GOP chair 'appalled' by 'Magic Negro' CD

[kwame k]

Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan issued a statement Saturday distancing the party’s leadership from one of the GOP’s best-known operatives, Chip Saltsman, who distributed a CD containing “Barack the Magic Negro” as part of his campaign to be elected chairman of the Republican National Committee next month.

Duncan, who has served the campaigns of five presidents dating back to Richard Nixon, is seeking reelection as the party’s 60th chairman in a hotly contested race that includes Saltsman and several other viable candidates.

Saltsman, 40, was former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee’s campaign manager during the Republican presidential primaries.

Saltsman sent Republican National Committee members, who will choose the next chairman, a CD by conservative political satirist Paul Shanklin, “We HATE the USA.” It contains the controversial track, which was popular on conservative radio. Shanklin’s Web site promises “absolutely the best parodies in talk radio.”

Duncan's statement, in full: "The 2008 election was a wake-up call for Republicans to reach out and bring more people into our party. I am shocked and appalled that anyone would think this is appropriate as it clearly does not move us in the right direction."

Saltsman’s candidacy for national party chair is endorsed by Huckabee and fellow Tennessean Bill Frist, the former Senate majority leader.

Saltsman defended his song selection to The Hill’s Reid Wilson, who first reported the gift.

“Paul Shanklin is a longtime friend, and I think that RNC members have the good humor and good sense to recognize that his songs for the Rush Limbaugh show are light-hearted political parodies,” Saltsman told The Hill.

Saltsman’s marketing campaign comes as Republicans grapple with ways to offer a counterpoint to President-elect Obama at a time when the country is largely supportive of his appointments and policies.

The national GOP ticket lost badly in November among many growing voter groups – including young people, Hispanics and suburbanites. Party officials says that a voter base consisting of the South plus social conservatives is not a dependable way to win elections.

In the “Republican Plan for Victory” that is Saltsman’s platform in the chairman’s race, he writes: “I believe that countering an emboldened Democratic Party, led by the Obama-Reid-Pelosi troika, requires an aggressive national strategy. This campaign’s message cannot depend upon traditional media outlets or communication methods. It will require building upon new media and developing and mastering new tactics.”

The disclosure by The Hill was met with an odd silence from Republican leaders. The story was posted at 12:10 p.m. on Friday, was quickly picked up by Talking Points Memo, and for a time was the banner headline on The Huffington Post, later replaced by Israeli’s strikes on Gaza.

Duncan issued his statement after Politico noted the party’s 22-hour silence.

Politico has exchanged e-mails with an aide to Saltsman, and will post a response when it arrives.

Saltsman is a former development director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and was elected chairman of the Tennessee Republican Party in 1998.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081227/pl_politico/16876;_ylt=AiZgMQKPi4Bac2rJrEO_wmSyFz4D

[kwame k]

Wow......now that's how you bring more members/voters to your party. Racist, Redneck hits......Cd coming to a KKK rally near you.

[bueno bob]

Saltsman’s candidacy for national party chair is endorsed by Huckabee and fellow Tennessean Bill Frist, the former Senate majority leader.

Saltsman defended his song selection to The Hill’s Reid Wilson, who first reported the gift.

“Paul Shanklin is a longtime friend, and I think that RNC members have the good humor and good sense to recognize that his songs for the Rush Limbaugh show are light-hearted political parodies,” Saltsman told The Hill.

This doesn't surprise me at all. Might as well just come out and call him a evil ****** and be done with it.

Fuckin' A.

[hideyoursheep]

Why am I not suprised by any of this?

[bueno bob]

Why am I not suprised by any of this?

Because they're thinly veiled racist fucks?

[Nickdfresh]

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[sadaist]

Racist, Redneck hits......Cd coming to a KKK rally near you.


Might as well just come out and call him a evil ****** and be done with it.



Because they're thinly veiled racist fucks?


"Magical negro - The magical negro (sometimes called the mystical negro or magic negro) is a supporting, often mystical stock character in fiction who, by use of special insight or powers, helps the white protagonist get out of trouble."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro


Anyone have the lyrics to the song? It might be a good idea to know what we're bashing and not do it solely because the word "negro" is in the title. None of these examples caused an uproar...

United Negro College Fund
Negro Educational Review [Magazine]
The New Negro : Voices of the Harlem Renaissance (Paperback)
Negro: An Anthology (Paperback)
We Are the Ship: The Story of Negro League Baseball (Hardcover)
The Mis-Education of The Negro (Paperback)

By the way, just saw Obama on the cover of Ebony magazine, and I recall during the campaign Michelle was on the cover of it as well. If the McCain's were on the cover of Ivory magazine, they would be branded as white supremacists.



http://www.uncf.org/

http://oma.osu.edu/vice_provost/ner/index.html

http://www.amazon.com/New-Negro-Voices-Harlem-Renaissance/dp/0684838311/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-9

http://www.amazon.com/Negro-Anthology-Nancy-Cunard/dp/0826408621/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Ship-League-Baseball/dp/0786808322/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-5

http://www.amazon.com/Mis-Education-Negro-Carter-G-Woodson/dp/0979905222/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-3

[Nickdfresh]

"Magical negro - The magical negro (sometimes called the mystical negro or magic negro) is a supporting, often mystical stock character in fiction who, by use of special insight or powers, helps the white protagonist get out of trouble."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro


Anyone have the lyrics to the song? It might be a good idea to know what we're bashing and not do it solely because the word "negro" is in the title. None of these examples caused an uproar...

United Negro College Fund
Negro Educational Review [Magazine]
The New Negro : Voices of the Harlem Renaissance (Paperback)
Negro: An Anthology (Paperback)
We Are the Ship: The Story of Negro League Baseball (Hardcover)
The Mis-Education of The Negro (Paperback)

By the way, just saw Obama on the cover of Ebony magazine, and I recall during the campaign Michelle was on the cover of it as well. If the McCain's were on the cover of Ivory magazine, they would be branded as white supremacists.



http://www.uncf.org/

http://oma.osu.edu/vice_provost/ner/index.html

http://www.amazon.com/New-Negro-Voices-Harlem-Renaissance/dp/0684838311/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-9

http://www.amazon.com/Negro-Anthology-Nancy-Cunard/dp/0826408621/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/We-Are-Ship-League-Baseball/dp/0786808322/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-5

http://www.amazon.com/Mis-Education-Negro-Carter-G-Woodson/dp/0979905222/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230458719&sr=1-3

The above is meaningless tripe....and spare us your political correctness horseshit after you just got done complaining in a thread that you found offensive to organized religion...

Those were organizations all started before the 1940s, when Negro was considered far enough away from "******" to be acceptable...

Secondly, the idiotic gimmick is specifically referring to Obama's race and implying that he is somehow "special." Did anyone ever start a "Bush, the Magic Whitey" CD?

[DEMON CUNT]

Wow, research. I like it when you fellers put some effort into your posts. Keep it up!

Sadass, you should go ahead and listen to the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ

[sadaist]

Those were organizations all started before the 1940s, when Negro was considered far enough away from "******" to be acceptable...

Secondly, the idiotic gimmick is specifically referring to Obama's race and implying that he is somehow "special." Did anyone ever start a "Bush, the Magic Whitey" CD?

So it's ok to continue using the word because these organizations are somehow grandfathered in? Please explain the criteria for use of the word.

Bush the Stupid Conspirator Murdering Monkey? err....Chimpy.

Why is this worse than any of the other terms frequently used around here.
Mush Limbaugh
Moosealini
Magic Negro Barack
Chimpy
Sped Van Heineken
Not to mention about a million for Sammy Hagar.

[sadaist]

Wow, research. I like it when you fellers put some effort into your posts. Keep it up!

Sadass, you should go ahead and listen to the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ

Well DC, if you put half as much effort into your posts as you do into coming up with ways to change my name, you would see that the song writer was making a parody from an LA Times article. He sang as if he were Al Sharpton, also mentioned in the article. In fact, pretty much everything in the song was taken directly from it. Where was the outrage when they printed the article? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that they are a liberal paper & supported Obama would it?

Oh hey, looks like the LA Times did as much research on the word as this feller right here too.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center

[kwame k]

The point is the Repukes are trying to rebuild their base. So to use the term "Politically Correct" would apply if they are trying to bring Americans back to their party. A song parody is not the issue.......if some spoon fed, brain dead, ditto head wants to listen to those songs and Rush's bullshit, hey it's America, knock yourself out.

For the 2nd biggest political party to have a prospective leader of their party passing this shit out, unacceptable. The Republican party is not supposed to endorse or even have the appearance of being bias or racist, period. Nor are the Democrats.

I find this funny and indicative of how far out of touch the Party of Jefferson and Lincoln has become. *Insert ironic Jefferson comment here*

[DEMON CUNT]

Well DC, if you put half as much effort into your posts as you do into coming up with ways to change my name, you would see that the song writer was making a parody from an LA Times article. He sang as if he were Al Sharpton, also mentioned in the article. In fact, pretty much everything in the song was taken directly from it. Where was the outrage when they printed the article? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that they are a liberal paper & supported Obama would it?

Oh hey, looks like the LA Times did as much research on the word as this feller right here too.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center

Golly gee, Sadass.

There is all kindsa info and stuff out there on the world wide interwebs! One might even be able to find a link to the song in question and give it a listen before one comments on it.

I am pleased to see that you took the time to get caught up with the rest of us.

Gasp! You did the same research as some liberal rag newspaper? What are you, some kinda communist?

[hideyoursheep]

*Insert ironic Jefferson comment here*
"Where all the black women at?"


:sex:



:D

[kwame k]

:cato2: thank you!

[Nickdfresh]

So it's ok to continue using the word because these organizations are somehow grandfathered in? Please explain the criteria for use of the word.

Um, the word is being used in a connotation that focuses on, and makes an issue, of his being (half) black....


Bush the Stupid Conspirator Murdering Monkey? err....Chimpy.

But we're not talking about his race...just the fact that he's a demonstrable idiot...


Why is this worse than any of the other terms frequently used around here.
Mush Limbaugh

I prefer Douche Limpdick...


Moosealini
Magic Negro Barack
Chimpy
Sped Van Heineken
Not to mention about a million for Sammy Hagar.

Um, only one of the above actually is used in a connotation that implies that Obama is a "special" negro...

[sadaist]

Golly gee, Sadass.

There is all kindsa info and stuff out there on the world wide interwebs! One might even be able to find a link to the song in question and give it a listen before one comments on it.

I am pleased to see that you took the time to get caught up with the rest of us.

Gasp! You did the same research as some liberal rag newspaper? What are you, some kinda communist?


Roth Army Rule #1

Q: If you can't argue a post what do you do?

A: Attack person who posted.

Seems about right for around here.

[FORD]

Roth Army Rule #1

Q: If you can't argue a post what do you do?

A: Attack person who posted.

Seems about right for around here.

Says the guy defending Sammy Hagar :hagar1:

[Terry]

Says the guy defending Sammy Hagar :hagar1:


Sammy Hagar is a magic negro?!

Sorry, just got here...what's the topic again?

[DEMON CUNT]

Roth Army Rule #1

Q: If you can't argue a post what do you do?

A: Attack person who posted.

Seems about right for around here.

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[FORD]

Peter Yarrow
Posted December 28, 2008 | 02:16 PM (EST)

My Response to the Mean-Spirited "Barack the Magic Negro"


The sending of a Christmas greeting by Chip Saltsman to the members of the Republican National Committee that includes a recording of the so-called parody, "Barack the Magic Negro" is not only offensive, it is shocking and saddening in the extreme. It flies in the face of America's deeply held hope for a new era in which common ground and mutual respect characterize the exchanges between our national leaders.

I and my co-writer of "Puff," Lenny Lipton, have been eagerly awaiting an end to the mean-spiritedness, outright disrespect and bigotry that was commonplace prior to this last presidential election. What might have been wearily accepted as "the way it was" in the campaign, is now unacceptable. Obama is not a candidate. He is the President-Elect, and this song insults the office of the Presidency, the people who voted for him, as well as those who did not -- and taking a children's song and twisting it in such vulgar, mean-spirited way, is a slur to our entire country and our common agreement to move beyond racism.

It is almost unimaginable to me that Chip Saltzman who sent the CD, would seriously be considered for the top post of the Republican National Committee. Puff, himself, if asked, would certainly agree.

Link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-yarrow/my-response-to-the-mean-s_b_153808.html)

[LoungeMachine]

Roth Army Rule #1

Q: If you can't argue a post what do you do?

A: Attack person who posted.

Seems about right for around here.

ARMY Rule #2

If you know about rule #1, don't bother whining about it....

:gulp:

[sadaist]

Peter Yarrow
Posted December 28, 2008 | 02:16 PM (EST)

this song insults the office of the Presidency, the people who voted for him, as well as those who did not --

and taking a children's song and twisting it in such vulgar, mean-spirited way, is a slur to our entire country and our common agreement to move beyond racism.


Link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-yarrow/my-response-to-the-mean-s_b_153808.html)


So you can't insult the President elect or the people who voted for him? Does George W. Bush, his supporters, and the last 8 years ring a bell?

Childrens song? About dope?

Sometimes I think you guys post this stuff knowing the absurdity of it all and trying to see how much of a commotion you can stir up.

[FORD]

So you can't insult the President elect or the people who voted for him? Does George W. Bush, his supporters, and the last 8 years ring a bell?

Childrens song? About dope?

Sometimes I think you guys post this stuff knowing the absurdity of it all and trying to see how much of a commotion you can stir up.

Peter Yarrow (as in Peter, Paul, and Mary) wrote the fucking song. I think he's got the right to criticize someone's shitty racist parody of it. And no, it wasn't a song about dope. Though I wouldn't be surprised to find out he smoked some just before writing it.

[sadaist]

Peter Yarrow (as in Peter, Paul, and Mary) wrote the fucking song. I think he's got the right to criticize someone's shitty racist parody of it. And no, it wasn't a song about dope. Though I wouldn't be surprised to find out he smoked some just before writing it.

So you can't make a parody of his song, but he can make a parody of The Star-Spangled Banner? What is it with the double standards? He stated that the Obama parody was a slur to our entire country, what the heck does he think making a parody using the National Anthem is?


"During a live performance, Yarrow once mocked the drug related interpretations by reciting his own drug related reinterpretation of the Star-Spangled Banner"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZPDK5eO7K8&feature=related


John Kerry believes the song is about marijuana.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x4334

[Nickdfresh]

So you can't insult the President elect or the people who voted for him? Does George W. Bush, his supporters, and the last 8 years ring a bell?

Childrens song? About dope?

Sometimes I think you guys post this stuff knowing the absurdity of it all and trying to see how much of a commotion you can stir up.

Of course you can insult him! But the whole song is about his race...

But this is indicative of the GOP becoming the old rural white male party...

[hideyoursheep]

**video has been removed due to terms of use violation**

Hmm... some one must have found it offensive...

Have no fear! This pilot was picked up by Fox and will air this spring in all the red(neck) states...

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[jhale667]

But this is indicative of the GOP becoming the old rural white male party...


Uh...."becoming"? :D

[DEMON CUNT]

So you can't insult the President elect or the people who voted for him? Does George W. Bush, his supporters, and the last 8 years ring a bell?


Of course one can insult the President. Make fun of him, call him names, etc. It is freedom of speech, yo! Just know that if you do it in the spirit of racism, you will be called on it.

For me, this is not about the use of the word "negro" itself, but the context in which it is presented by this song vs. the LA Times Opinion piece. Both of which I find to be in poor taste, by the way.

The LA Times made an attempt at some analysis while the song seems to delight in mockery of African Americans.

It's the difference between answering a knock at your front door to find a man dressed in a suit and tie v.s a man dressed in KKK robes and hood. Both images provoke certain feelings because of the history attached.

How's that for a serious stab at contributing to the discussion?

[bueno bob]

Uh...."becoming"? :D

No shit. Been a rich old white men's club for MANY years now...luckily enough for all the rest of America, rich old white men are becoming extinct pretty quickly...

[bueno bob]

Sometimes I think you guys post this stuff knowing the absurdity of it all and trying to see how much of a commotion you can stir up.

Here's a challenge then: if you don't think it's much of a big deal (which is ENTIRELY your right), do the following - take a drive to Stockton, head down to either the south or east side of town, roll down your window at a street corner (ANY street corner) and yell out the following at the first person you see:

"HEY YOU! YEAH, YOU NEGRO! CAN YOU GIVE ME DIRECTIONS TO THE FREEWAY?"

If he walks up and gives you directions to the freeway, head back home and post about it here and I'll GLADLY concede your point that, yes, we're all making a lot of commotion about something that's really no big thing at all.

Deal?

Good luck! :D

[FORD]

Here's a new parody, as written by Festivito at Democratic Underground......

Oh, Rush the magic addict
who lives off DC
and frolics in Honduras towns
for viagra's ecstasy

Little kids are poor there
for money they'll have Rush
a big fat man who shows them cash
and things that make them blush

Off he goes to travel
without his fifth wife there
We wonder why so many left
when they find out they glare.

Oh, Rush the magic addict ...

Once he was Jeff Christie
who did solicit cops
for sex with men
when he was young
So stung when he was caught.

Sex lies live forever
but not so little joys
His radio brings us hateful things
an old man who plays with boys

Oh, Rush the magic addict ...

He couldn't go in war time
to Vietnam that day
A poloidinal cyst was on his butt
A ticket out -- hooray.

Brave souls live for ever
but not so cowardly boys
someone might soon call his bluff
that all he speaks is noise.

Oh, Rush the magic addict ...

Then one day it happened
His sound was heard no more
The oxycontin that he took
made him deaf forever more.

corrupted politicians
paid homage to his name
Abramoff did lower his hat
as they played their monied games

Oh, Rush the magic addict ...


Now THAT's a decent parody. Somebody get this guy a recording studio!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8044547

[sadaist]

Here's a challenge then: if you don't think it's much of a big deal (which is ENTIRELY your right), do the following - take a drive to Stockton, head down to either the south or east side of town, roll down your window at a street corner (ANY street corner) and yell out the following at the first person you see:

"HEY YOU! YEAH, YOU NEGRO! CAN YOU GIVE ME DIRECTIONS TO THE FREEWAY?"

If he walks up and gives you directions to the freeway, head back home and post about it here and I'll GLADLY concede your point that, yes, we're all making a lot of commotion about something that's really no big thing at all.

Deal?

Good luck! :D

What are you implying here? That these rundown areas of Stockton are filled with enough blacks to have them at every street corner? Aren't there blacks in the middle-upper class neighborhoods too. And you think they will immediately resort to violence and assault me? Sounds like you're guilty of stereotyping. Sounds kinda racist to me buddy.

And if I yelled "HEY YOU! YEAH, YOU!" to anyone, I'm sure they would take offense.

[bueno bob]

What are you implying here?

I'm implying that you know GOD DAMNED WELL that the use of the word "negro" is offensive under ANY conditions, parody or no. Thus, when you say obvious tripe "Sometimes I think you guys post this stuff knowing the absurdity of it all and trying to see how much of a commotion you can stir up", you know GOD DAMNED WELL that you're totally full of shit.


That these rundown areas of Stockton are filled with enough blacks to have them at every street corner?

I'm sorry. Have you ever been to south Stockton? It's kinda blatantly apparent.


Aren't there blacks in the middle-upper class neighborhoods too.

Yep.


And you think they will immediately resort to violence and assault me?

Yep. If you start calling them "negros", I'm about 99&#37; positive they will.


Sounds like you're guilty of stereotyping. Sounds kinda racist to me buddy.

Only to you would that sound "racist". Are you capable of doing any critical thinking, or is deflection your last resort here? Fine. Go out your front door and call ANY black person you find a negro and see how far it gets you. THEN come back and tell me how well it over for you, and we'll discuss whether calling a black person a "negro" is a non-issue, or a whole lot of fuss about nothing.


And if I yelled "HEY YOU! YEAH, YOU!" to anyone, I'm sure they would take offense.

Then say "Pardon me, Negro...how do I get to the freeway from here?". Bottom line, I don't really give a shit how you phrase it.

And don't waste my time with your stupid little "You're a racist!" deflectionist bullshit again. Not only am I far too smart for that crap, I'd assume you are as well, so quit fucking around and go do it. You're taking the stance that using the word "Negro" is OK, so man up, grab your sack and get to it, Sally.

And YES, while you're getting the snot kicked out of you, make sure you say "Hey, I only said it because it's a parody!" - I'm sure whoever's taking a pount out of your flesh will stop and say "OH! Well damn, why didn't you say so in the first place? HAHAHAHA! That's a good one!", you'll commence to be lifelong friends and it'll ALL be better....

:rolleyes:

[DEMON CUNT]

WTF! DEMON CUNT offers legitimate discussion and Sadass skips over for bueno bob's brilliantly inflammatory argument. You cannot say that I didn't try. I even avoided the name calling to ensure that your diaper would remain free from moisture while you enjoyed my post!

Sadass should really just admit to the fact that he not only enjoys humor that is racist in nature but will go to great lengths to defend it.