Conn.*
Jill A. Metzler, 32, Franklin Square, N.Y.*
David Robert Meyer, 57, Glen Rock, N.J.*
Nurul Huq Miah, 35, New York, N.Y.*
William Edward Micciulli, 30, Matawan, N.J.*
Martin Paul Michelstein, 57, Morristown, N.J.
Luis Clodoaldo Revilla Mier, 54
Peter T. Milano, 43, Middletown, N.J.*
Gregory Milanowycz, 25, Cranford, N.J.*
Lukasz T. Milewski, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Craig James Miller, 29, Va.
Corey Peter Miller, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Douglas C. Miller, 34, Port Jervis, N.Y.*
Henry Miller, 52, Massapequa, N.Y.*
Michael Matthew Miller, 39, Englewood, N.J.*
Phillip D. Miller, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Robert C. Miller, 55, Hasbrouck Heights, N.J.
Robert Alan Miller, 46, Matawan, N.J.*
Joel Miller, 55, Baldwin, N.Y.*
Benjamin Millman, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Charles M. Mills, 61, Brentwood, N.Y.*
Ronald Keith Milstein, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Minara, 54, Carmel, N.Y.*
William G. Minardi, 46, Bedford, N.Y.*
Louis Joseph Minervino, 54, Middletown, N.J.*
Thomas Mingione, 34, West Islip, N.Y.*
Wilbert Miraille, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Domenick Mircovich, 40, Closter, N.J.*
Rajesh A. Mirpuri, 30, Englewood Cliffs, N.J.*
Joseph Mistrulli, 47, Wantagh, N.Y.*
Susan Miszkowicz, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Paul Thomas Mitchell, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Miuccio, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Frank V. Moccia, 57, Hauppauge, N.Y.*
Capt. Louis Joseph Modafferi, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Boyie Mohammed, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Dennis Mojica, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Manuel Mojica, 37, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Manuel Dejesus Molina, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Kleber Rolando Molina, 44, New York, N.Y.
Fernando Jimenez Molinar, 21, Oaxaca, Mexico
Carl Molinaro, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Justin J. Molisani, 42, Middletown Township, N.J.*
Brian Patrick Monaghan, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Franklin Monahan, 45, Roxbury, N.Y.*
John Gerard Monahan, 47, Wanamassa, N.J.*
Kristen Montanaro, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Craig D. Montano, 38, Glen Ridge, N.J.*
Michael Montesi, 39, Highland Mills, N.Y.*
Cheryl Ann Monyak, 43, Greenwich, Conn.*
Capt. Thomas Moody, 45, Stony Brook, N.Y.*
Sharon Moore, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Krishna Moorthy, 59, Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.*
Abner Morales, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Carlos Morales, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Paula Morales, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Luis Morales, 46, New York, N.Y.
John Moran, 43, Rockaway, N.Y.*
John Christopher Moran, 38, Haslemere, Surrey, England
Kathleen Moran, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Lindsay S. Morehouse, 24, New York, N.Y.*
George Morell, 47, Mount. Kisco, N.Y.
Steven P. Morello, 52, Bayonne, N.J.*
Vincent S. Morello, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Arturo Alva Moreno, 47, Mexico City, Mexico*
Yvette Nicole Moreno, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Dorothy Morgan, 47, Hempstead, N.Y.*
Richard Morgan, 66, Glen Rock, N.J.*
Nancy Morgenstern, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Sanae Mori, 27, Tokyo, Japan*
Blanca Morocho, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Leonel Morocho, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis G. Moroney, 39, Eastchester, N.Y.*
Lynne Irene Morris, 22, Monroe, N.Y.*
Seth A. Morris, 35, Kinnelon, N.J.*
Stephen Philip Morris, 31, Ormond Beach, Fla.
Christopher M. Morrison, 34, Charlestown, Mass.*
Ferdinand V. Morrone, 63, Lakewood, N.J.*
William David Moskal, 50, Brecksville, Ohio*
Manuel Da Mota, 43, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Marco Motroni, 57, Fort Lee, N.J.*
Iouri A. Mouchinski, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Jude J. Moussa, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Peter C. Moutos, 44, Chatham, N.J.*
Damion Mowatt, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Mozzillo, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen V. Mulderry, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Muldowney, 40, Babylon, N.Y.*
Michael D. Mullan, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis Michael Mulligan, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Peter James Mulligan, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Joseph Mullin, 27, Hoboken, N.J.*
James Donald Munhall, 45, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Nancy Muniz, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Carlos Mario Munoz, 43*
Francisco Munoz, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Theresa (Terry) Munson, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Robert M. Murach, 45, Montclair, N.J.*
Cesar Augusto Murillo, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Marc A. Murolo, 28, Maywood, N.J.*
Robert Eddie Murphy, 56, New York, N.Y.
Brian Joseph Murphy, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher W. Murphy, 35, Easton, Md.*
Edward C. Murphy, 42, Clifton, N.J.*
James F. Murphy, 30, Garden City, N.Y.*
James Thomas Murphy, 35, Middletown, N.J.*
Kevin James Murphy, 40, Northport, N.Y.*
Patrick Sean Murphy, 36, Millburn, N.J.*
Lt. Raymond E. Murphy, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Charles Murphy, 38, New York, N.Y.*
John Joseph Murray, 32, Hoboken, N.J.*
John Joseph Murray, 52, Colts Neck, N.J.
Susan D. Murray, 54, Summit, N.J.*
Valerie Victoria Murray, 65, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Todd Myhre, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Robert B. Nagel, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Takuya Nakamura, 30, Tuckahoe, N.Y.
Alexander J.R. Napier, 38, Morris Township, N.J.*
Frank Joseph Naples, 29, Cliffside Park, N.J.*
John Napolitano, 33, Ronkonkoma, N.Y.*
Catherine A. Nardella, 40, Bloomfield, N.J.*
Mario Nardone, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Manika Narula, 22, Kings Park, N.Y.*
Narender Nath, 33, Colonia, N.J.
Karen S. Navarro, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph M. Navas, 44, Paramus, N.J.*
Francis J. Nazario, 28, Jersey City, N.J.*
Glenroy Neblett, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Marcus R. Neblett, 31, Roslyn Heights, N.Y.*
Jerome O. Nedd, 39, New York, N.Y.
Laurence Nedell, 51, Lindenhurst, N.Y.*
Luke G. Nee, 44, Stony Point, N.Y.*
Pete Negron, 34, Bergenfield, N.J.*
Ann Nicole Nelson, 30, New York, N.Y.*
David William Nelson, 50, New York, N.Y.*
James Nelson, 40, Clark, N.J.*
Michele Ann Nelson, 27, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Peter Allen Nelson, 42, Huntington Station, N.Y.*
Oscar Nesbitt, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Gerard Terence Nevins, 46, Campbell Hall, N.Y.*
Christopher Newton-Carter, 51, Middletown, N.J.*
Kapinga Ngalula, 58, McKinney, Texas
Nancy Yuen Ngo, 36, Harrington Park, N.J.*
Jody Tepedino Nichilo, 39, New York, N.Y.
Martin Niederer, 23, Hoboken, N.J.*
Alfonse J. Niedermeyer, 40, Manasquan, N.J.*
Frank John Niestadt, 55, Ronkonkoma, N.Y.*
Gloria Nieves, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Juan Nieves, 56, New York, N.Y.*
Troy Edward Nilsen, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Paul R. Nimbley, 42, Middletown, N.J.*
John Ballantine Niven, 44, Oyster Bay, N.Y.*
Katherine (Katie) McGarry Noack, 30, Hoboken, N.J.*
Curtis Terrence Noel, 22, Poughkeepsie, N.Y.*
Daniel R. Nolan, 44, Hopatcong, N.J.*
Robert Walter Noonan, 36, Norwalk, Conn.*
Daniela R. Notaro, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Brian Novotny, 33, Hoboken, N.J.*
Soichi Numata, 45, Irvington, N.Y.*
Brian Felix Nunez, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Jose R. Nunez, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Jeffrey Nussbaum, 37, Oceanside, N.Y.*
James A. Oakley, 52, Cortlandt Manor, N.Y.*
Dennis O'Berg, 28, Babylon, N.Y.*
James P. O'Brien, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Scott J. O'Brien, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Timothy Michael O'Brien, 40, Brookville, N.Y.*
Michael O'Brien, 42, Cedar Knolls, N.J.*
Captain Daniel O'Callaghan, 42, Smithtown, N.Y.*
Richard J. O'Connor, 49, Poughkeepsie, N.Y.*
Dennis J. O'Connor, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Diana J. O'Connor, 38, Eastchester, N.Y.*
Keith K. O'Connor, 28, Hoboken, N.J.*
Amy O'Doherty, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Marni Pont O'Doherty, 31, Armonk, N.Y.*
Douglas Oelschlager, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Takashi Ogawa, 37, Tokyo, Japan
Albert Ogletree, 49, New York, N.Y.
Philip Paul Ognibene, 39, New York, N.Y.*
James Andrew O'Grady, 32, Harrington Park, N.J.*
Joseph J. Ogren, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Thomas O'Hagan, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Samuel Oitice, 45, Peekskill, N.Y.*
Patrick O'Keefe, 44, Oakdale, N.Y.*
Capt. William O'Keefe, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Gerald Michael Olcott, 55, New Hyde Park, N.Y.*
Gerald O'Leary, 34, Stony Point, N.Y.*
Christine Anne Olender, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Elsy Carolina Osorio Oliva, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Linda Mary Oliva, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Edward K. Oliver, 31, Jackson, N.J.*
Leah E. Oliver, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Eric T. Olsen, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Jeffrey James Olsen, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Maureen L. Olson, 50, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Steven John Olson, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Matthew Timothy O'Mahony, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Toshihiro Onda, 39, New York, N.Y.
Seamus L. Oneal, 52, New York, N.Y.*
John P. O'Neill, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Sean Gordon Corbett O'Neill, 34, Rye, N.Y.*
Peter J. O'Neill, 21, Amityville, N.Y.*
Michael C. Opperman, 45, Selden, N.Y.*
Christopher Orgielewicz, 35, Larchmont, N.Y.*
Margaret Orloske, 50, Windsor, Conn.*
Virginia A. Ormiston, 42, New York, N.Y.
Kevin O'Rourke, 44, Hewlett, N.Y.*
Juan Romero Orozco, Acatlan de Osorio, Puebla, Mexico
Ronald Orsini, 59, Hillsdale, N.J.*
Peter K. Ortale, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Emilio (Peter) Ortiz, 38, New York, N.Y.
David Ortiz, 37, Nanuet, N.Y.*
Paul Ortiz, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Sonia Ortiz, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Alexander Ortiz, 36, Ridgewood, N.Y.*
Pablo Ortiz, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Masaru Ose, 36, Fort Lee, N.J.
Robert W. O'Shea, 47, Wall, N.J.*
Patrick J. O'Shea, 45, Farmingdale, N.Y.*
James Robert Ostrowski, 37, Garden City, N.Y.
Timothy O'Sullivan, 68, Albrightsville, Pa.*
Jason Douglas Oswald, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Otten, 42, East Islip, N.Y.*
Isidro Ottenwalder, 35, New York, N.Y.
Michael Chung Ou, 53, New York, N.Y.
Todd Joseph Ouida, 25, River Edge, N.J.*
Jesus Ovalles, 60, New York, N.Y.
Peter J. Owens, 42, Williston Park, N.Y.*
Adianes Oyola, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Angel M. Pabon, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Israel Pabon, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Roland Pacheco, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Benjamin Packer, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Deepa K. Pakkala, 31, Stewartsville, N.J.*
Jeffrey Matthew Palazzo, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Anthony Palazzo, 44, Armonk, N.Y.*
Richard (Rico) Palazzolo, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Orio Joseph Palmer, 45, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Frank A. Palombo, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Alan N. Palumbo, 42, New York, N.Y.
Christopher M. Panatier, 36, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Dominique Pandolfo, 27, Hoboken, N.J.*
Paul Pansini, 34, New York, N.Y.*
John M. Paolillo, 51, Glen Head, N.Y.*
Edward J. Papa, 47, Oyster Bay, N.Y.*
Salvatore Papasso, 34, New York, N.Y.*
James N. Pappageorge, 29, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Vinod K. Parakat, 34, Sayreville, N.J.*
Vijayashanker Paramsothy, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Nitin Ramesh Parandkar, 28, Waltham, Mass.*
Hardai (Casey) Parbhu, 42, New York, N.Y.*
James Wendell Parham, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Debra (Debbie) Paris, 48, New York, N.Y.*
George Paris, 33, New York, N.Y.
Gye-Hyong Park, 28, New York, N.Y.
Philip L. Parker, 53, Skillman, N.J.*
Michael A. Parkes, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Emmett Parks, 47, Middletown, N.J.*
Hasmukhrai Chuckulal Parmar, 48, Warren, N.J.*
Robert Parro, 35, Levittown, N.Y.*
Diane Marie Moore Parsons, 58, Malta, N.Y.*
Leobardo Lopez Pascual, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Michael J. Pascuma, 50, Massapequa Park, N.Y.
Jerrold H. Paskins, 56, Anaheim Hills, Calif.*
Horace Robert Passananti, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Suzanne H. Passaro, 38, East Brunswick, N.J.*
Victor Antonio Martinez Pastrana, 38, Tlachichuca, Puebla, Mexico
Manish K. Patel, 29, Edison, N.J.*
Avnish Ramanbhai Patel, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Dipti Patel, 38, New Hyde Park, N.Y.*
Steven B. Paterson, 40, Ridgewood, N.J.*
James Matthew Patrick, 30, Norwalk, Conn.*
Manuel Patrocino, 34*
Bernard E. Patterson, 46, Upper Brookville, N.Y.*
Cira Marie Patti, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Edward Pattison, 40, New York, N.Y.*
James R. Paul, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Sharon Cristina Millan Paz, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Patrice Paz, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Victor Paz-Gutierrez, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Stacey L. Peak, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Allen Pearlman, 18, New York, N.Y.*
Durrell Pearsall, 34, Hempstead, N.Y.*
Thomas E. Pedicini, 30, Hicksville, N.Y.*
Todd D. Pelino, 34, Fair Haven, N.J.*
Michel Adrian Pelletier, 36, Greenwich, Conn.*
Anthony Peluso, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Angel Ramon Pena, 45, River Vale, N.J.*
Richard Al Penny, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Salvatore F. Pepe, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Carl Allen Peralta, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Robert David Peraza, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Jon A. Perconti, 32, Brick, N.J.*
Alejo Perez, 66, Union City, N.J.*
Angel Perez, 43, Jersey City, N.J.*
Angela Susan Perez, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Ivan Perez, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Nancy E. Perez, 36, Secaucus, N.J.*
Anthony Perez, 33, Locust Valley, N.Y.*
Joseph John Perroncino, 33, Smithtown, N.Y.*
Edward J. Perrotta, 43, Mount Sinai, N.Y.*
Lt. Glenn C. Perry, 41, Monroe, N.Y.*
Emelda Perry, 52, Elmont, N.Y.
John William Perry, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Franklin Allan Pershep, 59, New York, N.Y.*
Daniel Pesce, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Michael J. Pescherine, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Davin Peterson, 25, New York, N.Y.*
William Russel Peterson, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Mark Petrocelli, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Philip S. Petti, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Glen Kerrin Pettit, 30, Oakdale, N.Y.*
Dominick Pezzulo, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Kaleen E. Pezzuti, 28, Fair Haven, N.J.*
Lt. Kevin Pfeifer, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Tu-Anh Pham, 42, Princeton, N.J.*
Lt. Kenneth John Phelan, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Michael V. San Phillip, 55, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Eugenia Piantieri, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Ludwig John Picarro, 44, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Matthew Picerno, 44, Holmdel, N.J.*
Joseph O. Pick, 40, Hoboken, N.J.*
Christopher Pickford, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis J. Pierce, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph A. Della Pietra, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Bernard T. Pietronico, 39, Matawan, N.J.*
Nicholas P. Pietrunti, 38, Belford, N.J.*
Theodoros Pigis, 60, New York, N.Y.
Susan Elizabeth Ancona Pinto, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Piskadlo, 48, North Arlington, N.J.*
Christopher Todd Pitman, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Josh Michael Piver, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Plumitallo, 45, Manalapan, N.J.*
John M. Pocher, 36, Middletown, N.J.*
William Howard Pohlmann, 56, Ardsley, N.Y.*
Laurence M. Polatsch, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas H. Polhemus, 39, Morris Plains, N.J.*
Steve Pollicino, 48, Plainview, N.Y.*
Susan M. Pollio, 45, Long Beach Township, N.J.*
Joshua Poptean, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Giovanna Porras, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Anthony Portillo, 48, New York, N.Y.*
James Edward Potorti, 52, Princeton, N.J.*
Daphne Pouletsos, 47, Westwood, N.J.*
Richard Poulos, 55, Levittown, N.Y.*
Stephen E. Poulos, 45, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Brandon Jerome Powell, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Shawn Edward Powell, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Tony Pratt, 43, New York, N.Y.
Gregory M. Preziose, 34, Holmdel, N.J.*
Wanda Ivelisse Prince, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Vincent Princiotta, 39, Orangeburg, N.Y.*
Kevin Prior, 28, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Everett Martin (Marty) Proctor, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Carrie B. Progen, 25, New York, N.Y.*
David Lee Pruim, 53, Upper Montclair, N.J.
Richard Prunty, 57, Sayville, N.Y.*
John F. Puckett, 47, Glen Cove, N.Y.*
Robert D. Pugliese, 47, East Fishkill, N.Y.*
Edward F. Pullis, 34, Hazlet, N.J.*
Patricia Ann Puma, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Hemanth Kumar Puttur, 26, White Plains, N.Y.*
Edward R. Pykon, 33, Princeton, N.J.*
Christopher Quackenbush, 44, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Lars Peter Qualben, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Lincoln Quappe, 38, Sayville, N.Y.*
Beth Ann Quigley, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Michael Quilty, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Ricardo Quinn, 40, New York, N.Y.*
James Francis Quinn, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Carol Rabalais, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Peter A. Racaniello, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Leonard Ragaglia, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Eugene J. Raggio, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Laura Marie Ragonese-Snik, 41, Bangor, Pa.*
Michael Ragusa, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Peter F. Raimondi, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Harry A. Raines, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Ehtesham U. Raja, 28, Clifton, N.J.*
Valsa Raju, 39, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Edward Rall, 44, Holbrook, N.Y.*
Lukas (Luke) Rambousek, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Julio Fernandez Ramirez, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Maria Isabel Ramirez, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Harry Ramos, 41, Newark, N.J.*
Vishnoo Ramsaroop, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Lorenzo Ramzey, 48, East Northport, N.Y.*
A. Todd Rancke, 42, Summit, N.J.*
Adam David Rand, 30, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Jonathan C. Randall, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Srinivasa Shreyas Ranganath, 26, Hackensack, N.J.*
Anne Rose T. Ransom, 45, Edgewater, N.J.*
Faina Rapoport, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Arthur Rasmussen, 42, Hinsdale, Ill.*
Amenia Rasool, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Roger Mark Rasweiler, 53, Flemington, N.J.*
David Alan James Rathkey, 47, Mountain Lakes, N.J.*
William Ralph Raub, 38, Saddle River, N.J.*
Gerard Rauzi, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Alexey Razuvaev, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Gregory Reda, 33, New Hyde Park, N.Y.*
Sarah Prothero Redheffer, 35, London, England*
Michele Reed, 26, Ringoes, N.J.*
Judith A. Reese, 56, Kearny, N.J.
Donald J. Regan, 47, Wallkill, N.Y.*
Lt. Robert M. Regan, 48, Floral Park, N.Y.*
Thomas M. Regan, 43, Cranford, N.J.*
Christian Michael Otto Regenhard, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Howard Reich, 59, New York, N.Y.*
Gregg Reidy, 26, Holmdel, N.J.*
Kevin O. Reilly, 28, New York, N.Y.*
James Brian Reilly, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Timothy E. Reilly, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Reina, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Barnes Reinig, 48, Bernardsville, N.J.*
Frank B. Reisman, 41, Princeton, N.J.*
Joshua Scott Reiss, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Karen Renda, 52, New York, N.Y.*
John Armand Reo, 28, Larchmont, N.Y.*
Richard Rescorla, 62, Morristown, N.J.*
John Thomas Resta, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Sylvia San Pio Resta, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Eduvigis (Eddie) Reyes, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Bruce A. Reynolds, 41, Columbia, N.J.*
John Frederick Rhodes, 57, Howell, N.J.*
Francis S. Riccardelli, 40, Westwood, N.J.*
Rudolph N. Riccio, 50, New York, N.Y.
AnnMarie (Davi) Riccoboni, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Eileen Mary Rice, 57, New York, N.Y.
David Rice, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Kenneth F. Rice, 34, Hicksville, N.Y.*
Lt. Vernon Allan Richard, 53, Nanuet, N.Y.*
Claude D. Richards, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Gregory Richards, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Richards, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Venesha O. Richards, 26, North Brunswick, N.J.*
James C. Riches, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Alan Jay Richman, 44, New York, N.Y.*
John M. Rigo, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Theresa (Ginger) Risco, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Rose Mary Riso, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Moises N. Rivas, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Rivelli, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Isaias Rivera, 51, Perth Amboy, N.J.*
Linda Rivera, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Juan William Rivera, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Carmen A. Rivera, 33, Westtown, N.Y.*
David E. Rivers, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph R. Riverso, 34, White Plains, N.Y.*
Paul Rizza, 34, Park Ridge, N.J.*
John Frank Rizzo, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen Louis Roach, 36, Verona, N.J.*
Joseph Roberto, 37, Midland Park, N.J.*
Leo A. Roberts, 44, Wayne, N.J.*
Michael Roberts, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Edward Roberts, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Donald Walter Robertson, 35, Rumson, N.J.*
Catherina Robinson, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Jeffrey Robinson, 38, Monmouth Junction, N.J.*
Michell Lee Robotham, 32, Kearny, N.J.*
Donald Robson, 52, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Antonio Augusto Tome Rocha, 34, East Hanover, N.J.*
Raymond J. Rocha, 29, Malden, Mass.*
Laura Rockefeller, 41, New York, N.Y.*
John M. Rodak, 39, Mantua, N.J.*
Antonio Jose Carrusca Rodrigues, 35, Port Washington, N.Y.*
Anthony Rodriguez, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Carmen Milagros Rodriguez, 46, Freehold, N.J.*
Marsha A. Rodriguez, 41, West Paterson, N.J.
Richard Rodriguez, 31, Cliffwood, N.J.*
Gregory E. Rodriguez, 31, White Plains, N.Y.
David B. Rodriguez-Vargas, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Matthew Rogan, 37, West Islip, N.Y.*
Karlie Barbara Rogers, 25, London, England*
Scott Rohner, 22, Hoboken, N.J.*
Keith Roma, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph M. Romagnolo, 37, Coram, N.Y.*
Elvin Santiago Romero, 34, Matawan, N.J.*
Efrain Franco Romero, 57, Hazleton, Pa.*
James A. Romito, 51, Westwood, N.J.*
Sean Rooney, 50, Stamford, Conn.*
Eric Thomas Ropiteau, 24, New York, N.Y.
Aida Rosario, 42, Jersey City, N.J.*
Angela Rosario, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Fitzroy St. Rose, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Mark H. Rosen, 45, West Islip, N.Y.*
Linda Rosenbaum, 41, Little Falls, N.J.
Brooke David Rosenbaum, 31, Franklin Square, N.Y.*
Sheryl Lynn Rosenbaum, 33, Warren, N.J.*
Lloyd D. Rosenberg, 31, Morganville, N.J.*
Mark Louis Rosenberg, 26, Teaneck, N.J.*
Andrew I. Rosenblum, 45, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Joshua M. Rosenblum, 28, Hoboken, N.J.*
Joshua A. Rosenthal, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Richard David Rosenthal, 50, Fair Lawn, N.J.*
Daniel Rossetti, 32, Bloomfield, N.J.*
Norman Rossinow, 39, Cedar Grove, N.J.*
Nicholas P. Rossomando, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Craig Rothberg, 39, Greenwich, Conn.*
Donna Marie Rothenberg, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Nick Rowe, 29, Hoboken, N.J.*
Timothy A. Roy, 36, Massapequa Park, N.Y.*
Paul G. Ruback, 50, Newburgh, N.Y.*
Ronald J. Ruben, 36, Hoboken, N.J.*
Joanne Rubino, 45, New York, N.Y.*
David Michael Ruddle, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Bart Joseph Ruggiere, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Susan Ann Ruggiero, 30, Plainview, N.Y.*
Adam K. Ruhalter, 40, Plainview, N.Y.*
Gilbert Ruiz, 57, New York, N.Y.*
Stephen P. Russell, 40, Rockaway Beach, N.Y.*
Steven Harris Russin, 32, Mendham, N.J.*
Lt. Michael Thomas Russo, 44, Nesconset, N.Y.*
Wayne Alan Russo, 37, Union, N.J.*
John J. Ryan, 45, West Windsor, N.J.*
Edward Ryan, 42, Scarsdale, N.Y.
Jonathan Stephan Ryan, 32, Bayville, N.Y.*
Matthew Lancelot Ryan, 54, Seaford, N.Y.*
Kristin A. Irvine Ryan, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Tatiana Ryjova, 36, South Salem, N.Y.
Christina Sunga Ryook, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Thierry Saada, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Jason E. Sabbag, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas E. Sabella, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Scott Saber, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Sacerdote, 48, Freehold, N.J.*
Mohammad Ali Sadeque, 62, New York, N.Y.
Francis J. Sadocha, 41, Huntington, N.Y.*
Jude Elias Safi, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Brock Joel Safronoff, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Edward Saiya, 49, New York, N.Y.*
John Patrick Salamone, 37, North Caldwell, N.J.*
Hernando R. Salas, 71, New York, N.Y.
Juan Salas, 35, New York, N.Y.
Esmerlin Salcedo, 36, New York, N.Y.
John Salvatore Salerno, 31, Westfield, N.J.*
Richard L. Salinardi, 32, Hoboken, N.J.*
Wayne John Saloman, 43, Seaford, N.Y.*
Nolbert Salomon, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Catherine Patricia Salter, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Frank Salvaterra, 41, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Paul R. Salvio, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Samuel R. Salvo, 59, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Carlos Samaniego, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Rena Sam-Dinnoo, 28, New York, N.Y.*
James Kenneth Samuel, 29, Hoboken, N.J.*
Hugo Sanay-Perafiel, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Alva Jeffries Sanchez, 41, Hempstead, N.Y.*
Jacquelyn P. Sanchez, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Erick Sanchez, 43, New York, N.Y.
Eric Sand, 36, Westchester, N.Y.*
Stacey Leigh Sanders, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Herman Sandler, 57, New York, N.Y.*
James Sands, 39, Bricktown, N.J.*
Ayleen J. Santiago, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Kirsten Santiago, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Maria Theresa Santillan, 27, Morris Plains, N.J.*
Susan G. Santo, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Santora, 23, New York, N.Y.*
John Santore, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Mario L. Santoro, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Rafael Humberto Santos, 42, New York, N.Y.
Rufino Conrado F. (Roy) Santos, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Kalyan K. Sarkar, 53, Westwood, N.J.*
Chapelle Sarker, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Paul F. Sarle, 38, Babylon, N.Y.*
Deepika Kumar Sattaluri, 33, Edison, N.J.*
Gregory Thomas Saucedo, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Susan Sauer, 48, Chicago, Ill.*
Anthony Savas, 72, New York, N.Y.*
Vladimir Savinkin, 21, New York, N.Y.*
John Sbarbaro, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Robert L. Scandole, 36, Pelham Manor, N.Y.*
Michelle Scarpitta, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Dennis Scauso, 46, Dix Hills, N.Y.*
John A. Schardt, 34, New York, N.Y.*
John G. Scharf, 29, Manorville, N.Y.*
Fred Claude Scheffold, 57, Piermont, N.Y.*
Angela Susan Scheinberg, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Scott M. Schertzer, 28, Edison, N.J.*
Sean Schielke, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Francis Schlag, 41, Franklin Lakes, N.J.*
Jon S. Schlissel, 51, Jersey City, N.J.*
Karen Helene Schmidt, 42, Bellmore, N.Y.
Ian Schneider, 45, Short Hills, N.J.*
Thomas G. Schoales, 27, Stony Point, N.Y.*
Marisa Di Nardo Schorpp, 38, White Plains, N.Y.*
Frank G. Schott, 39, Massapequa Park, N.Y.*
Gerard P. Schrang, 45, Holbrook, N.Y.*
Jeffrey Schreier, 48, New York, N.Y.*
John T. Schroeder, 31, Hoboken, N.J.*
Susan Lee Kennedy Schuler, 55, Allentown, N.J.*
Edward W. Schunk, 54, Baldwin, N.Y.*
Mark E. Schurmeier, 44, McLean, Va.*
Clarin Shellie Schwartz, 51, New York, N.Y.*
John Schwartz, 49, Goshen, Conn.*
Mark Schwartz, 50, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Adriane Victoria Scibetta, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Raphael Scorca, 61, Beachwood, N.J.*
Randolph Scott, 48, Stamford, Conn.*
Christopher J. Scudder, 34, Monsey, N.Y.*
Arthur Warren Scullin, 57, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Seaman, 41, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Margaret Seeliger, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Carlos Segarra, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Anthony Segarra, 52, New York, N.Y.
Jason Sekzer, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Matthew Carmen Sellitto, 23, Morristown, N.J.*
Howard Selwyn, 47, Hewlett, N.Y.*
Larry John Senko, 34, Yardley, Pa.*
Arturo Angelo Sereno, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Frankie Serrano, 23, Elizabeth, N.J.*
Alena Sesinova, 57, New York, N.Y.*
Adele Sessa, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Sita Nermalla Sewnarine, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Karen Lynn Seymour-Dietrich, 40, Millington, N.J.*
Davis (Deeg) Sezna, 22, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Joseph Sgroi, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Jayesh Shah, 38, Edgewater, N.J.*
Khalid M. Shahid, 25, Union, N.J.*
Mohammed Shajahan, 41, Spring Valley, N.Y.*
Gary Shamay, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Earl Richard Shanahan, 50, New York, N.Y.
Shiv Shankar, New York, N.Y.
Neil G. Shastri, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Kathryn Anne Shatzoff, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Barbara A. Shaw, 57, Morris Township, N.J.*
Jeffrey J. Shaw, 42, Levittown, N.Y.*
Robert J. Shay, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Daniel James Shea, 37, Pelham Manor, N.Y.
Joseph Patrick Shea, 47, Pelham, N.Y.
Linda Sheehan, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Hagay Shefi, 34, Tenafly, N.J.*
John Anthony Sherry, 34, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Atsushi Shiratori, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Shubert, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Mark Shulman, 47, Old Bridge, N.J.*
See-Wong Shum, 44, Westfield, N.J.*
Allan Shwartzstein, 37, Chappaqua, N.Y.*
Johanna Sigmund, 25, Wyndmoor, Pa.*
Dianne T. Signer, 32, New York, N.Y.
Gregory Sikorsky, 34, Spring Valley, N.Y.*
Stephen Gerard Siller, 34, West Brighton, N.Y.*
David Silver, 35, New Rochelle, N.Y.*
Craig A. Silverstein, 41, Wyckoff, N.J.*
Nasima H. Simjee, 38, New York, N.Y.
Bruce Edward Simmons, 41, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Arthur Simon, 57, Thiells, N.Y.*
Kenneth Alan Simon, 34, Secaucus, N.J.
Michael John Simon, 40, Harrington Park, N.J.*
Paul Joseph Simon, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Marianne Simone, 62, New York, N.Y.*
Barry Simowitz, 64, New York, N.Y.*
Jeff Simpson, 38, Lake Ridge, Va.*
Roshan R. (Sean) Singh, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Khamladai K. (Khami) Singh, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas E. Sinton, 44, Croton-on-hudson, N.Y.*
Peter A. Siracuse, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Muriel F. Siskopoulos, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph M. Sisolak, 35, New York, N.Y.*
John P. Skala, 31, Clifton, N.J.*
Francis J. Skidmore, 58, Mendham, N.J.*
Toyena Corliss Skinner, 27, Kingston, N.J.*
Paul A. Skrzypek, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Christopher Paul Slattery, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Vincent R. Slavin, 41, Belle Harbor, N.Y.*
Robert Sliwak, 42, Wantagh, N.Y.*
Paul K. Sloan, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Stanley S. Smagala, 36, Holbrook, N.Y.*
Wendy L. Small, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Catherine T. Smith, 44, West Haverstraw, N.Y.*
Daniel Laurence Smith, 47, Northport, N.Y.*
George Eric Smith, 38, West Chester, Pa.*
James G. Smith, 43, Garden City, N.Y.
Joyce Smith, 55, New York, N.Y.
Karl Trumbull Smith, 44, Little Silver, N.J.*
Kevin Smith, 47, Mastic, N.Y.*
Leon Smith, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Moira Smith, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Rosemary A. Smith, 61, New York, N.Y.
Sandra Fajardo Smith, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Jeffrey Randall Smith, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Bonnie S. Smithwick, 54, Quogue, N.Y.
Rochelle Monique Snell, 24, Mount Vernon, N.Y.*
Leonard J. Snyder, 35, Cranford, N.J.*
Astrid Elizabeth Sohan, 32, Freehold, N.J.*
Sushil Solanki, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Ruben Solares, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Naomi Leah Solomon, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Daniel W. Song, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Michael C. Sorresse, 34, Morris Plains, N.J.*
Fabian Soto, 31, Harrison, N.J.*
Timothy P. Soulas, 35, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Gregory T. Spagnoletti, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Donald F. Spampinato, 39, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Thomas Sparacio, 35, New York, N.Y.
John Anthony Spataro, 32, Mineola, N.Y.*
Robert W. Spear, 30, Valley Cottage, N.Y.*
Maynard S. Spence, 42, Douglasville, Ga.*
George E. Spencer, 50, West Norwalk, Conn.*
Robert Andrew Spencer, 35, Red Bank, N.J.*
Mary Rubina Sperando, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Frank J. Spinelli, 44, Short Hills, N.J.*
William E. Spitz, 49, Oceanside, N.Y.*
Joseph P. Spor, 35, Yorktown Heights, N.Y.*
Klaus Johannes Sprockamp, 42, Muhltal, Germany*
Saranya Srinuan, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Michael F. Stabile, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Lawrence T. Stack, 58, Lake Ronkonkoma, N.Y.*
Capt. Timothy Stackpole, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Richard James Stadelberger, 55, Middletown, N.J.*
Eric A. Stahlman, 43, Holmdel Township, N.J.*
Gregory M. Stajk, 46, Long Beach, N.Y.*
Corina Stan, 31, Middle Village, N.Y.*
Alexandru Liviu Stan, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Mary D. Stanley, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Joyce Stanton
Patricia Stanton
Anthony M. Starita, 35, Westfield, N.J.*
Jeffrey Stark, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Derek James Statkevicus, 30, Norwalk, Conn.*
Craig William Staub, 30, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
William V. Steckman, 56, West Hempstead, N.Y.*
Eric Thomas Steen, 32, New York, N.Y.*
William R. Steiner, 56, New Hope, Pa.*
Alexander Robbins Steinman, 32, Hoboken, N.J.*
Andrew Stergiopoulos, 23, New York, N.Y.
Andrew Stern, 41, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Martha Jane Stevens, 55, New York, N.Y.
Richard H. Stewart, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Michael James Stewart, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Sanford M. Stoller, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Lonny J. Stone, 43, Bellmore, N.Y.*
Jimmy Nevill Storey, 58, Katy, Texas*
Timothy Stout, 42, Dobbs Ferry, N.Y.*
Thomas S. Strada, 41, Chatham, N.J.*
James J. Straine, 36, Oceanport, N.J.*
Edward W. Straub, 48, Morris Township, N.J.*
George Strauch, 53, Avon-by-the-Sea, N.J.*
Edward T. Strauss, 44, Edison, N.J.*
Steven R. Strauss, 51, Fresh Meadows, N.Y.*
Steven F. Strobert, 33, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Walwyn W. Stuart, 28, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Benjamin Suarez, 36, New York, N.Y.*
David S. Suarez, 24, Princeton, N.J.*
Ramon Suarez, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Yoichi Sugiyama, 34, Fort Lee, N.J.
William Christopher Sugra, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Daniel Suhr, 37, Nesconset, N.Y.*
David Marc Sullins, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Christopher P. Sullivan, 38, Massapequa, N.Y.*
Patrick Sullivan, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Sullivan, 38, Kearney, N.J.*
Hilario Soriano (Larry) Sumaya, 42, New York, N.Y.*
James Joseph Suozzo, 47, Hauppauge, N.Y.*
Colleen Supinski, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Sutcliffe, 39, Huntington, N.Y.*
Selina Sutter, 63, New York, N.Y.*
Claudia Suzette Sutton, 34, New York, N.Y.*
John F. Swaine, 36, Larchmont, N.Y.
Kristine M. Swearson, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Brian Edward Sweeney, 29, Merrick, N.Y.*
Kenneth J. Swensen, 40, Chatham, N.J.*
Thomas F. Swift, 30, Jersey City, N.J.*
Derek O. Sword, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Kevin T. Szocik, 27, Garden City, N.Y.
Gina Sztejnberg, 52, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Norbert P. Szurkowski, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Harry Taback, 56, New York, N.Y.*
Joann Tabeek, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Norma C. Taddei, 64, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Taddonio, 39, Huntington, N.Y.*
Keiji Takahashi, 42, Tenafly, N.J.*
Keiichiro Takahashi, 53, Port Washington, N.Y.*
Phyllis Gail Talbot, 53, New York, N.Y.*
Robert R. Talhami, 40, Shrewsbury, N.J.*
Sean Patrick Tallon, 26, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Paul Talty, 40, Wantagh, N.Y.*
Maurita Tam, 22, New York, N.Y.*
Rachel Tamares, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Hector Tamayo, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Andrew Tamuccio, 37, Pelham Manor, N.Y.*
Kenichiro Tanaka, 52, Rye Brook, N.Y.
Rhondelle Cherie Tankard, 31, Devonshire, Bermuda
Michael Anthony Tanner, 44, Secaucus, N.J.*
Dennis Gerard Taormina, 36, Montville, N.J.*
Kenneth Joseph Tarantino, 39, Bayonne, N.J.*
Allan Tarasiewicz, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Ronald Tartaro, 39, Bridgewater, N.J.
Darryl Taylor, 52, New York, N.Y.
Donnie Brooks Taylor, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Lorisa Ceylon Taylor, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Michael M. Taylor, 42, New York, N.Y.*
Paul A. Tegtmeier, 41, Hyde Park, N.Y.*
Yeshavant Moreshwar Tembe, 59, Piscataway, N.J.*
Anthony Tempesta, 38, Elizabeth, N.J.*
Dorothy Temple, 52, New York, N.Y.*
Stanley L. Temple, 77, New York, N.Y.
David Tengelin, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Brian J. Terrenzi, 29, Hicksville, N.Y.*
Lisa Marie Terry, 42, Rochester, Mich.*
Goumatie T. Thackurdeen, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Harshad Sham Thatte, 30, Norcross, Ga.*
Thomas F. Theurkauf, 44, Stamford, Conn.*
Lesley Anne Thomas, 40, Hoboken, N.J.
Brian T. Thompson, 49, Dix Hills, N.Y.*
Clive Thompson, 43, Summit, N.J.*
Glenn Thompson, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Perry Anthony Thompson, 36, Mount Laurel, N.J.*
Vanavah Alexi Thompson, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Capt. William Harry Thompson, 51, New York, N.Y.*
Nigel Bruce Thompson, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Eric Raymond Thorpe, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Nichola A. Thorpe, 22, New York, N.Y.*
Sal Tieri, 40, Shrewsbury, N.J.*
John Patrick Tierney, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Mary Ellen Tiesi, 38, Jersey City, N.J.*
William R. Tieste, 54, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
Kenneth F. Tietjen, 31, Matawan, N.J.*
Stephen Edward Tighe, 41, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Scott C. Timmes, 28, Ridgewood, N.Y.*
Michael E. Tinley, 56, Dallas, Texas*
Jennifer M. Tino, 29, Livingston, N.J.*
Robert Frank Tipaldi, 25, New York, N.Y.*
John J. Tipping, 33, Port Jefferson, N.Y.*
David Tirado, 26, New York, N.Y.
Hector Luis Tirado, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Michelle Titolo, 34, Copiague, N.Y.*
John J. Tobin, 47, Kenilworth, N.J.
Richard J. Todisco, 61, Wyckoff, N.J.*
Vladimir Tomasevic, 36, Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada*
Stephen K. Tompsett, 39, Garden City, N.Y.*
Thomas Tong, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Azucena de la Torre, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Doris Torres, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Luis Eduardo Torres, 31, New York, N.Y.*
Amy E. Toyen, 24, Newton, Mass.*
Christopher M. Traina, 25, Bricktown, N.J.*
Daniel Patrick Trant, 40, Northport, N.Y.*
Abdoul Karim Traore, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Glenn J. Travers, 53, Tenafly, N.J.*
Walter (Wally) P. Travers, 44, Upper Saddle River, N.J.*
Felicia Traylor-Bass, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Lisa L. Trerotola, 38, Hazlet, N.J.*
Karamo Trerra, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Trinidad, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Francis Joseph Trombino, 68, Clifton, N.J.*
Gregory J. Trost, 26, New York, N.Y.*
William Tselepis, 33, New Providence, N.J.*
Zhanetta Tsoy, 32, Jersey City, N.J.*
Michael Patrick Tucker, 40, Rumson, N.J.*
Lance Richard Tumulty, 32, Bridgewater, N.J.*
Ching Ping Tung, 44, New York, N.Y.
Simon James Turner, 39, London, England*
Donald Joseph Tuzio, 51, Goshen, N.Y.*
Robert T. Twomey, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Jennifer Tzemis, 26, New York, N.Y.*
John G. Ueltzhoeffer, 36, Roselle Park, N.J.*
Tyler V. Ugolyn, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Michael A. Uliano, 42, Aberdeen, N.J.*
Jonathan J. Uman, 33, Westport, Conn.*
Anil Shivhari Umarkar, 34, Hackensack, N.J.*
Allen V. Upton, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Diane Maria Urban, 50, Malverne, N.Y.*
John Damien Vaccacio, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Bradley H. Vadas, 37, Westport, Conn.*
William Valcarcel, 54, New York, N.Y.*
Mayra Valdes-Rodriguez, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Felix Antonio Vale, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Ivan Vale, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Santos Valentin, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Benito Valentin, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Manuel Del Valle, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Carlton Francis Valvo, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Edward Raymond Vanacore, 29, Jersey City, N.J.*
Jon C. Vandevander, 44, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Frederick T. Varacchi, 35, Greenwich, Conn.*
Gopalakrishnan Varadhan, 32, New York, N.Y.*
David Vargas, 46, New York, N.Y.*
Scott C. Vasel, 32, Park Ridge, N.J.*
Santos Vasquez, 55, New York, N.Y.
Azael Ismael Vasquez, 21, New York, N.Y.*
Arcangel Vazquez, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Peter Anthony Vega, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Sankara S. Velamuri, 63, Avenel, N.J.*
Jorge Velazquez, 47, Passaic, N.J.*
Lawrence Veling, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Anthony M. Ventura, 41, Middletown, N.J.
David Vera, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Loretta A, Vero, 51, Nanuet, N.Y.
Christopher Vialonga, 30, Demarest, N.J.*
Matthew Gilbert Vianna, 23, Manhasset, N.Y.*
Robert A. Vicario, 40, Weehawken, N.J.*
Celeste Torres Victoria, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Joanna Vidal, 26, Yonkers, N.Y.*
John T. Vigiano, 36, West Islip, N.Y.*
Joseph Vincent Vigiano, 34, Medford, N.Y.*
Frank J. Vignola, 44, Merrick, N.Y.*
Joseph B. Vilardo, 44, Stanhope, N.J.
Sergio Villanueva, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Chantal Vincelli, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Melissa Vincent, 28, Hoboken, N.J.*
Francine A. Virgilio, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Lawrence Virgilio, 38*
Joseph G. Visciano, 22, New York, N.Y.*
Joshua S. Vitale, 28, Great Neck, N.Y.*
Maria Percoco Vola, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Lynette D. Vosges, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Garo H. Voskerijian, 43, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Alfred Vukosa, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Gregory Wachtler, 25, Ramsey, N.J.*
Gabriela Waisman, 33, New York, N.Y.*
Wendy Alice Rosario Wakeford, 40, Freehold, N.J.*
Courtney Wainsworth Walcott, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Victor Wald, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Benjamin Walker, 41, Suffern, N.Y.
Glen J. Wall, 38, Rumson, N.J.*
Mitchel Scott Wallace, 34, Mineola, N.Y.*
Lt. Robert F. Wallace, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Roy Michael Wallace, 42, Wyckoff, N.J.*
Peter G. Wallace, 66, Lincoln Park, N.J.*
Jean Marie Wallendorf, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Matthew Blake Wallens, 31, New York, N.Y.*
John Wallice, 43, Huntington, N.Y.*
Barbara P. Walsh, 59, New York, N.Y.*
James Walsh, 37, Scotch Plains, N.J.*
Jeffrey Patrick Walz, 37, Tuckahoe, N.Y.*
Ching H. Wang, 59, New York, N.Y.
Weibin Wang, 41, Orangeburg, N.Y.*
Lt. Michael Warchola, 51, Middle Village, N.Y.*
Stephen Gordon Ward, 33, Gorham, Maine*
James A. Waring, 49, New York, N.Y.*
Brian G. Warner, 32, Morganville, N.J.*
Derrick Washington, 33, Calverton, N.Y.*
Charles Waters, 44, New York, N.Y.*
James Thomas (Muddy) Waters, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Capt. Patrick J. Waters, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Kenneth Watson, 39, Smithtown, N.Y.*
Michael H. Waye, 38, Morganville, N.J.*
Walter E. Weaver, 30, Centereach, N.Y.*
Todd C. Weaver, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Nathaniel Webb, 56, Jersey City, N.J.*
Dinah Webster, 50, Port Washington, N.Y.*
Joanne Flora Weil, 39, New York, N.Y.*
Michael Weinberg, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Weinberg, 41, New City, N.Y.*
Scott Jeffrey Weingard, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Steven Weinstein, 50, New York, N.Y.
Simon Weiser, 65, New York, N.Y.*
David T. Weiss, 50, New York, N.Y.
David M. Weiss, 41, Maybrook, N.Y.*
Vincent Michael Wells, 22, Redbridge, England*
Timothy Matthew Welty, 34, Yonkers, N.Y.*
Christian Hans Rudolf Wemmers, 43, San Francisco, Calif.*
Ssu-Hui (Vanessa) Wen, 23, New York, N.Y.*
Oleh D. Wengerchuk, 56, Centerport, N.Y.*
Peter M. West, 54, Pottersville, N.J.*
Whitfield West, 41, New York, N.Y.
Meredith Lynn Whalen, 23, Hoboken, N.J.*
Eugene Whelan, 31, Rockaway Beach, N.Y.*
John S. White, 48, New York, N.Y.*
Edward James White, 30, New York, N.Y.*
James Patrick White, 34, Hoboken, N.J.*
Kenneth W. White, 50, New York, N.Y.*
Leonard Anthony White, 57, New York, N.Y.*
Malissa White, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Wayne White, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Adam S. White, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Leanne Marie Whiteside, 31, New York, N.Y.
Mark Whitford, 31, Salisbury Mills, N.Y.*
Michael T. Wholey, 34, Westwood, N.J.*
Mary Lenz Wieman, 43, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Jeffrey David Wiener, 33, New York, N.Y.*
William J. Wik, 44, Crestwood, N.Y.*
Alison Marie Wildman, 30, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. Glenn Wilkinson, 46, Bayport, N.Y.*
John C. Willett, 29, Jersey City, N.J.*
Brian Patrick Williams, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Crossley Williams, 28, Uniondale, N.Y.*
David Williams, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Deborah Lynn Williams, 35, Hoboken, N.J.*
Kevin Michael Williams, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Louis Calvin Williams, 53, Mandeville, La.
Louie Anthony Williams, 44, New York, N.Y.*
Lt. John Williamson, 46, Warwick, N.Y.*
Donna Wilson, 48, Williston Park, N.Y.*
William E. Wilson, 58, New York, N.Y.*
Cynthia Wilson, 52, New York, N.Y.*
David H. Winton, 29, New York, N.Y.*
Glenn J. Winuk, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Thomas Francis Wise, 43, New York, N.Y.*
Alan L. Wisniewski, 47, Howell, N.J.*
Frank T. Wisniewski, 54, Basking Ridge, N.J.*
David Wiswall, 54, North Massapequa, N.Y.*
Sigrid Charlotte Wiswe, 41, New York, N.Y.*
Michael R. Wittenstein, 34, Hoboken, N.J.*
Christopher W. Wodenshek, 35, Ridgewood, N.J.*
Martin P. Wohlforth, 47, Greenwich, Conn.*
Katherine S. Wolf, 40, New York, N.Y.*
Jenny Seu Kueng Low Wong, 25, New York, N.Y.*
Jennifer Y. Wong, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Siu Cheung Wong, 34, Jersey City, N.J.*
Yin Ping (Steven) Wong, 34, New York, N.Y.*
Yuk Ping Wong, 47, New York, N.Y.*
Brent James Woodall, 31, Oradell, N.J.*
James J. Woods, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Patrick Woods, 36, New York, N.Y.*
Richard Herron Woodwell, 44, Ho-Ho-Kus, N.J.
Capt. David Terence Wooley, 54, Nanuet, N.Y.*
John Bentley Works, 36, Darien, Conn.
Martin Michael Wortley, 29, Park Ridge, N.J.*
Rodney James Wotton, 36, Middletown, N.J.*
William Wren, 61, Lynbrook, N.Y.*
John Wright, 33, Rockville Centre, N.Y.*
Neil R. Wright, 30, Asbury, N.J.*
Sandra Wright, 57, Langhorne, Pa.*
Jupiter Yambem, 41, Beacon, N.Y.*
Suresh Yanamadala, 33, Plainsboro, N.J.*
Matthew David Yarnell, 26, Jersey City, N.J.*
Myrna Yaskulka, 59, New York, N.Y.*
Shakila Yasmin, 26, New York, N.Y.*
Olabisi L. Yee, 38, New York, N.Y.*
Edward P. York, 45, Wilton, Conn.
Kevin Patrick York, 41, Princeton, N.J.*
Raymond York, 45, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Suzanne Youmans, 60, New York, N.Y.*
Jacqueline (Jakki) Young, 37, New York, N.Y.*
Barrington L. Young, 35, New York, N.Y.*
Elkin Yuen, 32, New York, N.Y.*
Joseph Zaccoli, 39, Valley Stream, N.Y.*
Adel Agayby Zakhary, 50, North Arlington, N.J.*
Arkady Zaltsman, 45, New York, N.Y.*
Edwin J. Zambrana, 24, New York, N.Y.*
Robert Alan Zampieri, 30, Saddle River, N.J.*
Mark Zangrilli, 36, Pompton Plains, N.J.*
Ira Zaslow, 55, North Woodmere, N.Y.*
Kenneth Albert Zelman, 37, Succasunna, N.J.*
Abraham J. Zelmanowitz, 55, New York, N.Y.*
Martin Morales Zempoaltecatl, 22, New York, N.Y.*
Zhe (Zack) Zeng, 28, New York, N.Y.*
Marc Scott Zeplin, 33, Harrison, N.Y.*
Jie Yao Justin Zhao, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Ivelin Ziminski, 40, Tarrytown, N.Y.
Michael Joseph Zinzi, 37, Newfoundland, N.J.*
Charles A. Zion, 54, Greenwich, Conn.*
Julie Lynne Zipper, 44, Paramus, N.J.
Salvatore J. Zisa, 45, Hawthorne, N.J.*
Prokopios Paul Zois, 46, Lynbrook, N.Y.*
Joseph J. Zuccala, 54, Croton-on-Hudson, N.Y.*
Andrew Steven Zucker, 27, New York, N.Y.*
Igor Zukelman, 29, New York, N.Y.*

[svrwthr]

Tell your conspiracies to those surviving members of the above 3K names of the people that died at the WTC

[svrwthr]

Then after you tell them, Go talk to the families of the 157 that died in both planes

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11,
from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center with 92 people on board.


CREW
Barbara Arestegui, 38, Marstons Mills, Massachusetts*
Jeffrey Collman, 41, Novato, Calif.*
Sara Low, 28, Batesville, Arkansas*
Karen A. Martin, 40, Danvers, Mass.*
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, Portsmouth, New Hampshire*
Kathleen Nicosia, 54, Winthrop, Mass.*
John Ogonowski, 52, Dracut, Massachusetts*
Betty Ong, 45, Andover, Massachusetts*
Jean Roger, 24, Longmeadow, Massachusetts*
Dianne Snyder, 42, Westport, Massachusetts*
Madeline Sweeney, 35, Acton, Massachusetts*




PASSENGERS
Anna Williams Allison, 48, Stoneham, Massachusetts*
David Angell, 54, Pasadena, California*
Lynn Angell, 45, Pasadena, California*
Seima Aoyama, 48, Culver City, Calif.
Myra Aronson, 52, Charlestown, Massachusetts*
Christine Barbuto, 32, Brookline, Massachusetts*
Carolyn Beug, 48, Los Angeles, California*
Kelly Ann Booms, 24, Brookline, Mass.*
Carol Bouchard, 43, Warwick, Rhode Island*
Neilie Anne Heffernan Casey, 32, Wellesley, Massachusetts*
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, Abington, Massachusetts*
Tara Creamer, 30, Worcester, Massachusetts*
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, Wilmot, New Hampshire*
Patrick Currivan, 52, Winchester, Mass.*
Brian Dale, 43, Warren, New Jersey*
David DiMeglio, 22, Wakefield, Mass.*
Donald Americo DiTullio, 49, Peabody, Mass.*
Albert Dominguez, 66, Sydney, Australia*
Paige Farley-Hackel, 46, Newton, Mass.*
Alex Filipov, 70, Concord, Massachusetts*
Carol Flyzik, 40, Plaistow, N.H.*
Paul Friedman, 45, Belmont, Massachusetts*
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, Brookline, Massachusetts*
Peter Gay, 54, Tewksbury, Massachusetts*
Linda George, 27, Westboro, Massachusetts*
Edmund Glazer, 41, Los Angeles, California*
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, Needham, Massachusetts*
Andrew Peter Charles Curry Green, 34, Santa Monica, Calif.*
Peter Hashem, 40, Tewksbury, Massachusetts*
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts*
Edward (Ted) R. Hennessy, 35, Belmont, Mass.*
John A. Hofer, 45, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Cora Hidalgo Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts*
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts,
Waleed Iskandar, 34, London, England*
John Charles Jenkins, 45, Cambridge, Mass.*
Charles Edward Jones, 48, Bedford, Mass.*
Robin Kaplan, 33, Westboro, Massachusetts*
Barbara Keating, 72, Palm Springs, Calif.*
David P. Kovalcin, 42, Hudson, New Hampshire*
Judy Larocque, 50, Framingham, Mass.*
Natalie Janis Lasden, 46, Peabody, Mass.*
Daniel John Lee, 34, Van Nuys, Calif.*
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, Charlestown, Mass.*
Susan A. MacKay, 44, Westford, Massachusetts*
Christopher D. Mello, 25, Boston, Mass.*
Jeff Mladenik, 43, Hinsdale, Illinois*
Antonio Jesus Montoya Valdes, 46, East Boston, Mass.*
Carlos Alberto Montoya, 36, Bellmont, Mass.
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, Framingham, Massachusetts*
Mildred Rose Naiman, 81, Andover, Mass.*
Laurie Ann Neira, 48, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island*
Jacqueline J. Norton, 61, Lubec, Maine*
Robert Grant Norton, 85, Lubec, Maine*
Jane M. Orth, 49, Haverhill, Mass.*
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California*
Berinthia Berenson Perkins, 53, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts*
David E. Retik, 33, Needham, Mass.*
Philip M. Rosenzweig, 47, Acton, Mass.*
Richard Ross, 58, Newton, Massachusetts*
Jessica Sachs, 22, Billerica, Massachusetts*
Rahma Salie, 28, Boston, Mass.*
Heather Lee Smith, 30, Boston, Mass.*
Douglas J. Stone, 54, Dover, N.H*
Xavier Suarez, 41, Chino Hills, Calif.
Michael Theodoridis, 32, Boston, Mass.*
James Trentini, 65, Everett, Massachusetts*
Mary Trentini, 67, Everett, Massachusetts*
Pendyala Vamsikrishna, 30, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Mary Wahlstrom, 78, Kaysville, Utah*
Kenneth Waldie, 46, Methuen, Massachusetts*
John Wenckus, 46, Torrance, Calif.*
Candace Lee Williams, 20, Danbury, Conn.*
Christopher Zarba, 47, Hopkinton, Massachusetts*

Flight 175 was a United Airlines flight that departed from Logan International Airport in Boston, Massachusetts, and had a destination of Los Angeles, California.

The plane took off at 8:14 a.m. and crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center at 9:03 a.m.

Flight Crew:

Robert Fangman
Michael Horrocks
Amy N. Jarret
Amy King
Kathryn L. LaBorie
Alfred Marchand
Victor Saracini
Michael C. Tarrou
Alicia Nicole Titus

Passengers:

Alona Avraham
Garnet Edward Bailey
Mark Bavis
Graham Andrew Berkeley
Touri Bolourchi
Klaus Bothe
Daniel R. Brandhorst
David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst
John Brett Cahill
Christoffer Carstanjen
John J. Corcoran
Dorothy Alma DeAraujo
Ana Gloria Pocasangre de Barrera
Lisa Frost
Ronald Gamboa
Lynn Catherine Goodchild
Peter Morgan Goodrich
Douglas A. Gowell
Francis E. Grogan
Carl Max Hammond
Peter Hanson
Sue Kim Hanson
Christine Lee Hanson
Gerald F. Hardacre
Eric Samadikan Hartono
James Hayden
Herbert W. Homer
Robert Adrien Jalbert
Ralph Francis Kershaw
Heinrich Kimmig
Brian Kinney
Robert George LeBlanc
Maclovio Lopez
Marianne MacFarlane
Louis Neil Mariani
Juliana Valentine McCourt
Ruth Magdaline McCourt
Wolfgang Peter Menzel
Shawn Nassaney
Marie Pappalardo
Patrick Quigley
Frederick Charles Rimmele
James Roux
Jesus Sanchez
Mary Kathleen Shearer
Robert Michael Shearer
Jane Louise Simpkin
Brian Sweeney
Timothy Ward
William Weems

[Dave's PA Rental]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Actually, the Pentagon is made of thick concrete. It was designed in the 1930s with air attack in mind...

And if I am not mistaken, I remember reports from the summer of '01 that they had just finished reinforcing the outer walls of the Pentagon.

[Nickdfresh]

You are correct indeedio...

The architects of the Pentagon were told to anticipate the possibility of strategic bombing, which is why the building is built in hallway cells. To minimize and isolate blast damage.

What I also find intriguing regarding the conspiracy stuff, is it seems, that every plane strike not caught explicitly on camera was a 'cruise missile' or something...

[FORD]

Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
And if I am not mistaken, I remember reports from the summer of '01 that they had just finished reinforcing the outer walls of the Pentagon.

Actually, it was just one section of the Pentagon which was being renovated.

And access to this section while it was under construction was VERY restricted. And that's saying something, in a building full of security clearances.

Guess which section of the building that was, by the way.

One might almost think that they might have been preparing the thing for some special event............

[FORD]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh


What I also find intriguing regarding the conspiracy stuff, is it seems, that every plane strike not caught explicitly on camera was a 'cruise missile' or something...

That's not the issue......

1) There were enough cameras aimed at the target site for a decent film of the strike to exist, yet the BCE/Pentagon can't produce such a film. It would be so easy to simply release an unedited film of the plane slamming into the building, if indeed that's what happenned. But they can't do so. The excuse was that they needed to keep the footage under wraps while Zack Moussaui was on trial, but that was over months ago. Where's the tape, Chimpy??

2) The impact hole and the few mechanical parts found on the scene at the Pentagon are more compatible with a cruise missile or a much smaller plane such as the Raytheon Global Hawk. Oddly enough, many of the passengers listed on the manifest of "Flight 77" were Raytheon employees and DOD employees.

[Ellyllions]

I went to the Pentagon just shortly after the affected hallway was opened back up.

Very eerie and somber.

You could still see the scuff on the ground outside where the plane made it's first connection with the ground.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
Actually, it was just one section of the Pentagon which was being renovated.

And access to this section while it was under construction was VERY restricted. And that's saying something, in a building full of security clearances.

Guess which section of the building that was, by the way.

One might almost think that they might have been preparing the thing for some special event............

And what would they have done that would have 'prepped' it for being hit by an airliner, or cruise missile?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
That's not the issue......
...

It's absolutely THE ISSUE!

The same thing has been said about the first WTC strike...

That it was a cruise missile, and that a remote controlled (USAF version of) 737 (a KC-11?) only struck the second tower, when people, both in the media and with camcorders, had the cameras going...

[DrMaddVibe]

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/0305911-windows-lg.jpg

[DrMaddVibe]

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/PMX0305_911_001-lg.jpg

[DrMaddVibe]

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/0305911-pentagon-lg.jpg

[DrMaddVibe]

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/0305911-flight77-lg.jpg

[DrMaddVibe]

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/WTC7-Damage.jpg

[Nickdfresh]

An audio interview on the WTC collapse from that bastion of Neoconservatism --PBS??!! (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/cons-flash.html)

NOVA (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/)

[Dave's PA Rental]

So FORD...

You have no problem with believing that all the WTC's were secretly wired for demolition, with such precision and secrecy that no one who worked there every day fucking noticed...and despite the impact that two jetliners had on the buildings, all the charges and wiring remained perfectly intact...THEN for some reason they waited SEVEN HOURS before taking down WTC7 (again, with the perfectly wired charges remaining intact, despite the earth-shattering vibrations coming from the towers as they fell...)

And yet, the fact that some parking lot web-cam didnt manage to get a clear picture of a jetliner 1/10,000th of a second before it slammed into the Pentagon doing, what, 400 miles per hour, MUST mean that it was a missile or an unmanned drone, right?

I'm sure that there must be half a dozen other camera angles that we havent seen, but so fucking what! They tracked the airplane on radar, it got to D.C., then it dissapeared from the scope. People fucking died.

FORD, there are plenty of other evil people in this world besides your nemisi. People hate us. They want to inflict pain and suffering upon us. Now, maybe the origins of their hate were born from the policies of whichever party is controling Washington at the time (the Dems fuck things up just as much as the Republicans) but that is a different issue.

They didnt NEED to take out the WTC in order to go to war. Rove, Wolfie, Cheney and Rummy would have figured out someother way. It was a convenient excuse that was just thrown in their laps.

[Nickdfresh]

The 9/11 Slideshow Overview. (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/sund-flash.html)

And Cheritoff's niece had nothing to do with the findings...:)

[DrMaddVibe]

Charlie Sheen?

[spitfire ace]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/stevanroth/08-911pentatrauma6.jpg

[spitfire ace]

You may have also noticed the road and side rail in the top photo has been replaced in the bottom photo by a walkway. Now the question is why is there a need to clearly change these pictures?

[Ellyllions]

Dave's PA Rental brought up another good point.

Why is it so hard to believe that we can be attacked? Why is it so hard to believe that there are people in this world that can patiently plan and carry out an attack on us?

It comes across as arrogance.

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
So FORD...

You have no problem with believing that all the WTC's were secretly wired for demolition, with such precision and secrecy that no one who worked there every day fucking noticed...and despite the impact that two jetliners had on the buildings, all the charges and wiring remained perfectly intact...THEN for some reason they waited SEVEN HOURS before taking down WTC7 (again, with the perfectly wired charges remaining intact, despite the earth-shattering vibrations coming from the towers as they fell...)

And yet, the fact that some parking lot web-cam didnt manage to get a clear picture of a jetliner 1/10,000th of a second before it slammed into the Pentagon doing, what, 400 miles per hour, MUST mean that it was a missile or an unmanned drone, right?

I'm sure that there must be half a dozen other camera angles that we havent seen, but so fucking what! They tracked the airplane on radar, it got to D.C., then it dissapeared from the scope. People fucking died.

FORD, there are plenty of other evil people in this world besides your nemisi. People hate us. They want to inflict pain and suffering upon us. Now, maybe the origins of their hate were born from the policies of whichever party is controling Washington at the time (the Dems fuck things up just as much as the Republicans) but that is a different issue.

They didnt NEED to take out the WTC in order to go to war. Rove, Wolfie, Cheney and Rummy would have figured out someother way. It was a convenient excuse that was just thrown in their laps.

dude: you have no idea what you're talking about.

the "official story" that the government wants you to believe, that "terrorists" armed with "box cutters" could hijack 4 planes and fly them into buildings, collapsing 3 buildings, and crashing 1 plane in a field is just completely unbelievable. seriously, it's IMPOSSIBLE. get it through your skull, it CANNOT happen that way.


let me clue you in on what actually happened:

1)sometime in 1999-2000, the government secretly put explosive charges in 3 of the 7 WTC buildings. all of the government contractors installing the charges were sworn to secrecy.

2) on 9/11 the government hijacked 4 commercial airplanes and diverted 3 of them to a secret military base. there, they off-loaded the crews and passengers and then dismantled the planes completely. all of the personnel at the airbase were sworn to secrecy.

3) in place of the commercial planes, the government had 2 remote-controlled military cargo planes painted to look like commerical planes take off and crash into the WTC towers. all of the painters and the remote control pilots were sworn to secrecy.

4) a cruise missle was launched from a naval ship off the atlantic coast and it slammed into the pentagon. all of the sailors on the ship were sworn to secrecy.

5) the 4th hijacked commercial airplane was actually allowed to continue flying so it could then be shot down by 2 F-16s. but, the government would later cover that fact up and claim the "terrorists" crashed it. all of the air force personnel were sworn to secrecy.

6) the government detonated the charges in the WTC buildings, but later came up with a "story" that using "physics" burning fuel weakened steel support beams and caused building collapses, along with falling debris hitting WTC 7 and eventually destabilizing it. as this is not possible, the government got a bunch of "scientists" to agree to back the "official" collapse stories. all of these "scientists" and most of the "scientists" and "engineers" in the world were sworn to secrecy.

7) the crews and passengers of the 3 hijacked and then diverted commercial planes were then killed, partially because they would not all agree to be sworn to secrecy, but also partially so that some of their DNA could be spread around the "crash sites." all of the executioners were sworn to secrecy.

8) the remains of the crew and passengers were ground up into soylent green and fed to the "terrorists" housed at gitmo. all of the cooks were sworn to secrecy.


see: that's much more believable.

[BITEYOASS]

At first I wanted to believe that fat fuck alex jones. But then he started talking about live AIDS viruses being put in corn and to avoid all vaccines due to containing mercuty. Then about how the steel doesn't melt until it has reached over 3000F. As if the towers won't collapse until the steel reaches it's melting point. Perhaps he never conceived the notion that the beams in the towers might buckle due to expansion from high temperatures. The same thing happens to a lesser degree with railroad tracks.

The only credible theory I believe is that bush knew this attack was gonna happen well in advance and purposely did nothing about it. All in order to justify helping some cronies make money. Doesn't require much planning at all.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
FORD, you didnt even know that you could bake a friggin pie in a kitchen wood stove, so please stop trying to sound like you understand the physics of what went down on 9/11.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

Will someone please tell me what post this refers to.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by svrwthr
Then after you tell them, Go talk to the families of the 157 that died in both planes

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11,
from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center with 92 people on board.


CREW
Barbara Arestegui, 38, Marstons Mills, Massachusetts*
Jeffrey Collman, 41, Novato, Calif.*
Sara Low, 28, Batesville, Arkansas*
Karen A. Martin, 40, Danvers, Mass.*
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, Portsmouth, New Hampshire*
Kathleen Nicosia, 54, Winthrop, Mass.*
John Ogonowski, 52, Dracut, Massachusetts*
Betty Ong, 45, Andover, Massachusetts*
Jean Roger, 24, Longmeadow, Massachusetts*
Dianne Snyder, 42, Westport, Massachusetts*
Madeline Sweeney, 35, Acton, Massachusetts*




PASSENGERS
Anna Williams Allison, 48, Stoneham, Massachusetts*
David Angell, 54, Pasadena, California*
Lynn Angell, 45, Pasadena, California*
Seima Aoyama, 48, Culver City, Calif.
Myra Aronson, 52, Charlestown, Massachusetts*
Christine Barbuto, 32, Brookline, Massachusetts*
Carolyn Beug, 48, Los Angeles, California*
Kelly Ann Booms, 24, Brookline, Mass.*
Carol Bouchard, 43, Warwick, Rhode Island*
Neilie Anne Heffernan Casey, 32, Wellesley, Massachusetts*
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, Abington, Massachusetts*
Tara Creamer, 30, Worcester, Massachusetts*
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, Wilmot, New Hampshire*
Patrick Currivan, 52, Winchester, Mass.*
Brian Dale, 43, Warren, New Jersey*
David DiMeglio, 22, Wakefield, Mass.*
Donald Americo DiTullio, 49, Peabody, Mass.*
Albert Dominguez, 66, Sydney, Australia*
Paige Farley-Hackel, 46, Newton, Mass.*
Alex Filipov, 70, Concord, Massachusetts*
Carol Flyzik, 40, Plaistow, N.H.*
Paul Friedman, 45, Belmont, Massachusetts*
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, Brookline, Massachusetts*
Peter Gay, 54, Tewksbury, Massachusetts*
Linda George, 27, Westboro, Massachusetts*
Edmund Glazer, 41, Los Angeles, California*
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, Needham, Massachusetts*
Andrew Peter Charles Curry Green, 34, Santa Monica, Calif.*
Peter Hashem, 40, Tewksbury, Massachusetts*
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts*
Edward (Ted) R. Hennessy, 35, Belmont, Mass.*
John A. Hofer, 45, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Cora Hidalgo Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts*
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts,
Waleed Iskandar, 34, London, England*
John Charles Jenkins, 45, Cambridge, Mass.*
Charles Edward Jones, 48, Bedford, Mass.*
Robin Kaplan, 33, Westboro, Massachusetts*
Barbara Keating, 72, Palm Springs, Calif.*
David P. Kovalcin, 42, Hudson, New Hampshire*
Judy Larocque, 50, Framingham, Mass.*
Natalie Janis Lasden, 46, Peabody, Mass.*
Daniel John Lee, 34, Van Nuys, Calif.*
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, Charlestown, Mass.*
Susan A. MacKay, 44, Westford, Massachusetts*
Christopher D. Mello, 25, Boston, Mass.*
Jeff Mladenik, 43, Hinsdale, Illinois*
Antonio Jesus Montoya Valdes, 46, East Boston, Mass.*
Carlos Alberto Montoya, 36, Bellmont, Mass.
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, Framingham, Massachusetts*
Mildred Rose Naiman, 81, Andover, Mass.*
Laurie Ann Neira, 48, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island*
Jacqueline J. Norton, 61, Lubec, Maine*
Robert Grant Norton, 85, Lubec, Maine*
Jane M. Orth, 49, Haverhill, Mass.*
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California*
Berinthia Berenson Perkins, 53, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts*
David E. Retik, 33, Needham, Mass.*
Philip M. Rosenzweig, 47, Acton, Mass.*
Richard Ross, 58, Newton, Massachusetts*
Jessica Sachs, 22, Billerica, Massachusetts*
Rahma Salie, 28, Boston, Mass.*
Heather Lee Smith, 30, Boston, Mass.*
Douglas J. Stone, 54, Dover, N.H*
Xavier Suarez, 41, Chino Hills, Calif.
Michael Theodoridis, 32, Boston, Mass.*
James Trentini, 65, Everett, Massachusetts*
Mary Trentini, 67, Everett, Massachusetts*
Pendyala Vamsikrishna, 30, Los Angeles, Calif.*
Mary Wahlstrom, 78, Kaysville, Utah*
Kenneth Waldie, 46, Methuen, Massachusetts*
John Wenckus, 46, Torrance, Calif.*
Candace Lee Williams, 20, Danbury, Conn.*
Christopher Zarba, 47, Hopkinton, Massachusetts*

Flight 175 was a United Airlines flight that departed from Logan International Airport in Boston, Massachusetts, and had a destination of Los Angeles, California.

The plane took off at 8:14 a.m. and crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center at 9:03 a.m.

Flight Crew:

Robert Fangman
Michael Horrocks
Amy N. Jarret
Amy King
Kathryn L. LaBorie
Alfred Marchand
Victor Saracini
Michael C. Tarrou
Alicia Nicole Titus

Passengers:

Alona Avraham
Garnet Edward Bailey
Mark Bavis
Graham Andrew Berkeley
Touri Bolourchi
Klaus Bothe
Daniel R. Brandhorst
David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst
John Brett Cahill
Christoffer Carstanjen
John J. Corcoran
Dorothy Alma DeAraujo
Ana Gloria Pocasangre de Barrera
Lisa Frost
Ronald Gamboa
Lynn Catherine Goodchild
Peter Morgan Goodrich
Douglas A. Gowell
Francis E. Grogan
Carl Max Hammond
Peter Hanson
Sue Kim Hanson
Christine Lee Hanson
Gerald F. Hardacre
Eric Samadikan Hartono
James Hayden
Herbert W. Homer
Robert Adrien Jalbert
Ralph Francis Kershaw
Heinrich Kimmig
Brian Kinney
Robert George LeBlanc
Maclovio Lopez
Marianne MacFarlane
Louis Neil Mariani
Juliana Valentine McCourt
Ruth Magdaline McCourt
Wolfgang Peter Menzel
Shawn Nassaney
Marie Pappalardo
Patrick Quigley
Frederick Charles Rimmele
James Roux
Jesus Sanchez
Mary Kathleen Shearer
Robert Michael Shearer
Jane Louise Simpkin
Brian Sweeney
Timothy Ward
William Weems

If I'm not mistaken, FORD believes these people are all BCE associates who are connected to various BCE industries, so the fact that they are "missing" is all a lie.

Alternatively, FORD believes that the BCE is hiding all these people somewhere in an isolated region of the country. Yucca Mountain perhaps? Area 51? Only FORD knows.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
dude: you have no idea what you're talking about.

the "official story" that the government wants you to believe, that "terrorists" armed with "box cutters" could hijack 4 planes and fly them into buildings, collapsing 3 buildings, and crashing 1 plane in a field is just completely unbelievable. seriously, it's IMPOSSIBLE. get it through your skull, it CANNOT happen that way.


let me clue you in on what actually happened:

1)sometime in 1999-2000, the government secretly put explosive charges in 3 of the 7 WTC buildings. all of the government contractors installing the charges were sworn to secrecy.

2) on 9/11 the government hijacked 4 commercial airplanes and diverted 3 of them to a secret military base. there, they off-loaded the crews and passengers and then dismantled the planes completely. all of the personnel at the airbase were sworn to secrecy.

3) in place of the commercial planes, the government had 2 remote-controlled military cargo planes painted to look like commerical planes take off and crash into the WTC towers. all of the painters and the remote control pilots were sworn to secrecy.

4) a cruise missle was launched from a naval ship off the atlantic coast and it slammed into the pentagon. all of the sailors on the ship were sworn to secrecy.

5) the 4th hijacked commercial airplane was actually allowed to continue flying so it could then be shot down by 2 F-16s. but, the government would later cover that fact up and claim the "terrorists" crashed it. all of the air force personnel were sworn to secrecy.

6) the government detonated the charges in the WTC buildings, but later came up with a "story" that using "physics" burning fuel weakened steel support beams and caused building collapses, along with falling debris hitting WTC 7 and eventually destabilizing it. as this is not possible, the government got a bunch of "scientists" to agree to back the "official" collapse stories. all of these "scientists" and most of the "scientists" and "engineers" in the world were sworn to secrecy.

7) the crews and passengers of the 3 hijacked and then diverted commercial planes were then killed, partially because they would not all agree to be sworn to secrecy, but also partially so that some of their DNA could be spread around the "crash sites." all of the executioners were sworn to secrecy.

8) the remains of the crew and passengers were ground up into soylent green and fed to the "terrorists" housed at gitmo. all of the cooks were sworn to secrecy.


see: that's much more believable.

:lol:

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by FORD
Sesh, you claim to value science over superstition, yet you ignore the facts.

Jet fuel, under the "best" of circumstances, does not come anywhere near the temperature required to weaken or melt steel. If it did, it would melt airplane engines, and then devour the aluminum body of the plane.

And in the case of WTC tower 2 in particular, most of the jet fuel burned outside the building in the massive fireball that we all saw repeated endlessly on TV. So that building had the lower of the two temperatures at the point of impact, yet it fell first.

Tell me, scientifically, how the fuck that makes sense?

George Bush has successfully fooled millions with his lies. But the laws of science aren't going to bend for his monkey ass.


Fucking hell.:)

Actually you kind of hit the nail on the head.

The conspiracy theorists that aren't in it for the money or fame are sheep. They hate the idea that 'shit happens' they need the idea that there was some big conspiracy theory because that gives them something to cling to.

Like you in the same way you cling to irrational religion superstitions.

Ignoring the million other reasons that the conspiracy theories are just plain BS you and internationally renowned structural engineer Rosie O’Donnell are still going back at the stupid completely debunked temperature argument.


I don't want to spend much more of my life on this so I'm popping back to your fave site Popular Mechanics. You say that all the stuff there is lies because someone that worked there at one point was a second cousin of someone that met Bush once or some such insanity.

But that said I've seen half a dozen non stupid 9-11 documentaries and read all sorts of articles by architects and engineers from all over the world with NO possible alterior motive so fuck it. I tell you what, why not send a CV to become a professor of structural engineering citing your expertise as being a stupid daytime TV host, or even a 20 year old kid who dropped out of college and made a collage of shit from internet sites about 9-11 with a reassuring female voice and see if you get an interview.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/911myths/4213805.html



Recently, Rosie O’Donnell, a co-host of ABC talk show The View, made comments on the show that renewed controversy over the collapse of World Trade Center 7.

While saying she didn’t know what to believe about the U.S. government’s involvement in the attacks of Sept. 11, she said, “I do believe that it’s the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics that World Trade Center tower 7—building 7, which collapsed in on itself—it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved. World Trade Center 7. World Trade [Center] 1 and 2 got hit by planes—7, miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible.”

She continued: “To say that we don’t know that it imploded, that it was an implosion and a demolition, is beyond ignorant. Look at the films, get a physics expert here [on the show] from Yale, from Harvard, pick the school—[the collapse] defies reason.” (Watch the clip here)

For those interested in what physics and demolition experts have said regarding WTC 7’s collapse, as detailed in our book Debunking 9/11 Myths, Popular Mechanics offers these notes:

1. Initial reports from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) misunderstood the amount of damage the 47-floor WTC7 sustained from the debris of the falling North Tower—because in early photographs, WTC7 was obscured by smoke and debris.

Towers 1 and 7 were approximately 300 ft. apart, and pictures like the ones here and here offer a clear visual of how small that distance is for structures that large. After further studies, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) told Popular Mechanics that debris from the 110-floor North Tower hit WTC7 with the force of a volcanic eruption. Nearly a quarter of the building was carved away over the bottom 10 stories on its south face, and significant damage was visible up to the 18th floor (see p. 24 of this report, and the screengrab below of an image of WTC7's damaged south face).

http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/WTC7-Damage.jpg

The unusual design of WTC7 is also crucial to the discussion, in that key columns supported extreme loads—as much as 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor—as the building straddled an electrical substation. “What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors,” NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder told Popular Mechanics, “it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down.” The tower wasn’t hit by a plane, but it was severely wounded by the collapse of the North Tower. Which is when the fires started.

2. The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center weren’t knocked down by planes—they both stood for more than a half-hour after the impacts. But the crashes destroyed support columns and ignited infernos that ultimately weakened—not melted—the steel structures until the towers could no longer support their own weights (NIST offers a primer here). Ms. O’Donnell fundamentally misstates the case with her use of the word “melted”: Evidence currently points to WTC7 also collapsing because fires weakened its ravaged steel structure.

Tower 7 housed the city’s emergency command center, so there were a number of fuel tanks located throughout the building—including two 6000-gal. tanks in the basement that fed some generators in the building by pressurized lines. “Our working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time,” according to Sunder. Steel melts at about 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit—but it loses strength at temperatures as low as 400 F. When temperatures break 1000 degrees F, steel loses nearly 50 percent of its strength. It is unknown what temperatures were reached inside WTC7, but fires in the building raged for seven hours before the collapse.

3. Demolition experts tell Popular Mechanics that wiring a building the size of WTC7 for clandestine demolition would present insurmountable logistical challenges. That issue aside, there’s a clear-cut engineering explanation for why the building fell the way it did. Trusses on the fifth and seventh floors of the building were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another; with the south face heavily damaged, the other columns were likely overtaxed. In engineering terms, the “progressive collapse” began on the eastern side, when weakened columns failed from the damage and fire. The entire building fell in on itself as the slumping east side dragged down the west side in a diagonal pattern. Still, damage to the Verizon Building (see p. 21 of this report), directly west of WTC7, and to Fiterman Hall (see here) directly north, show that it was hardly an orderly collapse.

NIST is currently preparing its final report on the collapse of WTC7, which is expected to be released this spring. In order to address concerns of conspiracy theorists, the organization added “Hypothetical Blast Analysis” to its research, according to a December 2006 progress report. The report also points out that “NIST has found no evidence of a blast or controlled demolition.”



In short, stop being silly.

Cheers!

:gulp:

[frets5150]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Um Ford, no one's ever said the steel "melted." It was WEAKEND by the fires, which were intense...

And do you have links regarding the "pulled" admission and the Cheritoff relations?


http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

Silverstein, FDNY Decided to 'Pull WTC 7': An In-Depth Analysis

Paul Joseph Watson/Alex Jones

Alex Jones, host of The Alex Jones Show, which is aired on the Genesis Communications Radio Network, todayfeatured an in-depth discussion on the comments of Larry Silverstein, the controller of the destroyed WTC complex. In an unlikely coincidence, Alex was knocked off the air five times in the first ten minutes of the show whenever he mentioned this topic.

In a September 2002 PBS documentary called 'America Rebuilds,' Silverstein states, in reference to World Trade Center Building 7, "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/highrisefires.html

[frets5150]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You are correct indeedio...
What I also find intriguing regarding the conspiracy stuff, is it seems, that every plane strike not caught explicitly on camera was a 'cruise missile' or something...

Umm there were videos but were Taken by the FBI

Missing Pentagon
Unobstructed Citgo Videos

Photos show that the Citgo Station provided an excellent unobstructed view of the Pentagon crash site.

Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film."

http://www.rense.com/general63/unob.htm


:mad:

[Seshmeister]

Apart from everything else like where did the dead people go there were dozens of witnesses on the freeway who saw a plane.

Dumbest conspiracy theory ever...

[FORD]

It's not so "dumb" of a conspiracy theory when you compare it to what some within the government almost got away with as official policy in 1962. And may have gotten away with in 1964.......


Operation Northwoods

US PLANNED FAKE TERROR ATTACKS ON CITIZENS
TO CREATE SUPPORT FOR CUBAN WAR

From BODY OF SECRETS, James Bamford, Doubleday, 2001, p.82 and following.
Scanned and edited by NY Transfer News.
...In [Joint Chief's chair] Lemnitzer's view, the country would be far better off if the generals could take over. [JFK assassination legend has it some general presided over the fudgy JFK autopsy. --Mk]

For those military officers who were sitting on the fence, the Kennedy administration's botched Bay of Pigs invasion was the last straw. "The Bay of Pigs fiasco broke the dike," said one report at the time. "President Kennedy was pilloried by the super patriots as a 'no-win' chief . . . The Far Right became a fount of proposals born of frustration and put forward in the name of anti-Communism. . . Active-duty commanders played host to anti-Communist seminars on their bases and attended or addressed Right-wing meetings elsewhere."

Although no one in Congress could have known it at the time, Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs had quietly slipped over the edge.

According to secret and long-hidden documents obtained for Body of Secrets, the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. In the name of antiCommunism, they proposed launching a secret and bloody war of terrorism against their own country in order to trick the American public into supporting an ill-conceived war they intended to launch against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plan, which had the written approval of the Chairman and every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called for innocent people to be shot on American streets; for boats carrying refugees fleeing Cuba to be sunk on the high seas; for a wave of violent terrorism to be launched in Washington, D.C., Miami, and elsewhere. People would be framed for bombings they did not commit; planes would be hijacked. Using phony evidence, all of it would be blamed on Castro, thus giving Lemnitzer and his cabal the excuse, as well as the public and international backing, they needed to launch their war.

The idea may actually have originated with President Eisenhower in the last days of his administration. With the Cold War hotter than ever and the recent U-2 scandal fresh in the public's memory, the old general wanted to go out with a win. He wanted desperately to invade Cuba in the weeks leading up to Kennedy's inauguration; indeed, on January 3 he told Lemnitzer and other aides in his Cabinet Room that he would move against Castro before the inauguration if only the Cubans gave him a really good excuse. Then, with time growing short, Eisenhower floated an idea. If Castro failed to provide that excuse, perhaps, he said, the United States "could think of manufacturing something that would be generally acceptable." What he was suggesting was a pretext a bombing, an attack, an act of sabotage carried out secretly against the United States by the United States. Its purpose would be to justify the launching of a war. It was a dangerous suggestion by a desperate president.

Although no such war took place, the idea was not lost on General Lemnitzer But he and his colleagues were frustrated by Kennedy's failure to authorize their plan, and angry that Castro had not provided an excuse to invade.

The final straw may have come during a White House meeting on February 26, 1962. Concerned that General Lansdale's various covert action plans under Operation Mongoose were simply becoming more outrageous and going nowhere, Robert Kennedy told him to drop all anti-Castro efforts. Instead, Lansdale was ordered to concentrate for the next three months strictly on gathering intelligence about Cuba. It was a humiliating defeat for Lansdale, a man more accustomed to praise than to scorn.

As the Kennedy brothers appeared to suddenly "go soft" on Castro, Lemnitzer could see his opportunity to invade Cuba quickly slipping away. The attempts to provoke the Cuban public to revolt seemed dead and Castro, unfortunately, appeared to have no inclination to launch any attacks against Americans or their property Lemnitzer and the other Chiefs knew there was only one option left that would ensure their war. They would have to trick the American public and world opinion into hating Cuba so much that they would not only go along, but would insist that he and his generals launch their war against Castro. "World opinion, and the United Nations forum," said a secret JCS document, "should be favorably affected by developing the international image of the Cuban government as rash and irresponsible, and as an alarming and unpredictable threat to the peace of the Western Hemisphere."

Operation Northwoods called for a war in which many patriotic Americans and innocent Cubans would die senseless deaths, all to satisfy the egos of twisted generals back in Washington, safe in their taxpayer financed homes and limousines.

One idea seriously considered involved the launch of John Glenn, the first American to orbit the earth. On February 20,1962, Glenn was to lift off from Cape Canaveral, Florida, on his historic journey. The flight was to carry the banner of America's virtues of truth, freedom, and democracy into orbit high over the planet. But Lemnitzer and his Chiefs had a different idea. They proposed to Lansdale that, should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof that . . . the fault lies with the Communists et al Cuba [sic.]"

This would be accomplished, Lemnitzer continued, "by manufacturing various pieces of evidence which would prove electronic interference on the part of the Cubans." Thus, as NASA prepared to send the first American into space, the Joint Chiefs of Staff were preparing to use John Glenn's possible death as a pretext to launch a war.

Glenn lifted into history without mishap, leaving Lemnitzer and the Chiefs to begin devising new plots which they suggested be carried out "within the time frame of the next few months."

Among the actions recommended was "a series of well coordinated incidents to take place in and around" the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. This included dressing "friendly" Cubans in Cuban military uniforms and then have them "start riots near the main gate of the base. Others would pretend to be saboteurs inside the base. Ammunition would be blown up, fires started, aircraft sabotaged, mortars fired at the base with damage to installations."

The suggested operations grew progressively more outrageous. Another called for an action similar to the infamous incident in February 1898 when an explosion aboard the battleship Maine in Havana harbor killed 266 U.S. sailors. Although the exact cause of the explosion remained undetermined, it sparked the Spanish-American War with Cuba. Incited by the deadly blast, more than one million men volunteered for duty. Lemnitzer and his generals came up with a similar plan. "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," they proposed; "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

There seemed no limit to their fanaticism: "We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington," they wrote. "The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States.

We could sink a boatload of Cubans en route to Florida (real or simulated). . . . We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized."

Bombings were proposed, false arrests, hijackings:

*"Exploding a few plastic bombs in carefully chosen spots, the arrest of Cuban agents and the release of prepared documents substantiating Cuban involvement also would be helpful in projecting the idea of an irresponsible government."

*"Advantage can be taken of the sensitivity of the Dominican [Republic] Air Force to intrusions within their national air space. 'Cuban' B-26 or C-46 type aircraft could make cane burning raids at night. Soviet Bloc incendiaries could be found. This could be coupled with 'Cuban' messages to the Communist underground in the Dominican Republic and 'Cuban' shipments of arms which would be found, or intercepted, on the beach. Use of MiG type aircraft by U.S. pilots could provide additional provocation."

*"Hijacking attempts against civil air and surface craft could appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the Government of Cuba."

Among the most elaborate schemes was to "create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner en route from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight."

Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs worked out a complex deception:

An aircraft at Elgin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CJA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone [a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft]. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida.

From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Elgin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will be transmitting on the international distress frequency a "May Day" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MiG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft, which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO [International Civil Aviation Organization radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the U.S. what has happened to the aircraft instead of the U.S. trying to "sell" the incident.

Finally, there was a plan to "make it appear that Communist Cuban MiGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack." It was a particularly believable operation given the decade of shoot downs that had just taken place.

In the final sentence of his letter to Secretary McNamara recommending the operations, Lemnitzer made a grab for even more power asking that the Joint Chiefs be placed in charge of carrying out Operation Northwoods and the invasion. "It is recommended," he wrote, "that this responsibility for both oven and covert military operations be assigned to the Joint Chiefs of Staff."

At 2:30 on the afternoon of Tuesday, March 13, 1962, Lemnitzer went over last-minute details of Operation Northwoods with his covert action chief, Brigadier General William H. Craig, and signed the document. He then went to a "special meeting" in McNamara's office. An hour later he met with Kennedy's military representative, General Maxwell Taylor. What happened during those meetings is unknown. But three days later, President Kennedy told Lemnitzer that there was virtually no possibility that the U.S. would ever use overt military force in Cuba.

Undeterred, Lemnitzer and the Chiefs persisted, virtually to the point of demanding that they be given authority to invade and take over Cuba. About a month after submitting Operation Northwoods, they met the "tank," as the JCS conference room was called, and agreed on the wording of a tough memorandum to McNamara. "The Joint Chiefs of Staff believe that the Cuban problem must be solved in the near future," they wrote. "Further, they see no prospect of early success in overthrowing the present communist regime either as a result of internal uprising or external political, economic or psychological pressures. Accordingly they believe that military intervention by the United States will be required to overthrow the present communist regime."

Lemnitzer was virtually rabid in his hatred of Communism in general and Castro in particular "The Joint Chiefs of Staff believe that the United States can undertake military intervention in Cuba without risk of general war" he continued. "They also believe that the intervention can be accomplished rapidly enough to minimize communist opportunities for solicitation of UN action." However; what Lemnitzer was suggesting was not freeing the Cuban people, who were largely in support of Castro, but imprisoning them in a U.S. military-controlled police state. "Forces would assure rapid essential military control of Cuba," he wrote. "Continued police action would be required."

Concluding, Lemnitzer did not mince words: "[T]he Joint Chiefs of Staff recommend that a national policy of early military intervention in Cuba be adopted by the United States. They also recommend that such intervention be undertaken as soon as possible and preferably before the release of National Guard and Reserve forces presently on active duty."

By then McNamara had virtually no confidence in his military chief and was rejecting nearly every proposal the general sent to him. The rejections became so routine, said one of Lemnitzer's former staff officers, that the staffer told the general that the situation was putting the military in an "embarrassing rut." But Lemnitzer replied, "I am the senior military office--it's my job to state what I believe and it's his [McNamara's] job to approve or disapprove." "McNamara's arrogance was astonishing," said Lemnitzer's aide, who knew nothing of Operation Northwoods. "He gave General Lemnitzer very short shrift and treated him like a schoolboy. The general almost stood at attention when he came into the room. Everything was 'Yes, sir' and 'No, sir.'

Within months, Lemnitzer was denied a second term as JCS chairman and transferred to Europe as chief of NATO. Years later President Gerald Ford appointed Lemnitzer, a darling of the Republican right, to the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. Lemnitzer's Cuba chief, Brigadier General Craig, was also transferred. Promoted to major general, he spent three years as chief of the Army Security Agency, NSA's military arm.

Because of the secrecy and illegality of Operation Northwoods, all details remained hidden for forty years. Lemnitzer may have thought that all copies of the relevant documents had been destroyed; he was not one to leave compromising material lying around. Following the Bay of Pigs debacle, for example, he ordered Brigadier General David W Gray, Craig's predecessor as chief of the Cuba project within the JCS, to destroy all his notes concerning Joint Chiefs actions and discussions during that period. Gray's meticulous notes were the only detailed official records of what happened within the JCS during that time. According to Gray, Lemnitzer feared a congressional investigation and therefore wanted any incriminating evidence destroyed.

With the evidence destroyed, Lemnitzer felt free to lie to Congress. When asked, during secret hearings before a Senate committee, if he knew of any Pentagon plans for a direct invasion of Cuba he said he did not. Yet detailed JCS invasion plans had been drawn up even before Kennedy was inaugurated. And additional plans had been developed since. The consummate planner and man of details also became evasive, suddenly encountering great difficulty in recalling key aspects of the operation, as if he had been out of the country during the period. It was a sorry spectacle. Senator Gore called for Lemnitzer to be fired. "We need a shake up of the Joint Chiefs of Staff" he said. "We direly need a new chairman, as well as new members." No one had any idea of Operation Northwoods.

Because so many documents were destroyed, it is difficult to determine how many senior officials were aware of Operation Northwoods. As has been described, the document was signed and fully approved by Lemnitzer and the rest of the Joint Chiefs and addressed to the Secretary of Defense for his signature. Whether it went beyond McNamara to the president and the attorney general is not known.

Even after Lemnitzer lost his job, the Joint Chiefs kept planning "pretext" operations at least into 1963. Among their proposals was a deliberately create a war between Cuba and any of a number of .n American neighbors. This would give the United States military an excuse to come in on the side of Cuba's adversary and get rid of "A contrived 'Cuban' attack on an OAS [Organization of Americas] member could be set up," said one proposal, "and the attacked state could be urged to 'take measures of self-defense and request ice from the U.S. and OAS; the U.S. could almost certainly obtain necessary two-thirds support among OAS members for collective action against Cuba."

Among the nations they suggested that the United States secretly were Jamaica and Trinidad-Tobago. Both were members of the Commonwealth; thus, by secretly attacking them and then blaming Cuba, the United States could lure England into the war Castro. The report noted, "Any of the contrived situations de above are inherently, extremely risky in our democratic system in which security can be maintained, after the fact, with very great difficulty. If the decision should be made to set up a contrived situation it be one in which participation by U.S. personnel is limited only to the most highly trusted covert personnel. This suggests the infeasibility of the use of military units for any aspect of the contrived situation."

The report even suggested secretly paying someone in the Castro government to attack the United States: "The only area remaining for ration then would be to bribe one of Castro's subordinate commanders to initiate an attack on [the U.S. naval base at] Guantanamo." The act suggested--bribing a foreign nation to launch a violent attack American military installation--was treason.

In May 1963, Assistant Secretary of Defense Paul H. Nitze sent a the White House proposing "a possible scenario whereby an attack on a United States reconnaissance aircraft could be exploited toward the end of effecting the removal of the Castro regime." In the event Cuba attacked a U-2, the plan proposed sending in additional American pilots, this time on dangerous, unnecessary low-level reconnaissance missions with the expectation that they would also be shot down, thus provoking a war "[T]he U.S. could undertake various measures designed to stimulate the Cubans to provoke a new incident," said the plan. Nitze, however, did not volunteer to be one of the pilots.

One idea involved sending fighters across the island on "harassing reconnaissance" and "show-off" missions "flaunting our freedom of action, hoping to stir the Cuban military to action." "Thus," said the plan, "depending above all on whether the Cubans were or could be made to be trigger-happy, the development of the initial downing of a reconnaissance plane could lead at best to the elimination of Castro, perhaps to the removal of Soviet troops and the installation of ground inspection in Cuba, or at the least to our demonstration of firmness on reconnaissance." About a month later, a low-level flight was made across Cuba, but unfortunately for the Pentagon, instead of bullets it produced only a protest.

Lemnitzer was a dangerous-perhaps even unbalanced-right-wing extremist in an extraordinarily sensitive position during a critical period. But Operation Northwoods also had the support of every single member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and even senior Pentagon official Paul Nitze argued in favor of provoking a phony war with Cuba. The fact that the most senior members of all the services and the Pentagon could be so out of touch with reality and the meaning of democracy would be hidden for four decades.

In retrospect, the documents offer new insight into the thinking of the military's star-studded leadership. Although they never succeeded in launching America into a phony war with Cuba, they may have done so with Vietnam. More than 50,000 Americans and more than 2 million Vietnamese were eventually killed in that war.

It has long been suspected that the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident-the spark that led to America's long war in Vietnam-was largely staged or provoked by U.S. officials in order to build up congressional and public support for American involvement. Over the years, serious questions have been raised about the alleged attack by North Vietnamese patrol boats on two American destroyers in the Gulf But defenders of the Pentagon have always denied such charges, arguing that senior officials would never engage in such deceit.

Now, however, in light of the Operation Northwoods documents, it at deceiving the public and trumping up wars for Americans to fight and die in was standard, approved policy at the highest levels of the Pentagon. In fact, the Gulf of Tonkin seems right out of the Operation Northwoods playbook: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba . . . casualty lists in U.S. newspapers cause a helpful wave of indignation." One need only replace "Guantanamo Bay" with "Tonkin Gulf," and "Cuba" with "North Vietnam" and the Gulf of Tonkin incident may or may not have been stage-managed, but the senior Pentagon leadership at the time was clearly capable of such deceit.

Link (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html)

[frets5150]

Don't you know they are gonna say you made this up?


:rolleyes:

[Guitar Shark]

This is FORD's source, and the guy he believes over Popular Mechanics and all of the other experts who have opined on this issue:

http://www.gcnlive.com/genesis/host_images/Rivero_150.gif
Mike Rivero
Owner of weblog " www.whatreallyhappened.com "

[FORD]

How about ABC News, Counselor?

U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba
Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba
By David Ruppe
N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 - In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.
Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.
America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the plans were not connected to the agency, he notes.
The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.
"These were Joint Chiefs of Staff documents. The reason these were held secret for so long is the Joint Chiefs never wanted to give these up because they were so embarrassing," Bamford told ABCNEWS.com.
"The whole point of a democracy is to have leaders responding to the public will, and here this is the complete reverse, the military trying to trick the American people into a war that they want but that nobody else wants."
Gunning for War
The documents show "the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government," writes Bamford.
The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.
Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is to provide irrevocable proof … that the fault lies with the Communists et all Cuba [sic]."
The plans were motivated by an intense desire among senior military leaders to depose Castro, who seized power in 1959 to become the first communist leader in the Western Hemisphere - only 90 miles from U.S. shores.
The earlier CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba by Cuban exiles had been a disastrous failure, in which the military was not allowed to provide firepower.The military leaders now wanted a shot at it.
"The whole thing was so bizarre," says Bamford, noting public and international support would be needed for an invasion, but apparently neither the American public, nor the Cuban public, wanted to see U.S. troops deployed to drive out Castro.
Reflecting this, the U.S. plan called for establishing prolonged military - not democratic - control over the island nation after the invasion.
"That's what we're supposed to be freeing them from," Bamford says. "The only way we would have succeeded is by doing exactly what the Russians were doing all over the world, by imposing a government by tyranny, basically what we were accusing Castro himself of doing."
'Over the Edge'
The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans in hand made a pitch to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run by the military.
Whether the Joint Chiefs' plans were rejected by McNamara in the meeting is not clear. But three days later, President Kennedy told Lemnitzer directly there was virtually no possibility of ever using overt force to take Cuba, Bamford reports. Within months, Lemnitzer would be denied another term as chairman and transferred to another job.
The secret plans came at a time when there was distrust in the military leadership about their civilian leadership, with leaders in the Kennedy administration viewed as too liberal, insufficiently experienced and soft on communism. At the same time, however, there real were concerns in American society about their military overstepping its bounds.
There were reports U.S. military leaders had encouraged their subordinates to vote conservative during the election.
And at least two popular books were published focusing on a right-wing military leadership pushing the limits against government policy of the day.
The Senate Foreign Relations Committee published its own report on right-wing extremism in the military, warning a "considerable danger" in the "education and propaganda activities of military personnel" had been uncovered. The committee even called for an examination of any ties between Lemnitzer and right-wing groups. But Congress didn't get wind of Northwoods, says Bamford.
"Although no one in Congress could have known at the time," he writes, "Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs had quietly slipped over the edge."
Even after Lemnitzer was gone, he writes, the Joint Chiefs continued to plan "pretext" operations at least through 1963.
One idea was to create a war between Cuba and another Latin American country so that the United States could intervene. Another was to pay someone in the Castro government to attack U.S. forces at the Guantanamo naval base - an act, which Bamford notes, would have amounted to treason. And another was to fly low level U-2 flights over Cuba, with the intention of having one shot down as a pretext for a war.
"There really was a worry at the time about the military going off crazy and they did, but they never succeeded, but it wasn't for lack of trying," he says.
After 40 Years
Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined the possibility of a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy.
As public interest in the assassination swelled after JFK's release, Congress passed a law designed to increase the public's access to government records related to the assassination.
The author says a friend on the board tipped him off to the documents.
Afraid of a congressional investigation, Lemnitzer had ordered all Joint Chiefs documents related to the Bay of Pigs destroyed, says Bamford. But somehow, these remained.
"The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after," says Bamford.

Link (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662)

[FORD]

Originally posted by frets5150
Don't you know they are gonna say you made this up?


:rolleyes:

Yeah, I borrowed the DeLorean from Michael J. Fox and went back to 1962 so I could set up Operation Northwoods and blame it on the right wing extremists.

[Guitar Shark]

Wait, which event are you trying to prove, FORD? The one from the 1960s or the 9/11 conspiracy crap?

Oh, please tell me you are trying to link the two. :D

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Wait, which event are you trying to prove, FORD? The one from the 1960s or the 9/11 conspiracy crap?

Oh, please tell me you are trying to link the two. :D

It's basically the same scenario. Just substitute "terraists" for "communists", where the planes crash, and some other minor procedural details, and you have Northwoods 2001.

Or Reichstag 2001. Either one fits.

[Little Lamont]

None of this makes any difference. Our world is changed forever and there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

[FORD]

"Our World changed forever"

Straight out of the BCE propaganda mill........

[Dan]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
This is FORD's source, and the guy he believes over Popular Mechanics and all of the other experts who have opined on this issue:

http://www.gcnlive.com/genesis/host_images/Rivero_150.gif
Mike Rivero
Owner of weblog " www.whatreallyhappened.com "

Holy shit.

Go to the site above,type in 911 in the search WRH,go down to 9/11 mysteries and if you have a spare 1 hour and 30 minutes watch the clip and then make up your mind.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by frets5150
Don't you know they are gonna say you made this up?


:rolleyes:

No. But I'm going to say it's completely irrelevant...

[Sgt Schultz]

http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/caglecartoons/_847B8E9B_08AB_458B_B89A_9810E532ADF7_.gif

[Full Bug]

Funny, I knew when I posted this thread it would get lots of action over here, and of course my buddy Sesh said exactly what I would have said so there was no need for me to chime in.....
I will say this though, FORD, I hope one day you will come back to the planet Earth....

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by Dan
Holy shit.

Go to the site above,type in 911 in the search WRH,go down to 9/11 mysteries and if you have a spare 1 hour and 30 minutes watch the clip and then make up your mind.

Et tu, Dan? :(

[FORD]

Originally posted by Full Bug

I will say this though, FORD, I hope one day you will come back to the planet Earth....

And I hope you're nowhere near any obvious targets in Toronto when Little Stevie Wonderbush is ordered to bring Canada fully into the PNAC agenda with your own 833.018* :(


http://www.jamesbezan.com/photo_main/Harper-and-Bush.gif




(*metric for 911)

[kastco]

Originally posted by FORD
The Popular Mechanics article was written by Benjamin Chertoff, cousin of Michael "of the Devil" Chertoff, BCE Homeland Security secretary.

Hardly a reliable source.

On the other hand, Larry Silverstein, who owned the fucking building, admitted that they "pulled" it. "Pulled" refers to controlled demolition.

And since wiring the building with charges would have been impossible to do at the scene, then it's logical that WTC 7 was pre-wired with the charges at a previous time.

Which also means the towers themselves could have also been pre-wired.

In either case, the laws of physics didn't change on 9-11-01 no matter what the cousin of a BCE flunkie says. The towers' fires were confined to a relatively small portion of the buildings, and WTC 7 didn't get hit by a plane at all.

Burning jet fuel never reached the temperature required to melt steel - though the thermite charges used in a controlled demolition would have. And traces of thermite were found on WTC debris.

If you knew even a little about demolition of a steel structure then you would realize that inorder to wire a building of that size (47 floors) would take weeks. Secondly the charges are just part of what brings a building down. Structural steel has to be cut almost to the breaking point before charges are set and the combination of the two is what brings the building down. Steel structures within the building are cut not only to control the fall of the building but also enables the building to fall in the first place. There would have had to have been demolition men in that building for weeks removing walls, cutting steel etc... I seriously doubt that could be accomplished without anyone picking up on it. In fact it's laughable. I live a short distance from the city and have been to the Trade Center buildings many, many times prior to 9/11. Those buildings were right on top of each other. The only amazing thing is that more buildings didn't collapse. Rosie ODonnell is nothing but an over stuffed fat pig who should stick to licking her girlfriend and you should stick to Area 51 and the Loch Ness Monster.

[FORD]

Originally posted by kastco
If you knew even a little about demolition of a steel structure then you would realize that inorder to wire a building of that size (47 floors) would take weeks.

Of course it would. And renovations were taking place in the WTC during the months before the attack which left entire floors vacant for a time. The security firm which was in charge of WTC security waived normal procedures - including bomb sniffing dogs - in order to allow the work crews to do their work faster. Supposedly they were upgrading the sprinkler system and security features. but it would have been just as easy to strategically plant explosive charges. Hidden above the ceiling tiles, naturally.

BTW, the man in charge of that security firm?

Marvin Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/images/20020629_campdavidwalk-515h.jpg

That's him, jogging behind his monkey-assed brother.


Secondly the charges are just part of what brings a building down. Structural steel has to be cut almost to the breaking point before charges are set and the combination of the two is what brings the building down. Steel structures within the building are cut not only to control the fall of the building but also enables the building to fall in the first place. There would have had to have been demolition men in that building for weeks removing walls, cutting steel etc... I seriously doubt that could be accomplished without anyone picking up on it. In fact it's laughable.

The thermite itself cut the steel because it (not the jet fuel) burns hot enough to melt through the steel, cutting through the frame at each explosive charge. Laughable? Professor Steven Jones doesn't think so.


I live a short distance from the city and have been to the Trade Center buildings many, many times prior to 9/11. Those buildings were right on top of each other. The only amazing thing is that more buildings didn't collapse.

Had the buildings actually fallen over from "weakened steel" or such thing, they probably would have toppled over like a tree chopped down in the forest. The fact that they collapsed neatly, within their own footprint, is proof that it was no accident.

Think about this.... even if the ridiculous "pancake" theory explained how the lower floors collapsed under the weight coming down, then why didn't the section of the building ABOVE the crash sites topple over at least. Gravity doesn't work in reverse Or maybe it does in Chertoff-"reality"?


Rosie ODonnell is nothing but an over stuffed fat pig who should stick to licking her girlfriend and you should stick to Area 51 and the Loch Ness Monster.

Rosie O'Donnell is a NY native herself. Last I heard about 60% of New Yorkers didn't buy the BCE official story of 9-11-01. I'd guess most of those people watched it happen and know the "official story" doesn't hold up. I only watched it on TV and I could see that much.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
Of course it would. And renovations were taking place in the WTC during the months before the attack which left entire floors vacant for a time. The security firm which was in charge of WTC security waived normal procedures - including bomb sniffing dogs - in order to allow the work crews to do their work faster. Supposedly they were upgrading the sprinkler system and security features. but it would have been just as easy to strategically plant explosive charges. Hidden above the ceiling tiles, naturally.

BTW, the man in charge of that security firm?

Marvin Bush

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/images/20020629_campdavidwalk-515h.jpg

That's him, jogging behind his monkey-assed brother.



The thermite itself cut the steel because it (not the jet fuel) burns hot enough to melt through the steel, cutting through the frame at each explosive charge. Laughable? Professor Steven Jones doesn't think so.



Had the buildings actually fallen over from "weakened steel" or such thing, they probably would have toppled over like a tree chopped down in the forest. The fact that they collapsed neatly, within their own footprint, is proof that it was no accident.

Think about this.... even if the ridiculous "pancake" theory explained how the lower floors collapsed under the weight coming down, then why didn't the section of the building ABOVE the crash sites topple over at least. Gravity doesn't work in reverse Or maybe it does in Chertoff-"reality"?



Rosie O'Donnell is a NY native herself. Last I heard about 60% of New Yorkers didn't buy the BCE official story of 9-11-01. I'd guess most of those people watched it happen and know the "official story" doesn't hold up. I only watched it on TV and I could see that much.

What's this based on Ford?

All these explosives guys planting charges and nobody talked or questioned it?

And when I brought up this point, maybe a year to 18-months ago, you said it was more like two or three days that the bldg. was closed for renovations...

It's just kind of funny how conspiracy theorists never put their own self-serving, hair-brained ideas to the same myopic, hyper-critical lens they put the official story to.

So Ford, how many people did it take to complete the BCE-Likud "Inside Job" on 9/11?

Enquiring minds want to know...

[Guitar Shark]

I remember the days when FORD spent months trying to convince us that missiles, not planes, crashed into the Twin Towers. :)

Now it's a controlled demolition orchestrated by the government, kept a secret, and carried out without anyone figuring it out.

Wonder what the next theory will be?

[kastco]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FORD
[B]

Had the buildings actually fallen over from "weakened steel" or such thing, they probably would have toppled over like a tree chopped down in the forest. The fact that they collapsed neatly, within their own footprint, is proof that it was no accident.

Think about this.... even if the ridiculous "pancake" theory explained how the lower floors collapsed under the weight coming down, then why didn't the section of the building ABOVE the crash sites topple over at least. Gravity doesn't work in reverse Or maybe it does in Chertoff-"reality"?

Actually the towers were supported by steel structures on the exterior unlike almost all other buildings which are supported by steel structures on the interior. The interior steel held up the floors not the building itself. Once that steel was weakened (not melted) by the heat it warped and collapsed. The pancake effect is very believable sincethose floors were cement and almost two feet thick. Once one floor went the other were going to go even easier. And so on down the line. Although I was not there at the moment of the attack I was there shortly there after and I have no problem believing the official story. I don't always trust the goverment but IMO there is only one reason those buildings came down and thats because they were hit by two fuel laden jet planes. The incredible thing to me is that building 7 stood for as long as it did.

[Ellyllions]

If our government is this sneaky smart, then why is Bin Laden still on the loose?

How come our Vice President shot one of his friends on a hunting trip?

Do you mean to tell me that our President (this awesome criminal master minds that you claim him to be, Ford) trips up over the easiest of spoken phrases and yet you truly belive he could pull off something like this?

:p

[FORD]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
If our government is this sneaky smart, then why is Bin Laden still on the loose?

How come our Vice President shot one of his friends on a hunting trip?

Do you mean to tell me that our President (this awesome criminal master minds that you claim him to be, Ford) trips up over the easiest of spoken phrases and yet you truly belive he could pull off something like this?

:p

Bin Laden's on the loose because they have no evidence to hold him (ask the FBI - He's NOT on their 10 most wanted list). Also, Bin Laden is one of the BCE's oldest friends and business partners. His brother toasted the success of 9-11 with Poppy Bush at the very moment the Pentagon was hit (by whatever) a few miles away at a DC Hotel.

And Harry Whittington probably got shot in the face as a warning. No doubt he knows a lot of BCE secrets, and he better be sure they stay that way.

Chimpy didn't pull anything off himself. He's never been anything but a life size Howdy Doody to parade before the cameras. The fact that he IS so obviously stupid, is what throws so many people off the evil of the BCE's agenda, because they erroneously assume he's actually in charge, and couldn't possibly pull off any of this.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I remember the days when FORD spent months trying to convince us that missiles, not planes, crashed into the Twin Towers. :)

Now it's a controlled demolition orchestrated by the government, kept a secret, and carried out without anyone figuring it out.

Wonder what the next theory will be?

I **NEVER** said that missiles hit the Twin Towers. :mad:

[Ellyllions]

okie dokie......Ford.....


*backs slowly out of thread*

[Dan]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Et tu, Dan? :(

Guitar Shark,do you have something to tell me?

[Keef]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I remember the days when FORD spent months trying to convince us that missiles, not planes, crashed into the Twin Towers. :)

Now it's a controlled demolition orchestrated by the government, kept a secret, and carried out without anyone figuring it out.

Wonder what the next theory will be? Seen a few things floating around the net.


This is somewhat off topic but, i was in DC that morning. Me and my brother were down there because we were moving.

Going out of DC we see a low flying jet followed by a fighter. About halfway down 66, we hear about the whole thing on the radio.

I have read about a missile hitting the Pentagon and every other stupid thing. I saw what i saw.

Wait one minute Warpig and everyone like you. Th at event is burned in my brain and after this, after all these years, i really think this Gov't allowed that attack. They allowed it to justify the hell we are in now.

As if we aren't hated worldwide?

I may be wrong, but i am sick and tired of seeing people laying down and not question a thing this Administration does.

Oh, i forgot, you are SOMEWHAT dissapointed? Fucking stooge....

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
I **NEVER** said that missiles hit the Twin Towers. :mad:


Yes you did. You had a thread with pictures trying to prove that a missile was fired from one of the planes before impact. You're trying to use semantics to back out of it now.


You're only willing to believe anything but the truth...

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Keef
Seen a few things floating around the net.


This is somewhat off topic but, i was in DC that morning. Me and my brother were down there because we were moving.

Going out of DC we see a low flying jet followed by a fighter. About halfway down 66, we hear about the whole thing on the radio.

I have read about a missile hitting the Pentagon and every other stupid thing. I saw what i saw.

Wait one minute Warpig and everyone like you. Th at event is burned in my brain and after this, after all these years, i really think this Gov't allowed that attack. They allowed it to justify the hell we are in now.

As if we aren't hated worldwide?

I may be wrong, but i am sick and tired of seeing people laying down and not question a thing this Administration does.

Oh, i forgot, you are SOMEWHAT dissapointed? Fucking stooge....


I also had a friend who saw the plane fly overhead and never saw a fighter plane behind it. Didn't hear any of the witnesses who saw the plane fly over them before impact report it either.

I still don't get how people can sit here and harp all day about the military blunders (which I agree with) of this administration and still praise the same people for pulling off the perfect coup in front on the world.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by diamondD
Yes you did. You had a thread with pictures trying to prove that a missile was fired from one of the planes before impact. You're trying to use semantics to back out of it now.


Yes, that's exactly what I was talking about. He was literally CONVINCED that missiles were involved. Controlled demolition didn't become his theory until later.

I'm sure Ally will back us up too, I remember that she was one of the more vocal people saying how ridiculous the argument was.

[Full Bug]

Deniers of 9/11 and of the Holocaust are two of a kind. It is a given that television networks put profits above pride, but ABC has reached a new low in its sponsorship of Rosie O'Donnell. The daytime talk show host recently joined the world of "truthers" --people who believe that 9/11 was an attack staged by this country's own government.

On ABC's popular The View, O'Donnell lent her expert opinion that it is impossible for the World Trade Center's building 7 "to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved." To say otherwise, she added, "is beyond ignorant." (When she isn't offering instruction on the fine points of structural engineering, O'Donnell entertains by hanging upside-down from a rope.)

If this all sounds like the howling of a rabid dog, O'Donnell isn't alone in the kennel. A recent poll from the Scripps Research Center found that more than a third of Americans believe that 9/11 was an "inside job." Those who actively promote the idea, though, are more than mere laughable loons. They bear resemblance to another particularly virulent conspiracy nut -- the Holocaust denier.

It may be coincidence that O'Donnell's 9/11 denial has manifested itself in such close proximity to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's "Holocaust conference" of last December, but she sounds a lot like many of its participants.

Both profess interest in the pursuit of truth.

Mahammad Ali Ramini, advisor to Ahmadinejad, announced that he would chair a committee to find "the truth on the genocide of Jews."

O'Donnell says that she is merely "trying, as always, for a rigorous truth."

And both profess total objectivity in that pursuit.

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki made an offer to British Prime Minister Tony Blair to send "independent investigators" to visit former Nazi death camps -- people "who are not sympathetic" to the Nazis nor "to the Zionist regime."

"I have begun doing exactly what this country, at its best, allows for me to do," wrote O'Donnell on her blog. "Inquire. Investigate."

Yet for both, "truth" precedes "investigation."

The Holocaust, Ahmadinejad said at the start of the "conference," is a "myth."

The terrorist attack of 9/11, said O'Donnell at the mere outset of her "inquiry," "is impossible."

Both make shameless use of fabricated math and science.

"The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp," said Australian Holocaust denier Frederick Toben, "could be about 2,007. The railroad to the camp did not have enough capacity to transfer large numbers of Jews."

"I do believe that it's the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel," said O'Donnell. "It is physically impossible."

And both cite "studies" or "experts" without actually citing any studies or experts.

"All the studies and research carried out so far have proven that there is no reason to believe that the Holocaust ever occurred," said former Iranian interior minister and Hezbollah cofounder Ali Akbar Mohtashamipour.

"Look at the films, get a physics expert in here from Yale, from Harvard, pick the school," said O'Donnell.

The worlds of deniers O'Donnell and Ahmadinejad intersected more overtly when the former defended the latter's hostage taking of 15 British sailors and Royal Marines who, O'Donnell ruled by fiat, "went into Iranian waters and they were seized by the Iranians." O'Donnell added her expression of sympathy for mass murderers the world over: "Don't fear the terrorists. They're mothers and fathers."

Only one with the most sinister sentiments toward the country that gave her so much for so little could express such warm regard for its most determined enemies. And therein lies the real similarity between Holocaust deniers and 9/11 deniers. The "theories" of both, which could otherwise only be explained as serious psychopathology, are but expressions of venom and bile. The former hate Jews (and, often, the United States). The latter hate the United States (and, often, Jews).

White House press secretary Tony Snow's description of Ahmadinejad's conference as "a platform of hatred," then, applies as well to the current incarnation of The View.

Which leads to this question: If ratings were strong, would ABC allow, say, David Duke to host a show on which he preached his doubts about the Holocaust and his fondness for Nazis? Stay tuned and the answer will soon be revealed -- by whether and how fast the network pulls the plug on O'Donnell.

[Full Bug]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Yes, that's exactly what I was talking about. He was literally CONVINCED that missiles were involved. Controlled demolition didn't become his theory until later.

I'm sure Ally will back us up too, I remember that she was one of the more vocal people saying how ridiculous the argument was.
FORD trips over his arguments all the time, thats nothing new, the fact he really believes the stuff he says I normally would call lame, but its kinda sad actually....

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Yes, that's exactly what I was talking about. He was literally CONVINCED that missiles were involved. Controlled demolition didn't become his theory until later.

I'm sure Ally will back us up too, I remember that she was one of the more vocal people saying how ridiculous the argument was.

He was spouting off about missiles, and a few times he said radio-controlled jets were possibly involve.

Classic!!! :D

This ranks right up there with the thread "The BCE just hacked my fucking computer!"

:D

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark

I'm sure Ally will back us up too, I remember that she was one of the more vocal people saying how ridiculous the argument was.

I always knew I should have file-saved those threads.

FORD, Demon Cunt, DLR'scock, and Keeyth were big into that whole what really brought down the twin towers thread.

It started out as some David Copperfield trick where the towers were still there, despite me telling them about walking around the place and all those cranes swinging around.

Then it morphed into a fake plane, to an empty passenger plane, to a passenger plan that shot a missile, to some military plane disguised as a passenger airliner shooting a missile, to Bush controlling a plane with a joystick, to just a plain missile.

Then they argued with my brother, Lucky, and Ashcroft about aeromechanics, military planes, deployment time, and the nearest air base to NYC (of which, we really should have one nearby).

Lucky was accused of being an FBI agent.
Ashcroft was told he knew nothing about military planes.
I had a lot of interesting insults thrown at me.

Ah, the good ol' days.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Deniers of 9/11 and of the Holocaust are two of a kind.

BZZZZZZZT.... wrong answer. Argument over.

The Holocaust is an accepted historical event with blatantly obvious evidence of what took place (ovens, mass graves, etc)

9-11-01 is about 85% based on conjecture with absolutely no facts to back it up, with the so-called "official story" being just as ridiculous and impossible to prove as most of the alternative theories labeled as "conspiracies".

So exactly which PNAC tabloid did you get this unlinked steaming pile of horseshit from anyway?

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
BZZZZZZZT.... wrong answer. Argument over.

The Holocaust is an accepted historical event with blatantly obvious evidence of what took place (ovens, mass graves, etc)

9-11-01 is about 85% based on conjecture with absolutely no facts to back it up, with the so-called "official story" being just as ridiculous and impossible to prove as most of the alternative theories labeled as "conspiracies".

So exactly which PNAC tabloid did you get this unlinked steaming pile of horseshit from anyway?

LMAO!!

Actually, the argument was over when you implied that I was making up stuff about you, and you were shown the door. Apparently I wasn't the only one who remembered your prior theories about 9/11.

9/11 is an "accepted historical event with blatantly obvious evidence" supporting what happened, you just choose to disregard it.

What you call the "official story" is not a "story" at all. It's what happened.

I'm convinced that if God came down to Earth today and told you that you're wrong, you'd still dismiss it.

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark


I'm convinced that if God came down to Earth today and told you that you're wrong, you'd still dismiss it.

How about if the Son of God tells you that ye ALL are wrong?

Ye mortals shall not know the truth of what happened on that day, because the Son of Bush will not allow a real investigation, and thy Whore of Babylon media will not demand it of him.

[Guitar Shark]

Well, that wasn't predictable or anything. :rolleyes:

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Well, that wasn't predictable or anything. :rolleyes:

Thomas is supposed to be the doubting one, not you, Matthew.

Verily, as the Son of Bush has ruled thy country through deception from the beginning, so has he done war by deception.

Thou art a lawyer. Are ye not trained to know when someone is lying?

[Nickdfresh]

Is Bush lying, or just stupid?

I tend to believe the later. And if he's a slacker dumbass as many believe, then how did he pull off an inside job, Jesus?

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Jesus Christ
How about if the Son of God tells you that ye ALL are wrong?

Ye mortals shall not know the truth of what happened on that day, because the Son of Bush will not allow a real investigation, and thy Whore of Babylon media will not demand it of him.

Again, restating what I said in that thread 3 to 4 years ago --

With as many people involved that would have to be bought and kept silent to keep the secret coverup a secret -- do you think we wouldn't have heard one peep?

The theories you've claimed are really out there. And don't try to backtrack with me, because you and I, my friend, had that whole "it's light reflectiing off of the metallic plane"-"no, that was a missile taking off" debate with the plane crash video.

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Is Bush lying, or just stupid?

I tend to believe the later. And if he's a slacker dumbass as many believe, then how did he pull off an inside job, Jesus?

The best part of the deception of the Son of Bush is the illusion that he is in charge.

Nicodemus, have ye heard the expression "by deception, thou shalt do war" before?

If ye know the significance of that quote, ye might be closer to the real truth of what happened.

[Nickdfresh]

Oh! How ConVENIent!
http://www.sethbarnes.com/blogphotos/sethbarnes/www/church_lady.jpg

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by Jesus Christ
If ye know the significance of that quote, ye might be closer to the real truth of what happenned.

Funny... I would have expected the Son of God would have the divine power to spell correctly.

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Funny... I would have expected the Son of God would have the divine power to spell correctly.

Even a Messiah can type too fast now and then.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by Jesus Christ
Even a Messiah can type too fast now and then.

Funny how the creator of the Messiah alias and other aliases repeatedly types that particular word too fast! (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=478094&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending) ;)

[Jesus Christ]

Matthew, ye accuseth Me of being Satan, the prince of devils. But if Satan cast out Satan, then how would his kingdom stand?

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
dude: you have no idea what you're talking about.

the "official story" that the government wants you to believe, that "terrorists" armed with "box cutters" could hijack 4 planes and fly them into buildings, collapsing 3 buildings, and crashing 1 plane in a field is just completely unbelievable. seriously, it's IMPOSSIBLE. get it through your skull, it CANNOT happen that way.


let me clue you in on what actually happened:

1)sometime in 1999-2000, the government secretly put explosive charges in 3 of the 7 WTC buildings. all of the government contractors installing the charges were sworn to secrecy.

2) on 9/11 the government hijacked 4 commercial airplanes and diverted 3 of them to a secret military base. there, they off-loaded the crews and passengers and then dismantled the planes completely. all of the personnel at the airbase were sworn to secrecy.

3) in place of the commercial planes, the government had 2 remote-controlled military cargo planes painted to look like commerical planes take off and crash into the WTC towers. all of the painters and the remote control pilots were sworn to secrecy.

4) a cruise missle was launched from a naval ship off the atlantic coast and it slammed into the pentagon. all of the sailors on the ship were sworn to secrecy.

5) the 4th hijacked commercial airplane was actually allowed to continue flying so it could then be shot down by 2 F-16s. but, the government would later cover that fact up and claim the "terrorists" crashed it. all of the air force personnel were sworn to secrecy.

6) the government detonated the charges in the WTC buildings, but later came up with a "story" that using "physics" burning fuel weakened steel support beams and caused building collapses, along with falling debris hitting WTC 7 and eventually destabilizing it. as this is not possible, the government got a bunch of "scientists" to agree to back the "official" collapse stories. all of these "scientists" and most of the "scientists" and "engineers" in the world were sworn to secrecy.

7) the crews and passengers of the 3 hijacked and then diverted commercial planes were then killed, partially because they would not all agree to be sworn to secrecy, but also partially so that some of their DNA could be spread around the "crash sites." all of the executioners were sworn to secrecy.

8) the remains of the crew and passengers were ground up into soylent green and fed to the "terrorists" housed at gitmo. all of the cooks were sworn to secrecy.


see: that's much more believable.



:D

Best thing I've read on the net in quite some time...

Awesome!


:elvis:

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
BZZZZZZZT.... wrong answer. Argument over.



Exactly...

You lost...


:elvis:

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by ELVIS
:D

Best thing I've read on the net in quite some time...

Awesome!


:elvis:

I laughed at it the first time, but upon a second read, it's even better. Truly brilliant stuff, kb. :D

[Seshmeister]

You know that FORD has lost an argument when his Jesus alias appears...:)

[kastco]

Ford probably also believes that Flight 800 was shot down by a Navy missile. Just like 9/11, so many people could not keep their mouths shut for so long. In 9/11 they didn't, Bin Laden and the boys openly admitted to planning and carrying out 9/11. Trained in Vero Beach Florida to fly planes (not land). Etc... Ford is the same guy who several years ago claimed on this very site that the federal goverment was spying on him. Ford is sooo important and that is why he posts on this site which is certainly on the top of web sites that the federal goverment is concerned about. I'm sure Ford is a nice guy and he certainly seems smart enough buy I think he has just a bit too much time on his hands and should consider medication and possibly wrapping his head in tin foil to keep out any errant radio waves the Bush brothers might be steering his way.

[ELVIS]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/2b/250px-Tin_foil_hat_4.jpg


:D

[Loons The Great]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Those who actively promote the idea, though, are more than mere laughable loons.

How dare you scandalize the name of loons?:D :cool:

[jhale667]

Originally posted by kastco
.....and should consider medication and possibly wrapping his head in tin foil to keep out any errant radio waves the Bush brothers might be steering his way.


...Didn't work for my (former)singer. :rolleyes:



Originally posted by ELVIS
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/2b/250px-Tin_foil_hat_4.jpg


:D


:lol: Okay, that's fucking hysterical...

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I laughed at it the first time, but upon a second read, it's even better. Truly brilliant stuff, kb. :D

thanks, guys.

but you know, sometimes, the...divine inspiration just hits you...

[Jesus Christ]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
thanks, guys.

but you know, sometimes, the...divine inspiration just hits you...

Hey, leave Me out of this!

[Full Bug]

9/11 Loose Change Debate. Popular Mechanics try to debunk 9/11 myths.
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=22870

[kastco]

Which one of those two kids sitting there at that debate is Ford? I loved the teenage snickering when the guys from Popular Mechanics were trying to give their take. Now theres a couple of guys you want to believe.

[Full Bug]

Another government cover-up FORD can point to....
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=22836

This site is dedicated to exposing the truth about the government's involvement in the sinking of the Titanic. Specifically, that they did it (and by "they" I mean Jews).
I created this documentary to spread the truth about the government coverup in Oklahoma, Waco, New York Middle East the North Atlantic.

I'm just a kid with a laptop who discovered the truth, but I encourage you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions based on my premise that the government is lying to you and that your disagreement with said premise constitutes your admission of being a sheep. I suggest starting with my video:

Still not convinced?

As of this writing, there are only two living survivors of the Titanic, and both of them claim to have been babies and too young to remember what happened.
HOW CONVENIENT!!!

Even though some of the world's richest and most famous passengers were on the ship, not a single video was made of the Titanic sinking.
HOW CONVENIENT!!!

Abraham Lincoln dies the exact same day the Titanic sinks, except 47 years prior! The Titanic had the capacity to carry 3,547 passengers aboard! They both have 47!!!!
COINCIDENCE???

When will you sheeple realize that you're being lied to? How many amateur documentaries must be made using stock footage before you believe that we're important?

More Truth:
An iceberg was blamed for sinking the Titanic. Yeah right. Do they expect us to believe that ice--which is frozen water--is stronger than metal--the stuff they make swords out of? If icebergs are really that tough, then why don't people make boats out of icebergs instead?

I'll tell you why: because the government is a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Smoking Gun:
While doing research for my documentary, I came across the smoking gun. This evidence is so hot that the government shut off my Internet access when I discovered it. I called the cable company and they said that they turned off my Internet access for not paying my bill. So it was just a coincidence that the government turned off my Internet at the exact same moment the cable company did? Nice try government.

Here's what they don't want you to know: if you take the word "TITANIC" and you remove the letters T, I, and T, and then you add the letters C, O, S, P, R, and Y, then it spells: Conspiracy!


COINCIDENCE???

I literally got chills when I discovered this. Whoever orchestrated this plot really knew what they were doing. I'm tired of being lied to. I'm mad as hell and I'm going to keep editing video until I get some answers. All day if I have to. Spread the truth!!!

[kastco]

One more thing. If you remove the anic from Titanic it spells TIT and I think Ford sucked on one for a few too many years. A coincidence? I think not!

[FORD]

I think Costco's been sucking on Full Bug's bong.

[Loons The Great]

Originally posted by kastco
One more thing. If you remove the anic from Titanic it spells TIT and I think Ford sucked on one for a few too many years. A coincidence? I think not!

Yo mamma's TITs...yo sistah's TITs...yo woman's TITs...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Jesus Christ
The best part of the deception of the Son of Bush is the illusion that he is in charge.

Nicodemus, have ye heard the expression "by deception, thou shalt do war" before?

If ye know the significance of that quote, ye might be closer to the real truth of what happened.

Oh c'mon man. Is that your stock answer? That the BCE is "the man behind the curtain?"

FoJesus, that's just absurd...

Who is the man behind the curtain then?

Was it Rummy, Condi, Wolfoshitz, Kristol, etc.?

Those clowns couldn't plan a Boyscout Jamboree without suffering 30% casualties and spending about $200,000,000. The New York Times, the much hated "liberal media" outlet that has exposed secret, illegal programs such as the NSA Spying Program and other violations of FISA, and the FBI's abuses and scofflawing regarding the Patriot Act. Between the NYTimes and Seymour Hersh at the New Yorker, you don't think someone would have said something by now?

So, how could a secret "SPECTER-inside job" operation, involving hundreds if not thousands (and elements of the US military) according to your own past posts on the topic, ever be kept secret for long?

[kastco]

And certainly Fords boy Clinton was in on it because there was no way such a huge operation could be planned and carried out in the short time that George Jr. was in office. I'm sure theres an answer for that also. Fords line of thinking kinda reminds me of that old George Carlin sportscaster bit, "I call it as I see it and if I don't see it I make it up".

[kastco]

Originally posted by FORD
I think Costco's been sucking on Full Bug's bong.

Costco - Kastco, I get it now. Hold on a second I'm slapping my knee. Man that was funny and original but I think it's a conspiracy. Did you type this post on the grassy knoll. Come on now Ford fess up.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
Sesh, you claim to value science over superstition, yet you ignore the facts.

Jet fuel, under the "best" of circumstances, does not come anywhere near the temperature required to weaken or melt steel. If it did, it would melt airplane engines, and then devour the aluminum body of the plane.

And in the case of WTC tower 2 in particular, most of the jet fuel burned outside the building in the massive fireball that we all saw repeated endlessly on TV. So that building had the lower of the two temperatures at the point of impact, yet it fell first.

Tell me, scientifically, how the fuck that makes sense?

George Bush has successfully fooled millions with his lies. But the laws of science aren't going to bend for his monkey ass.

Further evidence that fire DOES weaken steel, causing it to collapse:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/index.html

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/story.overpass.ap.jpg

OAKLAND, California (AP) -- A gasoline tanker crashed and burst into flames near the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge on Sunday, creating such intense heat that a stretch of highway melted and collapsed.

Officials predicted a traffic nightmare for Bay Area commuters for weeks or months to come.

Flames shot 200 feet in the air, but the truck's driver walked away from the scene with second-degree burns. (Watch I-Reporter Paul Kochli explain his video of the aftermath of the fiery truck crash )

No other injuries were reported in the 3:45 a.m. crash, which officials said could have been deadly had it occurred at a busier time.

"I've never seen anything like it," Officer Trent Cross of the California Highway Patrol said of the crumpled interchange. "I'm looking at this thinking, 'Wow, no one died' -- that's amazing. It's just very fortunate."

Authorities said the damage could take months to repair, and that it would cause the worst disruption for Bay Area commuters since the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake damaged a section of the Bay Bridge itself.

Nearly 75,000 vehicles use the portion of the road every day. But because the accident occurred where three highways converge, authorities said it could cause commuting problems for hundreds of thousands of people.

State transportation officials said 280,000 commuters take the bridge into San Francisco each day.

Rush hour preparations
On Sunday the collapse doubled the half-hour trip drivers normally face getting to and from San Francisco and the eastern suburbs -- even though many didn't even attempt the trip because of the crash. Traffic appeared light on the bridge itself, but motorists looking to get on and off were backed up on both sides.

Transportation officials said they already had added trains to the Bay Area Rapid Transit rail system that takes commuters across San Francisco Bay, and were urging people to telecommute if possible.

In preparation for rush hour, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger authorized funding so that ferries, buses and the rail system could carry commuters free of charge during Monday's commute.

State officials said motorists who try to take alternate routes Monday instead of relying on public transportation would face nightmarish commutes.

The tanker carrying 8,600 gallons of gasoline ignited after crashing into a pylon on the interchange, which connects westbound lanes of Interstate 80 to southbound I-880, on the edge of downtown Oakland about half a mile from the Bay Bridge's toll plaza.

The driver, James Mosqueda, 51, of Woodland, was headed from a refinery in Benecia to a gas station near the Oakland Airport when the accident occurred, according to the California Highway Patrol.

A preliminary investigation indicated he may have been speeding on the curving road, Cross said. Mosqueda was being treated in a hospital for burns Sunday; the hospital would not transfer media calls to his room.

Flames 200 feet high
Witnesses reported flames rising up to 200 feet into the air. Heat exceeded 2,750 degrees and caused the steel beams holding up the interchange from eastbound I-80 to eastbound Interstate 580 above to buckle and bolts holding the structure together to melt, leading to the collapse, California Department of Transportation director Will Kempton said.

The charred section of collapsed freeway was draped at a sharp angle onto the highway beneath, exposing a web of twisted metal beneath the concrete. Officials said that altogether a 250-yard portion of the upper roadway was damaged.

The cost of the repairs would likely run into the tens of millions of dollars, and the state was seeking federal disaster aid, Kempton said. Schwarzenegger late Sunday issued an emergency declaration to allow repairs to happen faster, said Adam Mendelsohn, the governor's spokesman.

The Bay Bridge consists of two heavily traveled, double-decked bridges about two miles long straddling San Francisco Bay.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom said the accident showed how fragile the Bay area's transportation network is, whether to an earthquake or terrorist attack, and has the potential to have a major economic effect on the city.

"It's another giant wake-up call," Newsom told reporters at the California Democratic Party convention in San Diego.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[BITEYOASS]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Further evidence that fire DOES weaken steel, causing it to collapse:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/index.html

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/story.overpass.ap.jpg

OAKLAND, California (AP) -- A gasoline tanker crashed and burst into flames near the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge on Sunday, creating such intense heat that a stretch of highway melted and collapsed.

Officials predicted a traffic nightmare for Bay Area commuters for weeks or months to come.

Flames shot 200 feet in the air, but the truck's driver walked away from the scene with second-degree burns. (Watch I-Reporter Paul Kochli explain his video of the aftermath of the fiery truck crash )

No other injuries were reported in the 3:45 a.m. crash, which officials said could have been deadly had it occurred at a busier time.

"I've never seen anything like it," Officer Trent Cross of the California Highway Patrol said of the crumpled interchange. "I'm looking at this thinking, 'Wow, no one died' -- that's amazing. It's just very fortunate."

Authorities said the damage could take months to repair, and that it would cause the worst disruption for Bay Area commuters since the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake damaged a section of the Bay Bridge itself.

Nearly 75,000 vehicles use the portion of the road every day. But because the accident occurred where three highways converge, authorities said it could cause commuting problems for hundreds of thousands of people.

State transportation officials said 280,000 commuters take the bridge into San Francisco each day.

Rush hour preparations
On Sunday the collapse doubled the half-hour trip drivers normally face getting to and from San Francisco and the eastern suburbs -- even though many didn't even attempt the trip because of the crash. Traffic appeared light on the bridge itself, but motorists looking to get on and off were backed up on both sides.

Transportation officials said they already had added trains to the Bay Area Rapid Transit rail system that takes commuters across San Francisco Bay, and were urging people to telecommute if possible.

In preparation for rush hour, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger authorized funding so that ferries, buses and the rail system could carry commuters free of charge during Monday's commute.

State officials said motorists who try to take alternate routes Monday instead of relying on public transportation would face nightmarish commutes.

The tanker carrying 8,600 gallons of gasoline ignited after crashing into a pylon on the interchange, which connects westbound lanes of Interstate 80 to southbound I-880, on the edge of downtown Oakland about half a mile from the Bay Bridge's toll plaza.

The driver, James Mosqueda, 51, of Woodland, was headed from a refinery in Benecia to a gas station near the Oakland Airport when the accident occurred, according to the California Highway Patrol.

A preliminary investigation indicated he may have been speeding on the curving road, Cross said. Mosqueda was being treated in a hospital for burns Sunday; the hospital would not transfer media calls to his room.

Flames 200 feet high
Witnesses reported flames rising up to 200 feet into the air. Heat exceeded 2,750 degrees and caused the steel beams holding up the interchange from eastbound I-80 to eastbound Interstate 580 above to buckle and bolts holding the structure together to melt, leading to the collapse, California Department of Transportation director Will Kempton said.

The charred section of collapsed freeway was draped at a sharp angle onto the highway beneath, exposing a web of twisted metal beneath the concrete. Officials said that altogether a 250-yard portion of the upper roadway was damaged.

The cost of the repairs would likely run into the tens of millions of dollars, and the state was seeking federal disaster aid, Kempton said. Schwarzenegger late Sunday issued an emergency declaration to allow repairs to happen faster, said Adam Mendelsohn, the governor's spokesman.

The Bay Bridge consists of two heavily traveled, double-decked bridges about two miles long straddling San Francisco Bay.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom said the accident showed how fragile the Bay area's transportation network is, whether to an earthquake or terrorist attack, and has the potential to have a major economic effect on the city.

"It's another giant wake-up call," Newsom told reporters at the California Democratic Party convention in San Diego.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Added to the fact that it was a semi loaded with fuel. Physical stress+Weight+High Temperature=Structural Breakdown.

[Redballjets88]

Originally posted by FORD
The Popular Mechanics article was written by Benjamin Chertoff, cousin of Michael "of the Devil" Chertoff, BCE Homeland Security secretary.

Hardly a reliable source.

On the other hand, Larry Silverstein, who owned the fucking building, admitted that they "pulled" it. "Pulled" refers to controlled demolition.

And since wiring the building with charges would have been impossible to do at the scene, then it's logical that WTC 7 was pre-wired with the charges at a previous time.

Which also means the towers themselves could have also been pre-wired.

In either case, the laws of physics didn't change on 9-11-01 no matter what the cousin of a BCE flunkie says. The towers' fires were confined to a relatively small portion of the buildings, and WTC 7 didn't get hit by a plane at all.

Burning jet fuel never reached the temperature required to melt steel - though the thermite charges used in a controlled demolition would have. And traces of thermite were found on WTC debris.



rosie odonnol is reliable though

[Hardrock69]

Buliding 7 was collapsed because they did not want anyone finding the pre-wired explosives. The flight that crashed in Western Pennsylvania was supposed to hit it, but because it crashed before it could get back to NY, the decision was made to "pull it".

[FORD]

Hey Matt, thanks for bringing the San Francisco freeway collapse into this.......

Within hours, I'd be willing to bet that coverage of this story is "sanitized" by the corporate media, because it in fact verifies what I have been saying all along......

THIS fire burned at 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit. That is 50 degrees higher than what is neccessary to weaken and melt steel, and so it did. The laws of physics at work, as they have always been, and not as Michael Chertoff's cousin tried to rewrite them post 9-11.

Once again, the jet fuel in the WTC never got anywhere NEAR this temperature, and most of it burned off outside the building.

Also Matt, you might remember a few years back when a similar fire took place under a freeway overpass in Seattle. That bridge did not collapse, because the support structure was encased in concrete.

As was the support structure of the World Trade Center.

I'd say the BCE's a little nervous right now. Look for this story to disappear faster than a jar of anal lube at Van Squalen's house.

[kastco]

If flight 93 was supposed to fly into building 7 than why was flight 93 heading towards Washington DC? Maybe the hijackers were confused because they certainly were'nt heading in the proper direction. Also, to towers 1 and 2 coming down it would have been damn near impossible to hit building 7 unless you were one hell of a pilot which these guys were not. Why can't some just accept the fact that it was a bunch of fanatical terrorists who hate America and decided to do something about it. Is it possible that these dirt bags are of the same mind set as those that blow themselves up on a daily basis over in Iraq.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Further evidence that fire DOES weaken steel, causing it to collapse:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/index.html

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/story.overpass.ap.jpg

...

You know, I was thinking the exact same thing.

It's an inside demo job, and the BCE's behind it!

C'mon Shark, we've got to get the word out!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Buliding 7 was collapsed because they did not want anyone finding the pre-wired explosives. The flight that crashed in Western Pennsylvania was supposed to hit it, but because it crashed before it could get back to NY, the decision was made to "pull it".

You mean, that's why they called the firefighters out of the building?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
Hey Matt, thanks for bringing the San Francisco freeway collapse into this.......

Within hours, I'd be willing to bet that coverage of this story is "sanitized" by the corporate media, because it in fact verifies what I have been saying all along......

Okay, then check back to see if the story has been "sanitized" then.

Perhaps you can again explain my point as to how media outlets have blown open stories on wireless surveillance but have somehow ignored the biggest mass murder case of the century?


THIS fire burned at 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit. That is 50 degrees higher than what is neccessary to weaken and melt steel, and so it did. The laws of physics at work, as they have always been, and not as Michael Chertoff's cousin tried to rewrite them post 9-11.

But Gee Ford, look what I just found on a conspiracy website:


From: (Psuedo) Physics911.net (http://physics911.net/closerlook)
What About the Fires?

The official story maintains that fires weakened the buildings. Jet fuel supposedly burned so hot it began to melt the steel columns supporting the towers.WRONG!) But steel-framed skyscrapers have never collapsed from fire, since they’re built from steel that doesn’t melt below 2750 degrees Fahrenheit. No fuel, not even jet fuel, which is really just refined kerosene, will burn hotter than 1500 degrees Fahrenheit.


Once again, the jet fuel in the WTC never got anywhere NEAR this temperature, and most of it burned off outside the building.

Bullshit, most sprayed into the building! And the support beams DID NOT have concrete around them, but fireproofing that was blown off upon impact...


Also Matt, you might remember a few years back when a similar fire took place under a freeway overpass in Seattle. That bridge did not collapse, because the support structure was encased in concrete.

As was the support structure of the World Trade Center.

I'd say the BCE's a little nervous right now. Look for this story to disappear faster than a jar of anal lube at Van Squalen's house.

Jesus, can you keep your little war with him over there please?:rolleyes:

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
Hey Matt, thanks for bringing the San Francisco freeway collapse into this.......

Within hours, I'd be willing to bet that coverage of this story is "sanitized" by the corporate media, because it in fact verifies what I have been saying all along......

THIS fire burned at 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit. That is 50 degrees higher than what is neccessary to weaken and melt steel, and so it did. The laws of physics at work, as they have always been, and not as Michael Chertoff's cousin tried to rewrite them post 9-11.

Once again, the jet fuel in the WTC never got anywhere NEAR this temperature, and most of it burned off outside the building.

Also Matt, you might remember a few years back when a similar fire took place under a freeway overpass in Seattle. That bridge did not collapse, because the support structure was encased in concrete.

As was the support structure of the World Trade Center.

I'd say the BCE's a little nervous right now. Look for this story to disappear faster than a jar of anal lube at Van Squalen's house.

LMFAO!!!!

[kastco]

Actually the steel in the towers didn't melt as Rosie the engineer stated. The steel that supported the 2 foot thick cement floors warped. Once it warped it pulled away from the supports therefore allowing the very thick cement fllors to collapse down upon the floors below them. Unlike most conventional building which are built with steel I beams encased in cement, the Twin Towers steel was exposed and gained its strength not from internal cement encased steel but from the outer steel structure. Most of the jet fuel did not burn off immediately. Approximately 30 percent burned off within the first few seconds and upwards of 70 percent poured out into the building, down stairs and elevators etc... Jet fuel, when combined with carpet, wood, paper, a lot of plastic so on and son on, will certainly burn hot enough to warp steel. Most buildings that suffer from fire (without jet fuel) have to have major steel structural repairs. These are buildings that have steel encased in cement unlike the towers that had exposed steel with a thin coating of fire proofing applied. Let me ask you this, if jet fuel and all of the buildings contents couldn't burn hot enough to cause major steel damage than why would they bother to spray fire proofing on it to begin with?

[FORD]

Originally posted by kastco
Let me ask you this, if jet fuel and all of the buildings contents couldn't burn hot enough to cause major steel damage than why would they bother to spray fire proofing on it to begin with?

Because it's theoretically possible that a major fire, burning for a long period of time could reach a temperature of 2.700 degrees, and then the steel would be at risk.

That was not the case on 9-11-01.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/images/9-11%20%203.jpg

This picture shows 2 things very clearly:

1) The majority of the jet fuel in the second plane burned outside of the towers in the huge fireballs seen here.

2) The black smoke coming from tower 1 is an indication of a fire which is starved for oxygen and already burned down to a mere smolder within 15 minutes.

The smoke from tower 2 would also be much darker within minutes after the initial fireballs dissipated. There were no sustained high flame fires inside of the towers, and the temperature inside never came close to what is required to weaken or melt steel.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
Because it's theoretically possible that a major fire, burning for a long period of time could reach a temperature of 2.700 degrees, and then the steel would be at risk.

That was not the case on 9-11-01.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/images/9-11%20%203.jpg

This picture shows 2 things very clearly:

1) The majority of the jet fuel in the second plane burned outside of the towers in the huge fireballs seen here.

2) The black smoke coming from tower 1 is an indication of a fire which is starved for oxygen and already burned down to a mere smolder within 15 minutes.

The smoke from tower 2 would also be much darker within minutes after the initial fireballs dissipated. There were no sustained high flame fires inside of the towers, and the temperature inside never came close to what is required to weaken or melt steel.

Conspiracyplanet? LMFAO!!

Um dude, how do you explain the findings of actual engineers at that BCE bastion, PBS.org? (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/sunder.html)

[DEMON CUNT]

Heads up conspiracy theorists one and all...

It was Saddam and Osama!

Period.

Quit pretending that you know anything about science.

http://www.physics.unc.edu/~reichart/krksmll.jpg

"Spock! Get me a tricorder reading on that smoke... immediately!"

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/images/9-11%20%203.jpg

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
[B]Because it's theoretically possible that a major fire, burning for a long period of time could reach a temperature of 2.700 degrees, and then the steel would be at risk.

Steel is "at risk" and is in danger from weakening with temperatures as little as 400 degrees F.



This picture shows 2 things very clearly:

1) The majority of the jet fuel in the second plane burned outside of the towers in the huge fireballs seen here.
Some fuel is burning is outside of the towers, but it is unsure of how much is burning inside.



2) The black smoke coming from tower 1 is an indication of a fire which is starved for oxygen and already burned down to a mere smolder within 15 minutes.
Dude, with all the firefighting training I've had, I know one thing: Black smoke is an indication of a petroleum-based fire, not one which is burning down to a smolder.


The smoke from tower 2 would also be much darker within minutes after the initial fireballs dissipated. There were no sustained high flame fires inside of the towers, and the temperature inside never came close to what is required to weaken or melt steel. Completely wrong.

[Nickdfresh]

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/
:)

I'm wondering why "Loose Change," the definitive conspiracy film on 911, keeps changing their theories/stories once the "facts" they present are are debunked?

[Seshmeister]

Can you imagine the 'theories' that would be flying around if there wasn't video of the planes hitting the towers?

It would be fucking insane!

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Can you imagine the 'theories' that would be flying around if there wasn't video of the planes hitting the towers?

It would be fucking insane!

Are you sure those were planes?

Who was it you saw flying the planes in this footage?

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Are you sure those were planes?

Who was it you saw flying the planes in this footage?

i like that line of reasoning. and to follow it up, i'll counter with: bush definitively did NOT knock the WTC towers down because they never actually existed at all. optical illusions and angle tricks.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
i like that line of reasoning. and to follow it up, i'll counter with: bush definitively did NOT knock the WTC towers down because they never actually existed at all. optical illusions and angle tricks.

And therefore we are not really occupying Iraq because Sadam worked closely with Osama Bin Laden, both of whom do not exist anyway. All of our soldiers are alive and home with their families, that is if they aren't "optical illusions and angle tricks" as well.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Are you sure those were planes?

Who was it you saw flying the planes in this footage?

FORD used to say they were military planes that fired missiles at the last minute but I'm not totally cuntvinced.

Alex Jones thought they were massive checkbooks...

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
FORD used to say they were military planes that fired missiles at the last minute but I'm not totally cuntvinced.

Alex Jones thought they were massive checkbooks...

Anyone who thinks they got it all figured out is full of shit. Just like the JFK assasination, we'll never know.

That's a good one on Alex Jones.

I do have to admit that his stuff is a total guilty pleasure.

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
And therefore we are not really occupying Iraq because Sadam worked closely with Osama Bin Laden, both of whom do not exist anyway. All of our soldiers are alive and home with their families, that is if they aren't "optical illusions and angle tricks" as well.


if my sarcasm translator's working properly, i agree with you: there was no saddam/bin laden collaboration, such as the bush administration initially tried to portray.


but what happens if the same level of reasoning that led me (and the media, i might add) to debunk THAT story, also leads me to debunk the conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11?


or, is the implication that if i disliked bush before the 2000 election i must obediently agree with any and all possible stories that cast him in a worse light?

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
if my sarcasm translator's working properly, i agree with you: there was no saddam/bin laden collaboration, such as the bush administration initially tried to portray.

Correct. And clearly those responsible, be they Bin Laden or Charles Nelson Riley, are going to get away with it.

So, what the fuck does it really matter anyway?

I absolutely do not approve of the job that Bush is doing. Something tells me that America is getting what she deserves. This is not something that I celebrate, it's something that makes me feel ill.

What do we really know about either one of these guys? History is written by those in charge.

http://www.progresoweekly.com/images/bin.jpghttp://www.geheime-verschwoerung.de/gfx/Image/lee_harvey_oswald.jpg

[FORD]

In all fucking seriousness, what do we really KNOW for a fact about 9-11??

Let's see if we can get a collection of absolute FACTS here. Not the BCE "official story". Not fabrications from Chertoff's cousin or speculation from Alex Jones. Not second hand tales of box cutters from known liars like Ted Olson.

Just the facts. And I'll bet in the end, it's a really short list.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Correct. And clearly those responsible, be they Bin Laden or Charles Nelson Riley, are going to get away with it.

So, what the fuck does it really matter anyway?

I absolutely do not approve of the job that Bush is doing. Something tells me that America is getting what she deserves. This is not something that I celebrate, it's something that makes me feel ill.

What do we really know about either one of these guys? History is written by those in charge.

http://www.progresoweekly.com/images/bin.jpghttp://www.geheime-verschwoerung.de/gfx/Image/lee_harvey_oswald.jpg

Actually, it was Khalid Sheikh Mohammad that did most of the planning...

http://www.militarymuseum.org/Resources/KSMohammed.jpg

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Actually, it was Khalid Sheikh Mohammad that did most of the planning...

http://www.militarymuseum.org/Resources/KSMohammed.jpg

LOL, I can't look at that picture without remembering Roy Munson's hilarious reaction to it - "check out the neck hole on that t-shirt!!"

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Actually, it was Khalid Sheikh Mohammad that did most of the planning...


Who told you this?

[FORD]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Who told you this?

The BCE and the whore media.

But of course this was after the short fat dark skinned guy who looked nothing like Osama Bin Laden supposedly "confessed" in November 2001, so there seems to be some contradictions in right wing fairy tale land.

But then, these are the same people who claim that any "terrorist" captured, killed, or accidentally erased from their hard drive is "Al Qaeda #2", so apparently they are confused anyway.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Who told you this?

The Bush Twins during some hot action...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
The BCE and the whore media.

But of course this was after the short fat dark skinned guy who looked nothing like Osama Bin Laden supposedly "confessed" in November 2001, so there seems to be some contradictions in right wing fairy tale land.

But then, these are the same people who claim that any "terrorist" captured, killed, or accidentally erased from their hard drive is "Al Qaeda #2", so apparently they are confused anyway.

Gee Ford, would that be the same "whore" media that outed the illegal NSA warrantless domestic spying program and excessive of FBI Nat' "Security" Letters, and the Pentagon's collection of information of domestic anti-War groups that have broken no laws?

But I guess the single biggest mass murder by politicians somehow got past 'em? Really?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Gee Ford, would that be the same "whore" media that outed the illegal NSA warrantless domestic spying program and excessive of FBI Nat' "Security" Letters, and the Pentagon's collection of information of domestic anti-War groups that have broken no laws?



The whore media didn't break those stories. They were FORCED to talk about them after months of hammering by independent and/or reliable foreign media (i.e. The Guardian). And even then, the mediawhores didn't take it all that seriously until official investigations began.

[Nickdfresh]

Uh no. Insiders and whistle-blowers went to the reporters with specific details. Everything before was just speculation resulting from the rumors of the "Echelon Program" that were exaggerations...

[Guitar Shark]

Nick, it's not nice to fuck with the insane.

[vh rides again]

Originally posted by FORD
Sesh, you claim to value science over superstition, yet you ignore the facts.

Jet fuel, under the "best" of circumstances, does not come anywhere near the temperature required to weaken or melt steel. If it did, it would melt airplane engines, and then devour the aluminum body of the plane.

And in the case of WTC tower 2 in particular, most of the jet fuel burned outside the building in the massive fireball that we all saw repeated endlessly on TV. So that building had the lower of the two temperatures at the point of impact, yet it fell first.

Tell me, scientifically, how the fuck that makes sense?

George Bush has successfully fooled millions with his lies. But the laws of science aren't going to bend for his monkey ass.

well since man has been working iron he has been heating it up so he could work it, get the shit hot and it bends pretty easy, put 50 floors of concrete and steel on that steel and it bends real easy, as the diamond one says,(it aint rocket surgery).

[FORD]

I see nobody's tried to list the facts that we know about 9-11 yet. Wonder why not?

[vh rides again]

Originally posted by FORD
I see nobody's tried to list the facts that we know about 9-11 yet. Wonder why not? beause nobody knows the complete facts.
its no different than everybody in main predicting tours or whether sammy really did fuck mike up the ass, its all just bullshit, and americans are still dying over it.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
The Bush Twins during some hot action...

You lucky fuck!

[DEMON CUNT]

How many hours passed before the media were broadcasting the names & photographs of the highjackers?

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by FORD
I see nobody's tried to list the facts that we know about 9-11 yet. Wonder why not?


Maybe it's because it's been done a hundred times before on this website and you just wait a month and start again.

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Maybe it's because it's been done a hundred times before on this website and you just wait a month and start again.

we can't win this argument, sesh. ever, i'm afraid.


it's kinda impossible to explain hues to somebody who's completely colorblind.

[FORD]

Originally posted by vh rides again
beause nobody knows the complete facts.
its no different than everybody in main predicting tours or whether sammy really did fuck mike up the ass, its all just bullshit, and americans are still dying over it.

OK, that's a good answer. Although I don't think any Americans have died because Hagar fucked Sobolewski in the ass.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Maybe it's because it's been done a hundred times before on this website and you just wait a month and start again.

Which thread are the facts in, Sesh?

I could pull up dozens of threads with varying theories. speculations, theories about speculations and speculations about theories, but there are very few facts. available.

For example, it's a fact that a large Boeing plane hit the second tower. A dozen TV cameras carried the live feed, and millions watched it happen in real time. Therefore, we have a verified fact, which nobody disputes.

See how easy that is?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by FORD
I see nobody's tried to list the facts that we know about 9-11 yet. Wonder why not?

Ford, you're beginning to sound like Mr. G in that Tom Cruise/scientology thread...

[FORD]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Ford, you're beginning to sound like Mr. G in that Tom Cruise/scientology thread...

Just want to remind people that most of what you take for granted about 9-11-01 is based on nothing but the words of proven traitorous liars. And that's simply unacceptable. It's nearly 6 years after the fact and we know very little about how it happenned. Are we going to let this be like the JFK and RFK murders and let blatant lies stand as the "official explanations"?

[Lqskdiver]

Shit I swore I saw a Discovery special on how the towers fell, who orinally designed them and what were there flaws.

But I guess those kind of 'FACTS' don't interest people like FORD.

It's all a conspiracy, man!

[TongueNGroove]

Fuel can't melt/weaken steel? Did you hear about the fuel tanker truck that melted this bridge in Oakland?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/30/highway.collapse.ap/index.html

[Guitar Shark]

Go back to page 5, TNG... :cool:

[TongueNGroove]

Ahh yep...my bad.

That fact is that anyone who thinks the government was behind 9/11 are just liberal democrats who hate having republicans in charge... If Clinton had been in office when it happened they wouldn't be saying a word about the government having been involved.

[FORD]

Originally posted by TongueNChimpy'sAssGroove
If Clinton had been in office when it happened they wouldn't be saying a word about the government having been involved.

If Clinton had been in office, it wouldn't have happened at all. Because Clinton would have read the 52 goddamn warnings that came in to his office the previous 9 months.

Furthermore, without a PNAC agenda in play, it wouldn't have happened anyway. PNAC tried to sell Clinton their agenda in 1998. He didn't buy it.

[Lqskdiver]

Originally posted by FORD
If Clinton had been in office, it wouldn't have happened at all. Because Clinton would have read the 52 goddamn warnings that came in to his office the previous 9 months.

Furthermore, without a PNAC agenda in play, it wouldn't have happened anyway. PNAC tried to sell Clinton their agenda in 1998. He didn't buy it.

Yeah, just like the WTC bombing in 92 or the Cole bombing both under his watch.

Give it a fucking rest man! Terrorists will strike no matter who's in office. They will find a way and eventually get lucky.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Yeah, just like the WTC bombing in 92 or the Cole bombing both under his watch.


The people responsible for the WTC bombing in 93 were arrested, tried, and convicted under good ol' Constitutional law. As were other terrorists like McVeigh & Nichols, the idiots who blew up and shot up abortion clinics while calling themselves "pro-life", and even unsuccessful terrorists like Ahmed Rassam, whose millenial New Years Eve "celebration" was prevented by a routine border inspection up in Port Angeles.

And there's your answer..... secure the borders to prevent terrorism, use the existing constitutional laws to prosecute them. Don't use fear tactics and complete BULLSHIT to declare "war" on an abstract which cannot be defined, or to shred the constitution and call it "defending freedom". :mad:

[TongueNGroove]

Originally posted by FORD
If Clinton had been in office, it wouldn't have happened at all. Because Clinton would have read the 52 goddamn warnings that came in to his office the previous 9 months.


You think Clinton was never warned about Al Qaeda? What did he do to try and stop them?

Have a look at some of this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Clinton+warned+about+al+qaeda&spell=1

[FORD]

Yeah.... look at those links...

NewsHax, the WEAKly PNAC Standard.... always impeachable sources of journalistic integrity. The Sammy Hagar's of news reporting, as it were....

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by TongueNGroove
You think Clinton was never warned about Al Qaeda? What did he do to try and stop them?

Have a look at some of this http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Clinton+warned+about+al+qaeda&spell=1

Who gives a fuck!

What does this have to do with whether 911 was an "inside job" or the work of disgruntled Saudi Arabians and Egyptians (mostly) with shitty lives?

BTW, Bush was "warned too," that's not the point of this thread, pinhead...

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Shit I swore I saw a Discovery special on how the towers fell, who orinally designed them and what were there flaws.

But I guess those kind of 'FACTS' don't interest people like FORD.


So 'FACTS' come from a television show that you sort of remember seeing?

Would this be all 'FACTS'? Or just your 'FACTS' about the World Trade Center?

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by TongueNGroove
You think Clinton was never warned about Al Qaeda? What did he do to try and stop them?


Ha ha!

But Clinton...but Clinton...But Clinton...

What did Reagan/Bush do about Al-Qaeda? (Careful, trick question.)

How about we discuss the man who was actually the President on 911.

ROTH ARMY FLASHBACK What did the Bush Admin do about Bin Laden/Al Qaeda during those first 8 months? (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40446&highlight=clinton+911+prevent)

I forgot about this one!

[Coyote]

"Building The World Trade Center" (1983) (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4334991174539603857&q=world+trade+center+1983)