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ELVIS
01-05-2009, 09:32 AM
By Ted Nugent, Texas Wildman

Sunday, January 04, 2009

Want to bail out the auto industry? First consider these two rules for living:

* Never reward negative behavior unless you want more of it.

* Never throw good money after bad.


That should settle the debate. Taxpayers shouldn't bail out the automobile industry or any other industry.

There is constitutional authority for the decades of poor management decisions, forecasting and labor deals that have put GM, the nation's largest automobile maker, perilously close to going belly-up.

The $700 billion bailout Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is to be used only for bailing out financial institutions, not automobile companies skating on thin financial ice.

If he is a good and honest steward of taxpayer dollars, Treasury Secretary Paulson will deny the Big Three's request to be included in TARP.

Congress created a $25 billion loan program through the Department of Energy to help the Big Three. This loan program should be utilized by the Big Three instead of wanting to be included in TARP.

GM, Ford and Chrysler are sinking ships. With cash reserves dwindling, their only viable option is to try and stay afloat in these turbulent economic seas through bankruptcy.

It isn't a question of if GM will file for bankruptcy protection but, rather when. Bankruptcy will provide GM the necessary protection and some time to possibly turn a dying automotive dinosaur into a smaller, lithe, profitable company that is sized for its shrunken market share. "Possibly" being the operative word.

For their protection

Filing Chapter 11 protection protects GM from itself. Bankruptcy could free GM from costly labor contracts, provide them the opportunity to restructure hugely expensive pension programs and renegotiate health benefits. Other unprofitable assets could also be amputated.

Should GM emerge from the bankruptcy operating table with a heartbeat, odds are GM is never going to be the global automotive giant it once was. The automotive world is much more competitive than, say, 40 years ago when GM, Chrysler and Ford ruled the automotive world from my beloved Motor City.

While the UAW may believe GM, Ford and Chrysler are in business to provide automotive workers a salary and other costly benefits, the reality is that car companies are in business to make a profit.

The UAW's costly benefit demands over the years coupled with weak automotive management who historically caved into the UAW's demands put the automotive bolts to the shareholders and the Big Three on the path to possible extinction.

Contrary to Michael Moore's disingenuous and anti-free-market automotive movie Roger and Me, profit must drive all business decisions. Even a goofy guitar player knows that a business that fails to focus on profits and does not constantly look to the future ultimately is going out of business.

Those of us who have lived and worked in and around the Motor City have watched it slowly rust into oblivion over the past 25 years.

The decline of the Motor City should be used as a case study in every business school in America on how not to sink an industry and destroy a city in the process with denial-driven feelgood, liberal suicide policies.

Bailing out GM with billions of taxpayer dollars is the wrong approach. GM is not too big to fail. What GM may be is too unprofitable to stay in business.



:elvis:

Va Beach VH Fan
01-05-2009, 11:19 AM
Texas Wildman ??

So much for the Motor City Madman, but that wouldn't help his argument now, would it...

hideyoursheep
01-05-2009, 12:20 PM
The 'con's don't give a shit about Michigan anymore. It's a huge reminder of their ideology fail.

He had to move where he felt comfortable...probably not far from that pre-fab town of Crawford.


Nugent=fairweather fucknugget.

DEMON CUNT
01-05-2009, 02:36 PM
Nugent=fairweather fucknugget.

Funny!

FORD
01-05-2009, 02:57 PM
The fair weather fucknugget doesn't even live in Michigan anymore. Why is that, Ted?

Wouldn't have anything to do with how fucked the economy is, due to Repuke economic policies, would it?

kwame k
01-05-2009, 03:22 PM
Ted's shtick got old after the age of 24 or 25 for me........I do agree that we are rewarding too many companies for incompetence, though. The big 3 are going to close factories/dealerships and lay off a ton of people in the next few months......they have to if they are going to show the government that they are stream-lined and competitive.

Standard business 101........pink slip a shit load of people and close as many facilities as you can.

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 03:31 PM
"Texas Wildman" :lol: I wonder if he has business cards.

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 03:33 PM
The fair weather fucknugget doesn't even live in Michigan anymore. Why is that, Ted?

Wouldn't have anything to do with how fucked the economy is, due to Repuke economic policies, would it?

Actually, he owns a number of ranches in different places...still one in Michigan.

hideyoursheep
01-05-2009, 03:36 PM
Actually, he owns a number of ranches in different places...still one in Michigan.


But he's now the "Texas Wildman"...:rolleyes:




Fuckin' dick holster!

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 03:44 PM
But he's now the "Texas Wildman"...:rolleyes:




Fuckin' dick holster!

Blah blah blah... do you agree with what he's saying or not?

hideyoursheep
01-05-2009, 03:48 PM
Blah blah blah... do you agree with what he's saying or not?

Fuck off!

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 03:57 PM
Fuck off!

That was truly the best response you could think of, wasn't it?

hideyoursheep
01-05-2009, 04:03 PM
That was truly the best response you could think of, wasn't it?

Beats the shit outta this one.




"Texas Wildman" :lol: I wonder if he has business cards.



The only respnse you deserve=Fuck off!

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 04:07 PM
Take the cock out of your mouth and admit that you agree with everything Nugent says. Admit it, pussy.

hideyoursheep
01-05-2009, 04:12 PM
Don't do it, BlackFlag....

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm doing it. :fucku:

hideyoursheep
01-05-2009, 04:29 PM
Why, oh why do you want my attention so badly, homo?!

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Why, oh why do you want my attention so badly, homo?!

Scroll up. You started talking to me, dickhead.

LoungeMachine
01-05-2009, 04:49 PM
By Ted Nugent, Texas Wildman


* Never reward negative behavior unless you want more of it.





i.e. Paying to see Terrible Ted in a lousy casino


By Ted Nugent, Texas Wildman




* Never throw good money after bad.



see: Entire Damn Yankees catalog



I could not possibly care less what this pedophile says.....

:gulp:

LoungeMachine
01-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Scroll up. You started talking to me, dickhead.

Are we down to the "rubber and glue" , Mommy he started it!!! defense?


I look forward to the day you finally admit you're no better than anyone else in here when it comes to childish behavior.

:gulp:

Guitar Shark
01-05-2009, 05:53 PM
Shut up, fag.

LoungeMachine
01-05-2009, 05:59 PM
Shut up, fag.

I know you are, but what am I?

Blackflag
01-05-2009, 06:30 PM
I look forward to the day you finally admit you're no better than anyone else in here when it comes to childish behavior.

Pussy.

DEMON CUNT
01-05-2009, 10:42 PM
i.e. Paying to see Terrible Ted in a lousy casino



see: Entire Damn Yankees catalog



I could not possibly care less what this pedophile says.....



Funny shit!

Dr. Love
01-06-2009, 02:24 AM
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

hideyoursheep
01-06-2009, 03:38 AM
Scroll up. You started talking to me, dickhead.

No I didn't, you ignorant, paranoid ,Yakima crack baby!
LMFAO X 2!! You think every time someone posts they're "talking" directly to you? You're not that important,chico. Go back and read it again, unless the voices channelling through the rodents you timeshare with are too loud.:heyfu:

Your comprehensive skills are shit.

Your opinions are shit.

Your posts are all shit.

And your threads are huge bodies of worthless shit.



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hideyoursheep
01-06-2009, 03:41 AM
Pussy.





Never had it, never will


:monkey:

hideyoursheep
01-06-2009, 03:50 AM
Take the cock out of your mouth and admit that you agree with everything Nugent says. Admit it, pussy.


How many times in you life did you hear someone saying that to your mother while you were supposed to be asleep in the other room, CrackFag?


:cry:
:blow:
:blow2:
:splooge:
:sex:
:fu:

Nickdfresh
01-06-2009, 09:54 AM
I haven't read this whole thread: but did anyone else notices how Ted is such a retard that he advocates only helping the financial industry (probably because its in his self-interest), but not giving a few billion$ in scrap LOANS to the auto industry? our last bastion of industrial might and working class jobs that pay.

It's obvious that Ted-the-butt-Nugget hates America and its working people and thinks only of his investments on Wall Street...
?
And anyways, why would anyone listen to this retard? Didn't he get bilked out of his fortune in the late 1970s by an accountant or something?

BITEYOASS
01-06-2009, 11:40 AM
Well didn't nuge have a shitty scent while heading to the draft office. Besides, that fucker never lived in the motor city. If I wanted to hear some real motor city madmen, then I would listen to MC5 or the Stooges.

hideyoursheep
01-06-2009, 01:00 PM
...And anyways, why would anyone listen to this retard? Didn't he get bilked out of his fortune in the late 1970s by an accountant or something?

Exactly.....he's the last person I would want to take financial advice from.


Maybe he should work on wall st. There's no accountability there, either.

Big Train
01-06-2009, 10:53 PM
I think the Nuge is partially right. None of these industries will ultimately be helped by a bailout. Bankruptcy would be the best solution.

In the case of the auto industry, I think there is more value in selling the individual brands GM owns out to different private sources of funding and figuring out how to rework nameplates that are tarnished in the marketplace (Buick being a prime example). Private equity and foreign funds (Scary as that sounds) have ample money to take on these troubled assests and make them work. Cerebus is gonna gut Chrysler, but at least make it profitable for once. We can't continue to lose money in our businesses in the name of just keeping people employed for a little longer. That's a cosmetic solution.

I'm all for dumping all current management in the financial and auto industries. I'm also for dumping TARP entirely until there are real and useful controls on where and how the money is spent. When Mr. Paulson decides to be forthright and open, we can start talking about it saving these other businesses.

I'd also wish the press would stop reinventing numbers. The TARP bill is 840 Billion, pork included. We have to pay for tax breaks for racetracks that the "saved" ford will run it's race cars around. And the Bicycle credits, the rum credits, the wooden arrows...it's all in there.

Terry
01-08-2009, 08:52 PM
I haven't read this whole thread: but did anyone else notices how Ted is such a retard that he advocates only helping the financial industry (probably because its in his self-interest), but not giving a few billion$ in scrap LOANS to the auto industry? our last bastion of industrial might and working class jobs that pay.

It's obvious that Ted-the-butt-Nugget hates America and its working people and thinks only of his investments on Wall Street...
?
And anyways, why would anyone listen to this retard? Didn't he get bilked out of his fortune in the late 1970s by an accountant or something?

If one is going to throw upwards of a trillion towards the financial industry, I say throw a hundred billion at the auto industry and save those 2 1/2 million working-class jobs.

What the fuck would Nugent know about an average person's struggles? It's always good and well for those who have plenty to be so cavalier about laying off a shitload of lower-middle class workers.

Figs
01-08-2009, 11:42 PM
The "big 3" make shit cars, period. Until that changes they will fail.

Nickdfresh
01-08-2009, 11:58 PM
The "big 3" make shit cars, period. Until that changes they will fail.

But they also make some pretty good cars. They just sell the shitty ones here; Google "Ford of Europe" for further information...

Blackflag
01-09-2009, 01:51 AM
What the fuck would [politicians] know about an average person's struggles? It's always good and well for those who have plenty to be so cavalier about laying off a shitload of lower-middle class workers.

:fucku:

hideyoursheep
01-09-2009, 03:57 AM
Put your fuckin' helmet back on before you hurt yourself, CrackFag.

binnie
01-09-2009, 11:59 AM
Why does Ted's opinion on the economy carry any weight? If he wants to talk about who can play guitar, then his opinion carries weight; as for the economy, I'll listen to the professionals.

You don't ask a car mechanic how to bake a cake.

hideyoursheep
01-10-2009, 02:54 AM
:baaa:

You nailed it down tight, binnie.