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lucky wilbury
05-20-2004, 01:07 AM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38565

Bill Cosby: Blacks can't speak English
NAACP leaders stunned by remarks of prominent comedian

Posted: May 20, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

In the presence of NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and other African-American leaders, comedian Bill Cosby took aim at blacks who don't take responsibility for their economic status, blame police for incarcerations and teach their kids poor speaking habits.

Cosby made his remarks at a Constitution Hall event in Washington Monday night commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education decision that paved the way for integrated schools, reported Richard Leiby in his Reliable Source column for the Washington Post.

Leiby said Cosby's remarks were met with "astonishment, laughter and applause."

When Cosby finally concluded, Leiby said, Mfume, Howard University President H. Patrick Swygert and NAACP legal defense fund head Theodore Shaw came to the podium looking "stone-faced."

Shaw told the crowd most people on welfare are not African American. He insisted many of the problems his organization addresses among blacks are not self-inflicted.

Cosby said, according to Leiby: "Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids – $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'

He added: "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. ... You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"

The Post said Cosby also targeted imprisoned blacks.

"These are not political criminals," he said. "These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, [saying] 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"

Sarge
05-20-2004, 01:57 AM
that is great!

twonabomber
05-20-2004, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by lucky wilbury

Shaw told the crowd most people on welfare are not African American.

i don't know what fucking planet that guy lives on...

Xocolatl
05-20-2004, 03:10 AM
Ah axe you, who get up in dat bruddah's face? He be a hater, yo. "Pudding in a cloud" my ass.

(ROTFL, two snaps for Dr. Cosby, right f*cking on!)

Mr Grimsdale
05-20-2004, 05:18 AM
Spot on - but the title is misleading because Mr Cosby clearly CAN speak English. If only more people ethnic backgrounds took the same line things would be better.

Golden AWe
05-20-2004, 07:17 AM
What was that grate agent show he starred on in the 60's? It was almost better than Charlie's Angels...

twonabomber
05-20-2004, 10:04 AM
I Spy. not the shitty movie version.

Xocolatl
05-21-2004, 04:54 AM
Costarring Robert Culp.

Golden AWe
05-21-2004, 07:36 AM
Thanks guys!

WACF
05-26-2004, 12:53 PM
Someone forgot to tell him you can't say this kind of stuff....people don't like the truth.

Full Bug
05-26-2004, 01:19 PM
Wat rong wit peeple who aint got none good english? dont git et......

DaveIsKing
05-26-2004, 01:32 PM
GOOD FOR BILL COSBY.

He is bullseye ACCURATE. Fuck those "offended" by his remarks. I am sick of people wearing their feelings on their shoulders.

Fuck'em!

GO BILL!!!!!!

Full Bug
05-26-2004, 01:39 PM
It cant be Cosby talking, with him "Hell" would be a swear word, thats a first for him.....

Mezro
05-27-2004, 06:48 PM
I wonder if Bill made his "Jello Pudding" face while addressing the crowd.

Mezro..Bill is right

lucky wilbury
05-28-2004, 01:18 AM
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11810453&BRD=1077&PAG=461&dept_id=237827&rfi=6

Bill Cosby Stands Behind Critical Comments

Photo by Brenda J. Turner/KACOM Media Services

WASHINGTON - Comedian Bill Cosby has declined to retract remarks that were highly critical of "the lower economic" African-Americans that he claims are willing to pay $500 for sneakers but not half that amount for educational tools.

At ceremonies here last week commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision outlawing "separate but equal" schools, Cosby's remarks caught many in the audience by surprise.

With NAACP President Kwesi Mfume, NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund President Ted Shaw and many other Black dignitaries looking on, Cosby complained that "the lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal."

He said, "These people are not parenting. They are buying things for their kids - $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'...They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: Why you ain't,' Where you is'...And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk...Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads...You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth."


In Atlanta on Sunday, author and cultural critic Michael Eric Dyson called Cosby wrong for using the fund raiser to criticize poor people. While acknowledging Cosby's generous philanthropy to historically black institutions, Dyson said a better use of the platform would have been to criticize national public policy for failing to give poor people enough support.

Cosby cited a 50 percent dropout rate for Blacks. However, according to the National Center for Education Statistics, the dropout rate for African-Americans was 13.1 percent in 2000, the last year for which statistics are available.

Cosby's comments about education were made in the larger context of African-Americans having to struggle to desegregate schools 50 years ago and seeing many youth today who will not take advantage of those sacrifices. He pleaded with those present to take back the Black community.

The comedian declined to acknowledge the existence of political prisoners.

"These are not political criminals," he said. "These are people going around stealing Coca Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake, and then we run out and we are outraged, saying 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"

Cosby claims that some of his comments were taken out of context. Excerpts of the remarks can be heard on the Washington Post's Web site, www.washingtonpost.com, and it appears that Cosby was quoted accurately.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel columnist Eugene Kane wrote a column noting that like Cosby, he was born in North Philadelphia and attended Temple University.

"Given his record as a philanthropist who had donated millions to black colleges and black causes in general, Cosby has certainly earned the right to speak his mind." He continued, "Still, there's a sense of uneasiness whenever somebody like Cosby uses the same language some whites use to justify their racism....Particularly, the idea that poor blacks and their children weigh down the rest of society, or that every black person behind bars deserves to be incarcerated. Sure, some blacks may fit that description, not all. Some white people, too."

Kane wrote, "He's not a poor Black mother raising children in the inner city, so he has no idea how difficult that is in 2004 America. And if the TV star really wants to pass moral judgments on poor black women, ahem, Mr. Cosby, there is a little matter of you having an out-of-wedlock child yourself."

After reading the column, Cosby telephoned Kane. The columnist said that in an hour-long discussion, Cosby explained that he did not intend to smear all poor Blacks.

"I didn't say all black people from the lower classes were to blame," Kane said Cosby told him. "But I said that when you have a 50 percent graduation rate, and some people can't put two sentences together, and can't write or spell...you've got people who have put themselves on a track to failure."

As for Autumn Jackson, who claims to be Cosby's out-of-wedlock daughter, the comedian told Kane that she has repeatedly refused his offer to take a paternity test.

In the interview with Kane, Cosby deplored the glorification of a pimp mentality, placing more emphasis on athletics than academics and celebrating rap videos on BET.

"I am talking about parenting. It is time for us to turn the mirror around. We have to take back the neighborhood."

And he reiterated his comment about the misuse of the English language.

"We can't excuse these people," Cosby said. "There are generations who have been born here and their English is worse than Koreans who have just been here a few years."



The following are additional excerpts from Cosby's speech:

"I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit. Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol? And where is the father? . . .

"The church is only open on Sunday and you can't keep asking Jesus to do things for you. You can't keep saying that God will find a way. God is tired of you," Cosby declared to loud applause.

"I wasn't there when God was saying it, I am making this up, but it sounds like what God would say. In all of this work we can not blame white people. White people don't live over there; they close up the shop early. The Korean ones don't know us well enough, so they stay open 24 hours."

On fashion: "People putting their clothes on backwards: Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong? . . . People with their hats on backwards, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something, or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up? Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up to the crack and got all type of needles [piercings] going through her body? What part of Africa did this come from? Those people are not Africans; they don't know a damn thing about Africa.

"With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail. Brown versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem. We have got to take the neighborhood back. We have to go in there -- forget about telling your child to go into the Peace Corps -- it is right around the corner. They are standing on the corner and they can't speak English."

On sports heroes: "Basketball players -- multimillionaires -- can't write a paragraph. Football players -- multimillionaires -- can't read. Yes, multimillionaires. Well, Brown versus Board of Education: Where are we today? They paved the way, but what did we do with it? That white man, he's laughing. He's got to be laughing: 50 percent drop out, the rest of them are in prison."

On teenage sex: "Five, six children -- same woman -- eight, 10 different husbands or whatever. Pretty soon you are going to have DNA cards to tell who you are making love to. You don't know who this is. It might be your grandmother. I am telling you, they're young enough! Hey, you have a baby when you are 12; your baby turns 13 and has a baby. How old are you? Huh? Grandmother! By the time you are 12 you can have sex with your grandmother, you keep those numbers coming. I'm just predicting. . . .

"What is it -- young girls getting after a girl who wants to remain a virgin? Who are these sick black people and where do they come from and why haven't they been parented to shut up? This is a sickness, ladies and gentlemen."

tobinentinc
05-28-2004, 01:41 AM
Finally someone who can speak the truth and not be called racist. Thank You Bill Cosby, not only for ur comedy, but for your unbiased stating of the fact about you're own race.

DaveIsKing
05-28-2004, 02:19 AM
As this redneck I knew (you know PERFECT Englishman) said once, "It's THEM Old ******s...they RURNT everythAng."

Viking
05-29-2004, 09:14 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, :D, but it's good to see the man calling a spade, a spade. :killer: :killer: :killer: :killer: