The KENNEDY Thread

[Rikk]

Just re-watched the 20-year-old documentary, THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY.

Just kind of wondering what the current school-of-thought is by conspiracy buffs and the country as a whole. This is an older documentary, and much has happened since. There's the shitty CASE CLOSED book, and the Bugliosi one...but others on the conspiracy side. But any new evidence or theories that have come up?

Will this be Jack the Ripper? Will this be an eternal mystery, or is there some way a more complete and undisputable truth will come out? Man, we're at 45 years now.

[hideyoursheep]

I believe that Oswald was in fact the lone shooter..whether or not he acted alone in the planning or was coerced into doing it from an outside influence we'll never know, since dead men don't speak.

[FORD]

Uh..... I'll come back to this one when the caffeine kicks in. But for now, I'll just leave this......

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[chefcraig]

The Discovery Channel did a forensic reenactment of that day in Dallas recently, with a special called "JFK: Inside the Target Car" (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27705829/), which led to some surprising insights with regard as to how the shots from the Depository, and not the grassy knoll were to blame.

Now I'm sure that any experiment can be tweaked to reach a predisposed outcome, yet this appeared to be an honest examination of the elements fueling the situation and it's controversy. Even so, I do not believe that Oswald was alone that day. It's simply too difficult to wipe away what is approaching 50 years of suspicion with the results from a basic cable tv show, or at least it is for me.

[Nickdfresh]

Whether one believes in a conspiracy or not, I think a lot of the "Men Who Killed Kennedy" assertions have been roundly disproven. For instance, claims like their conjecture that a Corsican assassin sniper could have been stationed in the storm drain on the side of the street on Dealey Plaza are silly, as a guy could barely fit and could never get a shot with his rifle above tire-level...

[hideyoursheep]

FORD...

My caffeine is wearing off, so I'm gonna have to ask before I leave..

Do you think all these people conspired to have Kennedy killed like this maybe could have used a better weapon?

I mean, the lengths that the conspiracy theorists believe were went to just to cover up a public hit, for all the trouble they went to, they- I mean "THEY" could have easily brought down Air Force 1 and called it a day.

It's been proven that one bullet could (and more than likely did) travel through Kennedy and pass through McConnell....his seat was lower, bullet trajectory, same lot # ammo used by Oswald, etc...

[FORD]

The Discovery Channel and History Channel have taken disturbingly right wing/pro-BCE slants to their "historical" coverage in recent years. The only thing more ridiculous than their JFK coverup explanations, is their RFK coverup explanations.

Bobby Kennedy was killed from a bullet that entered his brain behind his right ear. The shot was fired at a close enough range to leave powder burns on Bobby's neck. Sirhan Sirhan wasn't physically capable of firing that shot, as he was standing in front of RFK about 10 ft away for his entire shooting rampage. But security guard Thane Cesar was standing directly to the right of RFK as they were walking through the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel. Cesar also had ties to the BCE/CIA as well as J. Edgar Hoover, who wasn't exactly RFK's best friend (going back to the days when Bobby was the old queen's boss as Attorney General)

[hideyoursheep]

The Discovery Channel did a forensic reenactment of that day in Dallas recently, with a special called "JFK: Inside the Target Car" (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27705829/), which led to some surprising insights with regard as to how the shots from the Depository, and not the grassy knoll were to blame.

I think that's what I saw....but it was a few years back.

[chefcraig]

I think that's what I saw....but it was a few years back.

Initially, I thought it was a rerun as well, yet it turned out to be a new show. It debuted last year in November.

[Redballjets88]

The Discovery Channel and History Channel have taken disturbingly right wing/pro-BCE slants to their "historical" coverage in recent years. The only thing more ridiculous than their JFK coverup explanations, is their RFK coverup explanations.

Bobby Kennedy was killed from a bullet that entered his brain behind his right ear. The shot was fired at a close enough range to leave powder burns on Bobby's neck. Sirhan Sirhan wasn't physically capable of firing that shot, as he was standing in front of RFK about 10 ft away for his entire shooting rampage. But security guard Thane Cesar was standing directly to the right of RFK as they were walking through the pantry of the Ambassador Hotel. Cesar also had ties to the BCE/CIA as well as J. Edgar Hoover, who wasn't exactly RFK's best friend (going back to the days when Bobby was the old queen's boss as Attorney General)

Of course, it all makes sense now, the BCE killed RFK and JFK, probably JFK Jr, and gave ted cancer also. Those sly bastards.....

[chefcraig]

Of course, it all makes sense now, the BCE killed RFK and JFK, probably JFK Jr, and gave ted cancer also. Those sly bastards.....

I believe that you are being unfair to FORD here, by somehow misunderstanding the obvious point he is making. He stated that the slant of the work reveals a BCE focus, an influence that reveals a peremptory rewriting of history by presenting the facts of both cases in a curious manner.

Like I stated before, I questioned the work. This reflects my own studies into the subject over decades, not some rampant conclusion jumping by attempting to connect the dots to the present day. And even if there is some shadow organization out there with ties reaching back over 50 years, why should this come as a surprise? After all, Budweiser has been around since 1876.

(I know that last line will kill ya, FORD. )

[FORD]

Nah, The only conspiracy Budweiser is involved in is making shitty beer. Their Super Bowl commercials, as usual, were very well done though.

[LoungeMachine]

Please don't refer to Budweiser as beer in this forum, FORD.

You know better. I'm surprised at you.





carry on...... [my views on this are well-known, and have no interest in reigniting them]

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Please don't refer to Budweiser as beer in this forum, FORD.

You know better. I'm surprised at you.





carry on...... [my views on this are well-known, and have no interest in reigniting them]

But you're OK with Bud Ice, right ?? That's got a good kick to it....

[ELVIS]

Wow!

Ford is exactly on the mark this time...

No fuckin' way was Oswald the lone shooter...

There was a bullet hole in the windshield that a Dallas cop stuck a pencil through, I saw the pic...

Also, the JFK zapruder film shows proof of the President being hit from the front...

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And the E. Howard Hunt Death Confession tells the story...

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