The Lamest Cars of all time

[Nitro Express]

The Reliant Robin gets my vote.

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[binnie]

I was gonna say Reliant Robin when I looked at the title of this thread.

Also, see anything made by Ugo....

[thome]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/thome_2006/qtsghghh.jpg

I guess this thing had a aluminum block a first for mass production american or some shit what a piece of crap.

My old man had one new and two years into it he was driving down the street the drivers side axel came unhooked at the differential rolled
out about 1 ft from the side of the car no brakes.
luckilly he was in suburbia and was only doing 25mph .

Chevy gave him another one then my brohter got braodsided by a jaggof flipped it tree times landed on the roof walked away.

and still had time to check on the drunk who T-boned him.
Nice guy my bro, bad car, cursed i said.

I seen one with a blown 396 and 50 Cragers back in the day god it was UGLY.

The Cragers were worth more than this rolling junk.

[hideyoursheep]

This ....

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x119/brakeman_2007/100_5718.jpg

Along with these...


Some folks may dig these Scions, but methinks they're hideous.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x119/brakeman_2007/scion-.jpg

[MAX]

Fuck, those VW "Thing's" were cool!!! lol I'd never own one though.

What about Yugos, Dodge Darts, Plymouth Dusters and so on? Nawww cos fuck it... In a weird way, those cars (excluding the Yugo) were kinda cool. lol

http://u225.torque.net/cars/dodgedart/brochure/75dart1a.jpg


http://www.vintageautoartltd.com/vintage_auto_art_ltd_website_2006020.jpg


Seriously, here's one...

Suzuki Samurai...

http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Subjects/more/images/86_Suzuki_Samurai.jpg

Then again, kina cool in a nostalgic way for me.

Ah Hah!!! Just thought of the biggest pieces of shit ever and I have room to talk cos my brother owned one for a while. In and out of the shop every month. Fucking uncomfortable to drive. You seriously felt like you were sitting on top of a milk crate and ZERO leg room for any backseat passengers. This is truly one of the biggest piece of shit cars ever built!!!

http://images.automotive.com/reviews/images/00lrdiscovery2.jpg

Can't 4x4 for shit either cos it's so fuckin' top heavy. :rolleyes:

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by MAX
Fuck, those VW "Thing's" were cool!!! lol I'd never own one though.

What about Yugos, Dodge Darts, Plymouth Dusters and so on? Nawww cos fuck it... In a weird way, those cars (excluding the Yugo) were kinda cool. lol

http://u225.torque.net/cars/dodgedart/brochure/75dart1a.jpg


http://www.vintageautoartltd.com/vintage_auto_art_ltd_website_2006020.jpg

After '72 you can throw the Darts and Dusters in there...Don't forget about those GTS Darts! Bad ass they were. Ugly, but badass.
Friend of mine still has the GTS- used to be a daily driver in the late 70's- early 80's. Now, not so much. He realizes what he has. ;)

Anybody remember what the hell those ugly ass boat/cars with the propellers were called? Who made them?:confused:

[m_dixon1984]

My Dad owned an AMC Hormet (with the fake woody panels) in the mid to late 70s and it was pure shite. Ugly and useless. He owned it for 3 years and I don't think drove more than 500 miles at a time without something catastrophic happening. We lost a reat axle on the highway on a camping trip one year. Miserable hunk of American scrap metal.

M

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by m_dixon1984
My Dad owned an AMC Hormet (with the fake woody panels) in the mid to late 70s and it was pure shite. Miserable hunk of American scrap metal.

Now nothing is made solely in America.

Nor is it hardly metal.:(

[sadaist]

Remember these?

http://www.museedelapub.org/virt/mp/renault/renault5/graphics/r5dia03.jpg

[binnie]

http://photo.net/photo/pcd0800/citroen-in-florence-37.4.jpg

Old citroens take some beating....

[WhoCares?]

Yeah, the "Le Car" turns into a "Le Coffin" if you get hit with anything heavier than a bicycle

[WhoCares?]

Yeah, the "Le Car" turns into a "Le Coffin" if you get hit with anything heavier than a bicycle

[sadaist]

Originally posted by WhoCares?
Yeah, the "Le Car" turns into a "Le Coffin" if you get hit with anything heavier than a bicycle

LMFAO!

5 stars for that one.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
This ....

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x119/brakeman_2007/100_5718.jpg

Along with these...


Some folks may dig these Scions, but methinks they're hideous.http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x119/brakeman_2007/scion-.jpg

Ha! I saw a white VW Thing two days ago driving around. It had been restored like new and it looked like it needed the Fantasy Island dudes in it.

Those little van things piss me off. They make me want to get a few guys and flip the fucker upside down.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by MAX
Fuck, those VW "Thing's" were cool!!! lol I'd never own one though.

What about Yugos, Dodge Darts, Plymouth Dusters and so on? Nawww cos fuck it... In a weird way, those cars (excluding the Yugo) were kinda cool. lol

http://u225.torque.net/cars/dodgedart/brochure/75dart1a.jpg


http://www.vintageautoartltd.com/vintage_auto_art_ltd_website_2006020.jpg


Seriously, here's one...

Suzuki Samurai...

http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Subjects/more/images/86_Suzuki_Samurai.jpg

Then again, kina cool in a nostalgic way for me.

Ah Hah!!! Just thought of the biggest pieces of shit ever and I have room to talk cos my brother owned one for a while. In and out of the shop every month. Fucking uncomfortable to drive. You seriously felt like you were sitting on top of a milk crate and ZERO leg room for any backseat passengers. This is truly one of the biggest piece of shit cars ever built!!!

http://images.automotive.com/reviews/images/00lrdiscovery2.jpg

Can't 4x4 for shit either cos it's so fuckin' top heavy. :rolleyes:

I have two Land Rovers. A fully restored 1987 Range Rover Class and a Deffender that has seen some hard use. You are right, the Land Rover Discovery is shit and I never considered it worthy of the Land Rover badge. I also inherited my brother's Mercedes G Wagon when he passed away a few years ago. It's a nice off road vehicle as well.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
Now nothing is made solely in America.

Nor is it hardly metal.:(

Spot on! My dad bought an AMC Hornet for my sisters to drive to high school. I was broke down more than it ran. What's funny is I had an AMC Jeep CJ7 for my first car and it never gave trouble. The inline 6 ran so smoothly that you couldn't tell it was on. I sure had some cold ass winters in it though.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by sadaist
Remember these?

http://www.museedelapub.org/virt/mp/renault/renault5/graphics/r5dia03.jpg

A friend of mine had a Renault Le Car in high school. I was a cheesey piece of shit that the trim was constantly falling apart on but man would it go in the snow. It got us up the hill to the ski area on a day that was so bad weather wise, they closed the ski lift down so they could shovel it out!

[rustoffa]

Lee Iakookoo displaying early ideas for the K-car. We had one....complete piece of shit.

http://www.sweetmarias.com/nicaraguaCOE2006/nicaraguaCOE2006-Images/4.jpg

[Diamondjimi]

Two words.....
http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2002/autobodies/images/smartcar.jpg DEATH CAR !!!

[Little Texan]

http://www.spbgu.ru/forums/uploads/post-48-1163598097.jpg

Pontiac ASStec, ugliest car ever made!

http://dvd.tocmp.com/pix/Ford/images/1971%20Ford%20Pinto_jpg.jpg

70's bomb on wheels, Ford Pinto

[MAX]

Originally posted by sadaist
Remember these?

LMAO!!!

Wanna hear something both embarrassing and funny? When I first bought WACF in 1982 (making myself eleven years old at the time) I thought the lyrics to "Take Your Whiskey Home" included the following verse...

"Well that LE CAR in the nightime brings back strange memories..."

Needless to say, it took me a couple more years to figure out that was not the case. Hahahaha!!! :o

[MAX]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I have two Land Rovers. A fully restored 1987 Range Rover Class and a Deffender that has seen some hard use. You are right, the Land Rover Discovery is shit and I never considered it worthy of the Land Rover badge. I also inherited my brother's Mercedes G Wagon when he passed away a few years ago. It's a nice off road vehicle as well.

Sorry bro cos I wasn't putting down the brand at all. I was just speaking from my brother's terrible experience. I had a similar one with a '95 Jaguar XJ6 that I owned a decade ago. It was a beautiful car, it was soooo smooth and fast but that was the rare occasion when it wasn't in the fucking shop. No wonder their resale's so horrible.

Seriously, it seemed like everytime I'd just get something fixed, something new would break!!! Hence, I'll NEVER own another Jag.

Mine was exactly like this except black. Biggest piece of shit.

http://www.upperpeachautosales.com/sitebuilder/images/DSCN1079-537x401.jpg

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by MAX
Sorry bro cos I wasn't putting down the brand at all. I was just speaking from my brother's terrible experience. I had a similar one with a '95 Jaguar XJ6 that I owned a decade ago. It was a beautiful car, it was soooo smooth and fast but that was the rare occasion when it wasn't in the fucking shop. No wonder their resale's so horrible.

Seriously, it seemed like everytime I'd just get something fixed, something new would break!!! Hence, I'll NEVER own another Jag.

Mine was exactly like this except black. Biggest piece of shit.

http://www.upperpeachautosales.com/sitebuilder/images/DSCN1079-537x401.jpg

The quality control on British cars is deffinately hit and miss. I wrench on my own vehicles and I have a good friend in New England that fixes and restores Land Rovers, Jaguars, Rolls Royces, Lamborghiniis, and Ferraris. He also runs one of the few machine shops you are going to trust your expensive Euro aluminum engine block or heads to.

He knows his shit. I had some problems with the Rover's fuel injection system and he nailed the problem. It was a stuck valve on the overflow tank and you have to take the rear quarter panel off to get to it. Another problem on British cars is cold solder joints. Once you fix their shitty wiring problems and understand their crazy engineering, some of their cars are quite reliable.

[Nitro Express]

I still think I have the best Range Rover made. It's on the military Series I frame which is massive. It has the trusty Rover 3.5 engine that just keeps going and going. Instead of a Borg Warner chain driven transfer case I have a Lucas transfers case that is all gears in a constant oil bath and who made the thing for Lucas was Rolls Royce. The running gear is military grade with the axles and differentials housed in welded steel housings. The whole exhaust system is stainless steel.

It's gets treated with Waxoyl every two years so the thing has Zero rust. I just had it repainted, and the seats reupolstered in green leather and the paint is British green. It drives tight like a new car even though it's an 87.

[Nitro Express]

The Reliant K. LOL!
Originally posted by rustoffa
Lee Iakookoo displaying early ideas for the K-car. We had one....complete piece of shit.

http://www.sweetmarias.com/nicaraguaCOE2006/nicaraguaCOE2006-Images/4.jpg

I get ya, but Iacocca in your picture is standing next to a Ford. The Reliant K was a Chrysler product. Anyways I worked for a company in upstate New York that had some in their fleet. We were comming back from a meeting in Canadaigua, New York and I was asleep and another dude was driving. The next thing I know is waking up and seeing corn flaying towards me. The fucker fell asleep at the wheel and we ended up flying through a corn field at highway speed. Damn it was noisey and corn flying everywhere! The car didn't flip but boy did it drive like shit after that. Everyone called it the corn car because it smelled like corn.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by MAX
LMAO!!!

Wanna hear something both embarrassing and funny? When I first bought WACF in 1982 (making myself eleven years old at the time) I thought the lyrics to "Take Your Whiskey Home" included the following verse...

"Well that LE CAR in the nightime brings back strange memories..."

Needless to say, it took me a couple more years to figure out that was not the case. Hahahaha!!! :o

Nightime memories in a Le Car would be a challenge. No room to get laid in one but you could bend her over the hood and romp away.

[Nitro Express]

I had a friend in high school that both his parents were like hippies and he was born in the same hippie commune that Piccabo Streets parents lived in. Anyways he dad was actually a mathmetical geniouse and taught math at the high school and his son drove an old VW microbus his parents had. LOL!

All I can say is the kid wasn't bad looking and he got more ass in that bus with deadhead stickers on that any of us got in our muscle cars.

[Combat Ready]

It's a tie between the AMC Pacer and the Gremlin.

[Nickdfresh]

LOL My old man had a roving dome...

http://www.partaj.cz/imgs/ameriky/AMC/pacer/77amc_06_pacer.jpg

:D

[tajmahal]

Yugo

Pontiac Fiero - Plastick Piece of Crap.


Neon Hi Goodbye!

[Combat Ready]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
LOL My old man had a roving dome...

http://www.partaj.cz/imgs/ameriky/AMC/pacer/77amc_06_pacer.jpg

:D

Yepper---A real American classic!

[Mike-DLR]

hahahaa...this makes me feel better about my '96 mercury sable :)

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
The Reliant K. LOL!

I get ya, but Iacocca in your picture is standing next to a Ford. The Reliant K was a Chrysler product.

I get ya, but I was referring to the piece of shit Ford Granada to begin with. Like, Iacoocoo got all his ideas for the K from the G. The Granada we had was a piece of shit - some kinda nightmarish fake emerald green...like a rolling mood ring with lotsa wind noise. My mom would always go, "is a window open?" I was embarrassed to ride in that car. Our other ride was this Datsun 310 station wagon...it smelled like YZ80 2-stroke oil mix, 'cause that's the way we took my YZ80 to the hare scrambles/motocross track. See, we'd lay the bike on it's side with the back open..gas would leak out, and the fucking car would smell like gasoline for days. I wasn't embarrassed to ride in the Datsun....hell, I'd sit in it in the driveway with the windows up!!!

[thome]

Yah ever ditched -High- school class and drove around and well you know herbalized the the deallio.

We, were in all kinds of cars, never one so "bubblie" as the -moon unit-Pacer. Oh my ! When your inside the car, it's like your REALLY! in the car, quite extraordinary.

Please do not be inside the car at a stop sign, the windows go all the way down, to THE GROUND!!!

People will look across at you at stop signs from other cars the windows start at your hips.. and they will know your -inside- the car... they can see us MAN! They Know were in here !!!

FLOOR IT THEY CAN SEE US!! NO NO man be cool...:dork:

We are in the car ...Yeah but are we really inside or is the car just around us........ thanks dude..... I'm cool now........FLOOR IT!!!

Black Dog cranked..., was the tune of choice 11 hippies in a Pacer.

We are cool ,man no one can see us .


Good Times

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
LOL My old man had a roving dome...

http://www.partaj.cz/imgs/ameriky/AMC/pacer/77amc_06_pacer.jpg

:D

we had a Pacer. AMC loaned a bunch of them out to employees before they were released to the public. mom drove it most of the time, dad still drove the Cherokee.

we always had an AMC around...three or four different CJ's...two different Cherokees...a Hornet...mom bought a Matador wagon when they got divorced, that was the biggest POS of them all. screamin' yellow with the woodgrain.

now i have my old Jeep pickup...and so far it ain't too bad.

i forgot...my cousin had a Gremlin, and my grandmother traded a MINTY BARELY DRIVEN Chevy II on an AMC Concord, which was really a fancy four-door Hornet.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by Combat Ready
It's a tie between the AMC Pacer and the Gremlin.

Ha! I was just waiting and it didn't take long! LOL!

[thome]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/thome_2006/0020060112_1979_6_160717.jpg
Chrysler Cordoba

Over styled, ugliest ride ,ever, jeez it's like the designer took 25 of the highest priced cars in the world cut one part off each duck taped them together and thar she BLOWS!

The one I rode in was so soft we never stopped bouncing up and down .

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by twonabomber
we had a Pacer. AMC loaned a bunch of them out to employees before they were released to the public. mom drove it most of the time, dad still drove the Cherokee.

we always had an AMC around...three or four different CJ's...two different Cherokees...a Hornet...mom bought a Matador wagon when they got divorced, that was the biggest POS of them all. screamin' yellow with the woodgrain.

now i have my old Jeep pickup...and so far it ain't too bad.

i forgot...my cousin had a Gremlin, and my grandmother traded a MINTY BARELY DRIVEN Chevy II on an AMC Concord, which was really a fancy four-door Hornet.

You know, the AMCs weren't really that bad quality wise...

Some of the Jeep Cherokees had problems, but what is funny is that it was the ones that had Chevy 2.8L engines (AMC bought them because they couldn't produce enough).

[twonabomber]

those were the baby (XJ) Cherokees. the big ol' SJ's had mostly AMC engines, some early ones had Buicks. those 2.8's were the worst, but the six out of an 80's Camaro is an easy swap.

the inline six in my Wrangler is an AMC design and those fuckers allegedly run forever. i'm only at 130k though.

it was funny when we were tearing apart the truck to put new floors and rockers in...my dad was saying shit like "there should be six spot welds here, but depending on if it was Monday/Friday/close to quitting time/close to lunch time there may be five spot welds..." and the floor supports on the cab were rust-free, whatever they were treated with is still working. for some 20 year old steel it's pretty clean.

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by thome
When your inside the car, it's like your REALLY! in the car, quite extraordinary.


speaking of extraordinary...the roadster shit crosses the decades!

we had basically every genre of vehicular-based mantra in our old neighborhood...

you know....rednecks in trucks...rednecks in hotrods...freaks in matadors...typical run-of-the-mill socialization.

there's always the dipshit in a roadster though...to this day! back in the old neighborhood...there was this pudgy dude that would cram-pack himself into an OPEL.
http://www.1-18scalecars.com/Opel/Opel_GT_front_quarter.jpg

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by rustoffa
I get ya, but I was referring to the piece of shit Ford Granada to begin with. Like, Iacoocoo got all his ideas for the K from the G. The Granada we had was a piece of shit - some kinda nightmarish fake emerald green...like a rolling mood ring with lotsa wind noise. My mom would always go, "is a window open?" I was embarrassed to ride in that car. Our other ride was this Datsun 310 station wagon...it smelled like YZ80 2-stroke oil mix, 'cause that's the way we took my YZ80 to the hare scrambles/motocross track. See, we'd lay the bike on it's side with the back open..gas would leak out, and the fucking car would smell like gasoline for days. I wasn't embarrassed to ride in the Datsun....hell, I'd sit in it in the driveway with the windows up!!!

What I find horrifying is if I died in that car crash I would have died in a Reliant K car and how fucking lame is that?

[Nitro Express]

My dad had a 1930 Model A Ford with a leaky shut off valve that would drip gas into the passenger compartment. The fumes would give you a headache and please don't light a match!

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by thome
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n189/thome_2006/0020060112_1979_6_160717.jpg
Chrysler Cordoba

Over styled, ugliest ride ,ever, jeez it's like the designer took 25 of the highest priced cars in the world cut one part off each duck taped them together and thar she BLOWS!

The one I rode in was so soft we never stopped bouncing up and down .

That was the car Ricarto Monteban from Fantasy Island and Wrath of Kahn fame used to pimp right? He used to make a big deal that the seats were "Corinthian" leather. Whatever that fucking means. Biblical leather from Greece I guess. LOL!

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by rustoffa
speaking of extraordinary...the roadster shit crosses the decades!

we had basically every genre of vehicular-based mantra in our old neighborhood...

you know....rednecks in trucks...rednecks in hotrods...freaks in matadors...typical run-of-the-mill socialization.

there's always the dipshit in a roadster though...to this day! back in the old neighborhood...there was this pudgy dude that would cram-pack himself into an OPEL.
http://www.1-18scalecars.com/Opel/Opel_GT_front_quarter.jpg

Ha! My older brother drove one and so did the kid nextdoor. They had Opel disease and even worse, the nextdoor kid's mom drove an AMC Pacer! LOL! An Opel and Pacer in the same driveway! Then their favorite tree in the frontyard caught a disease and died. I still swear it was those ugly cars that did the tree in.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
Ha! I saw a white VW Thing two days ago driving around. It had been restored like new and it looked like it needed the Fantasy Island dudes in it.



Used to be a white VW Thing around here that had zebra stripes on it. Or maybe they were tiger stripes, but it was black & white in either case.

I thought those were decent cars myself, but most classic VW's were.

[FORD]

This car wasn't really lame, least not at first..... but God was it ugly.

http://members.fortunecity.com/copcarsite/mbody401.jpg

Dodge Diplomat......

I was working graveyard shift and going to school in the mornings at the time (1987) so when I wrecked my old Nova one morning, I absolutely had to buy another car before I could sleep that afternoon, in order to work the following night. That doesn't leave much time to be choosy.

So I got the car..... drove nice, drove fast (best of all). It was an ex Washington State Patrol car. Still had the spotlight, but no lights or sirens. Unfortunately, it had rubber plugs where the old antenna mounts and rooftop light wiring went in, and thus, the car leaked every time there was heavy rain.

And this being the Pacific Northwest, that happened a lot.

Fortunately, because it was built as a police car, it had vinyl bench seats and all rubber floor mats, which means I could clean up the puddles with a shop vac and not have to worry about moldy carpets.

The car had over 100,000 miles on it, but those were mostly state maintained freeway miles, so the car was not showing it's age.

Wasn't much for picking up chicks, given the ugliness factor, but I could speed by cops at 100 miles an hour on the freeway, and they would look up and WAVE at me, thinking I was one of their own :D

Unfortunately, about the time the car hit 200K it fell apart fast.

Traded it in on a fucking K-car of all things which was even uglier......

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Dodge_Aries_Coupe.jpg/250px-Dodge_Aries_Coupe.jpg

That car was so much of a lemon, it should have been yellow, and it swore me off of Chrysler products to this day.

[blonddgirl777]

A PT Cruiser is a cow... the shit won't accelerate!

[blonddgirl777]

Now why in hell would someone buy a Reliant K ???

I've been hearing some bad revues for over 20 years on that car... Everywhere you go... people just HATE the Reliant K !!!

[blonddgirl777]

God bless America and it's kick ass (great looking) muscle cars but really... when it's time for serious mechanism... Japanese cars rule!!!

Vive la Toyota!!!

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by FORD
Used to be a white VW Thing around here that had zebra stripes on it. Or maybe they were tiger stripes, but it was black & white in either case.

I thought those were decent cars myself, but most classic VW's were.

I didn't know you lived by Ted Nugent Ford. Funny, I didn't think he was a WV type guy but he likes to paint zebra stripes on everything.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Now why in hell would someone buy a Reliant K ???

I've been hearing some bad revues for over 20 years on that car... Everywhere you go... people just HATE the Reliant K !!!

Including me. What's ironic is it's the car that saved Chrysler and things were so bad that Iaccoca was printing the annual report on cheap newsprint to save money. I remember him in commercials begging people to buy a Reliant K because it was their patriotic duty. LOL! The care was basically thrown together out of bits and pieces they had in the factories.

I would take those days over the greedy rape the company CEOS we have now. They drive the company into the ground or outsource everything or get $24 million when they get fired. It makes no sense.

Chrysler paid the US Govt. back early for the loans it got only to be merged with Dahmler Benz. They fired all the Chrysler people including a friend of mine and now they want to sell the company.

The Reliant K being the piece of shit it was did save a company and somes jobs that improved it's product and sadly got raped anyways.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
God bless America and it's kick ass (great looking) muscle cars but really... when it's time for serious mechanism... Japanese cars rule!!!

Vive la Toyota!!!

Very true and this Top Gear episode proves it!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777

Vive la Toyota!!!

Toyota?

reliable, sure...but boring as fuck.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by twonabomber
those were the baby (XJ) Cherokees. the big ol' SJ's had mostly AMC engines, some early ones had Buicks. those 2.8's were the worst, but the six out of an 80's Camaro is an easy swap.

the inline six in my Wrangler is an AMC design and those fuckers allegedly run forever. i'm only at 130k though.

it was funny when we were tearing apart the truck to put new floors and rockers in...my dad was saying shit like "there should be six spot welds here, but depending on if it was Monday/Friday/close to quitting time/close to lunch time there may be five spot welds..." and the floor supports on the cab were rust-free, whatever they were treated with is still working. for some 20 year old steel it's pretty clean.

The rumor I've heard was that GM sent AMC their rejected 2.8s with QC defects...

[twonabomber]

wouldn't surprise me at all.

it's funny...my J20 has GM steering...and Ford ignition...cheaper to buy the parts instead of developing their own.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by twonabomber
Toyota?

reliable, sure...but boring as fuck.

Also true. That's why I never owned one. I drive shit that would cost an absolute fortune if I didn't know how to wrench on them myself.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by twonabomber
wouldn't surprise me at all.

it's funny...my J20 has GM steering...and Ford ignition...cheaper to buy the parts instead of developing their own.

Yup. Ford owns Volvo but they buy engines and fuel injection systems from Fuji Industrial in Japan. What's an American, British, or German car? They all contain parts from all over. Crack open the ECU and see where all the IC's come from. Some are American, Some are Japanese, Some are European.

I have a British car that the seats are from Mercedes which is fine because they are bullet proof, comfortable, and parts are widely available and not as expensive as you would think if you shop around.

[Nitro Express]

With the internet you can find others who own or work on the same vehicle you have. My Mercedes G Wagon stopped running and one guy in Germany told me to jack the rear of the car up and leave it over night and in the morning it would probably start up. Sounded crazy but it worked. Apparently the fuel pump had lost it's prime and this is the easy fix. Who would have ever known and it isn't in the service manual.

[Nitro Express]

Thank's to the internet, getting wierd cars running is easier than ever. The information and parts is easier than ever to find.

[WARF]

How can we forget the fiat strada???

http://www.eggenmueller.de/fiat/fiat_strada.jpg

What a piece of shit... and weren't they made for like a decade or something??

[WARF]

The FORD Bronco II during the 80's were garbage...

http://www.delattres.com/4x4s/84bronco2/84bronco2_01_large.jpg

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by WARF
How can we forget the fiat strada???

http://www.eggenmueller.de/fiat/fiat_strada.jpg

What a piece of shit... and weren't they made for like a decade or something??

Dude, were they even in the US?:D

[twonabomber]

i haven't seen a Fiat in...well...it's been a LONG time. :D

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
God bless America and it's kick ass (great looking) muscle cars but really... when it's time for serious mechanism...
Vive la Toyota!!!

Which ones? The ones made in America?;)

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
Yup. Ford owns Volvo but they buy engines and fuel injection systems from Fuji Industrial in Japan. What's an American, British, or German car? They all contain parts from all over. Crack open the ECU and see where all the IC's come from. Some are American, Some are Japanese, Some are European.

That's not all...the're so integrated, your so-called American or Japanese cars are fom all corners of the globe.


BTW.. Ford is dumping Land Rover, so get yer spare parts while you can. ;)

You guys are awful rough on Lee Iacocca. The K- car helped him help save Chrysler/Dodge/ Plymouth (r.i.p).

But his best idea is still on the road.


http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m73/grumpystina/cars/64mustang1.jpg




He was a victim of the mad rush for the big 3 to make economy cars.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by WARF
The FORD Bronco II during the 80's were garbage...

http://www.delattres.com/4x4s/84bronco2/84bronco2_01_large.jpg

Gag me. I remember those with those ugly rolled back windows. Should have named them the Twinkie Mobile.

[Nitro Express]

Yeah Ford is trying to dump Land Rover but they want to sell Jaguar with it. You have to remember Ford bought Land Rover from BMW a few years ago. The only reason Ford is selling is because they need to raise quick cash to keep opperating. Someone will pick up Land Rover for sure but the big long-term question is the Ford family going to have to sell Ford or close shop? The high cost of healthcare in the US and the UAW forcing Ford to make models that don't sell have made it uncompetative in the world market place.

I think Jaguar will just dissapear. I think as we go into a worldwide recession here in a few years there will be a shakeout of automobile manufactures. We will see a few brands bite it.

[Wawazat]

Originally posted by MAX
I had a similar one with a '95 Jaguar XJ6 that I owned a decade ago. It was a beautiful car, it was soooo smooth and fast but that was the rare occasion when it wasn't in the fucking shop. No wonder their resale's so horrible.

Seriously, it seemed like everytime I'd just get something fixed, something new would break!!! Hence, I'll NEVER own another Jag.

Mine was exactly like this except black. Biggest piece of shit.

http://www.upperpeachautosales.com/sitebuilder/images/DSCN1079-537x401.jpg

Damn i guess you really were unlucky with that car, i owned several used jags a couple of years ago - small purchase cost because of the high fuel costs nobody wanted to buy those - and every car build past 1993 was quite reliable.

[svrwthr]

There are and were alot of shit assed ugly cars today and yesterday but I have to throw out an ugly beast that I learned to drive in when I was somewhere around 12. Bad Assed ugly beast with a 440. Loved the suicide seats of this because that is where the parents kept the cooler full of beer and was a great place to shoot out of back window hunting back woods in northern Wisconsin.
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8839/overheadlb8.jpg

[Wawazat]

Here's stalinsredstorm's automobile:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u109/summni/trabbi.jpg

Commies greatest achievement :D

[svrwthr]

Fucking kick assed when pimped LOX

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2076/pimpedtrabbilolby9.jpg

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by twonabomber
Toyota?

reliable, sure...but boring as fuck.

Not for the Celica...
It's a lot of fun to drive and looks awsome (except for certain years).

My first B-friend owned a Supra... now, that was far from being boring!




But I agree... In general, American cars look better than Japanese ones (a bigger and stronger look with great muscles)...
More my type! ;)

[Nitro Express]

My problem with Japanese cars is the trim inside is always shit even in the Lexus. In fact, try riding in a Lexus when you are 6 feet tall or higher. They are made for little Asian people. Give me a big German car anyday.

[svrwthr]

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2004/01/23/cx_dl_0126featslide.html?thisSpeed=20000

I forgot the vega. Built like a shit brick house though. could go through a brick wall and come out unscathed. You'll be surprised how accurate you all have been so far when you go through that list in link above.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by svrwthr
There are and were alot of shit assed ugly cars today and yesterday but I have to throw out an ugly beast that I learned to drive in when I was somewhere around 12. Bad Assed ugly beast with a 440. Loved the suicide seats of this because that is where the parents kept the cooler full of beer and was a great place to shoot out of back window hunting back woods in northern Wisconsin.
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8839/overheadlb8.jpg

Ha! ha! ha! I love the chopped boat. Someone had too much time and money on their hands. You still could fold the seats down and fuck in it but you wouldn have enough head room for doggy style I'm afraid.