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LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 04:08 PM
So the elected president of Iran wants to show respect and lay a wreath at ground zero.

From the same country who amassed by the thousands in the streets on 9/11 to hold a vigil and pray for us.

So he wants to speak, and answer questions at an American University.

You fucking hypocrites.

And since when did NYPD and the Port Authority have the right to dictate foreign policy?

Let the man speak, and show his repects.

Otherwise, you're just a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

"They hate our freedoms"

"We're spreading freedom to the middle eastt"

What a crock of shit.

DIPLOMACY is the only answer, and here we have one of the "Axis of Evil" extending a branch, and reaching out.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH LETTING THE MAN SPEAK??????????

I know what it is.

You're scared he'll tell you the truth. And the truth scares you right-wing hypocrites.


If non-proliferation in the middle east is the goal, then diplomacy will win over censorship and airstrikes.

Have you learned nothing from Iraq????

Fucking assholes.


:gulp:

thome
09-23-2007, 04:19 PM
You know damn good and well he could care less about laying a wreath at ground zero.

It is a political face time grab in hopes of being denied ,so wierdos can bitch about it.

If he really wanted to he could fly a jet into town pull a ball cap down ,get a izod t-shirt and some dockers and do-it.

Like all the other Mid-East terrorists wandering around this country.

If he showed up anounced big political show stuff he would get his head blown of by any number of people who want him dead even Iranians here in america hate him.

Then he would be a Martyr. Denied he wins, if killed at ground zero he wins.

When I heard about this last week I was ,"not gonna happen" and it won't.

jhale667
09-23-2007, 04:31 PM
Now, now Lounge...;)

http://e.photos.cx/begood-285.jpg


I've heard it suggested that "He only wants to lay a wreath for and say prayers for his fallen terrorists who Killed everyone on 9/11!!! He only wants to spit on the graves of our Brothers and Sisters who died there!" Though I did hear him say (through an interpreter) that he wanted to "pay his respects at the scene of a tragedy" on the Today show Friday morning....

But we really don't know, do we? Doesn't necessary paint us as the "home of the free"....Still, I doubt it's more than a political photo-op for this scumbag...

I mean, have they ever proven the allegation that he was one of the hostage-takers in the Iranian crisis in '80? Because the pictures they showed sure looked like a younger version of him today....:mad:

DEMON CUNT
09-23-2007, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by thome
You know damn good and well he could care less about laying a wreath at ground zero.

It is a political face time grab in hopes of being denied ,so wierdos can bitch about it.

If he really wanted to he could fly a jet into town pull a ball cap down ,get a izod t-shirt and some dockers and do-it.

Like all the other Mid-East terrorists wandering around this country.

If he showed up anounced big political show stuff he would get his head blown of by any number of people who want him dead even Iranians here in america hate him.

Then he would be a Martyr. Denied he wins, if killed at ground zero he wins.

When I heard about this last week I was ,"not gonna happen" and it won't.

Talking Points © 2007 Bill O'Reilly

LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by thome



It is a political face time grab in hopes of being denied ,so wierdos can bitch about it.

.

And once again, Cletus, w'ere playing right into their hands....

:rolleyes:

Even a gimp such as yourself can see that.

But thank you for proving my point for me [again]

The next 40 oz. is on me, and I don't mean the .99 cans either.

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Talking Points © 2007 Bill O'Reilly

LMAO

I was gona say Hannity, but you say potato.....


How dare we allow another sovereign nation's duly-elected President show respect and answer questions.

The fucking gall.

SHUT UP.

SIT DOWN.

WE, BushCO, will tell you what the truth is.

LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 04:39 PM
And by the way.....

Chimpy hates it when Ahmadinnerjacket gives a speech or answers questions.

He can actually form coherent thoughts, and speak in complete sentences...

:gulp:

jhale667
09-23-2007, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
And by the way.....

Ahmadinnerjacket



:lol:

thome
09-23-2007, 05:00 PM
"Gee Wally, I wish I knew more about grown up things and junk and stuff like you do."

Score!

Ps. The first round is always on me.:gulp:

LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 05:12 PM
The Florida Tasing of the Attention Whore...

The Hoopla over the Moveon.Org ad........

The Outrage over dinnerjacket daring to SPEAK......

Thompson claiming dissent = treason.......


Free speech? Ring any bells?


What is it with Cuntservative RePukes and words????

Why the fear of words?

jhale667
09-23-2007, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine

Thompson claiming dissent = treason.......



That alone disqualifies that aged butt-monkey...:mad:

Warham
09-23-2007, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You're scared he'll tell you the truth. And the truth scares you right-wing hypocrites.


Tell what truth?

Blackflag
09-23-2007, 07:37 PM
I'll tell you what I'm sick of hearing: ignorant motherfuckers say that the Constitution only applies to citizens. That's not only contrary to the law, to treaties, and American beliefs...it's contrary to good fucking common sense.

But that's what people would say...that this guy has no freedom of speech.

LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by WAR
Tell what truth?

That it is the Foreign Policy of THIS administration that is the real cause of unrest in the middle east now.

That WE are recruiting more terrorists, and WE are responsible for the mess in Iraq.

That a US Occupational force in the middle of a civil war is NOT the answer to the region's woes.

That we are HYPOCRITES when it comes to nukes in the region.

Gee, isnt Pakistan a stable and responsible ally? :rolleyes:

When it comes to overt threats of violence, it's the US and not Iran banging the war drums.


That Iran has every right to be worried about the UNSTABLE neighbor of their's, Iraq, and what we've done.

He'll be sure to mention that we had no right to invade and overthrow a sovereign nation that never attacked us.


Need I really go on?

:rolleyes:



Believe it or not, WAR, there ARE other viewpoints than AMERICA'S

And we're not exactly the most honorable and reliable allies in the region.

Just ask The Kurds.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
09-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by WAR
Tell what truth?

See? You're such a fucking liar you don't even know what truth is... :D

LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 08:39 PM
:lol:

jhale667
09-23-2007, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine

Believe it or not, WAR, there ARE other viewpoints than AMERICA'S


Even so, doesn't it dawn on those denying him the right to speak that it makes it look like the U.S. Govt. has something to hide?
Other than saying something offensive like "The guys that did this are COOL!" :rolleyes: Which would indeed be annoying, what would there possibly be to be afraid of him saying?

It's like that old Bill Hicks line "Go back to sleep, America---We figured it all out for you...no need to concern yourself.."

Now I almost wanna hear what the little psycho has to say!

LoungeMachine
09-23-2007, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by jhale667
Even so, doesn't it dawn on those denying him the right to speak that it makes it look like the U.S. Govt. has something to hide?


It makes us look fearful...

It make us look petty....

It makes us look like hypocrites.....

It makes us look like we're giving lip-service to FREEDOM


And it elevates him even more.....

May as well TASE him while they're at it. :rolleyes:

knuckleboner
09-23-2007, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by jhale667
Even so, doesn't it dawn on those denying him the right to speak that it makes it look like the U.S. Govt. has something to hide?


no one's denying his right to speech. he just can't go to 1 location. there are literally millions of other locations in the U.S. that he can go to here to speak his mind, just not that 1.

now, personally, my guess is that the reason also has a little something to do with security. it's not like the president of iran is going to just go to Ground Zero and lay a wreath and no one is going to notice. i'd think at least a few new yorkers would be there, many yelling at him. in the least.

the city would have to have a huge police presence out there.


so, if he wants to say something, let him give a press conference. he can say everything lounge says he'll say. (and, not that i trust ahmanadaytollah, but lounge is right.)

Nickdfresh
09-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Anyone see the interview of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on 60-Minutes tonight?

jhale667
09-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
It makes us look fearful...

It make us look petty....

It makes us look like hypocrites.....

It makes us look like we're giving lip-service to FREEDOM


And it elevates him even more.....

May as well TASE him while they're at it. :rolleyes:

:) Agreed.

Best one I've heard so far about it is from Bill Mahr:
"(Ahmadinnerjacket)'s critics are saying 'No, you're trying to exploit 9/11 for political gain... That's RUDY GUILIANI's job!!" :lol:

thome
09-23-2007, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine



And it elevates him even more.....

. :rolleyes:

Maybe in your eyes not mine.

jhale667
09-23-2007, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by thome
Maybe in your eyes not mine.

Oy vey.

Dare I say I think Lounge meant it in a more global sense of the term....:rolleyes:

Nickdfresh
09-23-2007, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by thome
Maybe in your eyes not mine.


What "elevates" him is the mystery created by the wall of diffusion that prevents our interpretation of him a mere human. One that is not some evil, all-powerful Sith...

He's much a like Bush. He's not a stupid man, but an ignorant one easily tripped up and befuddled by any serious interrogations regarding his own rhetoric...

In short, he's an incoherent, populist simpleton. You'd like him!

FORD
09-23-2007, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Anyone see the interview of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on 60-Minutes tonight?

Yes, and now I know who Chimp's "Monica Lewinski" really is.

All this time I was thinking Jimmy Jeff Gannon Guckert, but it's been Scott Pelley all along.

He couldn't have sucked more Chimp dick in an actual gay porn video with the Monkey then he did in that pathetic "interview".

Somewhere in Heaven, Ed Bradley, Harry Reasoner, and Edward R. Murrow are hanging their heads in shame....

FORD
09-23-2007, 10:59 PM
And after watching the interview with Gary Kasparov, I noticed the common thread between the two........

I didn't realize that Ahmadinejad came from a poor, rural background until tonight. Kasparov also, a common guy who got famous by using his brain and playing chess.

Neither of these guys seem to get a break from the corporate fascist elitist "ruling class". Just like the guy who they stole the election from in Mexico. Or the guy they tried to poison in the Ukraine who challenged the election stolen from him and won.

It is truly global fascism that we are all fighting. And 60 minutes helped illustrate that tonight in spite of themselves.

Nickdfresh
09-23-2007, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Yes, and now I know who Chimp's "Monica Lewinski" really is.

All this time I was thinking Jimmy Jeff Gannon Guckert, but it's been Scott Pelley all along.

He couldn't have sucked more Chimp dick in an actual gay porn video with the Monkey then he did in that pathetic "interview".

Somewhere in Heaven, Ed Bradley, Harry Reasoner, and Edward R. Murrow are hanging their heads in shame....

Seriously. WTF are you talking about?

Yes, Pelley asked tough questions. But is it his fault Adej comes across as a waffling douche?

sadaist
09-23-2007, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine

So he wants to speak, and answer questions at an American University.

You fucking hypocrites.

Let the man speak, and show his repects.

Otherwise, you're just a bunch of fucking hypocrites.


Wow, he's not going to speak at the University? Who decided that? Sorry, I watched football all day and didn't pay attention to the news.

WACF
09-24-2007, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Neither of these guys seem to get a break from the corporate fascist elitist "ruling class". Just like the guy who they stole the election from in Mexico. Or the guy they tried to poison in the Ukraine who challenged the election stolen from him and won.

It is truly global fascism that we are all fighting. And 60 minutes helped illustrate that tonight in spite of themselves.

Vicente Fox had his election stolen?

I remember him losing but missed out on that....what happened?

FORD
09-24-2007, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by WACF
Vicente Fox had his election stolen?

I remember him losing but missed out on that....what happened?

No, Vincente Fox is gone. Two other candidates ran in the last election. The liberal candidate won, but the corporatist candidate stole it. It was essentially a Florida 2000 rerun, from bad election software to corrupt court decisions.

FORD
09-24-2007, 04:13 AM
Ahmadinejad: Iran Not Walking Towards War
TEHRAN, Sept. 23, 2007(CBS) The president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, knows how to infuriate the Western world and he did it again last week when he asked to visit ground zero. Ahmadinejad plans to be in New York this week for the U.N. General Assembly meeting.

The man who questions the truth behind the Holocaust is expected to demand, once again, the elimination of Israel.

Source for these comments, Scotty? Something NOT owned by Rupert Murdoch, Conrad Black, or Richard Perle??

60 Minutes correspondent Scott Chimpsucker Pelley spoke with Ahmadinejad on Thursday in the garden outside his office in Tehran. Pelley spoke to the president about America's angry reaction to his plan to visit the World Trade Center site. The president told 60 Minutes, in light of the objections, he wouldn't press for it.


"Sir, what were you thinking?" Pelley asked. "The World Trade Center site is the most sensitive place in the American heart, and you must have known that visiting there would be insulting to many, many Americans."

"Why should it be insulting," Ahmadinajad said.

"Well, sir, you're the head of the government of an Islamist state that the United States government says is a major exporter of terrorism around the world," Pelley replied.

"We obviously are very much against any terrorist action and any killing. And also we are very much against any plots to sow the seeds of discord among nations," Ahmadinejad said. "Usually you go to these sites to pay your respects. And also to perhaps to air your views about the root causes of such incidents."

Ahmadinejad told Pelley the U.S. and Iran could be friends, but 60 Minutes wanted to know about the growing evidence that Iranian weapons and bomb components are being used against U.S. forces in Iraq.

"It is an established fact now that Iranian bombs and Iranian know-how are killing Americans in Iraq. You have American blood on your hands. Why?" Pelley asked.

Established fact?? Established by WHO??

"Well, this is what the American officials are saying. Again, American officials wherever around the world that they encounter a problem which they fail to resolve, instead of accepting that, they prefer to accuse others," the president replied. "I'm very sorry that because of the wrong decisions taken by American officials, Iraqi people are being killed and also American soldiers. It's very regrettable."

"The American Army has captured Iranian missiles in Iraq. The critical elements of the explosively formed penetrator bombs that are killing so many people are coming from Iran. There's no doubt about that anymore. The denials are no longer credible, sir," Pelley pointed out.

"Very good. If I may. Are you an American politician? Am I to look at you as an American politician or a reporter? This is what the American officials are claiming," Ahmadinejad replied. "If they accuse us 1,000 times, the truth will not change."

"Are you saying that it is not the policy of this government to send weapons into Iraq? Sir, forgive me, you're smiling, but this is a very serious matter to America," Pelley said.

"Well, it's serious for us as well. I daresay it's serious for everyone," Ahmadinejad told Pelley. "It seems to me it's laughable for someone to turn a blind eye to the truth and accuse others. It doesn't help. And the reason that I'm smiling, again, it's because that the picture is so clear. But American officials refuse to see it."

Asked if he could very simply and directly say that Iran is not sending weapons to Iraq, Ahmadinejad said, "We don't need to do that. We are very much opposed to war and insecurity…"

"Is that a 'No,' sir?" Pelley asked.

"…by Iraq. It's very clear the situation. The insecurity in Iraq is detrimental to our interests," Ahmadinejad said.

President Ahmadinejad is 50, with a wife and three grown kids. He's the son of a blacksmith, said to be very religious and incorruptible. He was elected two years ago largely by rural and poor voters. Back in the 1980's, during Iraq's ruinous invasion of Iran, he was reportedly an elite Army intelligence officer in the war with Saddam Hussein.

"Mr. President, you must have rejoiced more than anyone when Saddam Hussein fell. You owe President Bush. This is one of the best things that's ever happened to your country," Pelley said.

Geezus, can you take the monkey's cock out of your mouth long enough to imitate a FUCKING JOURNALIST??? :blow:


"Once the dictator was toppled, many people were happy," Ahmadinejad agreed. "But the American government did not appropriately use this golden opportunity. They should have left the Iraqi people to go their own way and to determine their own fate."

But the issue that threatens war between Iran and the U.S. is Iran's determination to keep enriching uranium, even though the United Nations Security Council demands that it stop. Ahmadinejad claims Iran only wants nuclear energy but the Bush administration says he's pursuing a bomb. The International Atomic Energy Agency -- the IAEA -- is trying to resolve the dispute.

In the past, Ahmadinejad has said Iran has 3,000 centrifuges in a line producing highly-enriched uranium. Does Iran have more now?

"No. Our plan and program is very transparent. We are under the supervision of the Agency. Everything is on the table," Ahmadinejad said. "We have nothing to hide."

"It's been hidden for more than 15 years. You've been operating a secret nuclear program. It's nothing-if it's not secret," Pelley remarked.

"Who is saying that?" the president asked.

"Well, the IAEA. You've, in fact, agreed with the IAEA to confess what you've done in secret over the past years. It is not transparent, sir," Pelley pointed out.

"The Agency is supposed to supervise and ask questions and we respond," Ahmadinejad said. "And our activities are very peaceful."

"For the sake of clarity, because there is so much concern in the world about this next question, please give me the most direct answer you can. Is it your goal to build a nuclear bomb?" Pelley asked.

"What are you driving at?" the president replied.

"Simply that, sir. Is it the goal of your government, the goal of this nation to build a nuclear weapon?" Pelley asked.

"What do you think that the nuclear technology is only limited in a bomb? You can only build a bomb with that?" Ahmadinejad said.

"I appreciate the differences, sir," Pelley said. "But the question is limited to the bomb."

"Well, you have to appreciate we don't need a nuclear bomb. We don't need that. What needs do we have for a bomb?" the president replied.

"May I take that as a 'No,' sir?" Pelley asked.

"It is a firm 'No.' I’m going to be much firmer now, in political relations right now, the nuclear bomb is of no use; if it was useful it would have prevented the downfall of the Soviet Union; if it was useful it would resolved the problem the Americans have in Iraq," Ahmadinejad said. "The time of the bomb is passed."

"At the moment, our two countries may very well be walking down the road to war. How do you convince President Bush, how do you convince other nations in the West…," Pelley said.

"What two parties are walking towards war?" the president asked.

"Iran, the United States, Western countries," Pelley said.

"Well, it's wrong to think that Iran and the U.S. are walking towards war. Who says so? Why should we go to war?" Ahmadinejad asked. "There is no war in the offing. Again, this is psychological warfare if you have difference of opinion you can use logic to resolve your differences."

Geezus... imagine that... using logic to resolve differences. Fucking terrorist bastard!! :rolleyes:

Asked what trait he admires in President Bush, Ahmadinejad paused.

"What do you admire about him? Is there anything, any trait?" Pelley asked.

"As an American citizen tell me what trait do you admire?" the president asked Pelley.

"Well Mr. Bush is without question a very religious man for example, as you are," Pelley replied. :blow:

"What religion, please tell me, tells you as a follower of that religion to occupy another country and kill its people, please tell me, does Christianity tell its followers to do that?" Ahmadinejad asked.

"I take it you can’t think of anything you like about President Bush," Pelley remarked.

"Well, I'm not familiar with the gentleman’s private life. Maybe in his private life he is very kind or determined man," the president said.

"I asked President Bush what he would say to you if he were sitting in this chair. And he told me-quote-speaking to you, that you’ve made terrible choices for your people. You’ve isolated your nation you’ve taken a nation of proud and honorable people and made your country the pariah of the world. These are President Bush’s words to you," Pelley said. "What’s your reply?"

My reply is, Chimpy did you rehearse that question IN FRONT OF A FUCKING MIRROR??

"Well, President Bush is free to think as the pleases and to say what he pleases," Ahmadinejad said. "I don’t think that President Bush has said these things. Rather I prefer to think that this is your impression of what the president said."

"I’m quoting the president directly, for the record," Pelley remarked.

"This is a direct quote, so well, this tells me that there is a great divide between us," Ahmadinejad said.

"President Bush has pledged that you will not be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon and will use military force if necessary," Pelley said.

"I think Mr. Bush, if he wants his party to win the next election, there are cheaper ways to go about this. I can very well give him a few ideas so that the people vote for him. He should respect the American people. They should not bug the telephone conversations of their citizens," the president said. "They should not kill the sons and daughters of the American nation. They should not squander the taxpayers' money and give them to weapons companies. And also help the people, the victims of Katrina. People will vote for them if they do these things. What I'm saying, I am being very sincere here. I'm a Muslim. I cannot tell a lie."

"But when I ask you a question as direct as 'Will you pledge not to test a nuclear weapon?' you act, you dance all around the question. You never say 'Yes.' You never say 'No,'" Pelley points out.

"Well, thank you for that. You are like a CIA investigator. And you are…," Ahmadinejad replied.

"I am just a reporter. I am a simple average American reporter," Pelley said.

Yeah.... and I'm Abe Lincoln

"This is not Guantanamo Bay. This is not a Baghdad prison. Please, this is not a secret prison in Europe. This is not Abu Ghraib," Ahmadinejad said. "This is Iran. I'm the president of this country!"

Hey Chimpsucker Scott.... how does it feel when the guy you and the Likud AIPAC blowing media have tried to paint as "Hitler" just made you and the Chimp look like Chumps on live TV?

As God is my witness, there is no hope for this country unless we eliminate these lying warmongering pieces of shit media monopolies

Nickdfresh
09-24-2007, 09:31 AM
So, anyone that's asks tough, legitimate questions to asshole leaders of foreign nations the Bush admin. doesn't like is a "chimp-blower" now?

:rolleyes:

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by FORD


"I asked President Bush what he would say to you if he were sitting in this chair. And he told me-quote-speaking to you, that you’ve made terrible choices for your people. You’ve isolated your nation you’ve taken a nation of proud and honorable people and made your country the pariah of the world. These are President Bush’s words to you," Pelley said. "What’s your reply?"



LMMFAO

Oh, the irony.


:D

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
So, anyone that's asks tough, legitimate questions to asshole leaders of foreign nations the Bush admin. doesn't like is a "chimp-blower" now?

:rolleyes:

meh, I'm with FORD on this one for the most part...

And I like Pelley, too.


I thought he did ask some good questions, and I liked that he held dinnerjacket to straight answers, but....

He did sound at times like he was working for The State Dept, not CBS News.


Just my opinion.....

Nickdfresh
09-24-2007, 10:46 AM
He was also forced into follow-ups because Ahmadinejad would answer the question asked. This made him seem like a "CIA" interrogator. But this also made the Iranian president look like a pussy.

And BTW, Ahmadinejad could have turned the tables on several questions. He could have asked why the US is now arming Iranian anti-gov't groups we once labeled "terrorists." He could have asked what the US gov't would do if an invader took over Canada and threatened us? He could have asked for a specific example of his gov't being a "terrorist-supporter." He could have reminded us that they were fighting al Qaida and the Taliban before we were. And he could have asked why the US supports a "terroristic" Saudi regime...

But he's an easily befuddled, tough talking macho douche that blames everything on the Jews, apparently. In other words, he's a typical middle eastern tin pot cumrag leader that hasn't a clue.

He also reminds me of another President...

No need to "suck his dick" either...

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh


In other words, he's a typical middle eastern tin pot cumrag leader that hasn't a clue.




Not unlike our current "allies" Musharref, Maliki, and Karzai

Guess there's always the Kingdoms of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to look to for a shining example of regimes we support in the region. :rolleyes:

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 11:13 AM
His rhetoric does sound alot like Bush's except for one thing...

Ahmedinerjacket has a much better command of the English language, and can actually string complete sentences together.

Frankly, I fear BUSH more than him...

Bush is much more dangerous to Americans than this schmuck.

Guitar Shark
09-24-2007, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Seriously. WTF are you talking about?



I'm with Nick - I don't understand FORD's position at all, although that's nothing new, lately.

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I'm with Nick - I don't understand FORD's position at all, although that's nothing new, lately.

Did you see the 60 minutes interview?


Back on topic.....

I think the far-right's issue with the duly elected president of one of the most influential countries in the middle east region, is the fact that what Ahmedinerjacket has to say is MUCH more relevent than anything Bush has to offer.

Our country's credibilty in the region is SHIT, and with good reason.

And how are Bush's views more important than any other leader's in the region?


If anyone was protesting Chimpy speaking at Columbia under their "world leaders" forum the righties would be bleating.


FORD's point that Pelley was blowing chimpy at times was pretty obvious to me.

FORD
09-24-2007, 02:18 PM
Right now, Ahmadinejad is taking questions from a hostile crowd at Columbia University. When has Chimp ever taken a single fucking question from any American citizen (let alone a foreign citizen) opposed to his insane policies. You can't even get in to most Chimp events without showing your GOP credentials.

Who acts more like a liar and a coward? DinnerJacket, or the Monkey?

I hope some Jewish students show up at Columbia and grill this guy on his alleged Holocaust & Israel statements. Get him on record as to what he actually said, and not how the Likud spin factory printed it.

Now if only someone could get Chimpy in front of an honest audience.......

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 02:30 PM
doop

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by FORD


Now if only someone could get Chimpy in front of an honest audience.......

e.g. Congressional Impeachment hearings?

:D

It's so funy when anyone in the neutered WH Press Corp even dares to ask a somewhat pointed question to herr Bush.

He scowls, gives the reporter a "eat shit" look, and gets all defensive, cranky, and evasive.

I dare say Bush wouldnt step in front of this same college audience in a million fucking years.

pussy.

:gulp:

I'll say it again.

I HAVE MUCH MORE TO FEAR FROM BUSH, THAN DINNERJACKET.

Dinnerjacket isn't taking away my civil liberties, or threatening to start a third war.

Warham
09-24-2007, 04:06 PM
Iminajihad will never answer those Holocaust and Israel questions truthfully until he's dropped an A-bomb right on top of Jerusalem.

When are the Iranians going to overthrow their government?

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by WAR
When are the Iranians going to overthrow their government?

Funny you should mention that...


It's pretty well known we're ARMING factions in Iran hoping they rise up and overthrow the government.

Irony?

Anybody?

Beuller?

:rolleyes:

Warham
09-24-2007, 04:15 PM
Sounds good to me, since Iran is arming terrorists in Iraq to kill our troops.

The only problem is, who's going to be the new boss.

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by WAR
Sounds good to me, since Iran is arming terrorists in Iraq to kill our troops.

The only problem is, who's going to be the new boss.


:rolleyes:

I see the old 'Ham is back....


If you can't see the irony and hypocrisy in that, you're just not trying...

FORD
09-24-2007, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by WAR
Sounds good to me, since Iran is arming terrorists in Iraq to kill our troops.



Maybe you need to read Ron Paul's website again?

He doesn't believe that bullshit.

DEMON CUNT
09-24-2007, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by WAR
Iran is arming terrorists in Iraq to kill our troops.

They are not the only ones...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/22/blackwater.probe/index.html#cnnSTCText

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 05:27 PM
Overthrowing a dictatorial regime that is arming Iraqi terrorists, Warham?


So now you want to overthrow Bush?

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by WAR
Sounds good to me, since Iran is arming terrorists in Iraq to kill our troops.

The only problem is, who's going to be the new boss.

You relapsed.

You're back on the FOX, aren't you?

No self control.

Just say no!!!

That shit will eat your bain, dude. :cool:

Nickdfresh
09-24-2007, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by WAR
Iminajihad will never answer those Holocaust and Israel questions truthfully until he's dropped an A-bomb right on top of Jerusalem.

When are the Iranians going to overthrow their government?

Followed shortly by 100 Israeli nukes fired at various Iranian targets?

Yeah, sure.:rolleyes:

Let's try to let go of the bullshit talking points...

Nickdfresh
09-24-2007, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
They are not the only ones...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/22/blackwater.probe/index.html#cnnSTCText

And the Iranian arms in Iraq may not be the coordinated effort by the Iranian regime that the Bushies try to make it seem...

There's a lot of speculation that these are rogue Iranian Quds Force (http://www.veteransforamerica.org/articleid/9574) special ops and spies not acting on orders, coupled with private donations...

*interesting article at the link.

Warham
09-24-2007, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Followed shortly by 100 Israeli nukes fired at various Iranian targets?

Yeah, sure.:rolleyes:

Let's try to let go of the bullshit talking points...

What talking points?? I'm only going by what Iran's leader has said.

Retaliation is fine.

But I'll put down a wager that Iran would be the first one to fire.

Warham
09-24-2007, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You relapsed.

You're back on the FOX, aren't you?

No self control.

Just say no!!!

That shit will eat your bain, dude. :cool:

OK, so he's not supplying them with cash and arms?

Which one is it?

Warham
09-24-2007, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
:rolleyes:

I see the old 'Ham is back....


If you can't see the irony and hypocrisy in that, you're just not trying...

No, the old 'Ham is not back.

There's no irony or hypocrisy in my statement that Iran is supportive of terrorists in Iraq.

Warham
09-24-2007, 06:15 PM
Excerpts of Columbia Prez' Iran Comments

By The Associated Press – 56 minutes ago

Excerpts of Columbia University President Lee Bollinger's introduction of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadenijad:

_ On human rights:

The (recent) arrest and imprisonment of these Iranian-Americans for no good reason is not only unjustified, it runs completely counter to the very values that allow today's speaker to even appear on this campus. But at least they are alive. ... Iran hanged up to 30 people this past July and August during a widely reported suppression of efforts to establish a more democratic society. Many of these executions were carried out in public view, a violation of the international covenant of civil and political rights to which Iran is a party. ...

Let's then, be clear at the beginning — Mr. President, you exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator. And, so, I ask you — and so I ask you, why have women, members of the Bahai faith, homosexuals and so many of our academic colleagues become targets of persecution in your country?

_ On the Holocaust:

In a December 2005 state television broadcast, you described the Holocaust as the fabricated legend. One year later you held a two-day conference of Holocaust deniers. For the illiterate and ignorant this is dangerous propaganda. When you come to a place like in this makes you quite simply ridiculous. You are either brazenly provocative or astonishingly uneducated. ... The truth is that the Holocaust is the most documented event in human history. ... Will you cease this outrage?

_ On Israel:

Twelve days ago you said that the state of Israel cannot continue its life. This echoed a number of inflammatory statements you have delivered in the past two years including in October 2005, you said that Israel should be wiped off the map, quote-unquote. ... Personally I have spoken out in most forceful terms against proposals to boycott Israeli scholars and universities, saying that such boycotts might as well include Columbia. More than 400 college and university presidents in this country have joined in that statement. My question then is, do you plan on wiping us off the map, too?

_ On proxy war against the U.S. in Iraq:

A number of Columbia graduates and current students are among the brave members of our military who are serving or have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. ... Can you tell them and us why Iran is fighting a proxy war in Iraq by arming Shia militia targeting and killing U.S troops?

_ On Iran's nuclear program:

Why does your country continue to refuse to adhere to international standards for nuclear weapons verification in defiance of agreements that you have made with the U.N. nuclear agency? And why have you chosen to make the people of your country vulnerable to the effects of international economic sanctions and threaten to engulf the world in nuclear annihilation?

_ In summary:

Frankly, and in all candor, Mr. President, I doubt that you will have the intellectual courage to answer these questions, but your avoiding them will in itself be meaningful to us. I do expect you to exhibit the fanatical mindset that characterizes so much of what you say and do.

Nickdfresh
09-24-2007, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by WAR
What talking points?? I'm only going by what Iran's leader has said.

When? When did he say this?


Retaliation is fine.

But I'll put down a wager that Iran would be the first one to fire.

Why? If so, why have they not used their extensive arsenal of chemical weapons on Israel yet?

It's all scaremongering bullshit based on semantics and misinterpretation of hyperbolic statements designed for domestic political consumption...

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 06:24 PM
QUESTION, WAR:

IF THE CROWN PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA WISHED TO SPEAK AT COLUMBIA, WOULD YOU OBJECT?

:gulp:

Warham
09-24-2007, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
QUESTION, WAR:

IF THE CROWN PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA WISHED TO SPEAK AT COLUMBIA, WOULD YOU OBJECT?

:gulp:

When did I object to Iran's president speaking? I don't remember uttering that anywhere here.

I have no problem with him coming here if he wants. He was roundly criticized after his speech today. He only looks more foolish afterwards.

If the Saudis want to come here, they are welcome too.

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 06:46 PM
The Saudis are sending terrorists into Iraq to kill Americans.

Warham
09-24-2007, 06:50 PM
Bush is being hypocritical then. He should be going after both Iran and Saudi Arabia. Economic sanctions, etc.

LoungeMachine
09-24-2007, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by WAR

Originally posted by WAR
Bush is being hypocritical then. He should be going after both Iran and Saudi Arabia. Economic sanctions, etc. .

Originally posted by WAR
Bush is being hypocritical then. He should be going after both Iran and Saudi Arabia. Economic sanctions, etc.


:D :cool:

:gulp:

thome
09-24-2007, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
The Saudis are sending terrorists into Iraq to kill Americans.

You seem to use that statement as a tool to avoid the fact that Iran is .

Exactly the same way tha Pres of Iran said -why don't people fund for more research in the direction that the holocaust never happend-.
"Some people believe that."

When he was confronted on the fact that he has stated on record many times that the Holocaust is a lie.

There are no Homosexuals in Iran.

Women are 50% of the 90% of people who vote in Iran.

We are not sending arms and terrorist into Iraq to used against Americans but 90% of the IED's and assorted type of things are coming from Iran, we aren't sending them into Iraq from Iran.

Well you wanted MR. "More Intelectually Worth Listening to than Bush".

You got one of the most Idiotic Lieing retards I have ever heard speak in my life.

All of his stupid BS stories work well in the land of the uninformed.

The president of -Irans Game is Weak- .

Nickdfresh
09-24-2007, 09:06 PM
I wonder if he brought Gypsy Tears to ward off AIDS?


Shit! I wonder if Thome uses Gypsy tears to ward off AIDS?